First, let me say up front I do not regret giving up my iPhone for the SGN2. I love this phone!
But it is not perfect. Some of my annoyances may very well be things about Android I just haven't learned yet. If that's the case, please educate me! Others are probably design or feature choices. If you know of a workaround, please share it.
1. No consistent, simple way to jump to the top of a list, page, or screen. I enabled the double-tap on the top of the phone (Settings | System | Motion | Double-tap to top) but that only works in a very few places. With the iPhone, tapping the top edge of the display provided a consistent solution.
2. I expected with the large display and high resolution to have more screen real estate on which information would be displayed. Instead all the display items (buttons, text boxes, etc.) are larger and the "Tiny" font isn't really. Sometimes I feel like I bought a remedial phone, kind of like the big print version of Readers Digest.
3. Along the same lines, why is it I can't find widgets that I can resize smaller in order to fit more information on my home screen?
4. Inflated ratings on the apps in the Play Store. Are there any 2-star rated apps? I've tried some 3- and 4-star rated apps that I would have rated no higher than 2-stars. But I have to say there certainly aren't any over-priced apps that I have run across.
5. There are Android ports or equivalents to almost all the apps I used regularly on my iPhone, but I'm sad I haven't found substitutes for some. I used Guitar Toolkit every day (for both guitar & ukulele). Thanks to forums I have found some lesser substitutes, but why do they all use midi sounds instead of actual samples of guitar & uke strings? I haven't found a substitute yet for iTunes but am still looking. And I have just begun my search for an equivalent to Camera+.
I really am fond of this phone, annoyances and all. To me, this is what the Apple Newton (anyone remember that?) would have been if Apple (Steve Jobs, actually) hadn't dropped the product after 2-3 years. I loved my Newtons which has caused me to form a strong emotional bond to this phone.
Anyone have their own annoyances--or solutions for mine?
Doug
1. There might be some application for this. Possibly. I'm not entirely sure. Android however, has complete flick scrolling. All you have to do is give it sufficient momentum, and you can fly to the top or bottom no problem. But I guess that isn't a solution really.
2 & 3. There isn't really an answer for this yet. It's bothering a lot of people. Once we get AOSP, we will hopefully get a port of ParanoidAndroid. Which will fix your issue. You can always turn down the LCD density in the build prop. But doing so will break most applications. You should be safe with setting it to 240.
4. The variety of Android phones is immense. And as such, people moving from an older model and installing the applications they are familiar with will notice an increase in performance from that application. People aren't looking at the quality of the application, but at how it affects them and their experience with it. Which is the only explanation for why Advanced Task Killer is still popular. Ignorance.
5. That happens. Some you won't find something that lives up to the iOS equivalent. Yet I've found applications that are on Android that are incredible and don't have a good iOS equivalent. Namely, PicsArt.
I don't like that the headphone jack is on the top.
And I really liked the backing and sides on the Galaxy Nexus, which I switched from to this phone. Really plasticky, not that I'm complaining. I just really enjoyed the feel of the Galaxy Nexus
I'm glad you like the phone. Be wary though, there are plenty of people on this site with an extreme hate for Apple and it's products. Though this particular forum is really well behaved, and I've only met nice people thus far. I haven't seen people attack each other for their beliefs or past yet. Knock on wood. Haha hope that helps, even though I only offered one solution to your issues.
DougNC said:
First, let me say up front I do not regret giving up my iPhone for the SGN2. I love this phone!
But it is not perfect. Some of my annoyances may very well be things about Android I just haven't learned yet. If that's the case, please educate me! Others are probably design or feature choices. If you know of a workaround, please share it.
1. No consistent, simple way to jump to the top of a list, page, or screen. I enabled the double-tap on the top of the phone (Settings | System | Motion | Double-tap to top) but that only works in a very few places. With the iPhone, tapping the top edge of the display provided a consistent solution.
2. I expected with the large display and high resolution to have more screen real estate on which information would be displayed. Instead all the display items (buttons, text boxes, etc.) are larger and the "Tiny" font isn't really. Sometimes I feel like I bought a remedial phone, kind of like the big print version of Readers Digest.
3. Along the same lines, why is it I can't find widgets that I can resize smaller in order to fit more information on my home screen?
4. Inflated ratings on the apps in the Play Store. Are there any 2-star rated apps? I've tried some 3- and 4-star rated apps that I would have rated no higher than 2-stars. But I have to say there certainly aren't any over-priced apps that I have run across.
5. There are Android ports or equivalents to almost all the apps I used regularly on my iPhone, but I'm sad I haven't found substitutes for some. I used Guitar Toolkit every day (for both guitar & ukulele). Thanks to forums I have found some lesser substitutes, but why do they all use midi sounds instead of actual samples of guitar & uke strings? I haven't found a substitute yet for iTunes but am still looking. And I have just begun my search for an equivalent to Camera+.
I really am fond of this phone, annoyances and all. To me, this is what the Apple Newton (anyone remember that?) would have been if Apple (Steve Jobs, actually) hadn't dropped the product after 2-3 years. I loved my Newtons which has caused me to form a strong emotional bond to this phone.
Anyone have their own annoyances--or solutions for mine?
Doug
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Well soumds like you would like the iphone 5
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Try a different launcher like Nova or Holo. This will at least fix your issue with not being able to resize widgets, and will also give you a lot more homescreen real estate.
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Well soumds like you would like the iphone 5
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Neither the iPhone 5 nor the iPad Mini measured up to what I was reading about in the Android world. And there was no turning back once I saw the specs and video reviews of the SGN2!
I may be late to the party but I've got my dancing shoes on now!
Doug
Yeah pressing the top is one of the most wanted features for me, at least when you flicker you finger faster then normal it goes up quicker or down so the helps in the browser. About the screen real state is really annoying to have only 4 apps down and 4 to the side I rooted my device mostly to help someone and put a mod for the screen, is better now
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The buttons being big is annoying to me too but it is what it is, I don't play guitar so idk about the rest, I tried the new iphone 5 love the design but too small, and too limited so I stay with Android this time around and love it, welcome to the group be aware that we have a lot annoying fan boys around :/
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Looks nice. But kinda odd (and not sure I like it) to have a speaker slide out like that.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/24/exclusive-htcs-windows-phone-7-equipped-t8788-breaks-cover-for/
Yep looks good. Hope all the new HTC Codename phones fall under similar looks/features.
A comment in the engadget forum has 1 guy say he personally knows the phone slides both ways. Hmm.
If it does I Just hope its a nice mechanical/spring slide action that keeps the phone solid when your not sliding it around.
Overall though it would be a bit bigger version of my TP2 which I love.
I like the front facing speaker. Lately I've been playing more Scumm games (Broken Sword 2 atm) on my phone, and sometimes when there's alot of ambient noise, I have to flip my phone around to really hear what's being said without listening intently or put my headphones on. So this would actually be good for gaming, if it slid out the rest of the way to show a game pad I'll be breaking contract .
I'm not too excited about the slide-out speaker feature. As long as a phone has a 3.5mm jack and a decently loud speaker phone, I'm happy. I wouldn't want to go too crazy over builtin speakers.
say hate to state the obvious but this is implementation of the new htc slider mechanism htc patented recently
not bad
I say slide it out the other way to reveal a full qwerty and this thing would be a beast. But sadly it's just a speaker.
This phone DOES NOT slide both ways... for a fact. It slides only that way (as shown in the picture) and only that far... It also has a kickstand that comes out so that when you stand the phone up the speaker is at the top.
All metal (black metal) very heavy and solid feeling... Also, screen size looked to be about 4-4.1"
Saw it/played with it on Sunday night
lets hope for all hd2 owners that this phone has the same hardware specs as the hd2 (easier to port wp7 on hd2 )
and let us all non hd2 owners hope it has a dual core and loads of ram/rom usb3 ,64GB build in ssd .
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This phone DOES NOT slide both ways... for a fact. It slides only that way (as shown in the picture) and only that far... It also has a kickstand that comes out so that when you stand the phone up the speaker is at the top.
All metal (black metal) very heavy and solid feeling... Also, screen size looked to be about 4-4.1"
Saw it/played with it on Sunday night
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so a media centric phone? how is the slider mechanism and wp7 for that matter. Are these builds still naked without att/htc proprietary software I'm quite curious
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so a media centric phone? how is the slider mechanism and wp7 for that matter. Are these builds still naked without att/htc proprietary software I'm quite curious
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That's one thing that's great. The manufacturer and carrier aren't allowed to bog the phones down with crap.
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That's one thing that's great. The manufacturer and carrier aren't allowed to bog the phones down with crap.
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has MS stated that?
theomni said:
has MS stated that?
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I believe MS mandated that only 6 custom vendor apps can be sent out with the phone, and anything they put on has to be uninstallable.
gom99 said:
I believe MS mandated that only 6 custom vendor apps can be sent out with the phone, and anything they put on has to be uninstallable.
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Finally...
Now I wish MS would do things to stop being as annoying too.
Btw, I looked over the internet. I couldn't find it. Would you happen to have the link or an official statement from MS stating that?
Meh, to hell with extra bulk from speaker I don't use for anything but ringing.
Never thought I'd say this, but my next phone will most probably not be from HTC. This is such a useless gimmick.
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Finally...
Now I wish MS would do things to stop being as annoying too.
Btw, I looked over the internet. I couldn't find it. Would you happen to have the link or an official statement from MS stating that?
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I don't have the direct link but it was originally posted by Da_G on this forum.
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Meh, to hell with extra bulk from speaker I don't use for anything but ringing.
Never thought I'd say this, but my next phone will most probably not be from HTC. This is such a useless gimmick.
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I mean how else do you think OEMs can differentiate themselves?
They can't do anything to the system, so expect to see a lot of these gimmicks.
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I mean how else do you think OEMs can differentiate themselves?
They can't do anything to the system, so expect to see a lot of these gimmicks.
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They can add apps/hubs.
I know many will disagree with this but we have to go off the basis that the built-in functions of WP7 are much better than anything an OEM could do. We shouldn't want/allow them to change it just for the sake of differentiation. It's my impression (not having used any of them for any length of time) that this is true on Android for all with the possible exception of HTC Sense; even then many would say the stock Android UI is just fine. HTC Sense, espeically for WinMo, is horribly written. I think it's wise for us to let the software company do the software and the hardware company do the hardware.
So even though they can't modify for the sake of modifying, there's a good bit of opportunity for them to add on. HTC will be doing some sort of 'Sense' for WP7 which will (just guessing) probably be in the form of a hub with several apps such as weather, stocks, footprints, etc. Carriers will have branding opportunities as well (Telstra showed off theirs recently).
But this all still ignoring the question of do users really care? I have never once seen the home screen addons become a deciding factor in what phone a user purchases (both in 'real life' and on a non-phone forum where phones often come up that I'm on). It's always just:
1. carrier
2. hardware features (size, keyboard, screen being the main ones)
3. Price
It really seems like wasted money on the part of the OEMs.
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I mean how else do you think OEMs can differentiate themselves?
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How about making great devices without this niche teenager crap?
for a pop out speaker, I would have high expectations for the sound on that. It better be very impressive and with plenty of bass.....
RustyGrom said:
Looks nice. But kinda odd (and not sure I like it) to have a speaker slide out like that.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/24/exclusive-htcs-windows-phone-7-equipped-t8788-breaks-cover-for/
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well to tell you the truth, this isn't the first time that we are seeing the device with speaker slideout. For instance, Samsung mp3 players had this. they were k5 and s5. It wasn't a really hit for somereason but yea on the phone, this is the first time ever. But i do like the formfactor but i am not sure about sliding speaker. I dont listen to musics with my phone, so it won't be necessary for me. Also i would like to see how the battery performs when the slide is out to the side. hmmm... it should be great for speaker call and gps sysem!
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/introducing-cid
Preface:
“Why the change in Mascot? We loved Andy Bugdroid!”
A lot of people love Andy, our former skateboarding mascot. This was clearly evident with the polarized reviews to our announcement of selecting Caio’s prototype. We love Andy too, he has served us faithfully for close to 3 years now. However, he increasingly became a symbol of what CyanogenMod was when Steve (Cyanogen) started it, a ‘playful spin’ on AOSP, and reflective of our immaturity as a project.
We believe we’re more than just “stock Android for a zillion devices”, and we felt the need for a distinct identity; a change was needed.
This change would allow us to have a unique representative, one not reliant on Google’s mascot creation. Contrary to popular belief, both Andy and his penchant for skateboarding were Google’s design – we added the color and arrow under Creative Commons licensing, but it’s still a very slight variation of Google’s own bugdroid, as seen here. As much as we’d like to say it was ‘original’ it really wasn’t; its iconic status was achieved through the merits of CyanogenMod and our community of contributors, not as an epicly designed mascot.
This new mascot will be unique for CyanogenMod and provide an identity and attitude by which the project can continue to develop – a mature Android OS.
Inspiration for design:
We’ll let Caio speak for himself on this one:
“When I first started working on the new mascot I had this vision of making something that could also work as a polished and modern logo. I came up with two humanoid figures whose bodies took inspiration from heroes action figures and resembles the original Android robot. For the heads I started with two ideas: a power socket and a simplistic round head. I wanted CM’s own robot to feel like an evolution of what we had before, giving it its unique look – and it’s a huge challenge to try to evolve something people know and love.
The idea here was to create something cute (people love cute), modern and extremely flexible. Something simple yet iconic; so we could do thousands of different things with it. I wanted the mascot to look great everywhere in every size and color.
For colors I decided to keep the most obvious choice, which was keeping the cyan and grey from our Andy.”
Modifications:
As you can see, compared to the prototypes selected, some modifications have been made. Cid has ‘grown up’ from the child like form of the original design. Additionally, his head has taken traits from both prototypes, not quite a square block and not quite perfectly round.
While the wrench-like hands were unique, we felt trying to pitch them as ‘tweaking Android’ was a stretch, and went with the more subtle rounded hands. This allows for a cleaner look in many different forms, colors and applications.
Cid’s eyes were made wider, to allow for expressions to be conveyed, and a mouth was added to enhance this capability. The ears were added as an homage to the much loved Andy.
Caio’s opinion of the changes:
“When reviewing the design I felt the need for some distinctive features and we decided to give him some attitude and the ability to convey different emotions. Cid has big eyes and his default form rocks a challenging look — something the CM community is all about.”
And we think it looks great!
Cid (Pronounced: /si:d/):
When we started brainstorming names we wanted to pick something short, simple and fitting for the new mascot. Obviously trying to stray away from the *droid or *Andy type names we decided to pay homage to D.A.R.Y.L., B.O.B Maximillion or V.I.N.Cent and create a name that could also be an acronym.
We chose C.I.D. which is short for Cyanogenmod ID, the common thread that all CyanogenMod users share; each user’s unique place in our community.
Some of you may also be familiar with the concept of the “id”, the instinctual driving force behind our personalities. It seemed fitting, that this chaotic force and need for immediate gratification, was incorporated into the image of a OS which strives to be on the bleeding edge of Android development.
Thus C.I.D became Cid.
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I like it. I hope one day we see a phone shipped from a factory with CM as the stock ROM
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I like it too. Anybody want to start making some wallpapers with these?
I dig it; I may be a "mature" owner, but I'm glad they kept the skateboard. Reminds me that my skateboard has been gathering dust in the basement, time to hit the skate park. I intend to do a kick flip to hurricane grind while flashing the latest nightly.
I didn't like the old one, and I don't like the new one either. The first thing I do when I flash a Cyanogenmod ROM is change the boot animation.
Also, the skateboard is a throwback of the old Android boot screen. I remember seeing it on the G1.
nah, not sure if i like it :-/. i think it would be better if they had kept the android robot. still great rom
Honestly I'm still partial to the duck lol.
I love it
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It looks creepy and weird to me, feels like they're now projecting a 'bad child' image or something, like Bart Simpson, I don't know.
I prefer the old logo since it was simple, easily identifiable, and was just plain fun to watch.
Oh wells, I still reboot in public places so people see my angry pink unicorn.
It's evil, and not in a good sense, when smiling.
I'm struggling to see why so many people are so upset about the change. Other than its a change.
Checkout the G+ post on the subject, it is depressing to see a group of people doing such amazing work, for free, to then have so much -ve babble written about something as unimportant as this. There are even people saying they will have to replace their boot animations - really - the new boot animation doesn't even exist yet!?
I'm not sure how long I've spent looking at old Andy - but it ain't long. He pops up at boot and then goes away till I reboot my phone again. So at most once a day with each nightly. The bottom line is the ROM is amazing, and will continue to be so regardless of what the mascot is.
I don't really mind what the mascot is - Cid looks cool, so does Andy - the ROM that they represent is even better though.
No one is saying anything negative about the ROM itself, the topic of discussion is the mascot change.
Everyone still loves the ROM, it's just the Mascot seems difficult to adapt too. It doesn't look friendly or inviting at all, it's just people identify to images, and with the new image it seems cold, evil, weird.
Andy was pleasantly plump, waving at you, on a skateboard, and made sure everything in your phone ran perfectly smooth. Cid feels like he might slit your throat when your sleeping if you're not careful.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgIrXKpv2gw
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http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/introducing-cid
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Creepy Image Droid. I am going to hide under my bed now.
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it kinda gives me the creeps.
I imagine it thinking in a sinister voice "yeah sure flash me I promise you don't get stuck in a bootloop YUHAHAHAHAHA"
I actually like it. People find negatives in everything smh.
All this "Doesn't reflect maturity" **** is pathetic.
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Looks too much like a power ranger.
People getting butthurt because people are getting butthurt over the the new logo...
butthurtception.
Anyway, I dont care for it ether. Dont really care ether. Im gonna use the same boot ani ive always used. It takes 60seconds to place the zip from my sdcard to the media folder.
At least it is not some pink animal.
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I like it too. Anybody want to start making some wallpapers with these?
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I agree!!!
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They have now exporting the remote control feature to ios and android......., wth besides Zune they are taking the competitive advantage from WP. At least charge other platforms for the service.. http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/13/...or-iphone-brings-direct-remote-android-joins/
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They have now exporting the remote control feature to ios and android......., wth besides Zune they are taking the competitive advantage from WP. At least charge other platforms for the service.. http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/13/...or-iphone-brings-direct-remote-android-joins/
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I know; just saw that and I was like what the It's like they are making better or equal products for Android and iOS but I don't see iOS, Android and anyone else for that matter, making apps for Windows Phone. Like for exsample; I heard a rumor that with Connector for Mac you can actually sync with Outlook via USB but not with Windows/Windows Phone
I am just sitting here like why, I cannot show my friends anything I can do on my phone besides live tiles, now that FB is being integrated in iOS.
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Software company doing software, doesnt seem odd to me. Actually smart.
Great app btw
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While its understandable, its not evn a good effort. The App wont even start on my gtab 10.1, telling me the app would not work well on my device...
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Maybe your screen is too big, the app is great. Everything works even the Avatar animations.
Funny thing is, its implemented better than the WP7 version. Quck access to messages, and the dots at the bottom letting you know which screen you're on. If it stayed logged in that would be awesome, and a widget would make me replace Spark 360.
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You are all looking at it wrong:
The iPhone and Android users are just beta testers...
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Maybe your screen is too big, the app is great. Everything works even the Avatar animations.
Funny thing is, its implemented better than the WP7 version. Quck access to messages, and the dots at the bottom letting you know which screen you're on. If it stayed logged in that would be awesome, and a widget would make me replace Spark 360.
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Since I can not use the app despite google play saying it's compatible with my device (talk about bad user experience on android here... ) I can not compare it directly, but on WP7 I also have quick access to messages and I do not need dots to see what screen I am on... I can see that by looking at my screen
EDIT: wait. Regarding the messages, I am mixing this up with the games hub. Not that i have used the xbox live companion app too often, though. I never found it useful in the first place.
EDIT2: No, wait again. Is this app like the games hub or like the xbox live companion app?
As I also understand that Microsoft is a software company, they have the right to develop software on other platforms. But this affects their own products marketshare (wp). If people are used to the system their using and since ms apps are available across devices, why switch? The issue today isn't about how many their apps in store, or how an app is exclusive to this platform, but the OS experience (and also money money money). Take the iOS 6 example, not so wow-ing eh? People might eventually switch to another platform to have a different experience, but I know someone will counter-attack this statement so I'll say it now: People don't like change. People do from time to time. Think about it, in general most people get sick of doing the daily routine, in fact all of us do. That's why we choose to have hobbies or do something for a change to experience something totally different from the daily routine.
Secondly, its a persons decision. They like iOS, fine. Android, fine. Just as long as they brag about this and complain about that, its not like everyone cares about your device.
Also keep in mind that Xbox Music may also be available to these devices. They may have showed it off at E3 that it was running on a lumia 800 or a windows tablet, but you just never know.
In windows phone, the games hub is the whole Xbox Live app available in iOS and Android. The Xbox Companion app is only available for windows phone and iOS atm.
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Funny thing is, its implemented better than the WP7 version. Quck access to messages, and the dots at the bottom letting you know which screen you're on. If it stayed logged in that would be awesome, and a widget would make me replace Spark 360.
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That's because windows phone's metro UI is panoramic/pivot, the whole hub/app overlaps the screen, unlike iOS and android which an app is only limited to use the available screen resolution, unless it is programmed to.
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You are all looking at it wrong:
The iPhone and Android users are just beta testers...
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I believe the app/functionality was first available on WP7. So who is a beta tester?
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Coming from a household (and a workplace) where each 'user' has picked the PC / Tablet / Phone / Device of their choice, integration of all of them is VERY important, and reaffirms my personal commitment to the Win platform. They're thinking of my needs, not their domination of the market.
Seriously, watch all the google-using people complain about what they can do better on their google devices. Why wouldn't the additional exposure on 'foreign' OS devices for an MS app make you think about switching to the platform where the app came from?
In the case of the next generation, this just makes sense. Who'd want a centralized device in your living room that only connected with less than half the devices you already own? That critical piece (XBox) needs to be connected everywhere and to everything before users can even think of replacing existing devices. This is critical for success in the already installed base of devices out there.
People would be unimpressed if they had this 'cool feature' that let them control / stream / et. al.: but only if you buy all new devices. Wow, that would blow chucks pretty fast.
It's analogous to Office products - who'd buy into it if it ONLY worked with a small subset of devices / OS'es? It simply MUST be ubiquitous to take it seriously.
Correct, people need to understand the Xbox is a entirely different beast then petty cell phones. Microsoft makes more money off of Xbox, hardware and software.
Something better to focus on, Skype
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I just got the Note 2 yesterday, upgraded from S3. I'm very happy with the phone, but the resolution is a disappointment.
From an article comparing the two:
The measurement of the display for the Galaxy S3 is a length of 136.6mm, width of 70.6mm, and a depth of 8.6mm. The screen size is measured in 4.8-inches with a pixel resolution of 1,280x720 with a 306 pixels per inch (ppi). The Galaxy Note 2 is measured with a longer length of 151.1mm, 80.5 width, and a depth of 9.4mm. The screen is measured at a larger 5.5 inches, but the same pixel resolution and a lower ppi of 267.
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Here's what it feels like: I am used to using a 24" monitor, 1080p. I once got to use a 27" monitor that was the same resolution. I quickly became aware that it really wasn't beneficial. I couldn't put more apps on there, things were just bigger.
So, in the case of this phone, I still see the same amount of App Icons on the desktop (4 across, 5 down). I still see the same amount of twitter posts.
Most of you are going to point out the DPI change/fix. Well, I've been there and done that, and have been dissapointed with it. I ran it on the S2 forever. And there were apps that didn't quite work; the market was horrible. After a month I switched it off, cleared the market data, and realized I had many updates that wouldn't get put on with the right dpi. I've seen issues in the DPI thread.
Not much I can do about it, just wanted to put this out there. I think they could of given us better resolution on this phone. Maybe the Note 3.
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I just got the Note 2 yesterday, upgraded from S3. I'm very happy with the phone, but the resolution is a disappointment.
From an article comparing the two:
Here's what it feels like: I am used to using a 24" monitor, 1080p. I once got to use a 27" monitor that was the same resolution. I quickly became aware that it really wasn't beneficial. I couldn't put more apps on there, things were just bigger.
So, in the case of this phone, I still see the same amount of App Icons on the desktop (4 across, 5 down). I still see the same amount of twitter posts.
Most of you are going to point out the DPI change/fix. Well, I've been there and done that, and have been dissapointed with it. I ran it on the S2 forever. And there were apps that didn't quite work; the market was horrible. After a month I switched it off, cleared the market data, and realized I had many updates that wouldn't get put on with the right dpi. I've seen issues in the DPI thread.
Not much I can do about it, just wanted to put this out there. I think they could of given us better resolution on this phone. Maybe the Note 3.
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Do this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1993530
you will fall in love all over again
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Most of you are going to point out the DPI change/fix. Well, I've been there and done that, and have been dissapointed with it.
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Do this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1993530
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LOL.
Anyway, yes, I agree, the Note 2 should have had at least the same resolution as the Note 1 (not a downgrade!) and higher than the S3. But I'm guessing a pocket 1080 (or whatever) display would make the phone prohibitively expensive. Not to mention you risk people complaining that the text is too small - you can't please everybody. There needs to be a lot more effort put into handling text size on these devices so that various needs can be met. Everything on the Note 2 is ridiculously oversized for me still even with the font set to "Tiny".
I also miss having 5 icons across on the stock launcher from the Note 1, which is sort of a related issue.
But I still think the Note 2 is the best smartphone I've ever used, by a long shot.
that's the power of AMOLED. they always have poor resolution. this is the only real downfall to samsung devices. ):
coming from an S3 I have been happy with the screen, bump up the font size in chrome and on twitter and it's a joy to use, and videos do look amazing!
I'll take the slightly lower resolution with a non-pentile screen. Worth the tradeoff, IMO.
I think resolution is good to me. I plan on messing with dpi anyways though.
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i think you are upset at the screen not being wider like the note 1 because the new DNA has 1080p and it still shows the same amount of info a 720p screen does... i think the problem isn't the ppi it seems like u just wanted the screen to do more then show the same info but bigger with a 1080 screen u could have put more info on the screen but how small would u have to make everything to do so is the real question.... but for me i love the note and the screens ppi because its just below the ppi a human eye can see and it still IMO the best phone out period.
Just found this exdialer if you lower dpi and dont like the small stock dialer
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5tb2Rvb2h1dC5kaWFsZXIiXQ..
I am happy with the phone, let me be clear, it's fantastic.
However, it seems like there can be a sweet spot between icons/fonts too big (how I feel it is now) and too small. I am SURE there are technical limitations to this, but I would expect Samsung could figure it out. They are REALLY good at making screens with different resolutions!
At this point, nothing is changing, but let me throw out a few more things to help clarify my stance and my wish list. That's all this is at this time, a wish list.
On the S3, I was very happy with the icon & font size to screen size ratio (Is this what PPI is?). In my opinion, it is perfect. I think Samsung feels that way too, it's their flagship.
Here's how I think of it. The S3 is 70.6mm across. If each icon takes up let's say 15mm on the S3 (totally made up these numbers) it looks good. Thats 4 icons across plus space in-between them.
So, in my mind I would think that on the Note 2, they would take that same size 15mm icons, and spread it across the 80mm wide screen. That would look very good. Instead, they made the icons 18mm big, and it looks big and awkward.
As a consumer, I think this is a reasonable request. I REALLY hate to say this, but AppIe got this right on the Iphone 5. They added an extra row of icons, keeping the icons all the same size (yeah, they made a really awkward resolution for it, not defending that all. If I cared st all about the Iphone 5, I would have prefered wider & taller, not just taller). I feel they cheapened the experience of the Note 2 with the same resolution as the S3.
I will get used to it just putting my opinion out there. I have been such a Samsung Fanboy lately, but I still feel I need to point out where they could do better.
Cant please everyone. Having upgraded today from an og Evo4g, all I can say is wow.
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There was a touch wiz launcher on here but dont know if it will work with new rom or not ....it was 5 x 6
I have it let me flash and see if it works but it was on here cant find thread now though ..If it works I can put on drop box for you
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I think the icons for the apps are way too big for our note. I personally think it was better before when we could actually see more apps before scrolling.
Eh... it definitely could show more on one page like it did before. I rarely go through lists of apps except for when setting up my phone after a flash. I did end up turning my phone sideways and then it showed the apps list similar to how it did before
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This design is good for the elderly and hard to see people. Kind of like the Big Launcher.
But for me, I would like to see more on one screen.
I prefer the previews version.
Not sure if it's possible but yeah, it would be neat if someone could maybe modify it.
So far I hate the new layout. I liked it better before
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+1 many times on the previous version. When turning pages, icons seem way too big.
Someone on Google has an increased visual prescription :silly:
I don't care for it very much. Seems like a more childish version of the store, were as the previous version seemed more mature and had a nicer style to it.
I really hope this isn't what to expect for key lime pie
noted for future reference on my Note 2
I just went through every layout available with hybrid properties in Paranoid Android and I couldn't find one I don't hate.
The best looking one was actually the 360p, the others have even fewer apps per page.
What were they thinking?!
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Previous version is better ....
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I don't like it. Looks like the play store lost it edge. It's to big, to immature looking, and if it could display all my previous purchases that would be great.
I think the previous purchases are there. Just that the icons are 1000x bigger.
It's horrible for reasons mentioned. I tried it in a early release and quickly switched back to my modded version. Just look for modded versions and find one that doesn't auto update. I imagine they will become more popular soon enough. It was such a bad choice that I hope that dept or designer gets fired. What a sh!theaded move...
You'd think that they could come up with something better...
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It's horrible for reasons mentioned. I tried it in a early release and quickly switched back to my modded version. Just look for modded versions and find one that doesn't auto update. I imagine they will become more popular soon enough. It was such a bad choice that I hope that dept or designer gets fired. What a sh!theaded move...
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Or hit by a bus. It is complete and utter crap. You'd think they'd have learned from seeing Microsoft suffer with Win 8. Don't make massive UI changes that people can't opt out of. Yes I know you can access the desktop in W8, but you need Classic Shell or other stuff to get a proper start menu.
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Or hit by a bus. It is complete and utter crap. You'd think they'd have learned from seeing Microsoft suffer with Win 8. Don't make massive UI changes that people can't opt out of. Yes I know you can access the desktop in W8, but you need Classic Shell or other stuff to get a proper start menu.
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Yup... Same reason why I'm stickin with my Win7/Linux setup for a couple of more years. I was kinda excited initially but got turned off the more and more they released hints and sneak peaks for 8. I haveven considered a iMac. I helped purchase and setup one for my in-laws. Yup they're old and technologically inept lol! I wanted to sandbox them without worrying about too many viruses. Last model winxp they had (too cheap to run decent antivirus) drove me insane. My dad (graphics artist) has been preaching the praises of apple for years (way before iPod was a twinkle in Steve Job's brain) and has one also. I have to admit it is pretty nice for some things but is still too limited IMHO. Thinking about EVER owning an Apple product makes me cringe no offense cause some of em are great products just too hipster and limited in capacity.
Back to Playstore (still think the name change was stupid)... Maybe they could make it have different file views like file explore r or multiple views based on DPI a compromise next UI overhaul. I wonder sometimes if Google is making poor choices the more mature Android gets. Over simplifying things just because of the fact that a few critics claim Android is too complicated isn't a great thing. Sometimes things get more confusing and lose fuctionality in the process of simplification. Thank goodness this just a isolated case with playstore and maybe a couple of things for now. It could be way worse. Android is still the greatest mobile player around but they better continue to listen to the little guy and developers especially on the eve of Ubuntu Mobile which could take a piece of the pie.
im very happy with it they removed the dumb ass page after installing / updating apps :good:
The store seems to be going downhill ever since they renamed it from Google Market to Play Store.
it doesnt bother me. It looks much better inverted though. . I wish Google would bring back the purchased tab
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