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5 Nexus branded phones?

I wasn't able to watch the Google I/O yesterday so I decided to search the internet but couldn't find my answer.
Will we see 5 Nexus devices announced this October like the rumor suggested or is it unlikely?
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moshe22 said:
Will we see announced 5 Nexus devices this October or is it unlikely?
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What?
You mean like a new nexus phone?

Yes sir.
Rumors running around the internet are that google will release 5 Nexus devices each from different manufacturers.
For example, one from Samsung, another from HTC, etc.
I want to know if google said anything about this during the Google I/O yesterday.
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Not sure if they said something about 5 new phones, but they said, they are trying to fix the android version fragmentation problem.

Nope, wasn't mentioned. We'll most likely hear about it later in the year

Alright, thanks
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I was hoping for an announcement too. Also when the price of the Galaxy Nexus was brought down to 350$ I was expecting something.
My old N1 is dying on me! Need a new Nexus phone!

The rumor was up to 5 Nexus "Devices", not necessarily phones.
They already have the Nexus 7 and Nexus Q, and if you include the Galaxy Nexus, that's 3 Nexus "Devices" that they are selling through the Play Store.

dnlsmy said:
The rumor was up to 5 Nexus "Devices", not necessarily phones.
They already have the Nexus 7 and Nexus Q, and if you include the Galaxy Nexus, that's 3 Nexus "Devices" that they are selling through the Play Store.
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Good point! Wait for 2 more devices! Hoping for a phone! or even a Nexus 10!

Personally I hope they stick with the 1/year strategy. Makes them feel more special. Having multiple Nexuses (Nexii?) makes it seem like they're gonna go the Galaxy route and literally slap the Nexus name on anything that connects to facebook

Unlimited nexus
How about nexus certified. You get stock rom alternative for these devices and faster update?

striketrue said:
Personally I hope they stick with the 1/year strategy. Makes them feel more special. Having multiple Nexuses (Nexii?) makes it seem like they're gonna go the Galaxy route and literally slap the Nexus name on anything that connects to facebook
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Most probably they'll go the Apple route. A tablet and a phone alternating every 6 months, with one major version upgrade a year.
So we'll probably get a new Nexus phone on 4.2+ Jellybean this late fall/winter and one or two other Nexus devices

SIII or Note?

Well since you all know that the Galaxy S III is out, and that the Note is coming out July 11, let me ask you this: Which one should I get? Any suggestions help ;D
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Scoutamis said:
Well since you all know that the Galaxy S III is out, and that the Note is coming out July 11, let me ask you this: Which one should I get? Any suggestions help ;D
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S3! Lol. The note is bigger than the S3 but I'm more than happy with the size and capability with my S3.

Its a tough choice. My buddy as an att note and it is really cool. Definitely an attention getter. But the s3 is going to be top dog for a while and should have some awesome development for it. Check both out and get the one that fits you best.
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For me, the S3 isn't enough to leave my S2, especially with the price drop of the GNex AND the new nexus devices that will be released shortly, AND the other new phones that will be released shortly as well.
The TMo Note? That depends. Is it based on the Note 2 that will he released shortly, or is it based on the previous Note, putting it behind in rom development and basically another S2 type situation?
The TMo S2 was released so late that development was very, very slow and I see the TMo Note possibly having the same problem.
I DO like the Note, and would have gotten it in Feb had it been available on TMo then. But 5 months later? I'm gonna wait and see what else is coming along.
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Would the Gnex be a good choice out of contract? I have to replace my samsung galaxy s2 because it had a carrier block from Tmobile (bought from craigslist). I just can't shell out >$600 but the Gnex is pretty cheap relatively.

Dattack said:
Would the Gnex be a good choice out of contract? I have to replace my samsung galaxy s2 because it had a carrier block from Tmobile (bought from craigslist). I just can't shell out >$600 but the Gnex is pretty cheap relatively.
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The GNex is a great deal right now. I'm debating getting it as well, but am trying to hold off to see what the Nexus line is going to be like this year. The price will either stay steady, or continue to go down, so there is no drawback to waiting (unless you wait until a point where it's no longer made and out of stock, that is).
The only real drawbacks are it's last years Nexus, with new models a few months away, and the lack of SD card expansion (Google seems to have done away with that on their developer phones, but we'll see if that continues with the next series of Nexus phones).
However, it's guaranteed to get Jellybean (next month, confirmed), and will most likely get next year's update as well.
BTW, I'm only talking about the GSM GNexus. I don't even consider the Verizon version a Nexus device.
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Well I thought about the Gnex for a while and decided that I wouldn't ever get it. I mean sure its got the curved and high resolution display, but its lacking key features like a micro SD card. And in actuality it will be more expensive for me to get the Gnex. So...I'm most likely going to go with the Galaxy S III but thanks for the suggestions!
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Android Revolution said:
The GNex is a great deal right now. I'm debating getting it as well, but am trying to hold off to see what the Nexus line is going to be like this year. The price will either stay steady, or continue to go down, so there is no drawback to waiting (unless you wait until a point where it's no longer made and out of stock, that is).
The only real drawbacks are it's last years Nexus, with new models a few months away, and the lack of SD card expansion (Google seems to have done away with that on their developer phones, but we'll see if that continues with the next series of Nexus phones).
However, it's guaranteed to get Jellybean (next month, confirmed), and will most likely get next year's update as well.
BTW, I'm only talking about the GSM GNexus. I don't even consider the Verizon version a Nexus device.
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What's different with the Verizon Gnex?
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Scoutamis said:
Well since you all know that the Galaxy S III is out, and that the Note is coming out July 11, let me ask you this: Which one should I get? Any suggestions help ;D
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I for one am going to wait til sept-oct too see the note 2 with a 5.5 screen. Which is also around the iphone 5 is set to release which will also means other goodies samsung and other companies will release to go head to head with it. I see no real reason to upgrade now and then want to upgrade again in just a few months, that's unless you have the money to burn like that.

Scoutamis said:
What's different with the Verizon Gnex?
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Simply put, Verizon got their dirty paws on it. Came without Wallet (although it was able to be sideloaded), had some Verizon bloatware, and updates have been a nightmare for users (took months after ICS updates were released for Verizon GNex users to receive them). In fact, Google has since dropped support for it as a Nexus device (CDMA is a dead technology).
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Simply put, Verizon got their dirty paws on it. Came without Wallet (although it was able to be sideloaded), had some Verizon bloatware, and updates have been a nightmare for users (took months after ICS updates were released for Verizon GNex users to receive them). In fact, Google has since dropped support for it as a Nexus device (CDMA is a dead technology).
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Verizon put bloatware on the Gnex?! That's crazy -.-
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Android Revolution said:
Simply put, Verizon got their dirty paws on it. Came without Wallet (although it was able to be sideloaded), had some Verizon bloatware, and updates have been a nightmare for users (took months after ICS updates were released for Verizon GNex users to receive them). In fact, Google has since dropped support for it as a Nexus device (CDMA is a dead technology).
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So the Verizon nexus didn't get 4.1?
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[Q] Questions about bad ESN Verizon version

Hi all,
I'm new to this forum so hope I'm not repeating too many older threads.
I was looking for an Android device I could use as a media player and while my Galaxy Player 5 has been okay, I really would like something with the latest software updates directly from Google. Unfortunately, besides the Nexus One, no other Nexus device has a microSD slot so I need ~32gb storage and something more portable than the Nexus 7...thus, I'm left with the 32GB Verizon version. As I don't live in the US, I thought I could just get a bad ESN one off eBay but I had a few questions first:
1.) Besides the cellular radio, will a bad ESN version of the phone still function as normal?
2.) Does it have a SIM slot/support GSM frequencies? If so, does a bad ESN mean it won't work with Verizon or not at all? Just good to know for future reference, I suppose.
3.) Will this version of the Galaxy Nexus still receive updates directly from Google or is it one of those odd ones that has carrier limitations? If not, how healthy is the dev community for this version of the phone?
I think that's it. Thank you for any help you can offer!

It'll function.
No, it doesn't support GSM.
It gets updates from Verizon.
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martonikaj said:
It'll function.
No, it doesn't support GSM.
It gets updates from Verizon.
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Wow, that was a fast reply! Thanks for clearing that up.
Also, apologies to the forum admins. Just read the first thread about posting questions in here. Duly noted!

I recommend you get the gsm one, and a 32gb thumb drive.
Will the next nexus have a longer screen?

Mach3.2 said:
I recommend you get the gsm one, and a 32gb thumb drive.
Will the next nexus have a longer screen?
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The next nexus, the lg nexus 4, has a 4.7" screen compared to the Galaxy Nexus's 4.65"
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Mach3.2 said:
I recommend you get the gsm one, and a 32gb thumb drive.
Will the next nexus have a longer screen?
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its slightly wider. thats it.

martonikaj said:
It'll function.
No, it doesn't support GSM.
It gets updates from Verizon.
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Almost correct. The updates for Toro are actually pushed by Google.
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najaboy said:
Almost correct. The updates for Toro are actually pushed by Google.
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With the control and consent of Verizon. Google isn't allowed to push an update independently.

martonikaj said:
With the control and consent of Verizon. Google isn't allowed to push an update independently.
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Verizon only requires that Google does extensive QA before release and provides a report on said testing.
The OTAs come directly from Google. Verizon does not touch them.
Note: Previous delays in updates were not due to Verizon's requirements but rather their ****ty hybrid CDMA/LTE network issues. Not to mention, Qualcomm is really anal about Google releasing open source CDMA binaries.
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Smokeey said:
Verizon only requires that Google does extensive QA before release and provides a report on said testing.
The OTAs come directly from Google. Verizon does not touch them.
Note: Previous delays in updates were not due to Verizon's requirements but rather their ****ty hybrid CDMA/LTE network issues. Not to mention, Qualcomm is really anal about Google releasing open source CDMA binaries.
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Correction.
The binaries are not open source. Neither are the GSM ones.

So seems like KLP at the end =P

Well a drawing made by Manu Cornet (Google's employee) "almost" confirms the name of the next Android version
Kool huh?

I'm pretty sure Schmidt already dropped the name in an interview a whole back but it's good to have some "confirmation".

063_XOBX said:
I'm pretty sure Schmidt already dropped the name in an interview a whole back but it's good to have some "confirmation".
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Hehe yeah xD
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probably with a new Nexus device?

Invicta said:
probably with a new Nexus device?
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Don't think so.. Probably a improved version of N4
Tapatalking on my n7000

Not that i'm saying that it wont be called Key Lime Pie, but the guy who said that has nothing to do with the Android department of Google.
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Don't think so.. Probably a improved version of N4
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If thats true, that sucks for the people who just bought it. I dont think google is that cruel.

Could be a new device category. Android chrome book? Project glass? Improved Nexus Q? They've established a nexus line with the 4,7, and 10 so the only logical thing to do is expand on it.

I'd like to see Google expand the Nexus range by releasing some sort of budget smaller-screen Nexus phone that can go on sales in the Play Store (was hoping the Galaxy Nexus would continue to be sold on the Play Store as a budget device but they ended up just completely removing it). Probably not a good idea to launch a new Android version on a budget phone though lol.
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Chrono_Tata said:
I'd like to see Google expand the Nexus range by releasing some sort of budget smaller-screen Nexus phone that can go on sales in the Play Store (was hoping the Galaxy Nexus would continue to be sold on the Play Store as a budget device but they ended up just completely removing it). Probably not a good idea to launch a new Android version on a budget phone though lol.
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If a top of the line, $300 UNLOCKED smartphone isn't budget, Idk what is...
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A middle of the line, $200 phone?
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Chrono_Tata said:
A middle of the line, $200 phone?
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In other words a Gnex
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A Google employee drew some fan art! GUYS THIS MUDT MEAN THAT WE'RE GETTING THE NEXUS 573839 NEXT TUESDAY AT 9:01AM WITH A SEXTUPLE PROCESSOR AND 18G AND ANDROID 72.3!
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Smokeey said:
A Google employee drew some fan art! GUYS THIS MUDT MEAN THAT WE'RE GETTING THE NEXUS 573839 NEXT TUESDAY AT 9:01AM WITH A SEXTUPLE PROCESSOR AND 18G AND ANDROID 72.3!
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No, it's the idea that the name is sort of confirmed and so we can get an idea that the next version, as it has a different name will be a major version (?) and therefore have more features and stuff
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In other words a Gnex
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Yes, that's exactly what I was implying in my previous post that Google should have sold the GN alongside the N4 with a reduced price as a budget option, but they decided to discontinue it.
If they managed to get a top end device made for ridiculously cheap why not a mid level one for even cheaper. Everyone benefits (probably except phone manufacturers and retailers who are still trying to sell unlocked phones at ridiculously inflated prices).
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Chrono_Tata said:
Yes, that's exactly what I was implying in my previous post that Google should have sold the GN alongside the N4 with a reduced price as a budget option, but they decided to discontinue it.
If they managed to get a top end device made for ridiculously cheap why not a mid level one for even cheaper. Everyone benefits (probably except phone manufacturers and retailers who are still trying to sell unlocked phones at ridiculously inflated prices).
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I have a Nexus S 4G and from what I've experienced from a friends Gnex and read online about the Gnex, can REALLY say it's a mid-level phone? It might be on the lower end of high-end... But IMHO its still not a mid-level phone... Its better for everyone that they don't sell the Gnex cheaper because that would drop the resale value and essentially saturate the market with a "cheap" phone... Not saying the phone is cheaply made, but people think a phone is cheap if its not +300...
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Did none of you read that this is:
- fan art
- by a person on the gmail team
- the guy said he gas no idea what the next one is, just following our suspicion and added it in to complete the art
?
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Wait, wait! We need the next Android version to be a stripper name! Kandy Kane!!!

geoffcorey said:
Did none of you read that this is:
- fan art
- by a person on the gmail team
- the guy said he gas no idea what the next one is, just following our suspicion and added it in to complete the art
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+1. It's comical, yet sad, to see people actually ascribe some kind of meaning to it.
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the1dynasty said:
I have a Nexus S 4G and from what I've experienced from a friends Gnex and read online about the Gnex, can REALLY say it's a mid-level phone? It might be on the lower end of high-end... But IMHO its still not a mid-level phone... Its better for everyone that they don't sell the Gnex cheaper because that would drop the resale value and essentially saturate the market with a "cheap" phone... Not saying the phone is cheaply made, but people think a phone is cheap if its not +300...
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Maybe mid-level isn't the right word, but it's definitely not one of the current high-end phones. Anyway Apple, for example, has always been selling their previous models with reduced prices as a budget offering so it's not a strange concept. Anyway, saturating the market with good but cheap(er) phones isn't exactly a bad idea. If anything it encourages more manufacturers to make better, cheaper phones to stay competitive, which is good for consumers.
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No need for speculations; the author did mention to not read too much into it ..

Anyone thinking of getting the new Moto X?

Just wondering everything we know seems to suggest a "nexus" phone really, even if it won't be branded as such. I did not care for the LG version, so I skipped it but I am seriously thinking of upgrading to the Moto X unless the information posted so far turns out to be wrong.

Not on Verizon lol
Edit: for me, I like specs. This phone will not keep my interest with mid range specs. Maybe if I see the software on this phone with the Google optimizations, I might consider. For now, eyes are on a potential Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 smartphone.
Note 3!
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Landara said:
I did not care for the LG version, so I skipped it but I am seriously thinking of upgrading to the Moto X
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Just being curious, why are you interested in the Moto X and not the Nexus 4, when both devices look really similar in terms of specs (the Nexus 4 looks even slightly better) ?

I'm thinking about the just announced Droid Maxx to replace my GNex. I'm waiting until I can hold it and people start getting them. Spec sheets are overrated.

KWKSLVR said:
I'm thinking about the just announced Droid Maxx to replace my GNex. I'm waiting until I can hold it and people start getting them. Spec sheets are overrated.
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Locked bootloader? No thanks.
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Yann89 said:
Just being curious, why are you interested in the Moto X and not the Nexus 4, when both devices look really similar in terms of specs (the Nexus 4 looks even slightly better) ?
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Locked bootloader? No thanks.
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+1 to both.
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I think my power button is going out so I'm sort of in the market for a new phone(thank god for volume wake/navbar screen off). As long as the price below $250, gets better battery life than our GN, I'm in. But I'm also curious if this IS the new nexus or if they'll be releasing another $350 Nexus with better specs later this year.

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But I'm also curious if this IS the new nexus or if they'll be releasing another $350 Nexus with better specs later this year.
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dancingtortoise, it's not a new Nexus phone: the Nexus 4 will still be in available for sale. We can probably expect a new Nexus phone for Oct-Nov 2013.

Yeah, I like the customization options for it, only thing holding me back (and only by a small bit) is the last year specs. That said, if the price is right then I'll pick it over the Nexus 4 and finally drop Sprint to switch to TMobile. Regardless, the Moto X price I think will be the deciding factor, if it's $200-ish then alot of people will probably get it just based on the hype alone. If it's $300-ish or more then I imagine it will fall more into a niche market.

I started with the original moto droid but I swore off Motorola after I got the droid 3. I was very disappointed. I used a fascinate in between selling the d3 and getting the gnex. I was running hellybean 4.2.2 and loving it, on a single core! The new moto phones look nice, but I will wait until the next Google nexus comes out, no matter who makes it. I just hope the phone comes out for Verizon too this time!
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Just being curious, why are you interested in the Moto X and not the Nexus 4, when both devices look really similar in terms of specs (the Nexus 4 looks even slightly better) ?
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The Nexus 4 was too flimsy, heard waaaaay too many horror stories about build quality, easy breaking and lock ups. And anyway the hardware improvements were not a big enough upgrade to me, and I already had the software on my GNex. The hardware upgrades here seem more of an actual upgrade(i like the alleged 32gb option). Even though as before I will have to wait and see, and I will already have the new software upgrades since I am assuming this thing runs 4.3

ca.reaper said:
I started with the original moto droid but I swore off Motorola after I got the droid 3. I was very disappointed. I used a fascinate in between selling the d3 and getting the gnex. I was running hellybean 4.2.2 and loving it, on a single core! The new moto phones look nice, but I will wait until the next Google nexus comes out, no matter who makes it. I just hope the phone comes out for Verizon too this time!
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From everything I have heard, and certainly this has not been confirmed, there will never be another nexus phone on Verizon. Ever. Google was pissed the way Verizon dealt with them on the GNex and supposedly has unofficially said they will never do that again. So at the very least you may want to think of a plan B

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Not on Verizon lol
Edit: for me, I like specs. This phone will not keep my interest with mid range specs. Maybe if I see the software on this phone with the Google optimizations, I might consider. For now, eyes are on a potential Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 smartphone.
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And what device on Verizon DOESN'T have a locked bootloader (GNex doesn't count)? The One when/if it hits? Well, if you like the One, go for it. Based on what was released earlier today, the Moto X/Droid line is far from "mid range specs". Hogwash, pure hogwash. The mid range spec thing was a rumor based on rumor. Motorola didn't say that and neither has any carrier. It was assumed because the processor was listed as "dual core" on FCC filings. Further, we haven't really seen the device in action yet. So far it looks like stock Android with a couple of Motorola widgets and some custom icons tossed in here and there along the OS. Looking at Motorola's X8 processor, it seems far from "old". Just because you read "Dual Core" online, it doesn't really mean a whole lot in this case. Is it going to be developer friendly? Probably not. But it depends on what you want. If you want to spend the life of your device flashing buggy roms and waiting for CM XX.XX to finally finish right as the next version of Android comes out so you do it all over again, well, then it's probably not for you. I think the X8 looks very intriguing.
For me, if it runs smooth, fast and lasts as long as my GNex does with my Hyperion then frankly it's a home run. I've always looked to Nexus devices to get the latest updates. Now, with Google's new APK's, that's less of an issue to me. Further, with Motorola having exclusive right's to develop the "Droid" line for Verizon and talks of them slowing down device roll outs, I'm thinking that this might provide opportunities for more updates (Especially with Google having a hand in Motorola now).
Don't like it, don't buy it. Personally, I moved to Verizon for the GNex knowing full well that it might be the only thing remotely close to "Nexus" that the carrier ever got. If it runs smooth with zero lag then that puts it up there with the One, and both will stand above the S4. Looking at a Spec Sheet is right up there with a redneck showing off their belt buckle size. People are duped into buying laggy crappy phones with awesome spec sheets every quarter.
Chase those quad cores that don't even have software and apps optimized to use them.
Do you optimize, bros!?

Landara said:
From everything I have heard, and certainly this has not been confirmed, there will never be another nexus phone on Verizon. Ever. Google was pissed the way Verizon dealt with them on the GNex and supposedly has unofficially said they will never do that again. So at the very least you may want to think of a plan B
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Noooooooooooo! That might be enough for me to move to another carrier. I just hate to lose my unlimited data.
Wasntv Verizon getting the different versions of the HTC one and S4 with AOSP versions of android on them?
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ca.reaper said:
Noooooooooooo! That might be enough for me to move to another carrier. I just hate to lose my unlimited data.
Wasntv Verizon getting the different versions of the HTC one and S4 with AOSP versions of android on them?
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Not sure but even if so, you could always buy a verizon phone, root it and toss pure Android on it You'd have to pay full price for that HTC one. Honestly paying full price for a subsidized verizon contract AND paying full price for a phone would just be silly.

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Noooooooooooo! That might be enough for me to move to another carrier. I just hate to lose my unlimited data.
Wasntv Verizon getting the different versions of the HTC one and S4 with AOSP versions of android on them?
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Nope the Nexus experience devices are for ATT and T-Mobile only
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Peeee yoooo. Who farted?
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Landara said:
Not sure but even if so, you could always buy a verizon phone, root it and toss pure Android on it You'd have to pay full price for that HTC one. Honestly paying full price for a subsidized verizon contract AND paying full price for a phone would just be silly.
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Yeah, just not the moto phones with locked boot loaders That's what made me get rid of my d3. Well I'm happy with my gnex for now, we'll just have to wait and see. I don't see a need to get rid of it for at least another year. Even if we don't get KLP, cm or other ROM devs will keep it going for a bit. :beer:
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From what I've read around the web.. Nothing official, of course.... The Moto X looks to be similar in specs as the Droid Ultra.
I don't know if Verizon cares or not, but there are a lot of g'nex users keeping their phones due to lack of a satisfactory replacement. Maybe that will put a little pressure on big V to have 1 nexus phone on their service.
Just dreaming....
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Here is an article about the issue with Verizon.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-33620_3-5...zon-ever-see-a-pure-android-smartphone-again/