Am I Wasting My Time? - Samsung Galaxy Nexus

My VZW GN is losing an insane amount of battery overnight, 30-35%, on wifi. I checked for rogue apps and out of control background syncs but all appears to be in order. I've had the phone since January and have always run it stock due to my work needs. I now use a different device for work and am ready to return to my rooting and rom'ing ways. While I know all the other advantages of going the superuser way I'm mostly concerned with slowing doing my out of the control battery. I'm currently running the latest VZW ota (4.1.1) and that's pretty much when my battery woes began.
So....am I going to find better battery life ditching the stock kernel, flashing older radios, etc? Or is wishful thinking to think that I can significantly improve battery life? Thanks for any input.

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Try this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
It contains lots of info and help for solving battery issues

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Zepius said:
You gave us no screen shots or any details, so how can we help you?
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I was asking do custom kernels make a big difference all things remaining equal. I provided a screen shot above, I do this a lot and the drainage info varies but the drain remains nonetheless.
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foosion said:
Try this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
It contains lots of info and help for solving battery issues
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I'll check it out. Thanks.
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Custom kernels can make difference. Try looking for a kernel that is meant for good battery life.

looks like you have bad phone signal and thats the problem

Zepius said:
looks like you have bad phone signal and thats the problem
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Thanks, I get much better signal at work and the drain remains. I realize that bad signal will drain battery. I was hesitant to post a screenie because my question wasn't geared to what's the problem per se, I was asking do custom kernels and or different radio combos make a difference all things remaining equal. I realize that part of fixing the problem is understanding the cause but I was trying to decide if tinkering is worth the battery investment.
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Reverted back to 4.0.2 from 4.0.4

Not sure how many others have done this, but I had enough of 4.0.4
The problems I saw were (mostly radio related):
The lock screen was very laggy when unlocking the phone (> 1 sec)
The signal would flat out die before it cut over to edge in my basement
I would often see that the connection would die during sleep (powering on the phone and see it suddenly perk up)
A few occasions where answering the phone turned my screen black and dropped the call
Radio issues where, after multiple changes between edge/3g/hspa, I would only pull 1mbps down on hspa. A reboot ticked it back up to 5mbps.
Far worse data speeds in my house. Upstairs I could get 2mbps on 4.0.2 with XXKK6, with 4.0.4 on XXLA2 I was getting 0.6mbps at best.
Mind you, I've both applied the update via Clockwork Mod, and when that was having trouble reflashed the entire phone with the Google factory image.
So, last night I reflashed the 4.0.2 factory image instead. My computer was nice enough to hard lock on me in the middle of it, so I had to apply it twice, but I'm back on 4.0.2 and things are good now. I put Clockwork Mod back on as well to prevent an OTA from loading.
EDIT: Wow, 4 1-start votes already? Who would have thought that saying I ran into problems with 4.0.4 was the equivalent of personally insulting people?
Sound like you need to run BAMF
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Mine Nexus doesn't do that, must be some PEBKAC related problem.
Did you try a ugla4 or uglc2 radio and the smart reflex edit?
bow chicka wow wow.
I flashed from 4.0.2 yakjuxw to 4.0.4 yakju and i actually experience better radio reception, for the first time i get a low 3g reception in my house from time to time, before i only had a medium strong edge reception.
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MS. said:
Mine Nexus doesn't do that, must be some PEBKAC related problem.
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Thanks for the useless comment, because clearly I must be struggling with the fine motor function involved with sliding the lock screen slider to the right. Or, maybe it's the intricate knowledge involved with not changing any of the OS's radio settings and allowing it to try to manage itself.
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Sound like you need to run BAMF
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Yeah, part of me is pondering other ROMs; haven't made up my mind yet.
@rbiter said:
Did you try a ugla4 or uglc2 radio and the smart reflex edit?
bow chicka wow wow.
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I didn't because there were issues beyond radio problems, namely the sluggishness on unlocking it and the mysterious behavior that I saw answering calls a few times. I might get bored one weekend and try reflashing with one of those radios instead.
I've done the radio reflash song and dance before on 4.0.2 because of the bug that I both mentioned here and logged on Google:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1488097
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=25316
Unfortunately, despite providing data, Google has totally ignored the issue. Ultimately I just decided to stick with XXKK6 and let it do its own switching.
Tjotte said:
I flashed from 4.0.2 yakjuxw to 4.0.4 yakju and i actually experience better radio reception, for the first time i get a low 3g reception in my house from time to time, before i only had a medium strong edge reception.
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My reception on calls has been fine, but the overall bugginess of the radio, particularly with data speeds, has been untenable.
So far my phone has been working much better with 4.0.2. Again, if I decide to flash 4.0.4 again and mess with the radio I'll update the thread.
How do you give a negative rating to a thread?
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How do you give a negative rating to a thread?
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Wow, I'm amazed at the hate this is attracting. Thanks!
I would have preferred suggestions about the problems my phone was having with 4.0.4, but it sounds like the only suggestions people are interested in making at this point would be of a personal nature.
I ran stock instead of custom for a few weeks but I just missed the little things. (Battery percent in status bar, toggles). I say try bamf for a dew days
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ChazzMichaelMichaels said:
Wow, I'm amazed at the hate this is attracting. Thanks!
I would have preferred suggestions about the problems my phone was having with 4.0.4, but it sounds like the only suggestions people are interested in making at this point would be of a personal nature.
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Sorry people are like this on here. One thing you could always try is running 4.0.4 with 4.0.2 radios if you found better reception with them. There is a whole list of flash able radios
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Its no wonder why most people feel this is the worst forum on xda. To be honest, its because of how people are in this thread and the hard time they give the op for no reason, that I can no longer stand coming here. I hope all of you so called experts brick your phones and leave here for good.
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mark manning said:
Sorry people are like this on here. One thing you could always try is running 4.0.4 with 4.0.2 radios if you found better reception with them. There is a whole list of flash able radios
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Ah, I didn't know if that was a safe thing to do or not. My hunch was that running older radios on newer ROMs might be dangerous; sounds like I was mistaken though.
mark manning said:
Its no wonder why most people feel this is the worst forum on xda. To be honest, its because of how people are in this thread and the hard time they give the op for no reason, that I can no longer stand coming here. I hope all of you so called experts brick your phones and leave here for good.
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Noooo! Come back! You're trying to help!
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Ah, I didn't know if that was a safe thing to do or not. My hunch was that running older radios on newer ROMs might be dangerous; sounds like I was mistaken though.
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Radios are not linked to version #'s like in the past. The reason they are labeled that way now is because it just so happens to relate to their corresponding release timing.
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I must say I've noticed no difference coming from AOKP 4.0.3 to 4.0.4.Just some anomalous battery drain in standby but I can't help but flash experimental kernels every other day so that's more than likely the culprit.
Thanks, but I meant an actual negative number
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If you had these same issues with the factory image, then you need to be posting this on the AOSP forum @ Google.

[Q] Battery Issue with sync

I have searched the forum and couldn't find a thread about this issue,hence opening a new one.
I bought my Galaxy Nexus few weeks ago.. The issue is:
My battery seems to drain very fast when 'sync' is on. During night time I tested and results are as follow:
What might be the reason for the same? I am running stock 4.0.2 rom.
Any help??
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Try to update to ICS 4.0.4
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keaton said:
Try to update to ICS 4.0.4
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Will this work for sure? I wasn't eager to flash a yakju/takju build right now specially with the signal issues with someone on 4.0.4.
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kaushikd said:
Will this work for sure? I wasn't eager to flash a yakju/takju build right now specially with the signal issues with someone on 4.0.4.
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No, it will not work for sure. You should give us some more information and the screenshots of your usage. You probably have some sort of wakelock going on. Use something like Better Battery Stats and monitor those first.
martonikaj said:
No, it will not work for sure. You should give us some more information and the screenshots of your usage. You probably have some sort of wakelock going on. Use something like Better Battery Stats and monitor those first.
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Thanks. Will do some tests and post the screenshots.
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These are with Sync set as 'ON'
and these with Sync set as 'Off'
after installing Better Battery Status
Hi everybody. This is what I got after installing the Better Battery Stats. Can anyone pls help me with this?
Any help will be highly appreciated.
honestly i can't see any issue, more thing you sync more battery drain you will have, it's normal....
try to disable the mobile data and the battery will last much longer
Viridis Draco said:
honestly i can't see any issue, more thing you sync more battery drain you will have, it's normal....
try to disable the mobile data and the battery will last much longer
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the battery is draining even when I am not using it all. Is battery drain @ 4-5% per hour is okay when not using the phone at all?

Should I root?

I just got my nexus this past week and I'm wondering if I should root. I'm coming from an Optimus V where it was a necessity to root. Are there any roms and kernels that can help save battery life?
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Of course . I can't live without root. But its really preference.
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The better question is why should you not root?
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Don't bother rooting.
use the nexus toolbox to unlock and flash a custom recovery, then create a backup in recovery.
Flash aokp b37 and franco nightly 166 kernel, and you'll be amazed at how much smoother, how much better the battery life is, and how much more customizable your phone is.
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bongostl said:
Don't bother rooting.
use the nexus toolbox to unlock and flash a custom recovery, then create a backup in recovery.
Flash aokp b37 and franco nightly 166 kernel, and you'll be amazed at how much smoother, how much better the battery life is, and how much more customizable your phone is.
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I wouldn't suggest this. I would read up on how to do things manually and don't rely in toolkits.
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I wouldn't suggest this. I would read up on how to do things manually and don't rely in toolkits.
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+1 this
- Google
Got mine two days ago and just had to root for a little more performance... let alone my battery life doubled. Do it and you won't regret.
Maui4x4 said:
Got mine two days ago and just had to root for a little more performance... let alone my battery life doubled. Do it and you won't regret.
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What ROM and kernel are you using? Battery life is dearly important to me. I would do bad things for battery life...
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What ROM and kernel are you using? Battery life is dearly important to me. I would do bad things for battery life...
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Anything that is based on 4.0.4, even stock. I don't find custom kernels to make a big difference in saving battery (my opinion).. as concerning whether u should root or not, it depends on what u want to do with ur phone and whether u're satisfied or not with stock. Users' needs and expectations differ, so don't let anyone make that decision for u.
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Got mine two days ago and just had to root for a little more performance... let alone my battery life doubled. Do it and you won't regret.
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Sorry,but i must call BS on this one, there's no way u could've got a realistic estimate of ur battery in those 2days.
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Here is my opinion: Why would anyone buy an Android phone if you don't root it? I hate Apple as a company but even I admit that the iPhone is a great piece of technology that inspired all the Android phones. If you don't want to root your device, just return it and get an iPhone.
If you want bloatware gone (yes GN has it too), more customization, better battery life, and snappier phone, go ahead and root and customize. I did it manually, YMMV. I use AOKP and Franco's kernel.
I just ran into a problem when rooting. I unlocked the bootloader and flashed clockworkmod and then pulled the battery to reboot but it didn't wipe the phone so I'm not sure what to do
PS: Sorry for not putting this in the Q&A section but I just realized.
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Sorry,but i must call BS on this one, there's no way u could've got a realistic estimate of ur battery in those 2days.
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Don't have to say sorry lol, I'll drop screens in this thread way later after I run this charge down.
To O.P.:
Check out my sig and I barely use 3g so that helps a lot.
Maui4x4 said:
Don't have to say sorry lol, I'll drop screens in this thread way later after I run this charge down.
To O.P.:
Check out my sig and I barely use 3g so that helps a lot.
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mate, u have to run a few full cycles of the battery to make an objective analysis, u couldn't have done that in the first 2 days u got the phone
I see no reason not to root. Yes it comes down to personal preference but clearly the OP has experience rooting so it shouldn't be that difficult, especially given that this phone was made to be rooted.
Personally, I'm rooted but barely use it for much. Mostly for free tethering and Root Explorer. I just like knowing I can do whatever I want, when I want and I can't possibly screw up my device...for the most part.
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I had root with my infuse, but also use my handset to collect work mail.. They just pushed a policy through the GOOD application that fails compliance if the phone is rooted.
Does anyone have _experience_ with removing root temporarily?
-Thanks, Kevin
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KevinAlbrecht said:
I had root with my infuse, but also use my handset to collect work mail.. They just pushed a policy through the GOOD application that fails compliance if the phone is rooted.
Does anyone have _experience_ with removing root temporarily?
-Thanks, Kevin
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OTA Rootkeeper
a5pe4 said:
I just ran into a problem when rooting. I unlocked the bootloader and flashed clockworkmod and then pulled the battery to reboot but it didn't wipe the phone so I'm not sure what to do
PS: Sorry for not putting this in the Q&A section but I just realized.
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Did you buy it from Google Play? Some phones they ship out don't wipe when you unlock the bootloader
KevinAlbrecht said:
I had root with my infuse, but also use my handset to collect work mail.. They just pushed a policy through the GOOD application that fails compliance if the phone is rooted.
Does anyone have _experience_ with removing root temporarily?
-Thanks, Kevin
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efrant said:
OTA Rootkeeper
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I don't think that's what he meant. I'm not at all an expert, so call me out if I'm crazy, but couldn't you just remove su.zip (idk what a command for that would be) then just reflash it later?
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mtmjr90 said:
I don't think that's what he meant. I'm not at all an expert, so call me out if I'm crazy, but couldn't you just remove su.zip (idk what a command for that would be) then just reflash it later?
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No. That app will do EXACTLY what he is looking for. Don't let the name fool you. It is not just an app to let you keep root during an OTA update -- it allows you to temporarily "unroot" your build.
efrant said:
No. That app will do EXACTLY what he is looking for. Don't let the name fool you. It is not just an app to let you keep root during an OTA update -- it allows you to temporarily "unroot" your build.
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Ah interesting, thanks! Shoulda clicked...
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Best ROM/Kernel combo for battery life (Verizon)

Which toro ROM and kernel have people been getting good battery life with (with the stock battery)?
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Stock
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There isn't one. People need to stop making these ridiculous threads.
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There isn't one. People need to stop making these ridiculous threads.
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That's why I am just replying with stock for all these threads
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It's not stupid. I'm just asking to see what people have been have their experiences with.
It is stupid, considering there are 8+ threads EXACTLY like this.
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It's not stupid. I'm just asking to see what people have been have their experiences with.
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Yes it is stupid... just cuz I get 5 days with so and so ROM and kernel, DOES NOT.. I REPEAT... DOES NOT mean you will also. Nobody can tell you what to expect if we all use are phones differently.
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I get 3 weeks out of one charge with my Nexus. But its on Airplane Mode all that time. CM12 - Best ROM so far.
Sorry... I see these threads all the time & I never reply. But I guess its just a pointless thread so I wanted to put a pointless answer.
They all drain pretty quickly
I think it's less about the right rom/kernel and more about using something like juicedefender or go power management from the play store. They help automatically switch stuff on and off that eats battery quickly.
Prince_Basil said:
I get 3 weeks out of one charge with my Nexus. But its on Airplane Mode all that time. CM12 - Best ROM so far.
Sorry... I see these threads all the time & I never reply. But I guess its just a pointless thread so I wanted to put a pointless answer.
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I think it's less about the right rom/kernel and more about using something like juicedefender or go power management from the play store. They help automatically switch stuff on and off that eats battery quickly.
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Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
Has absolutely nothing to do with juice defender that stuff is a waste of ram.
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Juice defender will do more damage than anything else.
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Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
Has absolutely nothing to do with juice defender that stuff is a waste of ram.
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AmericanCon said:
Juice defender will do more damage than anything else.
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truth
why install something that will run in the background, to save battery? makes no sense at all.
All that juicedefender crap is placebo.
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All that juicedefender crap is placebo.
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In my experience definitely not true. At work I have a hit and miss signal. If I leave 3g active the battery drains really fast while the phone is sleeping. Like 10% in an hour sometimes. Turning on juice defender which for me is just disabling data while the screen is off. The battery will not move in the same amount of time. Maybe 1% will be gone.
I believe it is because the phone keeps trying to grab a signal in the weak areas.
Whatever it is there is for sure a huge difference. I have tested many times. Can hardly get through the day sometimes if I leave data on.
The thing I hate about it is a lot of the time the phone takes forever to reconnect so I have to wait every time I wake it.
i use my phone a lot for web, music, calls, messaging, social app, and the best kernel i used and put in my rom (but for maguro) is Trinity Kernel 1344 cpu / 384 gpu Stable35. i advice this kernel . for the rom a stock rooted, busyboxed, deodexed, zipaligned and with useful build.prop tweak for battery life. this has been my philosophy for my rom and i'm very satisfied
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[Q] Which kernel to use for better battery life

I'm on PA right now. I just wanted to know what I can do to get a better battery life. Right now my battery life sucks. I can barely squeeze in more than 2 and a half hour of on screen time. Please suggest guys.
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Kindly Use Search before posting cause this Question is asked and answered like everyday and still phones are diff so you have to try for your self and i recommend to begin with popular ones
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This.
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You need to spend the minute to flash and try it to determine which is best for YOU. They are all the best to those that use it.
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