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I won a WP7 phone!!!

Sadly, I won't get it til general availablity and I don't know which phone. Microsoft peeps are still being cagey with it. The guy wouldn't even let me take a pic of a LG WP7 device even though it's been all over the internet already. The only real new info I've gleaned is that they will support basic exchange policies like pin unlock and remote wipe. Still going to try and fenagle some more info out of them.

WTH? Congratulations!!

cool can i have it?

Congrats!.........

Depending on what they say, I might just get a HD2. The WP7 device is supposed to be general availability and they might make devices available before then and I'm not willing to wait.

niceeee
thats lucky and awesome!

Remember to colaborate with XDA and help WP7 become more awesome .

Windows 7 phone is dead before the official release

cgigate said:
Windows 7 phone is dead before the official release
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After having seen it in person, the whole OS is rather impressive. While it may not on paper be the #1 phone OS, it is rather good and will put up a good fight. Oh and they've only shown off around 70% of the OS's features. More positive info will come to light as we near launch.

RustyGrom said:
After having seen it in person, the whole OS is rather impressive.
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Did your opinion change for the better? I may be wrong, but I recall you were pretty negative about it.
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Oh and they've only shown off around 70% of the OS's features.
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Do you know this from seeing the features or is it what you think will happen?

vangrieg said:
Did your opinion change for the better? I may be wrong, but I recall you were pretty negative about it.
Do you know this from seeing the features or is it what you think will happen?
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I think I've always been relatively positive about the new OS. While some of the new restrictions are annoyingly restrictive, I don't think it'll be a problem for us. In one of the sessions today they showed off how devs will be able to unlock phones and it was just a desktop app that talks to the store. I can easily see this app being modified to just not talk to the store but I'm betting there will need to be more done than this. So while I still wish MS would open up the dev platform more, I somewhat respect the decisions they've made and I don't think it will be hard for the rest of us to have phones we can do as we wish with.
It was stated earlier in the week by one of the members of the WP7 team that only 70-80% of the OS had been shown off up to this point. However, after going hands on with a device for a while today, I didn't find much that we haven't seen yet. The whole thing is fluid and is super intuitive. It really is a joy to use. So I'm not sure how much is left to unveil but it seems rather useable today. But none of the WP7 guys that I talked to are using it full time yet so that's kind of telling.

nice... congrats... HD2 is still better looking then any of the WP7 phones we've seen... the only one that beats it is the prototype images of HD3 made in photoshop lol... dell lightening comes close, but hw keyboard kills it as well... just get the HD2, then u'll have to option of running 6.5 or android (90% possible so far) and prolly even wp7 when it comes out since it conforms to all specs ...

Pics or it didn't happen!

Jeeze. Necro thread!
I ended up deciding to wait for a WP7 device. The HD2 they had was a european model and couldn't do 3G here. A smartphone without 3G is useless. So I wait til October like everyone else. But at least it will be free.
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nice... congrats... HD2 is still better looking then any of the WP7 phones we've seen... the only one that beats it is the prototype images of HD3 made in photoshop lol... dell lightening comes close, but hw keyboard kills it as well... just get the HD2, then u'll have to option of running 6.5 or android (90% possible so far) and prolly even wp7 when it comes out since it conforms to all specs ...
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Not all the specs, AFAIK the chipsets in the HD2 do not conform to all the hardware specs that Microsoft has made for Windows Phone 7 compatibility. Things like the hardware image scaler for example are not present in the HD2, nor is support for hardware acceleration of the VC-1 codec.

I understand MS is a software company but dang.

They have now exporting the remote control feature to ios and android......., wth besides Zune they are taking the competitive advantage from WP. At least charge other platforms for the service.. http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/13/...or-iphone-brings-direct-remote-android-joins/

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They have now exporting the remote control feature to ios and android......., wth besides Zune they are taking the competitive advantage from WP. At least charge other platforms for the service.. http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/13/...or-iphone-brings-direct-remote-android-joins/
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I know; just saw that and I was like what the It's like they are making better or equal products for Android and iOS but I don't see iOS, Android and anyone else for that matter, making apps for Windows Phone. Like for exsample; I heard a rumor that with Connector for Mac you can actually sync with Outlook via USB but not with Windows/Windows Phone

I am just sitting here like why, I cannot show my friends anything I can do on my phone besides live tiles, now that FB is being integrated in iOS.
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Software company doing software, doesnt seem odd to me. Actually smart.
Great app btw
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While its understandable, its not evn a good effort. The App wont even start on my gtab 10.1, telling me the app would not work well on my device...
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Maybe your screen is too big, the app is great. Everything works even the Avatar animations.
Funny thing is, its implemented better than the WP7 version. Quck access to messages, and the dots at the bottom letting you know which screen you're on. If it stayed logged in that would be awesome, and a widget would make me replace Spark 360.
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You are all looking at it wrong:
The iPhone and Android users are just beta testers...

vetvito said:
Maybe your screen is too big, the app is great. Everything works even the Avatar animations.
Funny thing is, its implemented better than the WP7 version. Quck access to messages, and the dots at the bottom letting you know which screen you're on. If it stayed logged in that would be awesome, and a widget would make me replace Spark 360.
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Since I can not use the app despite google play saying it's compatible with my device (talk about bad user experience on android here... ) I can not compare it directly, but on WP7 I also have quick access to messages and I do not need dots to see what screen I am on... I can see that by looking at my screen
EDIT: wait. Regarding the messages, I am mixing this up with the games hub. Not that i have used the xbox live companion app too often, though. I never found it useful in the first place.
EDIT2: No, wait again. Is this app like the games hub or like the xbox live companion app?

As I also understand that Microsoft is a software company, they have the right to develop software on other platforms. But this affects their own products marketshare (wp). If people are used to the system their using and since ms apps are available across devices, why switch? The issue today isn't about how many their apps in store, or how an app is exclusive to this platform, but the OS experience (and also money money money). Take the iOS 6 example, not so wow-ing eh? People might eventually switch to another platform to have a different experience, but I know someone will counter-attack this statement so I'll say it now: People don't like change. People do from time to time. Think about it, in general most people get sick of doing the daily routine, in fact all of us do. That's why we choose to have hobbies or do something for a change to experience something totally different from the daily routine.
Secondly, its a persons decision. They like iOS, fine. Android, fine. Just as long as they brag about this and complain about that, its not like everyone cares about your device.
Also keep in mind that Xbox Music may also be available to these devices. They may have showed it off at E3 that it was running on a lumia 800 or a windows tablet, but you just never know.
In windows phone, the games hub is the whole Xbox Live app available in iOS and Android. The Xbox Companion app is only available for windows phone and iOS atm.
vetvito said:
Funny thing is, its implemented better than the WP7 version. Quck access to messages, and the dots at the bottom letting you know which screen you're on. If it stayed logged in that would be awesome, and a widget would make me replace Spark 360.
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That's because windows phone's metro UI is panoramic/pivot, the whole hub/app overlaps the screen, unlike iOS and android which an app is only limited to use the available screen resolution, unless it is programmed to.

[email protected] said:
You are all looking at it wrong:
The iPhone and Android users are just beta testers...
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I believe the app/functionality was first available on WP7. So who is a beta tester?
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Coming from a household (and a workplace) where each 'user' has picked the PC / Tablet / Phone / Device of their choice, integration of all of them is VERY important, and reaffirms my personal commitment to the Win platform. They're thinking of my needs, not their domination of the market.
Seriously, watch all the google-using people complain about what they can do better on their google devices. Why wouldn't the additional exposure on 'foreign' OS devices for an MS app make you think about switching to the platform where the app came from?
In the case of the next generation, this just makes sense. Who'd want a centralized device in your living room that only connected with less than half the devices you already own? That critical piece (XBox) needs to be connected everywhere and to everything before users can even think of replacing existing devices. This is critical for success in the already installed base of devices out there.
People would be unimpressed if they had this 'cool feature' that let them control / stream / et. al.: but only if you buy all new devices. Wow, that would blow chucks pretty fast.
It's analogous to Office products - who'd buy into it if it ONLY worked with a small subset of devices / OS'es? It simply MUST be ubiquitous to take it seriously.

Correct, people need to understand the Xbox is a entirely different beast then petty cell phones. Microsoft makes more money off of Xbox, hardware and software.
Something better to focus on, Skype
http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/6/13/3082352/windows-phone-8-screenshots-skype-camera-ui-rumor
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Annoyances - moved from iPhone

First, let me say up front I do not regret giving up my iPhone for the SGN2. I love this phone!
But it is not perfect. Some of my annoyances may very well be things about Android I just haven't learned yet. If that's the case, please educate me! Others are probably design or feature choices. If you know of a workaround, please share it.
1. No consistent, simple way to jump to the top of a list, page, or screen. I enabled the double-tap on the top of the phone (Settings | System | Motion | Double-tap to top) but that only works in a very few places. With the iPhone, tapping the top edge of the display provided a consistent solution.
2. I expected with the large display and high resolution to have more screen real estate on which information would be displayed. Instead all the display items (buttons, text boxes, etc.) are larger and the "Tiny" font isn't really. Sometimes I feel like I bought a remedial phone, kind of like the big print version of Readers Digest.
3. Along the same lines, why is it I can't find widgets that I can resize smaller in order to fit more information on my home screen?
4. Inflated ratings on the apps in the Play Store. Are there any 2-star rated apps? I've tried some 3- and 4-star rated apps that I would have rated no higher than 2-stars. But I have to say there certainly aren't any over-priced apps that I have run across.
5. There are Android ports or equivalents to almost all the apps I used regularly on my iPhone, but I'm sad I haven't found substitutes for some. I used Guitar Toolkit every day (for both guitar & ukulele). Thanks to forums I have found some lesser substitutes, but why do they all use midi sounds instead of actual samples of guitar & uke strings? I haven't found a substitute yet for iTunes but am still looking. And I have just begun my search for an equivalent to Camera+.
I really am fond of this phone, annoyances and all. To me, this is what the Apple Newton (anyone remember that?) would have been if Apple (Steve Jobs, actually) hadn't dropped the product after 2-3 years. I loved my Newtons which has caused me to form a strong emotional bond to this phone.
Anyone have their own annoyances--or solutions for mine?
Doug

1. There might be some application for this. Possibly. I'm not entirely sure. Android however, has complete flick scrolling. All you have to do is give it sufficient momentum, and you can fly to the top or bottom no problem. But I guess that isn't a solution really.
2 & 3. There isn't really an answer for this yet. It's bothering a lot of people. Once we get AOSP, we will hopefully get a port of ParanoidAndroid. Which will fix your issue. You can always turn down the LCD density in the build prop. But doing so will break most applications. You should be safe with setting it to 240.
4. The variety of Android phones is immense. And as such, people moving from an older model and installing the applications they are familiar with will notice an increase in performance from that application. People aren't looking at the quality of the application, but at how it affects them and their experience with it. Which is the only explanation for why Advanced Task Killer is still popular. Ignorance.
5. That happens. Some you won't find something that lives up to the iOS equivalent. Yet I've found applications that are on Android that are incredible and don't have a good iOS equivalent. Namely, PicsArt.
I don't like that the headphone jack is on the top.
And I really liked the backing and sides on the Galaxy Nexus, which I switched from to this phone. Really plasticky, not that I'm complaining. I just really enjoyed the feel of the Galaxy Nexus
I'm glad you like the phone. Be wary though, there are plenty of people on this site with an extreme hate for Apple and it's products. Though this particular forum is really well behaved, and I've only met nice people thus far. I haven't seen people attack each other for their beliefs or past yet. Knock on wood. Haha hope that helps, even though I only offered one solution to your issues.

DougNC said:
First, let me say up front I do not regret giving up my iPhone for the SGN2. I love this phone!
But it is not perfect. Some of my annoyances may very well be things about Android I just haven't learned yet. If that's the case, please educate me! Others are probably design or feature choices. If you know of a workaround, please share it.
1. No consistent, simple way to jump to the top of a list, page, or screen. I enabled the double-tap on the top of the phone (Settings | System | Motion | Double-tap to top) but that only works in a very few places. With the iPhone, tapping the top edge of the display provided a consistent solution.
2. I expected with the large display and high resolution to have more screen real estate on which information would be displayed. Instead all the display items (buttons, text boxes, etc.) are larger and the "Tiny" font isn't really. Sometimes I feel like I bought a remedial phone, kind of like the big print version of Readers Digest.
3. Along the same lines, why is it I can't find widgets that I can resize smaller in order to fit more information on my home screen?
4. Inflated ratings on the apps in the Play Store. Are there any 2-star rated apps? I've tried some 3- and 4-star rated apps that I would have rated no higher than 2-stars. But I have to say there certainly aren't any over-priced apps that I have run across.
5. There are Android ports or equivalents to almost all the apps I used regularly on my iPhone, but I'm sad I haven't found substitutes for some. I used Guitar Toolkit every day (for both guitar & ukulele). Thanks to forums I have found some lesser substitutes, but why do they all use midi sounds instead of actual samples of guitar & uke strings? I haven't found a substitute yet for iTunes but am still looking. And I have just begun my search for an equivalent to Camera+.
I really am fond of this phone, annoyances and all. To me, this is what the Apple Newton (anyone remember that?) would have been if Apple (Steve Jobs, actually) hadn't dropped the product after 2-3 years. I loved my Newtons which has caused me to form a strong emotional bond to this phone.
Anyone have their own annoyances--or solutions for mine?
Doug
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Well soumds like you would like the iphone 5
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Try a different launcher like Nova or Holo. This will at least fix your issue with not being able to resize widgets, and will also give you a lot more homescreen real estate.
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ssCISengineer said:
Well soumds like you would like the iphone 5
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Neither the iPhone 5 nor the iPad Mini measured up to what I was reading about in the Android world. And there was no turning back once I saw the specs and video reviews of the SGN2!
I may be late to the party but I've got my dancing shoes on now!
Doug

Yeah pressing the top is one of the most wanted features for me, at least when you flicker you finger faster then normal it goes up quicker or down so the helps in the browser. About the screen real state is really annoying to have only 4 apps down and 4 to the side I rooted my device mostly to help someone and put a mod for the screen, is better now
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The buttons being big is annoying to me too but it is what it is, I don't play guitar so idk about the rest, I tried the new iphone 5 love the design but too small, and too limited so I stay with Android this time around and love it, welcome to the group be aware that we have a lot annoying fan boys around :/
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[contest!] waving andy decal!!

Okay I've been slacking lately and have not followed through with my last contest so, here is the WAVING ANDY DECAL CONTEST!!!
RULES - explain why you love android, and how its helped change the way you look for a smart phone. Explain how you came to android and how it has positively impacted your day to day routine. Thus add how android is the most superior phone/tablet/ereader/operating system over all others.
WINNER WILL BE CHOSEN BY YOU THE MEMBERS AND THE WAY YOU CHOOSE IS, SIMPLY THANK THE POST YOU THINK SHALL TRIUMPH OVER ALL OTHERS. POST WITH THE MOST THANKS WILL WIN A 6 INCH BY 6 INCH VINYL DECAL. CONTEST ENDS 7-07-2013. ONE ENTRY PER CONTESTANT, NO MODIFYING YOUR POST ONCES ITS THERE IT CAN NOT BE CHANGED.
THANKS EVERYONE!!!
DISCLAIMER: WINNER MUST PROVIDE AN ADDRESS WITHIN 2 BUSINESS DAYS OF WINNING THE CONTEST. WINNER WILL BE ANNOUNCED HERE ON THIS POST. IF WINNER FAILS TO PROVIDE AN ADDRESS WITHIN THE TIME FRAME THEN THE RUNNER UP WILL BE SELECTED AS THE WINNER.
GOOD LUCK EVERYONE!!!
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I love android because it gives apple a good run for their ICR*P.
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My story begins when I took a visit to a t-mobile store and purchased my first smart phone: a my touch 3g slide. I learned a lot from that tank of a device. I think I spent 8 hours or more reading xda before I finally gained root access.
I love android for way too many reasons than I can list here. But my top reasons include:
Not being locked down to what some corporation says I will enjoy.
Having a sense of community on XDA with like-minded individuals.
Having the freedom to truly make my device mine.
Getting a new hobby which I'm constantly intellectually simulated and challenged.
Being able to perform tasks that usually could only be performed on my computer on the go.
To say that Android has changed my life for the better would be an understatement. Not only has it made my communications easier, is made a lot of my daily tasks either automated, faster or streamlined.
I can't think of any mobile platform that can currently accomplish everything android can. At least not so effortlessly. Many have made the claim but anyone who does their research knows that the claims are false.

I love android because it let's me make my phone the way I want it.
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^^^Isn't that breaking the rules of the contest? LoL
Why do I love android?
I love android because of the freedom it offers. Its not limited to one phone, released by one company, released once a year. Android hasn't really changed the way I look for a smart phone, but XDA sure has.
How I came to Android and how it has positively impacted my day to day routine?
Well, like many others, I was an apple fanboy at one time and I had that one friend that had to rub in my face how much better his android phone was than my iPhone 2g (my favorite iPhone of them all...seriously). I got tired of my friend showing of his android phone (the original droid with the keyboard) so I traded my iPhone 2g for a Mytouch 3g with the 3.5mm headphone jack. Oh my god, I fell in love with android, being able to add widgets to the home screen blew my mind. Ever since I've had nothing but android devices (I played with an iPhone here and there, couldn't resist). Android has not positively impacted my life in any way, shape or form. It made me discover XDA and then I became a flash-aholic (may need a 12-step program lol). To be serious, android has positively impacted my life, it made me realize how much more I can do and allows me to do with a phone.
Android Superior?
Yes and no. Without the Devs and helpful members here on XDA, I think I would be on the borderline of switching back to an iPhone. The main reason I like iphones is because of the battery life and the stability of the OS. Without XDA, we would be stuck with whatever Google and the OEM gives us, which is fine for average user who just texts, uses internet, play games and make calls as well as download a home screen replacement and a few widgets, but most of us here on XDA are here for a reason. In some ways Android is superior to other OS's, but in other ways the other OS's are superior.

XDA Classic Theme.

Not that I was super active poster in the recent years, but I was more or less always here.
I had the pleasure to read about the last happenings and so on....
Well that pleasure ended few weeks ago when I was forced to switch from my beloved and usable yellowish theme to one of the "modern" ugly/heavy/unusable themes.
I hoped in a temporary malfunction or about a scheduled maintenance but, after many week passed, is clear that it was removed on purpose.
I understand that kids tend to prefer the novelty and/or sleekness over a proven working thing, but designers /webmasters should remember that the audience is made also by people used to simple things that are just working and that don't need to be "improved", think to the almost perfect W7 style start menu and compare it with W10's one (which is already a step back).
Think to Android Gingerbread, somewhat rough and primitive, but with an unmatched usability by any of the "sleeker" following version
So as my friend the CEO of Vivaldi is used to say, "when in doubt make it an option", which is exactly the opposite of what happened here.
So pleease get the classic theme back or at least add a theme that mimic the removed one just like many other forums did when forced to upgrade the board engine for whatever reason (see My Digital Life, for example).
I'm sure my opinion here is shared by many others although not the majority of the userbase.
Thanks in advance for your attention.

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There is a feedback and recommendation thread.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987254
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Thanks, I linked this thread there

The Solutor said:
Not that I was super active poster in the recent years, but I was more or less always here.
I had the pleasure to read about the last happenings and so on....
Well that pleasure ended few weeks ago when I was forced to switch from my beloved and usable yellowish theme to one of the "modern" ugly/heavy/unusable themes.
I hoped in a temporary malfunction or about a scheduled maintenance but, after many week passed, is clear that it was removed on purpose.
I understand that kids tend to prefer the novelty and/or sleekness over a proven working thing, but designers /webmasters should remember that the audience is made also by people used to simple things that are just working and that don't need to be "improved", think to the almost perfect W7 style start menu and compare it with W10's one (which is already a step back).
Think to Android Gingerbread, somewhat rough and primitive, but with an unmatched usability by any of the "sleeker" following version
So as my friend the CEO of Vivaldi is used to say, "when in doubt make it an option", which is exactly the opposite of what happened here.
So pleease get the classic theme back or at least add a theme that mimic the removed one just like many other forums did when forced to upgrade the board engine for whatever reason (see My Digital Life, for example).
I'm sure my opinion here is shared by many others although not the majority of the userbase.
Thanks in advance for your attention.
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There is a feedback and recommendation thread.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987254
There is major overhaul of the XDA website in the way.
Classic theme will not be the only casualty.
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This basically. How do I get the classic theme back? The new theme is objectively worse.

rpgdev said:
This basically. How do I get the classic theme back? The new theme is objectively worse.
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These are your options.
Light/Dark/Classic Themes

sd_shadow said:
These are your options.
Light/Dark/Classic Themes
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Is classic supposed to be the old xda theme? This one:
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Because it doesn't look like that at all, looks the same as the others with a few changes to the colors maybe (honestly can't tell the difference, nothing 'classic' about it as far as I can see).

Old prior XDA Classic is history. The new themed light/dark Classic is the closest match your going to have...

galaxys said:
Old prior XDA Classic is history. The new themed light/dark Classic is the closest match your going to have...
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Can you put a screenshot of the new light dark classic? It looks just the same as the others to me.
PD: Thank you xda devs, for fixing what ain't broken just to justify your designers payroll.

rpgdev said:
PD: Thank you xda devs, for fixing what ain't broken just to justify your designers payroll.
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Not broken? There have been posts about how broken the old site was every day for years.

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Not broken? There have been posts about how broken the old site was every day for years.
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Don't be daft, you know I'm talking about the design of the site.

I see you prefer to back blindly whatever decision is taken in the "high spheres" rather than discussing the matter.
Is not a good way to discuss, just replying with preformatted sentences like "the classic theme is dead, period".
The point is that a good theme was first removed, then replaced by a theme with the same name which has nothing to do with it, not even the colour palette!!!
So to summarize
before: who didn't like it had a choice of many modernish/metroish themes
after: who miss it has no choice other than an ugly theme which is "classic" only in its name.
As I said before, zillions of other forums boards where replaced/upgraded, for technical/security reasons, forcing them to leave behind the historical themes, but at least the webmasters attempted to provide something that resembled, as much as possible, the gone theme.
MDL forum is a notable example, but there are many others.
Why this is not done here (one of most technical forum around the web) is just beyond me.