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To admins and mods: NEW XDA PORTAL IS AWESOME!!!

Hello
I just wanted to say thank you..
The new portal looks totally awesome
Whole site's new features are very usefull and it is very good
THANKS!!!

+1. Looks much better than before. Not to sound unappreciative, but can we maybe get a slicker looking skin for the vbulletin too?

I don't know if it is just me, of the portal looks like something out of engadget.com (Overrated and super biased towards everything Apple). I really don't like it that much although it is much cleaner and simple.
Just a personal opinion.

lemonspeakers said:
I don't know if it is just me, of the portal looks like something out of engadget.com (Overrated and super biased towards everything Apple). I really don't like it that much although it is much cleaner and simple.
Just a personal opinion.
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All opinions and suggesting are welcome. So if you have ideas to improve XDA porta...let us know

well the only thing I would change is the color scheme...
I kinda like black and blue...
and maybe the logo could be different...but apart from these, the new portal is totally awesome....very informative, I like the top threads and devices panel...really nice work guys!
Maybe you can make an XDA-developers logo contest...there sure are a lot of graphic artists here (I am myself)...so everyone can contribute and we can have some challenge and fun
What do you think?

Yeah, a logo contest would be great, there are indeed many talented people here. Also the design is a bit simplistic, not bad but could be better .
But do you really think Wordpress is good for such a big site, where there eventually should be user-submission, categorization and much more? Drupal or perhaps a custom CMS seems much better suited, I think.

Glad you guys generally like it. Coming up with a design to please as many people as possible was no easy task and we went through many versions. The front page is currently in beta mode, so not everything is working or looks right.
Our next project is a redesign of the forum to correspond with the new portal. That launch is a couple of weeks (or a bit more) away.

The new interface look wicked.
Thanks for all the work in throwing this together!
Knoc.

New Portal Launches Today
Congrats XDA!!!
Great young fresh looking!!!!
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The echo system for comments makes me think of pocketnow.com
Great work guys! Tbh, the site was beginning to look ancient. Next a better forum skin

I guess with mass appeal comes mass market looks
My immediate suggestion is to lighten the main menu bar from the very dark brown to something more like the forums main menu color. It's easier on the eyes and brings the right amount of focus to it. Just like the pic attached.

I honestly don't like the look at all. It's too engadgety. I want this to be our OWN SITE! Something that includes everyone and not just Apple products.
Is it just me or doesn't the portal looks similar? Anyone?
Search bar, name font, menu links? Wow.
Maybe if we had a XDA-Developers logo contest, that'd be great. Really.
Please let us have a constest to design a better logo at least. Admins can set parameters such a colors and font size... etc...

New portal looks awesome especially compared to before! Great work....

+1 Plz dont mind i love xda so i want to be honest.... i also didnt liked the new theme or whatsoever.... it looks like a white page in which some thing is written not organised...
Plz change it and also the comment system extra that also should be changed i dont want it to be like other sites.... let xda be unique..

I think it looks great, and I also like the logo ... It's true, svetius, when tinkering with a site this huge, the # of opinions and disappointments you're going to get is huge.
Not that it matters re people's differing tastes and preferences, but for what it's worth, svetius, I'm also a UX Designer, and I think you've done a really clean job.

*BORAT* Whoa whoa whoa. How can I a get to this magical wizard portal?!

This is my 1st post, just wanted to say how useful this site is. Iv been educating myself about Android for the last 3 months, finally ordered myself a Hero today, i knew it was time to register.
1st thing I wanted to do was to say a big thanks but wasn't quite sure where to put it, thought this thread would be the most appropriate, appologies if there is an 'introductions' thread I missed.
Well im off to download all the tools i'l need for rooting and flashing roms now, hopefully my spanking new Hero will be here by Friday?
Wish me luck,... And once again, big up to all the mods and everyone who contributes to the forum.
Peace.

What software does it use? I have a Vbulletin forum and would love this kind of front page portal

ijob said:
What software does it use? I have a Vbulletin forum and would love this kind of front page portal
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Simple wordpress!

[Concept Art] HTC HD3 running WP7 & HTC Sense 3 (2010-07-31)

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This is my second HD3 Concept. I made the first one (link) in February 2010 - back then people didn't knew much about Windows Phone 7. I thought it's going to be similar to 6.5.x and that - at some point - we'll be able to flash it on our current devices.
That's why I came up with a phone running Windows Mobile 7 and which looked like a kitchen knife (and what's with that huge weather animation?! ).
The Concept got some attention and was mentioned on several websites and blogs all over the world. That's when I learned that Google Translate has no problems translating "What an ugly phone!" from Russian and Turkish to English. Although I designed it for my graphic novel which takes place in 2015, my futuristic HD3 specifications were taken seriously so I was heavily criticized for the hardware.
Now, a few months later, I present to you my latest HD3 Concept.
Since everyone would like to see different specs I've decided to give you guys a chance of writing your own. I will update the threat with realistic specifications written by someone who knows what he/she's talking about.
As you can see, my new HD3 has two Build-in Speakers on both sides of the screen (I really liked that about my previous concept), a front facing Camera, HDMI output and a Micro-USB port. There are 6 hardware buttons (Power, Volume Up and Down and 3 WP7 buttons). You can come up with the rest.
I decided to make WP7 more customizable so I skinned it with Sense 3 (do you REALLY think HTC would release a phone without Sense? I know Microsoft claims that all WP7 devices should use Metro, but Sense is HTC's trademark). Of course you could still change the wallpaper:
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Finally, before you start complaining about the hardware buttons, he's an alternative version with buttons that would give actual feedback (though I think they make the phone look ugly):
Took 15 hours to complete. Enjoy!

it looks awesome.

Looks pretty nice, good job.

Damn! Wish WP7 did look like this!

Just... Just Amazing! Need it! Well done!

Great design
Wow! awesome design! You just missed the HTC logo on top.

I was hoping someone would come through with a vision i had.
Surely yours is wayyyyyyy better than what i imagined but i said a while back
win phone 7 could look decent if it had some photoshop and glossy eyecandy icons.
Your concept just blew my mind away because it fulfilled the glossy eyecandy look but youve managed to do subtle things that i didnt even think of.
Great work. Great concept.

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Damn! Wish WP7 did look like this!
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I second that. HTC and MS make it happen.

I'd pre-order it.

It's a bit over the boundaries of what's possible with the tiles. Also I think changing the default circle buttons is a very bad idea, as it destroys the uniform layout of the entire platform.
The design language for WP7 is not just for the home-screen, but also applications, which is important to take in consideration for a custom layout.

hmm on 1st two images there is soft keys below but on the last they look pretty hardware ...

look sick
htc and microsoft NEED to see this

this is nice, I mite giving up a super amoled screen for this

now thats pretty awesome thats imagination at work

Windcape said:
It's a bit over the boundaries of what's possible with the tiles. Also I think changing the default circle buttons is a very bad idea, as it destroys the uniform layout of the entire platform.
The design language for WP7 is not just for the home-screen, but also applications, which is important to take in consideration for a custom layout.
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Looking forward to your design
dzatara said:
hmm on 1st two images there is soft keys below but on the last they look pretty hardware ...
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You wouldn't be "" if you'd take the time to read the first post.

_LeCiel_ said:
Looking forward to your design
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The point is that it's NOT a good idea to make a home-screen that's not using the design language of the rest of the platform.
Designing isn't about fancy colors, gradients, and bevels. It's also about usability, uniformness, and easy recognition.
Anyone can do a fancy layout, but it's few who can create a overall design language for a entire platform. And this is why Sense UI doesn't make awful lot of sense on the WP7.

Windcape said:
The point is that it's NOT a good idea to make a home-screen that's not using the design language of the rest of the platform.
Designing isn't about fancy colors, gradients, and bevels. It's also about usability, uniformness, and easy recognition.
Anyone can do a fancy layout, but it's few who can create a overall design language for a entire platform. And this is why Sense UI doesn't make awful lot of sense on the WP7.
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im not sure how his concept would be less easy to recognize, but even if it is o well it looks great, id rather have black tiles then any of the colors they provide anyway

Yeah, the black/yellow theme is likely the option HTC will go with as default.
But I'm more explicit thinking of the circular buttons used for navigation and the application bar. It's preferable if they stay as a single stroke color used for the vector graphics used everywhere else on the platform.
Because the thing is, opposed to previous phones, HTC can't make a "Sense" theme apply so deep into the phone, as the otherwise would, as most buttons are vector graphics directly in XAML, and not replaceable images, and most Hubs are applications, and not style-able widgets.

Windcape said:
The point is that it's NOT a good idea to make a home-screen that's not using the design language of the rest of the platform.
Designing isn't about fancy colors, gradients, and bevels. It's also about usability, uniformness, and easy recognition.
Anyone can do a fancy layout, but it's few who can create a overall design language for a entire platform. And this is why Sense UI doesn't make awful lot of sense on the WP7.
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You're taking this far too seriously. I'm obviously not working for HTC and I wasn't payed to create your vision of how WP7 and Sensu UI should look. Just like you or anyone else I have my own vision. The only difference is that I made the effort to make it "real" on some level and decided to share it with the XDA community. I think you're just being rude.
It's not like this is a preview of a real skin for WP7 that I'll be working on.

You're rather strange if you would consider 2-3 pages of praises to be a good response to your work. Criticism is the only way to improve, and being taught a bit about why the design language is important, from a application developers point of view, should help you think your layouts though, beyond what's just a fancy home-screen.
Nobody's denying it looks good, but looks is not even the half of it.

Annoyances - moved from iPhone

First, let me say up front I do not regret giving up my iPhone for the SGN2. I love this phone!
But it is not perfect. Some of my annoyances may very well be things about Android I just haven't learned yet. If that's the case, please educate me! Others are probably design or feature choices. If you know of a workaround, please share it.
1. No consistent, simple way to jump to the top of a list, page, or screen. I enabled the double-tap on the top of the phone (Settings | System | Motion | Double-tap to top) but that only works in a very few places. With the iPhone, tapping the top edge of the display provided a consistent solution.
2. I expected with the large display and high resolution to have more screen real estate on which information would be displayed. Instead all the display items (buttons, text boxes, etc.) are larger and the "Tiny" font isn't really. Sometimes I feel like I bought a remedial phone, kind of like the big print version of Readers Digest.
3. Along the same lines, why is it I can't find widgets that I can resize smaller in order to fit more information on my home screen?
4. Inflated ratings on the apps in the Play Store. Are there any 2-star rated apps? I've tried some 3- and 4-star rated apps that I would have rated no higher than 2-stars. But I have to say there certainly aren't any over-priced apps that I have run across.
5. There are Android ports or equivalents to almost all the apps I used regularly on my iPhone, but I'm sad I haven't found substitutes for some. I used Guitar Toolkit every day (for both guitar & ukulele). Thanks to forums I have found some lesser substitutes, but why do they all use midi sounds instead of actual samples of guitar & uke strings? I haven't found a substitute yet for iTunes but am still looking. And I have just begun my search for an equivalent to Camera+.
I really am fond of this phone, annoyances and all. To me, this is what the Apple Newton (anyone remember that?) would have been if Apple (Steve Jobs, actually) hadn't dropped the product after 2-3 years. I loved my Newtons which has caused me to form a strong emotional bond to this phone.
Anyone have their own annoyances--or solutions for mine?
Doug

1. There might be some application for this. Possibly. I'm not entirely sure. Android however, has complete flick scrolling. All you have to do is give it sufficient momentum, and you can fly to the top or bottom no problem. But I guess that isn't a solution really.
2 & 3. There isn't really an answer for this yet. It's bothering a lot of people. Once we get AOSP, we will hopefully get a port of ParanoidAndroid. Which will fix your issue. You can always turn down the LCD density in the build prop. But doing so will break most applications. You should be safe with setting it to 240.
4. The variety of Android phones is immense. And as such, people moving from an older model and installing the applications they are familiar with will notice an increase in performance from that application. People aren't looking at the quality of the application, but at how it affects them and their experience with it. Which is the only explanation for why Advanced Task Killer is still popular. Ignorance.
5. That happens. Some you won't find something that lives up to the iOS equivalent. Yet I've found applications that are on Android that are incredible and don't have a good iOS equivalent. Namely, PicsArt.
I don't like that the headphone jack is on the top.
And I really liked the backing and sides on the Galaxy Nexus, which I switched from to this phone. Really plasticky, not that I'm complaining. I just really enjoyed the feel of the Galaxy Nexus
I'm glad you like the phone. Be wary though, there are plenty of people on this site with an extreme hate for Apple and it's products. Though this particular forum is really well behaved, and I've only met nice people thus far. I haven't seen people attack each other for their beliefs or past yet. Knock on wood. Haha hope that helps, even though I only offered one solution to your issues.

DougNC said:
First, let me say up front I do not regret giving up my iPhone for the SGN2. I love this phone!
But it is not perfect. Some of my annoyances may very well be things about Android I just haven't learned yet. If that's the case, please educate me! Others are probably design or feature choices. If you know of a workaround, please share it.
1. No consistent, simple way to jump to the top of a list, page, or screen. I enabled the double-tap on the top of the phone (Settings | System | Motion | Double-tap to top) but that only works in a very few places. With the iPhone, tapping the top edge of the display provided a consistent solution.
2. I expected with the large display and high resolution to have more screen real estate on which information would be displayed. Instead all the display items (buttons, text boxes, etc.) are larger and the "Tiny" font isn't really. Sometimes I feel like I bought a remedial phone, kind of like the big print version of Readers Digest.
3. Along the same lines, why is it I can't find widgets that I can resize smaller in order to fit more information on my home screen?
4. Inflated ratings on the apps in the Play Store. Are there any 2-star rated apps? I've tried some 3- and 4-star rated apps that I would have rated no higher than 2-stars. But I have to say there certainly aren't any over-priced apps that I have run across.
5. There are Android ports or equivalents to almost all the apps I used regularly on my iPhone, but I'm sad I haven't found substitutes for some. I used Guitar Toolkit every day (for both guitar & ukulele). Thanks to forums I have found some lesser substitutes, but why do they all use midi sounds instead of actual samples of guitar & uke strings? I haven't found a substitute yet for iTunes but am still looking. And I have just begun my search for an equivalent to Camera+.
I really am fond of this phone, annoyances and all. To me, this is what the Apple Newton (anyone remember that?) would have been if Apple (Steve Jobs, actually) hadn't dropped the product after 2-3 years. I loved my Newtons which has caused me to form a strong emotional bond to this phone.
Anyone have their own annoyances--or solutions for mine?
Doug
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Well soumds like you would like the iphone 5
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Try a different launcher like Nova or Holo. This will at least fix your issue with not being able to resize widgets, and will also give you a lot more homescreen real estate.
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ssCISengineer said:
Well soumds like you would like the iphone 5
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Neither the iPhone 5 nor the iPad Mini measured up to what I was reading about in the Android world. And there was no turning back once I saw the specs and video reviews of the SGN2!
I may be late to the party but I've got my dancing shoes on now!
Doug

Yeah pressing the top is one of the most wanted features for me, at least when you flicker you finger faster then normal it goes up quicker or down so the helps in the browser. About the screen real state is really annoying to have only 4 apps down and 4 to the side I rooted my device mostly to help someone and put a mod for the screen, is better now
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The buttons being big is annoying to me too but it is what it is, I don't play guitar so idk about the rest, I tried the new iphone 5 love the design but too small, and too limited so I stay with Android this time around and love it, welcome to the group be aware that we have a lot annoying fan boys around :/
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You should try flashing roms, that's where the fun begins.
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What do you think about the new Play Store?

I think the icons for the apps are way too big for our note. I personally think it was better before when we could actually see more apps before scrolling.

Eh... it definitely could show more on one page like it did before. I rarely go through lists of apps except for when setting up my phone after a flash. I did end up turning my phone sideways and then it showed the apps list similar to how it did before
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This design is good for the elderly and hard to see people. Kind of like the Big Launcher.
But for me, I would like to see more on one screen.

I prefer the previews version.

Not sure if it's possible but yeah, it would be neat if someone could maybe modify it.

So far I hate the new layout. I liked it better before
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+1 many times on the previous version. When turning pages, icons seem way too big.
Someone on Google has an increased visual prescription :silly:

I don't care for it very much. Seems like a more childish version of the store, were as the previous version seemed more mature and had a nicer style to it.
I really hope this isn't what to expect for key lime pie
noted for future reference on my Note 2

I just went through every layout available with hybrid properties in Paranoid Android and I couldn't find one I don't hate.
The best looking one was actually the 360p, the others have even fewer apps per page.
What were they thinking?!
Sent from my phablet.

Previous version is better ....
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I don't like it. Looks like the play store lost it edge. It's to big, to immature looking, and if it could display all my previous purchases that would be great.

I think the previous purchases are there. Just that the icons are 1000x bigger.

It's horrible for reasons mentioned. I tried it in a early release and quickly switched back to my modded version. Just look for modded versions and find one that doesn't auto update. I imagine they will become more popular soon enough. It was such a bad choice that I hope that dept or designer gets fired. What a sh!theaded move...

You'd think that they could come up with something better...

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It's horrible for reasons mentioned. I tried it in a early release and quickly switched back to my modded version. Just look for modded versions and find one that doesn't auto update. I imagine they will become more popular soon enough. It was such a bad choice that I hope that dept or designer gets fired. What a sh!theaded move...
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Or hit by a bus. It is complete and utter crap. You'd think they'd have learned from seeing Microsoft suffer with Win 8. Don't make massive UI changes that people can't opt out of. Yes I know you can access the desktop in W8, but you need Classic Shell or other stuff to get a proper start menu.

muqali said:
Or hit by a bus. It is complete and utter crap. You'd think they'd have learned from seeing Microsoft suffer with Win 8. Don't make massive UI changes that people can't opt out of. Yes I know you can access the desktop in W8, but you need Classic Shell or other stuff to get a proper start menu.
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Yup... Same reason why I'm stickin with my Win7/Linux setup for a couple of more years. I was kinda excited initially but got turned off the more and more they released hints and sneak peaks for 8. I haveven considered a iMac. I helped purchase and setup one for my in-laws. Yup they're old and technologically inept lol! I wanted to sandbox them without worrying about too many viruses. Last model winxp they had (too cheap to run decent antivirus) drove me insane. My dad (graphics artist) has been preaching the praises of apple for years (way before iPod was a twinkle in Steve Job's brain) and has one also. I have to admit it is pretty nice for some things but is still too limited IMHO. Thinking about EVER owning an Apple product makes me cringe no offense cause some of em are great products just too hipster and limited in capacity.
Back to Playstore (still think the name change was stupid)... Maybe they could make it have different file views like file explore r or multiple views based on DPI a compromise next UI overhaul. I wonder sometimes if Google is making poor choices the more mature Android gets. Over simplifying things just because of the fact that a few critics claim Android is too complicated isn't a great thing. Sometimes things get more confusing and lose fuctionality in the process of simplification. Thank goodness this just a isolated case with playstore and maybe a couple of things for now. It could be way worse. Android is still the greatest mobile player around but they better continue to listen to the little guy and developers especially on the eve of Ubuntu Mobile which could take a piece of the pie.

im very happy with it they removed the dumb ass page after installing / updating apps :good:

The store seems to be going downhill ever since they renamed it from Google Market to Play Store.

it doesnt bother me. It looks much better inverted though. . I wish Google would bring back the purchased tab
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XDA Classic Theme.

Not that I was super active poster in the recent years, but I was more or less always here.
I had the pleasure to read about the last happenings and so on....
Well that pleasure ended few weeks ago when I was forced to switch from my beloved and usable yellowish theme to one of the "modern" ugly/heavy/unusable themes.
I hoped in a temporary malfunction or about a scheduled maintenance but, after many week passed, is clear that it was removed on purpose.
I understand that kids tend to prefer the novelty and/or sleekness over a proven working thing, but designers /webmasters should remember that the audience is made also by people used to simple things that are just working and that don't need to be "improved", think to the almost perfect W7 style start menu and compare it with W10's one (which is already a step back).
Think to Android Gingerbread, somewhat rough and primitive, but with an unmatched usability by any of the "sleeker" following version
So as my friend the CEO of Vivaldi is used to say, "when in doubt make it an option", which is exactly the opposite of what happened here.
So pleease get the classic theme back or at least add a theme that mimic the removed one just like many other forums did when forced to upgrade the board engine for whatever reason (see My Digital Life, for example).
I'm sure my opinion here is shared by many others although not the majority of the userbase.
Thanks in advance for your attention.

sd_shadow said:
There is a feedback and recommendation thread.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987254
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Thanks, I linked this thread there

The Solutor said:
Not that I was super active poster in the recent years, but I was more or less always here.
I had the pleasure to read about the last happenings and so on....
Well that pleasure ended few weeks ago when I was forced to switch from my beloved and usable yellowish theme to one of the "modern" ugly/heavy/unusable themes.
I hoped in a temporary malfunction or about a scheduled maintenance but, after many week passed, is clear that it was removed on purpose.
I understand that kids tend to prefer the novelty and/or sleekness over a proven working thing, but designers /webmasters should remember that the audience is made also by people used to simple things that are just working and that don't need to be "improved", think to the almost perfect W7 style start menu and compare it with W10's one (which is already a step back).
Think to Android Gingerbread, somewhat rough and primitive, but with an unmatched usability by any of the "sleeker" following version
So as my friend the CEO of Vivaldi is used to say, "when in doubt make it an option", which is exactly the opposite of what happened here.
So pleease get the classic theme back or at least add a theme that mimic the removed one just like many other forums did when forced to upgrade the board engine for whatever reason (see My Digital Life, for example).
I'm sure my opinion here is shared by many others although not the majority of the userbase.
Thanks in advance for your attention.
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There is a feedback and recommendation thread.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987254
There is major overhaul of the XDA website in the way.
Classic theme will not be the only casualty.
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This basically. How do I get the classic theme back? The new theme is objectively worse.

rpgdev said:
This basically. How do I get the classic theme back? The new theme is objectively worse.
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These are your options.
Light/Dark/Classic Themes

sd_shadow said:
These are your options.
Light/Dark/Classic Themes
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Is classic supposed to be the old xda theme? This one:
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Because it doesn't look like that at all, looks the same as the others with a few changes to the colors maybe (honestly can't tell the difference, nothing 'classic' about it as far as I can see).

Old prior XDA Classic is history. The new themed light/dark Classic is the closest match your going to have...

galaxys said:
Old prior XDA Classic is history. The new themed light/dark Classic is the closest match your going to have...
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Can you put a screenshot of the new light dark classic? It looks just the same as the others to me.
PD: Thank you xda devs, for fixing what ain't broken just to justify your designers payroll.

rpgdev said:
PD: Thank you xda devs, for fixing what ain't broken just to justify your designers payroll.
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Not broken? There have been posts about how broken the old site was every day for years.

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Not broken? There have been posts about how broken the old site was every day for years.
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Don't be daft, you know I'm talking about the design of the site.

I see you prefer to back blindly whatever decision is taken in the "high spheres" rather than discussing the matter.
Is not a good way to discuss, just replying with preformatted sentences like "the classic theme is dead, period".
The point is that a good theme was first removed, then replaced by a theme with the same name which has nothing to do with it, not even the colour palette!!!
So to summarize
before: who didn't like it had a choice of many modernish/metroish themes
after: who miss it has no choice other than an ugly theme which is "classic" only in its name.
As I said before, zillions of other forums boards where replaced/upgraded, for technical/security reasons, forcing them to leave behind the historical themes, but at least the webmasters attempted to provide something that resembled, as much as possible, the gone theme.
MDL forum is a notable example, but there are many others.
Why this is not done here (one of most technical forum around the web) is just beyond me.