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Upgrade to g nex?

I have a epic 4g touch and im debating on getting the nexus. So i was wondering on if people can give me insight to call quality, signal, data speed, and battery life of 4.0.4? T-mobile gnexuses please
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Just look through the forums. There's numerous threads about everything related to the Galaxy Nexus.

PinnerProxy said:
I have a epic 4g touch and im debating on getting the nexus. So i was wondering on if people can give me insight to call quality, signal, data speed, and battery life of 4.0.4? T-mobile gnexuses please
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I can't say much regarding call quality nor signal but where I live and commute, there are definite signal blackspots (but not due to the phone). However when the phone actually has a full HSPA connection, it zips through downloads and *uploads*. Sure it might be as fast as some other phones or LTE but it's fine for my uses. Battery life is pretty average to be honest though with a custom ROM and kernel, you really do get a much better battery life (~3 hours on-screen time depending on how hard you use it). I've had 3-4 day standby battery lives though. NOTE: this was when I was using a 4.0.3 ROM.
It seems that Google has improved battery life in the stock 4.0.4 ROM (which I'm currently using).

PinnerProxy said:
I have a epic 4g touch and im debating on getting the nexus. So i was wondering on if people can give me insight to call quality, signal, data speed, and battery life of 4.0.4? T-mobile gnexuses please
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Which carrier are you talking about? T-mobile (which country?)
Epic 4G Touch is Sprint. Are you staying on Sprint? Leaving Sprint?

I have a GSM and use a T mobile USA SIM. Best phone currently out. And will be until the HTC One series is released
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The Nexus Project said:
I have a GSM and use a T mobile USA SIM. Best phone currently out. And will be until the HTC One series is released
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Wrong. Galaxy Nexus > HTC One series.
Pretty self explainitory.
1) When Android 5.0 comes out, Galaxy Nexus will get it first before all these other phones.
2) Developer friendly. Bootloader unlockable via fastboot without any need for exploits.
3) On Screen nav keys.
4) stock android

zephiK said:
Maybe, in my opinion Galaxy Nexus > HTC One series.
Pretty self explainitory.
1) When Android 5.0 comes out, Galaxy Nexus will get it first before all these other phones.
2) Developer friendly. Bootloader unlockable via fastboot without any need for exploits.
3) On Screen nav keys.
4) stock android
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Fixed
Jk I agree with you but decided to play devils advocate.
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ChongoDroid said:
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Jk I agree with you but decided to play devils advocate.
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It's okay. Sometimes I have a feeling people play devil's advocate on purpose for their entertainment.

I would say it is awesome improvement. Have you experienced any browser lag when opening any web pages? It's rampant, it seems, on T-Mobile phones but since the Galaxy Nexus isn't their nor has it been touched and molested by them I believe the lag is non existant. It's awesome. Go for it!
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Well the Galaxy Nexus does beat the HTC One series in particular aspects (mainly development/software and the 'open' environment) but many people don't need those aspects so it's up to personal preference. HTC dominates the Nexus in terms of specs.
But who cares, I love the aesthetics of the nexus.
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Unlawful said:
Well the Galaxy Nexus does beat the HTC One series in particular aspects (mainly development/software and the 'open' environment) but many people don't need those aspects so it's up to personal preference. HTC dominates the Nexus in terms of specs.
But who cares, I love the aesthetics of the nexus.
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Doesn't matter how good the hardware is when Sense will cripple the phone's speedyness

zephiK said:
Doesn't matter how good the hardware is when Sense will cripple the phone's speedyness
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Even on the Tegra 3/S4 the phone still does seem jerky.

Go for it

zephiK said:
Wrong. Galaxy Nexus > HTC One series.
Pretty self explainitory.
1) When Android 5.0 comes out, Galaxy Nexus will get it first before all these other phones.
2) Developer friendly. Bootloader unlockable via fastboot without any need for exploits.
3) On Screen nav keys.
4) stock android
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I thought HTC was gonna stop shipping phones with lock bootloaders
But I do agree Gnex over HTC One series .. Sense is just too much of nothing
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YoungAceAtlanta said:
I thought HTC was gonna stop shipping phones with lock bootloaders
But I do agree Gnex over HTC One series .. Sense is just too much of nothing
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HTC still ships their phones with locked bootloaders. You have to unlock the bootloader via their dev website. But doing so, this will FULLY VOID your warranty and there is no way coming back because you have to provide HTC with your device information. I find this unacceptable. You can alternatively avoid this by finding a exploit to obtain root access etc etc etc.
On the other hand, with Nexus devices--it says that unlocking the bootloader will void your warranty but you can just flash back to stock and then lock the bootloader. They can't tell the difference, and honestly... warranty is only there for physical defects, most of the problems fixed by warranty aren't by software problems unless you brick your device.
http://htcdev.com/bootloader/ if you want to know more.

aneftp said:
Which carrier are you talking about? T-mobile (which country?)
Epic 4G Touch is Sprint. Are you staying on Sprint? Leaving Sprint?
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I'm possibly leavig sprint for T-Mobile cuz my parents have seperate phone bills
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Galaxy Nexus from Google Play - Updates?

I've just ordered a Galaxy Nexus from Google, and I'm now reading threads that there are some Nexus phones that don't get updates at the same speed? Does that include the ones directly from Google?

fusedpositron said:
I've just ordered a Galaxy Nexus from Google, and I'm now reading threads that there are some Nexus phones that don't get updates at the same speed? Does that include the ones directly from Google?
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You're on XDA. You'll always have updates.
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SocialReject said:
You're on XDA. You'll always have updates.
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This. Case closed.

LOL. I mean official updates though.

There hasn't been a minor incremental update since google started selling the gnex on the play store (I.e. 4.0.4 -> 4.0.5), so it's hard to say about the google play gnex, but the prevailing thought is that the play gnex is a google direct phone, instead of through some 3rd party,and will be the main one to receive the official updates the soonest, but with the GSM gnex, having the latest software is as simple as downloading the code, compiling, and flashing.
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Play store gnex comes with takju, it's directly updated by Google provided that you did not mess with the os, or ota will just fail.
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fusedpositron said:
I've just ordered a Galaxy Nexus from Google, and I'm now reading threads that there are some Nexus phones that don't get updates at the same speed? Does that include the ones directly from Google?
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LOL. I mean official updates though.
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The Play Store model is on the firmware "takju" and gets updates directly from Google as soon as they're available (slowed down a tad by their update strategy that rolls in batches).
The reason why some Galaxy Nexus devices don't get updates right away is because they're handled by Samsung and some local carriers. They have some regional tweaks and radios that take longer to work with before updating.
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Thanks for the explanation guys!

[TMOUS] Since S3 has wifi calling - can it be ripped and put into Galaxy Nexus?

Hi all,
Since the Galaxy S3 has now been released on TMOUS, can the setup/framework/etc be ported onto the GSM Galaxy Nexus?
Is that a reasonable expectation?
There is a lot of FUD going around about how the wifi calling is device-specific and cannot be ported to any device.
I can understand that to a certain extent but the S3 and Galaxy Nexus have a lot of similar innards from what I understand so I wanted to revisit the situation.

Short answer: no because of the ril.
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Don't see it happening. The SGSIII and GNex actually don't have a lot in common in terms of insides.
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geoffcorey said:
Short answer: no because of the ril.
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martonikaj said:
Don't see it happening. The SGSIII and GNex actually don't have a lot in common in terms of insides.
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Thanks for your replies guy.
TMOUS Bobsled fukin sucks balls. I'll go back and weep in my corner.

geoffcorey said:
Short answer: no because of the ril.
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This actually isn't relevant anymore. Since T-Mobile switched to IMS it no longer requires custom IRL/Kernel to authenticate over GAN.
IMS has already been open sourced: see imsdroid or andoird-ims
This should/could be supported in any current version of Android if someone took the time to figure this out and hand the know-how to do so.
Unfortunately, I am not that person, but I think this could be realized considering the information available.
I have confirmed with T-Mobile that this requires an IMS SIM card, which they have just shipped to me for free (Arrives Friday). Other than that, it should be handled at the application level.

This may be of some use to someone:
code.google.com/r/jimf-tmobile/source/browse

When do you think Google will stop supporting the Galaxy Nexus with updates?

I know we all wish the Nexus will be supported for many years to come but being realistic about it, when do you think Google will drop support for the Galaxy Nexus?
This is a relatively powerful device so it should have official updates for at least until the end of 2013, right?

CADude said:
I know we all wish the Nexus will be supported for many years to come but being realistic about it, when do you think Google will drop support for the Galaxy Nexus?
This is a relatively powerful device so it should have official updates for at least until the end of 2013, right?
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Yh it started on 4.x so it should last at least 2 major versions more upto 6.x.

raze599 said:
Yh it started on 4.x so it should last at least 2 major versions more upto 6.x.
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Realistically, I would say 5.x will be the last.
However, unlike Apple, who wants you to keep buying devices, Google just wants you to keep using the software, so it would be dumb of them to stop supporting Nexus phones after 2 years.

I voted 5.x, it just depends on how many incremental updates there are.
Nexus One released with 2.1
Nexus S released with 2.3
Galaxy Nexus released with 4.0
So for all we know, the next Nexus phone could be Android 4.2, 4.3, etc.
The one after that could be 4.4, 4.5, etc.
Just depends on how long they stretch out the versions.
And we all know each version most likely will branch out within, like 4.1.2, etc. so nobody really can probably give a good guess.
Although since dual core by no means is slacking in hardware for most apps, etc. compared to the N1 and Nexus S with single cores.
I don't see the GNex dropping off the radar for at least 2-3 years, no matter what.

I think it will hang in the top of phones for update for three years at least.it has good hardware and it was the first phone to recieve jellybean,and it will be the first or at least second,if google releases a new nexus,to recieve a next android update.look at the nexus s,it is single core,a bit old-ish,and it recieved jellybean update second.
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this is why owning a nexus is awesome...
No getting dropped by a company with no support.
I'm only buying nexus phones from this point out

crixley said:
this is why owning a nexus is awesome...
No getting dropped by a company with no support.
I'm only buying nexus phones from this point out
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I don't see the Nexus One having Android 4.0 though, and it can easily support it.
Let's hope Google doesn't do the same with the Galaxy Nexus and drop support when 5.x comes out.

CADude said:
I don't see the Nexus One having Android 4.0 though, and it can easily support it.
Let's hope Google doesn't do the same with the Galaxy Nexus and drop support when 5.x comes out.
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Nexus one is a old phone,and it could run 4.0 easly,but google focused their work on newer phones.
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CADude said:
I don't see the Nexus One having Android 4.0 though, and it can easily support it.
Let's hope Google doesn't do the same with the Galaxy Nexus and drop support when 5.x comes out.
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if anything nexus s would be dropped first.
there are tons of roms for nexus one still anyway, I'm not concerned

D3HuM4NiZ3D said:
Nexus one is a old phone,and it could run 4.0 easly,but google focused their work on newer phones.
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Yes, but why not support a phone for at least 2 more major versions considering that Google's goal is to have people use the software that connects them to Google services? It doesn't matter that the phone is 2 years old, as long as the software keeps working on it and connects people to the cloud or whatnot.
The Nexus One was always stuck in the 2.x version of Android. This makes no sense considering their gameplan.

CADude said:
Yes, but why not support a phone for at least 2 more major versions considering that Google's goal is to have people use the software that connects them to Google services? It doesn't matter that the phone is 2 years old, as long as the software keeps working on it and connects people to the cloud or whatnot.
The Nexus One was always stuck in the 2.x version of Android. This makes no sense considering their gameplan.
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nexus phones will have custom roms until you wear the phone out, as unlike normal phones you don'tneed to wait for drivers and source to be released.
go look at the dev section for nexus one, there are tons of jellybean Roms.
I don't get your concern

In December they will probably stop supporting the Nexus S and the Galaxy Nexus will get the next update.
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D3HuM4NiZ3D said:
Nexus one is a old phone,and it could run 4.0 easly,but google focused their work on newer phones.
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nexus one uses a QSD8250 chip with adreno 200 , it has also limited (small) /system and /data partitions so u have to use custom hboots and data2sd methods.. i don't see how either ICS or JB can run easily, they run, but they are full of issues..

crixley said:
nexus phones will have custom roms until you wear the phone out, as unlike normal phones you don'tneed to wait for drivers and source to be released.
go look at the dev section for nexus one, there are tons of jellybean Roms.
I don't get your concern
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Yeah, and they're problematic.

CADude said:
Yeah, and they're problematic.
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S it's Google's fault technology progressed?

crixley said:
S it's Google's fault technology progressed?
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It's Google's fault they didn't make sure a phone they put their name on get updates past one major version.
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CADude said:
It's Google's fault they didn't make sure a phone they put their name on get updates past one major version.
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didn't it go from eclair to gb?
technology progressed a lot not you can do there...
Quit whining

crixley said:
didn't it go from eclair to gb?
technology progressed a lot not you can do there...
Quit whining
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Not good enough. Should have gone from 2.x to 4.x
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I assume that the Nexus One was dropped because it has just 256MB RAM. Judging from how much RAM Android 4 eats up on my Galaxy Nexus, it would require some serious modifications to trim down the RAM usage.

MoosDiagramm said:
I assume that the Nexus One was dropped because it has just 256MB RAM. Judging from how much RAM Android 4 eats up on my Galaxy Nexus, it would require some serious modifications to trim down the RAM usage.
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This is true.
they said they had to do loads of ram mods to get it to work smoothly on the nexus s with 512mb ram
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Who is sick CDMA phones not getting latest updates? Nexus included...

OK I have two lines of vzw service. I am so sick of having to wait almost a year for an updated is but by then that is outdated as Google will have 4.2 but key lime pie will be announced soon... I got so sick of it I already traded on phone a RAZR xt912 for a iPhone 4. I placed another ad on craigslist to trade my galaxy nexus.... this update crap of even a nexus having to wait months is crap. I am gonna try to trade my 32gb galaxy nexus for an iPhone 4 or 4s or 5....
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Blame the carrier. No one else
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Zepius said:
Blame the carrier. No one else
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Yes I agree. You see apple can release an update and when Apple says its available its available.... so if apple can do it then Google can as well. Google should never announce the newest version until all phones that can handle it are ready for it.
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rezoundness said:
Yes I agree. You see apple can release an update and when Apple says its available its available.... so if apple can do it then Google can as well. Google should never announce the newest version until all phones that can handle it are ready for it.
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Different story with Android vs Apple. The entirety of Apple's lineup doesn't even equal one year's worth of Android releases, so there are far fewer device builds to write for. In addition Apple is completely in charge of the manufacturing process for their products, whereas Google is only partially in control of one. Even with all of that nonsense though, the manufacturer skins and carrier testing are the major bottlenecks for the pace of update releases.
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Pierceye said:
Different story with Android vs Apple. The entirety of Apple's lineup doesn't even equal one year's worth of Android releases, so there are far fewer device builds to write for. In addition Apple is completely in charge of the manufacturing process for their products, whereas Google is only partially in control of one. Even with all of that nonsense though, the manufacturer skins and carrier testing are the major bottlenecks for the pace of update releases.
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Still that's no excuse... the base is should be upgradable just like in windows phone series... Google needs to stop custom market skins like sense ui and touchwiz or make parts of them optional like how go launcher go dialer go SMS all are. Also android hardware should be all the same.. let the device look different by the external design such as glass plastic metal and such...
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Why go for CDMA in the first place? GSM is the way to go. I don't care for the lousy LTE speeds, anything I need can be done with 5mbps.

rezoundness said:
Yes I agree. You see apple can release an update and when Apple says its available its available.... so if apple can do it then Google can as well. Google should never announce the newest version until all phones that can handle it are ready for it.
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apple still gets carrier approval. it seems seemless because they wait to publish the update until they get all the approvals.

Zepius said:
apple still gets carrier approval. it seems seemless because they wait to publish the update until they get all the approvals.
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Then that's what Google needs to do for all devices wait until all approvals are given and we know exactly what devices will get it.
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Google should never announce the newest version until all phones that can handle it are ready for it.
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So you never want Google to release updates? Great plan there. Everyone knows GSM phones are the only truly free (as in open, not free as in beer) phones.

iLeopard said:
Why go for CDMA in the first place? GSM is the way to go. I don't care for the lousy LTE speeds, anything I need can be done with 5mbps.
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It came down to me having to pay past bills to att and T-Mobile... Verizon was no deposit...
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Here are your two reasons:
1) Google releases source code, and relies on an open platform. CDMA is NOT an open platform. So verizon/sprint/etc get to dictate terms.
2) Verizon HATES open platforms/being told what to do. This is why you see the CDMA GNex not getting timely updates (vzw/sprint has to OK it) and also why you see vzw blocking Google wallet, adding in their apps.
If you want ALL carriers to stop their bull****, stop buying their phones and start buying open platforms such as unlocked gsm nexus phones. The carriers make a lot of money off their subsidized phones and accompanying plans. Remove their power, and they'll listen.
Also, the reason apple can update the way they do is: a "unified" userbase, and not having an open platform.
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What I'm sick of is people buying CDMA phones then crying when they don't get the update immediately. You knew this was coming when you bought the phone. Delayed CDMA updates have happened before, it's nothing new. It's like complaining about waiting in line at the DMV.

I am upset because I was under the impression that a Galaxy Nexus was a true nexus and I was sure I would get the full experience. I wish I would have known the CDMA GNex wouldn't be as supported as the GSM GNex
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rezoundness said:
It came down to me having to pay past bills to att and T-Mobile... Verizon was no deposit...
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Gotcha. What about prepaid?
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shadow77048 said:
I am upset because I was under the impression that a Galaxy Nexus was a true nexus and I was sure I would get the full experience. I wish I would have known the CDMA GNex wouldn't be as supported as the GSM GNex
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It still makes it a CDMA phone, common sense if you ask me.

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It still makes it a CDMA phone, common sense if you ask me.
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then i have to pay full retail price of the phone and about a grand for an iphone 5 and about 700 to 1 grand for an s3... and then the nexus 4 has no lte. I would love to use simple mobile with 4g speeds.... Put i will now try to trade for an iphone of some sort. The update 4.2 was released today by google and i still dont have it on my gnex from verizon. All nexus devices should be like iphones and be world phones.. apple can program them at the factory as to cdma or gsm.... so them we can jail break them and switch between gsm and cdma....

I'm on sprint... next year I won't be. Nuff said. LOL. It's not Google's fault.

btate0121 said:
I'm on sprint... next year I won't be. Nuff said. LOL. It's not Google's fault.
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Yes.it is googles fault. They should handle all updates via the play store for all os. I went to vzw they blame Google... Google blames carriers...
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Have you read up on this at all? Basically the drivers for the CDMA technology is what holds the process up.. that's a carrier problem. GSM is an open standard where CDMA is closed, so carriers have to get involved with Google to make sure updates work the way they're supposed to. ESPECIALLY with LTE.. which is why there's no LTE on the Nexus 4. Your best bet is T-Mobile. I'm fine with that. T-Mob is actually pretty good in my area and HSPA+ is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than Sprints crappy 3G and non-existant LTE service.
All that to say. No it's not Google's fault. They ARE handling the updates OTA where they can.. but Sprint and Verizon have to lock down the radio's and what not. I actually applaud Google for going the route they did with the Nexus 4. It's a philosophy I'm willing to support with my dollars. I'm willing to give up LTE ... which i technically don't have now anyway.

rezoundness said:
then i have to pay full retail price of the phone and about a grand for an iphone 5 and about 700 to 1 grand for an s3... and then the nexus 4 has no lte. I would love to use simple mobile with 4g speeds.... Put i will now try to trade for an iphone of some sort. The update 4.2 was released today by google and i still dont have it on my gnex from verizon. All nexus devices should be like iphones and be world phones.. apple can program them at the factory as to cdma or gsm.... so them we can jail break them and switch between gsm and cdma....
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The GSM GN only ran at $350 plus tax which is a very reasonable price considering you're not going to be tied to contracts and are free to switch from carrier to carrier with the same device.
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rezoundness said:
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apple still gets carrier approval. it seems seemless because they wait to publish the update until they get all the approvals.
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Then that's what Google needs to do for all devices wait until all approvals are given and we know exactly what devices will get it.
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So you want google to delay their updates to the rest of us just so you won't get unhappy?
Like the way Verizon was stuck on 4.0.2 for months?
I don't think so.