Hiya, i've got to satisfy my curiosity. In any instructions in flashing roms, it is always said to make a recovery image. So my question is:
What is the difference between flashing a zip and restoring a recovery?
I know that a recovery will save setting and contacts etc, but in real terms of "i've got a bootloop and need to change my rom", what would the problem be in flashing from a zip and using my backup root to restore everything else?
Any replys greatly appreciated!
When you flash a new rom (zip) the settings, ... are stock (from the rom). After a restore everything is like you backed it up (normally ) - at least the settings, apps,... . I would recommend you to backup the apps also with TitaniumBackup or another equal app and the sms with Sms Backup & Restore. Just to be on the safe site
thans for the quick reply. just to clarify, is my backup (nandriod) was corrupted or by some freak chance i lot my sd with it on, there is not technical difference in just flashing a zip?
If you lose your backup (or it is corrupt,...) you loose your settings, apps and so on (->) After the installation of the rom there are only the stock apps, the stock "Desktop",... You could "repair" your phone with the rom, but a restore would be better in most cases
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Might be a pretty basic qtn but heres the deal.
I took a nandriod backup of dk28 (no root) and then flashed it with nebula rom. Now since the rom was new, all my data/contacts/apps etc are gone obviously.. I am wondering if I did a restore of the nandroid restore, will it restore all that (ie sms/email/contacts/data/apps) or is it used to go back to stock rom only, ie it will remove my custom rom and put back the stock as it was pre flashing nebula?
All I need is a way to keep the custom rom but also restore my sms/email/apps etc.
Thanks!
hardrock121 said:
Might be a pretty basic qtn but heres the deal.
I took a nandriod backup of dk28 (no root) and then flashed it with nebula rom. Now since the rom was new, all my data/contacts/apps etc are gone obviously.. I am wondering if I did a restore of the nandroid restore, will it restore all that (ie sms/email/contacts/data/apps) or is it used to go back to stock rom only, ie it will remove my custom rom and put back the stock as it was pre flashing nebula?
All I need is a way to keep the custom rom but also restore my sms/email/apps etc.
Thanks!
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It will restore everything excatly how it was when you saved it. Including your Texts/Mail etc that were in your inbox at the time you saved. You are basically going back to the exact point where you saved. You can create backups for every rom you have, it is not just for putting your phone back to stock. I always back up stock first, so I can always go back if needed.
Thanks Heelfan71..I understand it puts back everything as it was .. but will I loose my custom rom after that is my question.
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Thanks Heelfan71..I understand it puts back everything as it was .. but will I loose my custom rom after that is my question.
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If you restore your backup? Yes you will loose your custom rom, unless you make a backup of that too (this is what I do). So you can go back and forth between the 2 if needed. Is that what you were wondering?
basically i want to switch back and forth the roms but keep my data intact.. right now after flashing the new rom.. i have obviously lost all my sms/emails/apps etc.. is there a one click solution which will restore all my data on every new rom i install?
edit: Also , I did take a titanium backup before I flashed the new rom.. but i didnt do a complete (ALL) backup, since I couldnt find a option to backup all. I had to choose each service/app/etc to backup.. so I ended up backing up all the stuff that I understood..but restoring them hasnt restored my sms/email data yet.
Do an advanced restore->restore /data in cwm.
I've had pretty good luck keeping my contacts, apps, and settings this way. Some people see weird force close issues after restoring /data. Check it out and see if it works for you.
thaniks.. i ll give it a try .. i thought about it.. but wasnt sure what exactly it does.
did that .. now that removed the rom manager and spare parts.. not sure what else it did.. but it did bring everything sms/apps/emails back ..
i guess i can install rom manager from the market..
If you only restore data your custom rom will stay. It will only restore your apps and app data. If you are restoring data from a rom on the same file system, you should be fine.
In other words, flashing VIPERrom 4.0.3 EXT4, then backing up, then flashing Bonsai 1.1.4 on RFS, then restoring data is not a good idea.
@ryno502 makes sense....thats what i did and it did restore everything.. Thanks!
now i ve to find some good widgets and lockscreen changes..
Nandroid restore on Custom ROM
I own a Xperia Arc(LT 15i)..rooted,unlocked...
I have Cyanogenmod, stable version running on my phone now...
I had taken a nandroid backup using CWM Auto-installer...
But now I wanna know how can i restore my apps that i had with Stock ROM...i tried a advanced backup on /data alone but then, its not booting up if i do so...
Please help..
Xperia?
Your data is incompatible with CM. You will need to download apps again unless you have a Titanium Backup.
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Hi I'm new to android and just bought the verizon Galaxy Nexus (came from the iPhone but regretted buying it just months after buying it) and the new terminology is really confusing. Now that I've familiarized myself with most terms, I have a couple questions about performing certain things.
My first question is: When is a nandroid backup needed, why, and how do you perform one?
second question: If I want to flash a custom ROM, what precautions should I take?
Im sorry if any of these questions have been asked but I could not find them anywhere in the development forum.
Nandroid back up is an exact copy of what ever ROM is currently running on your phone. I.e if you are still on stock ROM then you would make a Nandroid and flash back to stock if you had bugs in a custom ROM.
To make a Nandroid you must first Root the device and install ClockWorkMod (CWM), Once installed hold both volume buttons up and down at the same time an power on the device. Then using the volume keys go to Restore mode and hit the power button, Navigate to backups and restore and then hit back up, this will make a Nandroid.
Precautions to flashing a custom ROM - Make a Nandroid of the stock ROM and you can always flash back.
But i didn't understand a thing yet... If I have a Custom ROM and want to go back to the stock one, and i have a nandroid backup of the stock one, first i have to re-flash the stock rom or i can directly restore the nandroid backup when i've still installed the custom rom?
You can directly restore the nandroid backup. It will start you over at stock just how your phone was when you backed it up
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Maybe you should watch a few videos on Youtube to get a bit familiar with Android and a few basics
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Nandroid back up is an exact copy of what ever ROM is currently running on your phone. I.e if you are still on stock ROM then you would make a Nandroid and flash back to stock if you had bugs in a custom ROM.
To make a Nandroid you must first Root the device and install ClockWorkMod (CWM), Once installed hold both volume buttons up and down at the same time an power on the device. Then using the volume keys go to Restore mode and hit the power button, Navigate to backups and restore and then hit back up, this will make a Nandroid.
Precautions to flashing a custom ROM - Make a Nandroid of the stock ROM and you can always flash back.
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Thanks for the very helpful response! Does a nandroid save absolutely everything? If not, what will I have to save manually? If I do a nandroid, is a titanium backup needed? The question above about having to revert back to the ROM before flashing the backup is interesting because I've heard that you must flash back to the previous ROM or you'll end up with a bricked phone...
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Thanks for the very helpful response! Does a nandroid save absolutely everything? If not, what will I have to save manually? If I do a nandroid, is a titanium backup needed? The question above about having to revert back to the ROM before flashing the backup is interesting because I've heard that you must flash back to the previous ROM or you'll end up with a bricked phone...
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Yes indeed a Nandroid back up saves EVERYTHING to do with apps installed + login credentials, widget layouts, notification sounds an lights, Messages, recent calls and so on. It may be a wise move to make a copy of the Internal SDcard which I do just in-case because I'm not sure if the Nandroid backup saves the Internal SDcard as it is a non removable card.
Regarding reflashing - You simply just wipe systme, data, Cache and Davlik Cache and reflash the stock Nandroid over and your device will be back to stock ROM.
The only time I would use Titanium back up is when moving from one ROM to another. Each time you flash a new ROM its basically a fresh install and will not have any of your settings saved i.e Wi-fi passwords, wallpapers, wiget layout, icons and folders, Gmail/facebook/twitter account details. Although Google offer a basic backup for your Apps none of the login credentials will be saved.
I have 2 Nandroid backups - 1 is my stock ROM, the other is my Modaco Custom ROM. Every time I flash some thing new over my Madaco ROM i.e custom Mods like new power menu or new kernel, I make a new Nandroid back up and delete the previous one. That way you will always have an exact copy of the ROM just the way you like it.
Hope this helps
Ah makes sense thank you so much! I get the overall picture but small details such as these are needed! I'm sorry if I'm annoying you with all these questions but I have a couple more: how would I make a copy of my internal sd card? My other question is that will I only need titanium backup if I plan on using more than 2 ROM's? Because I'm still a bit confused about why you would need titanium backup if nandroid does the same thing.. If there is a guide about when to delete the cache or do a wipe and stuff, sending a link or explanation would be much appreciated!
Titanium backup and nandroid
Backing up internal SD card is by simply copy pasting everything on SD to PC, Nandroid backup is complete backup of everything, ie if you restore a nandroid backup you will get everything the same before backing up, but Titanium is backup of apps, messages and call registers or contacts, you cannot restore the apps, messages and contacts from nandroid to New ROM, but you can from Titanium. Just in simple you can make titanium backup in case you want to use new ROM with all apps you previously used or use nandroid if you want just to test a new ROM and revert back to previous,
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Hi guys, quick question. I want to start flashing other roms but how to i make a backup of my current ROM?
Do i just enter CMW then do a backup from there?Does that backup mean the whole rom is backed up or just the apps and firmware? Is there somethign else i need to do?
Let me know, thanks in advance
That's what you do. It's a nandroid backup, so your complete system is backed up.
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Just make sure you :
- DONT wipe out data and
- DONT make a factory reset
before making a backup
Thanks guys =) cant wait to flash Roms now
All The Best
Doing a nandroid is essential as it's an image of your phone you can go back to at any time.
I also would recommend downloading a backup app so you can save just your data and apps, it makes changing ROMs easier as you can just restore these onto your new ROM.
I bought Ti BU thinking it would simplify upgrading my ROMs. But after every ROM install, I still have go through setup, sign into Play, download TiBU, do a batch restore from Ti.
One issue is that downloading TiBU gets stuck in the queue while every app I have ever downloaded from Play store get re downloaded.
Is there a way to make this easier?
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you never use clockworkmod backup (nandbackup or whatever you call it) ?
clockworkmod backup contains all backup of data,cache,system, and boot.img
then after applying any rom, you can restore only the data and cache
and you don't have to sign in to google play etc ...
i like this feature of clockworkmod recovery (custom recovery)
but if you're applying rom that based aosp but the backup that you have is on the sense rom based,,,it's better not to restore using this method ... use titanium backup method is better
I think Ti can create an update.zip, it's probably what you're looking for, you flash it after the ROM.
Both of those sound like correct answers. I will try both of them. If the CWM mode works, it will mean TiBU was a bit of waste of $$$ for me... oh well, not the first time I have done that.
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Good day!
I have been on CM12/CM12.5 and lately, I found out it's not working well for me. It's very buggy. I wanted to go back to either stock rom or one of the custom roms that I have, dr.Ketan v7 or Phoenix ROM 4.3. Is it possible? Can I request for a step by step instruction on how as this is quite new to me? Also, will my back-up (Super Back-up) SMS and Contact back-ups stored on my Internal Storage be erased once I flash the new ROM?
Thank you very much!
- Download new ROM and copy it to internal storage or sd card.
- Backup.
- Boot to recovery "twrp recommanded".
- Wipe ( Cache / System / Dilvik / Factory reset ).
- Then install zip , choose rom and flash it..
first boot may take minutes.... just wait it will boot..
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- Download new ROM and copy it to internal storage or sd card.
- Backup.
- Boot to recovery "twrp recommanded".
- Wipe ( Cache / System / Dilvik / Factory reset ).
- Then install zip , choose rom and flash it..
first boot may take minutes.... just wait it will boot..
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Dont it need any mj5 stuff? The procedure you mentioned are like the instructions in installing CM custom rom, is it really the same? no need for Odin or something? thanks!
If you have TWRP recovery installed in your phone no need for Odin. You can download a flashable zip to phone and flash it using the twrp. Also I would suggest you to backup your sms and contacts. Infact do a full nandroid backup with twrp so if anything goes wrong you can go back to you last working state.
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If you have TWRP recovery installed in your phone no need for Odin. You can download a flashable zip to phone and flash it using the twrp. Also I would suggest you to backup your sms and contacts. Infact do a full nandroid backup with twrp so if anything goes wrong you can go back to you last working state.
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wow! great to know. I think that this will be easier. if I'll be making a full nandroid back-up, does it cover the SMS and contact? then i'll store it on my external SD card? or is it safe to store on my internal memory just like how my Super Back-up app works?
I know that this is a bit off-topic but, what's the best/recommended ROM for Note 2 outside CM?
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wow! great to know. I think that this will be easier. if I'll be making a full nandroid back-up, does it cover the SMS and contact? then i'll store it on my external SD card? or is it safe to store on my internal memory just like how my Super Back-up app works?
I know that this is a bit off-topic but, what's the best/recommended ROM for Note 2 outside CM?
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Yes it will cover SMS and contacts and I would recommend you store it on your SD card. I had tried DN4 rom which I liked, it had features like Note 4. Now I am also looking for another rom to try, will let you know once I do.
manubhagat said:
Yes it will cover SMS and contacts and I would recommend you store it on your SD card. I had tried DN4 rom which I liked, it had features like Note 4. Now I am also looking for another rom to try, will let you know once I do.
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sorry, will it also cover my files on my gallery? Would it also be redundant if I make a Titanium Pro back-up for my user app data then do a full nandroid back-up through TWRP Recovery mode? Thanks for accomodating all my questions! I'll look for the DN4 rom that you're referring to.
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sorry, will it also cover my files on my gallery? Would it also be redundant if I make a Titanium Pro back-up for my user app data then do a full nandroid back-up through TWRP Recovery mode? Thanks for accomodating all my questions! I'll look for the DN4 rom that you're referring to.
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Depends on options you choose while doing nandroid backups, from twrp you can backup system, data, boot, efs, storage (internal, external). If your gallery is on internal storage then do backup internal storage as well. But since you plan to install a different rom backup you gallery, sms, contacts and other important files elsewhere may be on a computer so later on you can copy it back.
Remember nandroid backup is complete backup of your phone current state including the rom & settings while Titanium is individual backup for apps. So when you have a new rom you might want to restore individual app data from Titanium. Nandroid is for scenarios where you device becomes unusable or you don't like the new rom so you can easily go back to last rom & settings.
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Depends on options you choose while doing nandroid backups, from twrp you can backup system, data, boot, efs, storage (internal, external). If your gallery is on internal storage then do backup internal storage as well. But since you plan to install a different rom backup you gallery, sms, contacts and other important files elsewhere may be on a computer so later on you can copy it back.
Remember nandroid backup is complete backup of your phone current state including the rom & settings while Titanium is individual backup for apps. So when you have a new rom you might want to restore individual app data from Titanium. Nandroid is for scenarios where you device becomes unusable or you don't like the new rom so you can easily go back to last rom & settings.
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Thank you very much! will try your inputs! Appreciate everything. Now I'm torn between leaving CM12.1 to DN4 or stay for a while. Hope I could also figure out my daily driver.
Hi I successfuly flashed the DN4 rom from CM 12.1, however I tried to restore some files from my Nandroid back-up. however, when I tried to restore everything including data and system, it removed my ROM. what should be selected to be restore if I just want to restore my phone settings and SMS and contacts?
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Hi I successfuly flashed the DN4 rom from CM 12.1, however I tried to restore some files from my Nandroid back-up. however, when I tried to restore everything including data and system, it removed my ROM. what should be selected to be restore if I just want to restore my phone settings and SMS and contacts?
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Did you make a backup of sms and contacts using Titanium? If yes you can try restoring from it. Also if you have Titanium pro you can open the nandroid backup and choose selective things to restore but better and quick is to restore your Titanium backup.
Note, as mentioned in earlier if you restore complete nandroid backup it will return your phone to last ROM state.