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Phone Backup Confusion

What does clockwork do exactly when it comes to backing up your data? Does it just do the important files or the entire phone?
REAL QUESTION:
I have viper rom installed. When the real froyo gets released or an updated Viper rom is release, what do I do?
1. Do I use clockwork to do ALL my backup and restoring? If not, what programs do I use?
2. I have some apps installed on the microsd card too, what app will restore those files once I flash my phone with a new rom?
3. everytime I do a backup with clockwork, do the older backups get erased?
4. What are your suggestions on how I should do my backup?

jd254 said:
What does clockwork do exactly when it comes to backing up your data? Does it just do the important files or the entire phone?
REAL QUESTION:
I have viper rom installed. When the real froyo gets released or an updated Viper rom is release, what do I do?
1. Do I use clockwork to do ALL my backup and restoring? If not, what programs do I use?
2. I have some apps installed on the microsd card too, what app will restore those files once I flash my phone with a new rom?
3. everytime I do a backup with clockwork, do the older backups get erased?
4. What are your suggestions on how I should do my backup?
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CWM (Clockwork Mod) performs a full backup of all system data, which includes the ROM and Kernel, any theme you have installed, all apps and their respective data, as well as any other settings. I would not suggest using only clockwork for your backups, a program such as Titanium Backup would be a better bet in case your NAND gets corrupted, which would disable your ability to restore from backup. Clockworkmod and Titanium Backup can both backup and restore apps on the sdcard, so I wouldn't worry about that. The backups in clockwork are concurrent, meaning that each time you do a new one it saves it as a completely separate backup containing only the files that you backed up on that occasion. I personally use clockwork for large backups such as individual ROMs, and then titanium for my apps and data. I hope this helps, feel free to pm me if you have any more questions/need more explanations!

[Q] Question|root and new ROM and apps

If I root my desire and flash a custom ROM will all the apps I have installed now
would be gone?
And if I bought an app, will I have to buy it again after rooting and a new ROM?
thanks
oh and im sorry if this is in the wrong section

For the first question, I think all your apps will be deleted just if you want. In doc kitchen, are two versions of rom, with wipe and no wipe, but the recomanded version is that which will wipe all your data. You can backup all your apps before that.
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You can just back up all the apps via Titanium backup from the market. It will also backup your user data.
So you should go:
1) root & install custom recovery (usually part of rooting process)
2) install Ti Backup and run a batch backup of all user apps and data
3) make sure all your contacts are google contacts! Then they will just be re-imported when you register your google account on your new rom
4) pick your rom and download its zip file - copy this to the root of your sd card.
5) boot into recovery and factory reset i.e. wipe everything
6) still in recovery, select "install from zip" and pick the zip file above
7) reboot and wait (can be slow the first time), then run a batch restore from Ti backup and you are done!

Thank you very much its very helpful.
Do paid apps stay as well?

Lemon002 said:
Thank you very much its very helpful.
Do paid apps stay as well?
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Yep they will all be backed up.
I forgot a step too - you should always do a nandroid backup (this is done in recovery) before wiping and flashing rom in case something screws up.
This way you can restore what you previously had through recovery.

Lemon002 said:
Do paid apps stay as well?
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When you paid an app on the Market, the info is attached to your Google account. So when you configure a new rom with your Google account, you see in the Market those apps are paid and you can download them again for free.

[Q] Make installing/upgrading ROMS less painful?

I bought Ti BU thinking it would simplify upgrading my ROMs. But after every ROM install, I still have go through setup, sign into Play, download TiBU, do a batch restore from Ti.
One issue is that downloading TiBU gets stuck in the queue while every app I have ever downloaded from Play store get re downloaded.
Is there a way to make this easier?
~S

you never use clockworkmod backup (nandbackup or whatever you call it) ?
clockworkmod backup contains all backup of data,cache,system, and boot.img
then after applying any rom, you can restore only the data and cache
and you don't have to sign in to google play etc ...
i like this feature of clockworkmod recovery (custom recovery)
but if you're applying rom that based aosp but the backup that you have is on the sense rom based,,,it's better not to restore using this method ... use titanium backup method is better

I think Ti can create an update.zip, it's probably what you're looking for, you flash it after the ROM.

Both of those sound like correct answers. I will try both of them. If the CWM mode works, it will mean TiBU was a bit of waste of $$$ for me... oh well, not the first time I have done that.
~S

[Q] CM 10.1 ROM Upgrade

I need some help upgrading my current CM 10.1 M3 ROM to the new CM 10.1 R2 ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2217288). According to the R2 thread, the steps to upgrade are:
Using CWM:
1) BACK UP your current ROM!!!
2) Preform wipe / factory reset
3) Flash the ROM: cm-10.1-RC2-20130530-UNOFFICIAL-i927.zip (MD5 = 2e65e45bdc7539d5260062abdf6cd1cd) Mirror 1
4) Optionally flash GAPPS: gapps-jb-20130427-nonneon-tonyp.zip (MD5 = 13fc57e24ead77ec2613efd643af3800)
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I'm still fairly new to flashing non-stock ROMs and using CWM, etc. My first real attempt was replacing the stock GB ROM (I'm on Rogers in Canada) to CM 10.1 M3. I have CWM on my Captivate Glide. Can someone please confirm if the following is what I should do:
1) Plug my phone into the computer and transfer using MTP the R2 and GAPPS ROMs to the internal SD card
2) Unplug the phone and shut off the phone
3) Holding the up volume key, press and hold the power key until the phone boots into the CWM
4) Use CWM to back up my current ROM*
2) Perform wipe/factory reset
3) Flash the R2 ROM
4) Flash the GAPPS ROM
If this is correct, I have a couple of follow-up questions.
*Will CWM back up my current ROM - including all apps + data - to the internal SD? If so should I clear space on my SD to allow room? I use Titanium Backup (the free version) to backup all my apps + data. Is that enough? Once I flash the upgraded ROM, how do I reinstall all my apps + data? Should I use Titanium Backup? Should I use CWM to restore apps + data? Will either CWM or Titanium Backup differentiate between system apps & data app?
I ask because I'd rather find out all the information I can before I perform the upgrade. So any help you can give me will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

dEhiN said:
3) Holding the up volume key, press and hold the power key until the phone boots into the CWM
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Pretty sure it's down?
Up is ODIN download mode.
Not 100% but if you get a little message in the top left corner then that is recovery, and a warning message about are you sure you want to flash this is Download mode.
You want recovery.
Since you are already on CM you should actually have a reboot option for going into recovery.
dEhiN said:
*Will CWM back up my current ROM - including all apps + data - to the internal SD? If so should I clear space on my SD to allow room? I use Titanium Backup (the free version) to backup all my apps + data. Is that enough?
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I know nothing of CWM and use TWRP, anyways TWRP lets you save it to external or internal and allows you to choose what you backup (system, data, sdcard, and etc).
I honestly just use Titanium and backup my apps and data. Since I store my roms all on external I can pop it into a computer if I screw something up and fresh clean installs seem so much well fresh and clean.
dEhiN said:
Once I flash the upgraded ROM, how do I reinstall all my apps + data? Should I use Titanium Backup? Should I use CWM to restore apps + data? Will either CWM or Titanium Backup differentiate between system apps & data app?
I ask because I'd rather find out all the information I can before I perform the upgrade. So any help you can give me will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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CWM probably is more macro when it comes to app backup, like backing them all up in one clump, while Titanium handles apps backup individually so you only restore and backup what you want.

dEhiN said:
IM back up my current ROM - including all apps + data - to the internal SD? If so should I clear space on my SD to allow room? I use Titanium Backup (the free version) to backup all my apps + data. Is that enough?
Once I flash the upgraded ROM, how do I reinstall all my apps + data? Should I use Titanium Backup? Should I use CWM to restore apps + data? Will either CWM or Titanium Backup differentiate between system apps & data app?
I ask because I'd rather find out all the information I can before I perform the upgrade. So any help you can give me will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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CWM, there's an option to backup using old method, I can't recall exactly what it says but it will backup your entire rom into a tar.gzip file. The new method uses a blobs folder takes lots of space and to me, doesnt make sense. Backup using "backup to external SD" and to restore in future, "Restore from external SD"
Everything you put there (exempt you need to hold DOWN instead of UP as the phone reboots as mentioned above) is good to go.
Backup everything with Titanium backup but know that nothing like email etc will be recoverable between roms (at least in my experience). For Call Log and SMS use "Call Log Backup and restore" and " SMS Backup and restore" I find they are faster and beat Titanium.
Backup WiFi access points in Titanium and all of your non-system apps. Make sure to hand pick your apps to restore from Ti when your room is booted.

Thanks to both of you @Neuntoter and @yohan4ws for the replies. I upgraded successfully. I used Titanium Backup but didn't really need to. I just had to backup using CWM (which, @yohan4ws you mentioned, backed up everything into a blobs folder), wipe the data, install the new ROM, and restore everything. And it booted fine. I'm definitely going to try the tar.gzip method next time though. My whole 4GB internal SD was nearly filled up with the backup!

dEhiN said:
Thanks to both of you @Neuntoter and @yohan4ws for the replies. I upgraded successfully. I used Titanium Backup but didn't really need to. I just had to backup using CWM (which, @yohan4ws you mentioned, backed up everything into a blobs folder), wipe the data, install the new ROM, and restore everything. And it booted fine. I'm definitely going to try the tar.gzip method next time though. My whole 4GB internal SD was nearly filled up with the backup!
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Glad to have helped!
In the future, once you change the backup method to tar, you can use ES explorer to rename the backups that you have in the clockworkmod folder on your SDCard. don't use spaces though or it won't work.
This makes it easy to do a backup of your current working rom, then hit smsbackup, call log backup, (ti backup for whatsapp, games etc.)
I have a backup of ICS, PacRom 18 and CM10.1 all ready to go with all of my email accounts etc. all put in and labelled. So when someone has a fix or patch for a rom, I do a current backup.. restore to whatever, apply fix test etc. then i can roll back really quickly without missing a beat. for example, I wanted to make a call to my Dad on Sunday when I was driving home from the cabin .. I did a backup of my current CM10, restored ICS .. made bluetooth hands free call,rolled back to CM10.

yohan4ws said:
Glad to have helped!
In the future, once you change the backup method to tar, you can use ES explorer to rename the backups that you have in the clockworkmod folder on your SDCard. don't use spaces though or it won't work.
This makes it easy to do a backup of your current working rom, then hit smsbackup, call log backup, (ti backup for whatsapp, games etc.)
I have a backup of ICS, PacRom 18 and CM10.1 all ready to go with all of my email accounts etc. all put in and labelled. So when someone has a fix or patch for a rom, I do a current backup.. restore to whatever, apply fix test etc. then i can roll back really quickly without missing a beat. for example, I wanted to make a call to my Dad on Sunday when I was driving home from the cabin .. I did a backup of my current CM10, restored ICS .. made bluetooth hands free call,rolled back to CM10.
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How do you do a restore really quickly? Based on the time it took to do my backup and upgrade of CM10.1 from M3 to RC2, the prospect of switching roms from CM10.1 to ICS just to use bluetooth audio or duolingo/skype doesn't seem very appealing!

dEhiN said:
How do you do a restore really quickly? Based on the time it took to do my backup and upgrade of CM10.1 from M3 to RC2, the prospect of switching roms from CM10.1 to ICS just to use bluetooth audio or duolingo/skype doesn't seem very appealing!
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quickly is a relative term... as long as it takes to do a backup (of current jb) then restore (archived ics) then revert back to jb ...
i was on a highway cruise for 3hours when i did it last.... gotta make good with what we got, right?

Does Backup/Restore through TWRP Backup/Restore your apps?

Quite simple. I don't know what Backup/Restore through TWRP actually does, if it backs up the whole phone or if it just backs up your apps, or if you can have it do either.
My Note 4 is rooted and I really hate changing ROMs just because I end up having to re-install my apps. It's a PITA.
Is there really an easier, quicker way of doing things when I switch ROMs? Can I backup/restore my apps with TWRP? If not, then what about with Titanium Backup Pro? I have that as well. I've been manually restoring my apps each time I change ROMs.

TWRP makes copies of the entirety of the selected backup partitions (Whole Phone), using Titanium backup onto your SD card would probably be the best option for backing up apps.

The correct way is you should do both. You only need to do twrp backup once to have a full image of your phone. This is very helpful if your new rom crashed. You just need to restore the twrp image and you will have your phone back exactly the same setup before the crash. Second, you also need a full backup of all your apps with Titanium Backup, this helps you to restore all the apps back to the new rom. Make a note here, if you flash a new OS version, like 5.1 lollipop to 6.0 MM, do not restore app data, instead, just restore the apps only. Apps force closed if you restore app data.
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JOSHSKORN said:
Quite simple. I don't know what Backup/Restore through TWRP actually does, if it backs up the whole phone or if it just backs up your apps, or if you can have it do either.
My Note 4 is rooted and I really hate changing ROMs just because I end up having to re-install my apps. It's a PITA.
Is there really an easier, quicker way of doing things when I switch ROMs? Can I backup/restore my apps with TWRP? If not, then what about with Titanium Backup Pro? I have that as well. I've been manually restoring my apps each time I change ROMs.
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Titanium backup has a setting that allows you to make TWRP flashable zips . It allows you to do the operation as a batch as well so you could make a single zip with all the apps you want restore or you could do them individually or in specific groups. Since your rom selection is based upon system Img. This should work unless you went from a Touchwiz to Aosp base.