I've just ordered a Galaxy Nexus from Google, and I'm now reading threads that there are some Nexus phones that don't get updates at the same speed? Does that include the ones directly from Google?
fusedpositron said:
I've just ordered a Galaxy Nexus from Google, and I'm now reading threads that there are some Nexus phones that don't get updates at the same speed? Does that include the ones directly from Google?
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You're on XDA. You'll always have updates.
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You're on XDA. You'll always have updates.
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This. Case closed.
LOL. I mean official updates though.
There hasn't been a minor incremental update since google started selling the gnex on the play store (I.e. 4.0.4 -> 4.0.5), so it's hard to say about the google play gnex, but the prevailing thought is that the play gnex is a google direct phone, instead of through some 3rd party,and will be the main one to receive the official updates the soonest, but with the GSM gnex, having the latest software is as simple as downloading the code, compiling, and flashing.
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Play store gnex comes with takju, it's directly updated by Google provided that you did not mess with the os, or ota will just fail.
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fusedpositron said:
I've just ordered a Galaxy Nexus from Google, and I'm now reading threads that there are some Nexus phones that don't get updates at the same speed? Does that include the ones directly from Google?
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fusedpositron said:
LOL. I mean official updates though.
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The Play Store model is on the firmware "takju" and gets updates directly from Google as soon as they're available (slowed down a tad by their update strategy that rolls in batches).
The reason why some Galaxy Nexus devices don't get updates right away is because they're handled by Samsung and some local carriers. They have some regional tweaks and radios that take longer to work with before updating.
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Thanks for the explanation guys!
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Sounds like it's halted....
"If you received an update notification a little while ago but the update isn't currently available for your phone, this is likely the result of Google pausing the update in your area while we monitor feedback. The Android 4.0 update is continuing to roll out around the world so your phone will receive another update notification when it's available again in your region"
http://www.androidcentral.com/ice-cream-sandwich-battery-bug-seems-hit-or-miss-something
That quote is from Google's Paul Wilcox, and was in reference to the Galaxy S, not the Galaxy Nexus.
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/20/google-sticks-nexus-s-ics-update-back-in-the-freezer/
RandomEncounter said:
That quote is from Google's Paul Wilcox, and was in reference to the Galaxy S, not the Galaxy Nexus.
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/20/google-sticks-nexus-s-ics-update-back-in-the-freezer/
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He means Nexus S not Galaxy S
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He means Nexus S not Galaxy S
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That is indeed what I meant. My bad
Hi.. Just got my replacment galaxy nexus maybe 2 weeks ago and im thinking "should i get the galaxy s 3.. It will cost me and extra 50euro if i want to bring my galaxy nexus back to the shop and swap for the gs3. So if you were in my shoes would you do it or? Please leave your comment on what you think
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This is the Galaxy Nexus forum. Of course no one here will say they would take the S³.
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For only 50 eurons on top? Yeah, I'd personally go for it.
Hell of an upgrade for that money.
The only reason I would do that - for the better battery time. S3 has a bigger battery and specs are promising a long battery time.
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I can only give you the same advice I would give anyone when it comes to choosing a personal device, ROM, kernel, or just about anything for that matter.
Try both, see what fits you best. If you personally like the GS3 better, go for it. If you don't, don't. Do what makes you happy and not what makes others happy.
Hmmm good answers i like the s3 but love the way were getting android 5.0 before anyone else whenever its out
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Hmmm good answers i like the s3 but love the way were getting android 5.0 before anyone else whenever its out
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And even 4.1 as well.
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Why you are so excited about early updates? What updates Nexus got first than others which would be worth mentioning? Except the ICS itself?
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bullka said:
Why you are so excited about early updates? What updates Nexus got first than others which would be worth mentioning? Except the ICS itself?
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Galaxy Nexus (GSM) = Android updates as soon as they're available. These updates include new stock Android features, security updates, kernel updates, driver updates, radio updates, etc. Essentially, updates to everything that runs the phone.
Everything else = anywhere from 2-18 months, or never.
Wikipedia, I know: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history#Ice_Cream_Sandwich_4.0.x
Otherwise, to the OP, my previous recommendation still stands. Which device is best for you is something only you can decide, not someone else.
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Why you are so excited about early updates? What updates Nexus got first than others which would be worth mentioning? Except the ICS itself?
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There haven't been any major updates. The nexus will get 4.1 and 5.0 before every other phone.
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JaiaV said:
Galaxy Nexus (GSM) = Android updates as soon as they're available. These updates include new stock Android features, security updates, kernel updates, driver updates, radio updates, etc. Essentially, updates to everything that runs the phone.
Everything else = anywhere from 2-18 months, or never.
Wikipedia, I know: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history#Ice_Cream_Sandwich_4.0.x
Otherwise, to the OP, my previous recommendation still stands. Which device is best for you is something only you can decide, not someone else.
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What's right. But I will repeat my question: list me the updates Nexus got first
None so far.
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I love my GNEX. But if I had a chance to swap for an S3 and pay $100 on top, I would.
Hardware is better, community will be big, and the phone is much smoother and overall a lot faster in every way that I can think of.
We Canadians will be getting the 2GB RAM version in a couple weeks. I jumping on it as soon as it comes out.
And I will be keeping the GNEX since it is a very good phone still, even by the end of the year, it will still be a very good phone.
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What's right. But I will repeat my question: list me the updates Nexus got first
None so far.
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Because there hasn't been any yet. You're using a technicality. When Google finishes the next major update, it will be first on nexus phones. Besides nexus isn't about fast updates, its about having fully open kernel and rom code. That's the point. You'll never get code for touchwiz or sense framework.
bat0nas said:
What's right. But I will repeat my question: list me the updates Nexus got first
None so far.
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4.0.1
4.0.2
4.0.3
4.0.4
And every update for the foreseeable future. Just because there haven't been any MAJOR updates (AKA, Jelly Bean or w/e it will end up being) doesn't mean it hasn't gotten every single Android update before every non-Nexus device on the market. It hasn't gotten that update yet because that update doesn't exist yet. Even so, it will get that update at least 2-∞ months before anything else, except perhaps the Nexus S or the next Nexus device(s). Most Android phones that are coming out with 4.0 are coming out with 4.0.2 or 4.0.3; and although the updates since 4.0.1 have been small, there have been several bug fixes and new small features in every update since. Take, for example, 2.3.4 which enabled video chat on Google Voice. If you didn't (or still don't) have 2.3.4 or newer, you couldn't use it. It just didn't exist as far as your phone was concerned. 4.0.3 made several improvements to ICS in general, including but not limited to graphics improvements, new APIs, new and improved camera functions, bug fixes and accessibility improvements. Not to mention that the updates and Android itself are built with this phone as the hardware reference point and more or less designed from the ground up with this phone in mind. Android 4.0.1 was released October 19, 2011 and it still only makes up 7% of Android handsets 8 months later. If Google continues releasing major Android updates in November/December, that means there are only 5-6 months left for ICS to be current, and it's easily possible we'll see more updates until then that will never appear on other phones.
Take the T-Mobile Galaxy S II for example. That phone was released 12 October 2011, a week before 4.0.1 was released. It received an update from 2.3.5 (released July 25, 2011) to 2.3.6 (released September 2, 2011) just a week or so ago. It will be finally receiving 4.0.x (IIRC the worldwide version currently has 4.0.3, which it received March 13, 3 months after the Nexus) on June 11th according to the press releases the past few days. This is actually one of the better examples of a non-Nexus device getting an update.
This whole 'argument' is ridiculous and is either trolling or an attempt to derail the thread or both. Or not, it's hard to tell sometimes. Either way, it will always be the phone that makes you happiest that is best for you. I'm done.
for another 50 Euro, go for it GS3 is way better than GNexus
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This is the Galaxy Nexus forum. Of course no one here will say they would take the S³.
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You would be wrong.
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I would get the s3 and give it some Nova launcher love. That should run like a boss!
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tonker83 said:
You would be wrong.
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Right? There was a thread just like this not two days ago and everyone was bashing the SGSIII. Then I say something like that and everyone loves it. Go figure haha.
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I love the look of the s3 but ive falling in love with my gn
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That's a serious argument not to love the S3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7e9ebi41Wc
After screen is broken - it just doesn't work anymore What a shame Samsung..
PS: Me.. I love my GN. But if I could, I would switch to S3. S3 is just a bit better.
PS2: Is it possible to have another launcher (if I don't like Touch Wiz) on S3? Like completely disable TouchWiz and install Apex or any other?
So is there any official word of Nexus phones coming out for T-Mobile? And if so, which would be a better investment: GS3 or Nexus?
Why do you need a T-Mobile Nexus when you can get an unlocked Nexus from the play store?
I personally don't like the Nexus due to the lack of MicroSD slot, but Nexus phones are always the first to get the latest version of Android.
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Why do you need a T-Mobile Nexus when you can get an unlocked Nexus from the play store?
I personally don't like the Nexus due to the lack of MicroSD slot, but Nexus phones are always the first to get the latest version of Android.
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sorry im a noob, but what do you mean you can get an unlocked Nexus from the play store?
the nexus physically looks nicer i think lol. but why do they always get the latest versions first instead of the mass produced Galaxy series phones? i dont understand why JellyBean's first release isn't available even on the SGS3
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sorry im a noob, but what do you mean you can get an unlocked Nexus from the play store?
the nexus physically looks nicer i think lol. but why do they always get the latest versions first instead of the mass produced Galaxy series phones? i dont understand why JellyBean's first release isn't available even on the SGS3
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Google play store sells the nexus. Its Google's phone so of course it'll get the first dip of all the new updates
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The Galaxy Nexus is pentaband and works with both AT&T and T-Mobile 3G/4G (HSPA+, not LTE) in the US, and in most countries. It's $349 before tax: https://play.google.com/store/devic...XZpY2VzX1VTX18xX3Byb21vXzEzNDA1MTg5NjUwMzYiXQ..
Seeing that the galaxy nexus was just ban from the USA due to a court ruling on Apple setting the Samsung infringes some of its patents, i don't see this happening in a long time. If you want a galaxy nexus i suggest you buy now.
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I know we all wish the Nexus will be supported for many years to come but being realistic about it, when do you think Google will drop support for the Galaxy Nexus?
This is a relatively powerful device so it should have official updates for at least until the end of 2013, right?
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I know we all wish the Nexus will be supported for many years to come but being realistic about it, when do you think Google will drop support for the Galaxy Nexus?
This is a relatively powerful device so it should have official updates for at least until the end of 2013, right?
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Yh it started on 4.x so it should last at least 2 major versions more upto 6.x.
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Yh it started on 4.x so it should last at least 2 major versions more upto 6.x.
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Realistically, I would say 5.x will be the last.
However, unlike Apple, who wants you to keep buying devices, Google just wants you to keep using the software, so it would be dumb of them to stop supporting Nexus phones after 2 years.
I voted 5.x, it just depends on how many incremental updates there are.
Nexus One released with 2.1
Nexus S released with 2.3
Galaxy Nexus released with 4.0
So for all we know, the next Nexus phone could be Android 4.2, 4.3, etc.
The one after that could be 4.4, 4.5, etc.
Just depends on how long they stretch out the versions.
And we all know each version most likely will branch out within, like 4.1.2, etc. so nobody really can probably give a good guess.
Although since dual core by no means is slacking in hardware for most apps, etc. compared to the N1 and Nexus S with single cores.
I don't see the GNex dropping off the radar for at least 2-3 years, no matter what.
I think it will hang in the top of phones for update for three years at least.it has good hardware and it was the first phone to recieve jellybean,and it will be the first or at least second,if google releases a new nexus,to recieve a next android update.look at the nexus s,it is single core,a bit old-ish,and it recieved jellybean update second.
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this is why owning a nexus is awesome...
No getting dropped by a company with no support.
I'm only buying nexus phones from this point out
crixley said:
this is why owning a nexus is awesome...
No getting dropped by a company with no support.
I'm only buying nexus phones from this point out
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I don't see the Nexus One having Android 4.0 though, and it can easily support it.
Let's hope Google doesn't do the same with the Galaxy Nexus and drop support when 5.x comes out.
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I don't see the Nexus One having Android 4.0 though, and it can easily support it.
Let's hope Google doesn't do the same with the Galaxy Nexus and drop support when 5.x comes out.
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Nexus one is a old phone,and it could run 4.0 easly,but google focused their work on newer phones.
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I don't see the Nexus One having Android 4.0 though, and it can easily support it.
Let's hope Google doesn't do the same with the Galaxy Nexus and drop support when 5.x comes out.
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if anything nexus s would be dropped first.
there are tons of roms for nexus one still anyway, I'm not concerned
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Nexus one is a old phone,and it could run 4.0 easly,but google focused their work on newer phones.
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Yes, but why not support a phone for at least 2 more major versions considering that Google's goal is to have people use the software that connects them to Google services? It doesn't matter that the phone is 2 years old, as long as the software keeps working on it and connects people to the cloud or whatnot.
The Nexus One was always stuck in the 2.x version of Android. This makes no sense considering their gameplan.
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Yes, but why not support a phone for at least 2 more major versions considering that Google's goal is to have people use the software that connects them to Google services? It doesn't matter that the phone is 2 years old, as long as the software keeps working on it and connects people to the cloud or whatnot.
The Nexus One was always stuck in the 2.x version of Android. This makes no sense considering their gameplan.
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nexus phones will have custom roms until you wear the phone out, as unlike normal phones you don'tneed to wait for drivers and source to be released.
go look at the dev section for nexus one, there are tons of jellybean Roms.
I don't get your concern
In December they will probably stop supporting the Nexus S and the Galaxy Nexus will get the next update.
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Nexus one is a old phone,and it could run 4.0 easly,but google focused their work on newer phones.
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nexus one uses a QSD8250 chip with adreno 200 , it has also limited (small) /system and /data partitions so u have to use custom hboots and data2sd methods.. i don't see how either ICS or JB can run easily, they run, but they are full of issues..
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nexus phones will have custom roms until you wear the phone out, as unlike normal phones you don'tneed to wait for drivers and source to be released.
go look at the dev section for nexus one, there are tons of jellybean Roms.
I don't get your concern
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Yeah, and they're problematic.
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Yeah, and they're problematic.
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S it's Google's fault technology progressed?
crixley said:
S it's Google's fault technology progressed?
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It's Google's fault they didn't make sure a phone they put their name on get updates past one major version.
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CADude said:
It's Google's fault they didn't make sure a phone they put their name on get updates past one major version.
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didn't it go from eclair to gb?
technology progressed a lot not you can do there...
Quit whining
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didn't it go from eclair to gb?
technology progressed a lot not you can do there...
Quit whining
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Not good enough. Should have gone from 2.x to 4.x
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I assume that the Nexus One was dropped because it has just 256MB RAM. Judging from how much RAM Android 4 eats up on my Galaxy Nexus, it would require some serious modifications to trim down the RAM usage.
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I assume that the Nexus One was dropped because it has just 256MB RAM. Judging from how much RAM Android 4 eats up on my Galaxy Nexus, it would require some serious modifications to trim down the RAM usage.
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This is true.
they said they had to do loads of ram mods to get it to work smoothly on the nexus s with 512mb ram
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Hi all,
I'm new to this forum so hope I'm not repeating too many older threads.
I was looking for an Android device I could use as a media player and while my Galaxy Player 5 has been okay, I really would like something with the latest software updates directly from Google. Unfortunately, besides the Nexus One, no other Nexus device has a microSD slot so I need ~32gb storage and something more portable than the Nexus 7...thus, I'm left with the 32GB Verizon version. As I don't live in the US, I thought I could just get a bad ESN one off eBay but I had a few questions first:
1.) Besides the cellular radio, will a bad ESN version of the phone still function as normal?
2.) Does it have a SIM slot/support GSM frequencies? If so, does a bad ESN mean it won't work with Verizon or not at all? Just good to know for future reference, I suppose.
3.) Will this version of the Galaxy Nexus still receive updates directly from Google or is it one of those odd ones that has carrier limitations? If not, how healthy is the dev community for this version of the phone?
I think that's it. Thank you for any help you can offer!
It'll function.
No, it doesn't support GSM.
It gets updates from Verizon.
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martonikaj said:
It'll function.
No, it doesn't support GSM.
It gets updates from Verizon.
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Wow, that was a fast reply! Thanks for clearing that up.
Also, apologies to the forum admins. Just read the first thread about posting questions in here. Duly noted!
I recommend you get the gsm one, and a 32gb thumb drive.
Will the next nexus have a longer screen?
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I recommend you get the gsm one, and a 32gb thumb drive.
Will the next nexus have a longer screen?
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The next nexus, the lg nexus 4, has a 4.7" screen compared to the Galaxy Nexus's 4.65"
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I recommend you get the gsm one, and a 32gb thumb drive.
Will the next nexus have a longer screen?
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its slightly wider. thats it.
martonikaj said:
It'll function.
No, it doesn't support GSM.
It gets updates from Verizon.
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Almost correct. The updates for Toro are actually pushed by Google.
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najaboy said:
Almost correct. The updates for Toro are actually pushed by Google.
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With the control and consent of Verizon. Google isn't allowed to push an update independently.
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With the control and consent of Verizon. Google isn't allowed to push an update independently.
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Verizon only requires that Google does extensive QA before release and provides a report on said testing.
The OTAs come directly from Google. Verizon does not touch them.
Note: Previous delays in updates were not due to Verizon's requirements but rather their ****ty hybrid CDMA/LTE network issues. Not to mention, Qualcomm is really anal about Google releasing open source CDMA binaries.
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Smokeey said:
Verizon only requires that Google does extensive QA before release and provides a report on said testing.
The OTAs come directly from Google. Verizon does not touch them.
Note: Previous delays in updates were not due to Verizon's requirements but rather their ****ty hybrid CDMA/LTE network issues. Not to mention, Qualcomm is really anal about Google releasing open source CDMA binaries.
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Correction.
The binaries are not open source. Neither are the GSM ones.