Think we will be getting.an update soon for.the multitasking ability like the international version?:fingers-crossed:
5 Main Issues with Sprint's SGN2
I posted this up on Sprint's Forum to show that they are handicapping their new phone; thought I would post here as well.
No multiwindow capability
No Apps to SD capability
No simultaneous voice and data capability
No wireless charging capability
No GSM sim card swapability
I'll probably still get the SGN2 and will be happier when an update comes later to provide for the multiwindow capability because it is one of the things I really wanted this phone for; besides the huge screen and quad core processor.
And not being able to move apps to the sd card is a step backwards when we are moving forward with Android. What is up with that? This could become a problem for me as I usually like to load up my cell with apps.
Okay, we also lost the ability to talk on the phone while also using an app on the phone. From what I understand, it is becuase of hardware configuration wouldn't allow this.
Then the wireless charging would have been nice, but Sprint removed the contacts so we can't purchase the replacement back cover that would have given us wireless charging.
Finally, while I don't plan on traveling to other countries in the near future, you never really know, so I would have liked to have a true world phone where I can utilize SIM cards from other countries for cheaper price than what Sprint charges for international roaming. As it is, Sprint permanently hardwired their own sim into the phone. Still it does have GSM capability = $$$$
Started out really excited about the Note 2, just not as excited now. Still need to upgrade from my Epic and this seems the best choice.
You read my mind...in all points. Thank you.
dancon1961 said:
I posted this up on Sprint's Forum to show that they are handicapping their new phone; thought I would post here as well.
No multiwindow capability
No Apps to SD capability
No simultaneous voice and data capability
No wireless charging capability
No GSM sim card swapability
I'll probably still get the SGN2 and will be happier when an update comes later to provide for the multiwindow capability because it is one of the things I really wanted this phone for; besides the huge screen and quad core processor.
And not being able to move apps to the sd card is a step backwards when we are moving forward with Android. What is up with that? This could become a problem for me as I usually like to load up my cell with apps.
Okay, we also lost the ability to talk on the phone while also using an app on the phone. From what I understand, it is becuase of hardware configuration wouldn't allow this.
Then the wireless charging would have been nice, but Sprint removed the contacts so we can't purchase the replacement back cover that would have given us wireless charging.
Finally, while I don't plan on traveling to other countries in the near future, you never really know, so I would have liked to have a true world phone where I can utilize SIM cards from other countries for cheaper price than what Sprint charges for international roaming. As it is, Sprint permanently hardwired their own sim into the phone. Still it does have GSM capability = $$$$
Started out really excited about the Note 2, just not as excited now. Still need to upgrade from my Epic and this seems the best choice.
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yeah I'm really hoping we can at least get the multitasking update which was one of the main resins fir me purchasing this bad boy...saying a prayer!
Are these not the wireless charging contacts?
Those should be the NFC contacts.
i'm hoping jellybomb ports it from the other roms. very jealous the other versions have it already...
I'm sure (or atleast hope) that we will get in a update. I was excited about the feature as many others are, but if not, I'm sure devs will later port (as another member said) it over.
If I'm not mistaken, the other variants did not come out the box with the feature and received in a update some weeks later? I don't see why this would not apply to us as well. Not surprised one bit ours didn't come out the box with the feature. The international version came out, got the update before our variant even came out. I would suspect that our devices were already in route (being too late) to apply that feature?
Either way, both my wife and I are extremely happy with the device. We knew/know what could happen going into purchasing the device.
Just my first thoughts on it.
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somnifac said:
Those should be the NFC contacts.
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Why don't the sgs3 have it then?
vwgti18 said:
Why don't the sgs3 have it then?
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The NFC on the SGS3 is built into the battery; The Note2's is on the back cover.
chunology said:
The NFC on the SGS3 is built into the battery; The Note2's is on the back cover.
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Fuk had so much hope for wirelesses charging. I'm gonna go cry now.
vwgti18 said:
Fuk had so much hope for wirelesses charging. I'm gonna go cry now.
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If it matters that much to you just mod it. Their is already a thread for that.
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Silent25r said:
If it matters that much to you just mod it. Their is already a thread for that.
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Perhaps you've not been following the post. The Sprint version is missing the phone-side internal contacts for any wireless induction charging, so the phone, no matter what mod, cannot do it.
There *are* directions on how to mod the international and I believe some of the other US carried models to use the Palm Pre touchstone charger induction coils and bases, however, sprint fully removed this, and the SPH-L900 doesn't include these pins.
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Perhaps you've not been following the post. The Sprint version is missing the phone-side internal contacts for any wireless induction charging, so the phone, no matter what mod, cannot do it.
There *are* directions on how to mod the international and I believe some of the other US carried models to use the Palm Pre touchstone charger induction coils and bases, however, sprint fully removed this, and the SPH-L900 doesn't include these pins.
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Ouch. I did miss that and that sucks. I wonder if sprint rushed to get the device out early.
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Wow this is a major bummer for me...I was really excited for this phone. I even returned my gs3 for this phone and went down to my epic4g but to read this.....no voice and data its a major bummer and now no wireless charging and I was hoping for a world phone....what's wrong with sprint? I really thought samsung was not letting carriers change their phones...I'm seriously considering getting the gs3 back. I was really excited for using the s pen :S
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aramova said:
Perhaps you've not been following the post. The Sprint version is missing the phone-side internal contacts for any wireless induction charging, so the phone, no matter what mod, cannot do it.
There *are* directions on how to mod the international and I believe some of the other US carried models to use the Palm Pre touchstone charger induction coils and bases, however, sprint fully removed this, and the SPH-L900 doesn't include these pins.
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Wrong. The contacts are on the board. Get a replacement rear housing and back plate, problem solved.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1959005
If you really want inductive phone charging it wouldn't matter if there were contacts (hidden or not). Other phones that never had it as an option have been modded to work with inductive charging.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ve...s-mod-palm-touchstone-no-soldering-phone.html
http://www.pocketables.com/2010/06/...rk-with-palm-touchstone-wireless-charger.html
vwgti18 said:
Fuk had so much hope for wirelesses charging. I'm gonna go cry now.
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aramova said:
Perhaps you've not been following the post. The Sprint version is missing the phone-side internal contacts for any wireless induction charging, so the phone, no matter what mod, cannot do it.
There *are* directions on how to mod the international and I believe some of the other US carried models to use the Palm Pre touchstone charger induction coils and bases, however, sprint fully removed this, and the SPH-L900 doesn't include these pins.
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BTW, there is a thread showing the internals of the Sprint phone and it looks like the inductive charging leads are just under the back plastic piece. They just need to be tested with a multimeter when the battery is in place to confirm.
dancon1961 said:
I posted this up on Sprint's Forum to show that they are handicapping their new phone; thought I would post here as well.
No multiwindow capability
No Apps to SD capability
No simultaneous voice and data capability
No wireless charging capability
No GSM sim card swapability
I'll probably still get the SGN2 and will be happier when an update comes later to provide for the multiwindow capability because it is one of the things I really wanted this phone for; besides the huge screen and quad core processor.
And not being able to move apps to the sd card is a step backwards when we are moving forward with Android. What is up with that? This could become a problem for me as I usually like to load up my cell with apps.
Okay, we also lost the ability to talk on the phone while also using an app on the phone. From what I understand, it is becuase of hardware configuration wouldn't allow this.
Then the wireless charging would have been nice, but Sprint removed the contacts so we can't purchase the replacement back cover that would have given us wireless charging.
Finally, while I don't plan on traveling to other countries in the near future, you never really know, so I would have liked to have a true world phone where I can utilize SIM cards from other countries for cheaper price than what Sprint charges for international roaming. As it is, Sprint permanently hardwired their own sim into the phone. Still it does have GSM capability = $$$$
Started out really excited about the Note 2, just not as excited now. Still need to upgrade from my Epic and this seems the best choice.
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Screen record and Google wallet. Don't forget.
dancon1961 said:
I posted this up on Sprint's Forum to show that they are handicapping their new phone; thought I would post here as well.
No multiwindow capability
No Apps to SD capability
No simultaneous voice and data capability
No wireless charging capability
No GSM sim card swapability
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I knew about the last three but not the first two nor wallet or screen record. WTF? I don't understand the reasoning behind removing functionality that are determining factors to have this phone in the first place. Split screen was a huge selling point for me. Bad enough I gave up my keyboard. On screen typing just sucks, even if I can do it efficiently. Split screen was supposed to be a great way to reference from one while typing into another.
Sprint hasn't done one thing that is customer friendly ever since the iphone came to town. Policies and perks all tightened and done away with. Now phones are all gimped out with embedded batteries, embedded gsm sims and removed features. Did they take a Verizon 101 class last year?
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Disappointed for sure. Especially with the no voice and data, wtf... Cant even take a picture while on a phone call. Thats just ridiculous.
Called sprint seeing what they coukd do for me since I had an evo3d with failing digitizer and not eligible for an upgrade until May 1st...
They offered me the buy up program for 65 $ to move my upgrade date to that day. Which was November 1st. Had to sell them my 3d back (which was becoming unusable with phantom screen touches) and got 53 $ for it. Went ahead and handed over my MINT OG evo as well for 38 $ ...
First night was rough getting used to size and touchwiz. But after a full day yesterday its becoming easier to accept. And now I find out all this **** is missing that originally drew me to this in the first place.
Now im really leaning towards taking it back for the sg3. Being able to do other things while on the phone such as even just take a pic is important, or sending a text while on phone. Or a number of the listed things missinf in our sprint version for that matter.
can anyone inform me about the gs3 being able to do voice + data?
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History: I had an Evo then few months ago got the Evo3D.
I had been waiting for this phone since it was announced around Feb 2011. Now I've had it for almost 2 weeks and with the 15 day return policy I have 2 more days to keep it return. I still have my E3D and I paid $499 for this phone.
Decision Time:
Pro's:
Screen resolution, smooth scrolling, cool camera 8/10, 16GB internal plus SD, slim and light
Con's:
No NFC, touch screen not as responsive, screen size requires mostly both hands to navigate, USB pluged on computer doesn't show up (only way I found to access my GB is wifi kies), keyboard lag as I'm typing right now. I'm sure an update will fix most of the problems.
Now, Im big on tech yet I feel this phone or another phone should feed my tech thirst for atleast 6months, with no nfc I feel like I paid $499 for sexiness and looks. Had this phone NFC no doubt I wouldn't consider returning this hotness. I read ATT and Tmobile version will have nfc kinda bummer.
I'm really looking forward to using google wallet, bust out my phone type my pin and transaction paid, no CC... My delema is IF I return this, is there any other sexy phones coming to sprint equiped with NFC (nexus prime). I dont mind holding back until November bur doesnt look like anything is popping.
Totally confused, any opinions suggestions?
I don't have this phone, but looking at your cons, I would return it.
Alex1x said:
History: I had an Evo then few months ago got the Evo3D.
I had been waiting for this phone since it was announced around Feb 2011. Now I've had it for almost 2 weeks and with the 15 day return policy I have 2 more days to keep it return. I still have my E3D and I paid $499 for this phone.
Decision Time:
Pro's:
Screen resolution, smooth scrolling, cool camera 8/10, 16GB internal plus SD, slim and light
Con's:
No NFC, touch screen not as responsive, screen size requires mostly both hands to navigate, USB pluged on computer doesn't show up (only way I found to access my GB is wifi kies), keyboard lag as I'm typing right now. I'm sure an update will fix most of the problems.
Now, Im big on tech yet I feel this phone or another phone should feed my tech thirst for atleast 6months, with no nfc I feel like I paid $499 for sexiness and looks. Had this phone NFC no doubt I wouldn't consider returning this hotness. I read ATT and Tmobile version will have nfc kinda bummer.
I'm really looking forward to using google wallet, bust out my phone type my pin and transaction paid, no CC... My delema is IF I return this, is there any other sexy phones coming to sprint equiped with NFC (nexus prime). I dont mind holding back until November bur doesnt look like anything is popping.
Totally confused, any opinions suggestions?
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Evo3D doesn't have NFC either. I personally don't see any of the problems you're suffering from. My computer recognizes my phone fine, and I can transfer files to and from it, or it's SD card without using Kies. I have yet to experience keyboard lag (though I switched the keyboard because I hate swype). I also don't have a problem navigating it with one had, but that's definitely based on your hands and preference. I've also never had my touch screen not be responsive.
I had the 3D before the Epic Touch and I'm still somewhat on the fence about trading it back out for an Evo3D again. I love this phone, but I loved other things about the 3D (including the HUGE dev following it has). I'll likely end up keeping the Epic though, because I do feel it's substantially faster, and I like the bigger screen.
cashyftw said:
I don't have this phone, but looking at your cons, I would return it.
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I want to get a new phone, if I return this and willing to wait until this holiday season, what should I get or hold out on? Dont get me wrong this phone is nice. BIG plus for 16GB internal memory and Im sure most cons will be fixed with an update (too much buzz and drama for sprint and samsung to ignore).
Again if you had the choice to get this or Anything else coming out this holiday season... ????
Alex1x said:
I want to get a new phone, if I return this and willing to wait until this holiday season, what should I get or hold out on? Dont get me wrong this phone is nice. BIG plus for 16GB internal memory and Im sure most cons will be fixed with an update (too much buzz and drama for sprint and samsung to ignore).
Again if you had the choice to get this or Anything else coming out this holiday season... ????
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I'd look to the Nexus Prime, but I'm not sure on the release date yet.
I cant make up my mind. I guess I want to see what majority of members say and Ill go on that.
Lonewuhf said:
I'd look to the Nexus Prime, but I'm not sure on the release date yet.
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Not sure on a release date and I would also bet money that Verizon will probably get it first since don't have the gsII
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Bigjim1488 said:
Not sure on a release date and I would also bet money that Verizon will probably get it first since don't have the gsII
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Agreed. So... To keep or not to keep?
Alex1x said:
Agreed. So... To keep or not to keep?
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I'd keep it. Worse case you can sell it on eBay or Craigslist and pick up the prime when it comes out.
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But I would go and exchange yours because the screen shouldn't be giving you touch response issues.
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Nobody knows if the Nexus Prime will even come to Sprint. This phone is king right now so I don't know what your problem is. Splitting hairs a little too much maybe? Nothig will ever be perfect for some people. No offense. 3 months after the Prime comes out something else will be better then people will complain about that.
But if you're that unhappy stick to your E3D and return this one.
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AvatarOfFrost said:
Nobody knows if the Nexus Prime will even come to Sprint. This phone is king right now so I don't know what your problem is. Splitting hairs a little too much maybe? Nothig will ever be perfect for some people. No offense. 3 months after the Prime comes out something else will be better then people will complain about that.
But if you're that unhappy stick to your E3D and return this one.
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Sprint No NFC
ATT & Tmobile Yes NFC
Verizon nexus prime Yes NFC
NFC will rule by end of the year
NFC really? Not that big a deal right now very and I mean very few places even use it yet. Future proof sure but for the next year you'd be fine NFC lol. It will be great when it gets more mainstream. As for screen I haven't seen any screen lag either. Keyboard try another keyboard. USB plug works on PC and MAC just fine, got drivers?
pretty sure the prime isn't going to have the Exynos processor. I think the prime is going to basically be the samsung hercules for sprint with the 1.5 ghz qualcomm processor. An inferior processor. I'll see you when I'm running kernels and roms months from now trying to break the 5500 mark barrier and beyond on quadrant overclocked. This thing is raw power in the nicest package you can get it in. U want NFC go at&t and lose the screen. Sounds like you don't like the extra real estate anyways. The prime is gonna be the same screen.
Rumors say 1.5 ghz ti omap 4460.. So we don't know how good the processor will be.. And from what I read that processor was delayed until early 2012 so wit the tell knows what the prime will have now
Alex1x said:
Sprint No NFC
ATT & Tmobile Yes NFC
Verizon nexus prime Yes NFC
NFC will rule by end of the year
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There are only 150,000 locations across the entire continental United States that currently accept NFC. You do know that we don't even have the resources to install the NFC receivers even if there was demand within years yet alone a year right? NFC if it became very popular and essential for business's due to demands would take years to become widespread. At least 3 years at the very earliest. Well outside of everyone's plan agreements. I even expect a very slow start due to peoples comfort with credit card transactions and initial worry about possible security liabilities amongst the general public.
You need to enable USB Debugging if you want to be able to view the phone to show up as a USB Drive. I'm not sure about the keyboard lag and the screen has been plenty responsive for me though it's not the most responsive screen ever which isn't necessarily a bad thing.
jayv1717 said:
Rumors say 1.5 ghz ti omap 4460.. So we don't know how good the processor will be
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From what I gather the Exynos set up with it's GPU won't be matched by the 4460. The Exynos will out process the 4460 across the board. Also I read that samsung is forced to use the 4460 because it supports 42 + HSPA for t-mobile and the like. It's a weaker processor set up that supports a special kind of wireless connectivity is why samsung is forced to use it. If I'm not mistaken it will be in the t-mobile variant of the GS II so we'll have benchmarks within a matter of weeks. Now mind you, t-mobile was the only carrier not to allow access to their phone at the samsung press event. I would gather it's because their phone benchmarks lower than the sprint and att versions.
Alex1x said:
Sprint No NFC
ATT & Tmobile Yes NFC
Verizon nexus prime Yes NFC
NFC will rule by end of the year
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I want NFC myself, but you're kidding youself if you think NFC will become even popular within the next 2-3 years. I give it 5 years before it becomes kind of mainstream. Even paypass isn't full deployed yet and it has been around for more than 10 years.
The list of things this device doesnt have keeps getting longer. I could deal with the old tech resolution, no NFC... Yeah that sucks, but whatever. It's still pretty early in that game anyhow. But the thing that bugs me most is that it's looking more and more like no Rev B when Sprint upgrades its 3G network. Would have at least let the wife keep mine, but not now. Sending it back. If it turns out later the device supports Rev B and the Prime doesnt come or isn't what it's hyped up to be, I might consider picking up another GSII.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/12/07/galaxy-nexus-no-longer-launching-on-december-9/
sigh... dropping the ball. They dont want this phone on their network.
if it doesnt launch friday ill be buying something else, i'm getting sick of using my cracked thunderbolt and even more sick of waiting
I don't think they ever officially stated a day. I've thought for a while that they would release it with some clause that said no worry free guarantee exchanges for this device since a lot of people are planning on returning their razr or rezound too.. we'll see.
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I called Verizon yesterday, the 1800#, and they confirmed the 9th, so this has to be a change if true
I can't wait until this thing is released, not because I want to get it but so these threads will end.
Wait for it or buy online like most people did here
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http://www.droid-life.com/2011/12/07/galaxy-nexus-no-longer-launching-on-december-9/
sigh... dropping the ball. They dont want this phone on their network.
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Take a look through this forum. I think VZ would have to iron out all these issues before putting it up for sale. I doubt VZ is going to have thier tech support saying " oh you can just download this app to fix that issue". It's going to have to work 99%, or people will just bring it back in and swap phones. There really isn't anything so magnetic about this phone that will make a regular user say they can't part with it. Imagine 50,000 used phones, cases, screen protectors, cradles etc. I can understand a few issues with a new device, but it looks like there are quite a few.
So I guess we will just wait for the 9th and see.
this is what i know verizon has a **** load of iphone and razrs! wouldn't you try and get the most out of your inventory? i wouldn't want to price cut just to sell if i didn't have to, or at least prolong a long as possible
Verizon sucks. that's why I left them after 10+ years. They are like the Apple of cell carriers. Need to control every aspect.
So now they aren't releasing the Gnex cause their 4G LTE is crapping the bed... Seems their LTE service has all kinds of issues with each new phone that is released to it.
Luxferro said:
Verizon sucks. that's why I left them after 10+ years. They are like the Apple of cell carriers. Need to control every aspect.
So now they aren't releasing the Gnex cause their 4G LTE is crapping the bed... Seems their LTE service has all kinds of issues with each new phone that is released to it.
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They may control every aspect, but it sure does pay off for them and their subscribers, doesn't it?
Consumer Reports: Verizon has highest satisfaction rate among major US carriers, AT&T is lowest
I'm pissed!!! I'm shipping out my G2x Friday and thus wont have a phone until they get off their ass.
The phones are sitting in their stores. Its a little too late.
Verizon usually releases phones on Fridays? So of it misses this Friday, it won't be available until next Friday?
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV
randypurcz said:
Take a look through this forum. I think VZ would have to iron out all these issues before putting it up for sale. I doubt VZ is going to have thier tech support saying " oh you can just download this app to fix that issue". It's going to have to work 99%, or people will just bring it back in and swap phones. There really isn't anything so magnetic about this phone that will make a regular user say they can't part with it. Imagine 50,000 used phones, cases, screen protectors, cradles etc. I can understand a few issues with a new device, but it looks like there are quite a few.
So I guess we will just wait for the 9th and see.
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Do you seriously think Verizon will iron out anything?
Have you used a droid bionic? The phone is total garbage, riddled with bugs, and had plenty of Verizon and Motorola "testing time."
They will release it eventually and it will be full of plenty of bugs they missed. Who knows what the hell they're doing.
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They may control every aspect, but it sure does pay off for them and their subscribers, doesn't it?
Consumer Reports: Verizon has highest satisfaction rate among major US carriers, AT&T is lowest
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Well I will agree on one thing. Their cell reception is the best.
But I can't deal with their arrogance, and pricing. At the time the OG Droid launched (I got mine on first day), they said they were changing their style... going to be more open with regard to their phones. After the OG Droid was a huge success for both Verizon and Android, they pretty much went back to their old ways.
Now they are releasing their 2nd pure google phone. And they are dragging their feet with the release. Probably making google changed certain aspects of it, making it more closed then the GSM version.
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Well I will agree on one thing. Their cell reception is the best.
But I can't deal with their arrogance, and pricing. At the time the OG Droid launched (I got mine on first day), they said they were changing their style... going to be more open with regard to their phones. After the OG Droid was a huge success for both Verizon and Android, they pretty much went back to their old ways.
Now they are releasing their 2nd pure google phone. And they are dragging their feet with the release. Probably making google changed certain aspects of it, making it more closed then the GSM version.
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I'll agree that the pricing is outrageous, but until someone with an equal or better network (see: competition) comes along, Verizon will be the status quo as far as high quality networks are concerned.
I don't think the latest delay has anything to do with the Nexus as much as it has to do with the overall network from a QoS standpoint. As a network technician myself, I can tell you that the issues being described with LTE SIM Card Authentication warrant a "freeze" until the problem is rectified. Why introduce a large amount of new devices onto the network without resolving the problem first?
Was just in a Verizon store buying a case for my GSM nexus. Guy said they had the phones in store but got an email a couple hours ago that it was no longer being released on Friday. Didn't have any details but seems like the article posted was true.
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anyone know of any on-going discussion groups who are following the LTE issue?
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anyone know of any on-going discussion groups who are following the LTE issue?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=104418010
Funny I went looking for release dates. Mondays and Thursdays seem pretty common for Verizon. Also funny is the original 11/21 release date (I'm sure it was even earlier then that).
You know I've been on both sides. Push the release date until it's ready and people complain. Release the phone before its ready and people complain. Coming from a LG G2x, I can honestly say releasing the phone before it was ready was good for me but not for the population as a whole. The negative feedback it received as a "faulty device" forever scarred its name.
eallan said:
Do you seriously think Verizon will iron out anything?
Have you used a droid bionic? The phone is total garbage, riddled with bugs, and had plenty of Verizon and Motorola "testing time."
They will release it eventually and it will be full of plenty of bugs they missed. Who knows what the hell they're doing.
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Motorola isn't exactly known for making phones that aren't riddled with bugs.....
This sounds more like something with Verizon's LTE network and not something to do specifically with the phones themselves.
RVDigital said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=104418010
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thanks!
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termleech said:
Was just in a Verizon store buying a case for my GSM nexus. Guy said they had the phones in store but got an email a couple hours ago that it was no longer being released on Friday. Didn't have any details but seems like the article posted was true.
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Sigh... its pointless waiting for this phone.
I've read on a few sites (most notably, gsmarena) that our glides have NFC. Can anyone confirm this? Might have to start using google wallet if it's true once we get ICS
I really hope it does, as that's part of the reason I bought it. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to confirm. It's either A)Included in hardware but no driver/software is there to run/enable it, or B) Was going to be included, and then wasn't for some reason. I'm hoping A, though, because if you go to Samsung's website for the Capitvate Glide Support, you see "How Do I Use NFC On My AT&T Samsung CAPTIVATE™ GLIDE (SGH-i927) Mobile Device?" under the Support FAQs, but the link doesn't go to any page. Considering that that site didn't have anything for the phone until a little while ago, and it's theirs, I'm keeping my fingers crossed....
Can anyone else give some input?
Could this work on our Glide and be the answer ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1545751
Thread refers to NFC feature not actived on AT&T devices ... Glide is an "AT&T" device.
As much as I love the development scene, AT&T could be releasing ICS any day, so may as well wait and see. It should be included in ICS (I would imagine, since it is on every other phone I've seen with NFC). I was offered to trade for an Evo 3d, but this phone just keeps impressing me more and more.
We'll just see how fast they can push out the updates, although I'm relieved we were on the list "in the following months" :|
I am not sure but I thought the glide did not have it and only a version that was supposed to be released in Europe would. I have no idea if this is true but what I recall hearing. Also I heard that you could change your sim and get NFC when it becomes wide spread. This way any phone could get NFC via the sim card.
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I am not sure but I thought the glide did not have it and only a version that was supposed to be released in Europe would. I have no idea if this is true but what I recall hearing. Also I heard that you could change your sim and get NFC when it becomes wide spread. This way any phone could get NFC via the sim card.
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Would someone smarter than me take a look at the FCC site here: https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas...e=N&application_id=658474&fcc_id='A3LSGHI927'
And see if it shows anything that indicates NFC or NFC compatibility?
are you guys kidding, right?
Yes, glide has NFC i ts BUILD IN the battery cover, how is nobody look at it, and the nfc beam its under de sim card, it shows up easily.
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Yes, glide has NFC i ts BUILD IN the battery cover, how is nobody look at it, and the nfc beam its under de sim card, it shows up easily.
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Uuuuuum. I'm about 95% certain this is false. Were the chip on the battery cover, there would have to be some kind of connection (most likely copper leads) to the phone itself. All I see on my battery door is a black sticker over the area that would cover the SIM card and MicroSD slot. No connection whatsoever. On top of that, the battery door seems much to thin to have an NFC chip incorporated on it.
As far as under the SIM card, all I see is the SIM card leads.
That thread on the Galaxy Note actually having NFC is due to the fact that AT&T disabled it on a software level. The hardware was all still there. The AT&T Galaxy Note's battery door still had an NFC chip and leads. Since the Captivate Glide is lacking that hardware, I doubt using that method would do anything. The one exception to this would be if the Captivate Glide has the NFC chip somewhere on the motherboard. I sort of doubt this, though, since I imagine someone would have noticed it before.
Will a nfc sim card in the future from att work for our captivate glide?
It's not in the SIM card.
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Will a nfc sim card in the future from att work for our captivate glide?
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As you are asking about something in the future no one really knows, but the concept is that SIM NFC should work for all phones. Guess only time will tell if this is so.
I'm on rogers and on the inception rom and I can see that nfc ia available under wifi/data settings but I am not able to activate it...I installed the new ics rom but wasn't able to find it on there
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I'm on rogers and on the inception rom and I can see that nfc ia available under wifi/data settings but I am not able to activate it...I installed the new ics rom but wasn't able to find it on there
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Orange France has deployed NFC SIM cards to all its users. Hopefully someday AT&T will do the same. Otherwise, the Moneto is a 1 GB sd card with NFC but they are entirely sold out right now.
I thought moneto doesn't work with metal sd card slots. Which is what we have on our phones.
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Unfortunately, I doubt it. Otherwise I am happy to be proven wrong - I ran the NFC checker, it said no NFC. And you guys ought take gsmarena's comments on SGH-I927 with a grain of salt, they often get specification wrong (I don't know if it's intentional or not).
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EDIT: NVM, I will be trying the NFC hack soon, hopefully ICS isn't going to have the seizure issue.
EDIT 2: ICS didn't crash (had to copy the tweak manually), and if it's PROVEN to have the NFC RF controller, then I guess with ICS there's no way to use it (AT&T intentionally removed the HAL for this thing - which mean even if NFC have the driver aside, it's disabled by other means).
EDIT 3 (and last one!): I finally copied the Google NFC manager to its rightful place correctly, and the NFC checker said SGH-I927 have it - I need to find a way to add the NFC settings in ICS (am using LiteROM) so I can turn this thing on.
Almost there, trying to piece the puzzle into the NFC support for SGH-I927(R) phones. I will need to find the correct driver (had to use few Gingerbread HAL files), then we're good.
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Now this is some serious development, kudos to you Dr. Mario !
Whoaa,that's cool man I wish u the best on activating it
Morotola Milestone 2... I'm looking to buy Samsung Captative Glide i927, the sub forum is a lot more active and there are plenty of diferent roms to choose from.
Is it a worthy upgrade from a MM2?
Thank you.
Depending on your radio requirements, you should consider the Relay 4G. Its only downside over the Glide is its 4G isn't compatible with AT&T (but it's fully quad-band EDGE/UMTS), and the community just took off like a rocket this month.
I'll ride my Glide until it can't run the newest Android comfortably anymore, but if I was buying now, without a doubt in my mind, I'd get an unlocked Relay.
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Depending on your radio requirements, you should consider the Relay 4G. Its only downside over the Glide is its 4G isn't compatible with AT&T (but it's fully quad-band EDGE/UMTS), and the community just took off like a rocket this month.
I'll ride my Glide until it can't run the newest Android comfortably anymore, but if I was buying now, without a doubt in my mind, I'd get an unlocked Relay.
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I'm from Argentina, I will look up what bands the carrier use here. Thank you, Relay 4G seems a strong candidate in my book, too bad I can't get it here via normal means, that is something I have to deal with down here, the choices are really non existant, that is why I'm also looking for someone or some business to get me one from USA.
Can I ask you some questions about your Glide? Because this one I can get it in Argentina, for about 450-475 USD, brand new in box, unlocked.
Edit1: the Relay 4G is a beast of a phone (dualcorewise), but dang it! the OLED is a pentile matrix
Still my account is not activated, I have to wait 5 min even to edit.
Edit2: neverming, I've just read the forum help.
Edit3: What is you opinion/feeling on the i927 Forums and development of ROMS? Still ongoing? Stuck? Dying?
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I'm from Argentina, I will look up what bands the carrier use here. Thank you, Relay 4G seems a strong candidate in my book, too bad I can't get it here via normal means, that is something I have to deal with down here, the choices are really non existant, that is why I'm also looking for someone or some business to get me one from USA.
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If your carrier doesn't even offer HSPA+ specifically (I don't know the situation in your country), I wouldn't even bother. Both Glide and Relay will operate 3G in all four bands used in the US, and neither are LTE capable. If one won't work, neither will the other.
As for procurement: you may find someone on eBay US that will ship internationally. They may request some payment method other than Paypal (due to Paypal/eBay's reputation of siding with the buyer even when said buyer is very obviously and blatantly in the wrong). It's up to you whether the hassle (+exchange rate) is worth it.
Can I ask you some questions about your Glide?
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Protip: never ask to ask, just ask. No one thinks it's rude, and even if the person doesn't get back to you, others may chime in.
Edit1: the Relay 4G is a beast of a phone (dualcorewise), but dang it! the OLED is a pentile matrix
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Glide is also pentile, and a very obvious pentile at that (red has a plainly visible pattern). Looking at the specs, it's very likely the Relay and Glide have the exact same screen.
Edit3: What is you opinion/feeling on the i927 Forums and development of ROMS? Still ongoing? Stuck? Dying?
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It's been aggravatingly slow since forever, and has cooled a bit but she's not dead yet. Relay is definitely more active right now. The fact that the Glide's SoC is rather exotic (the Tegra 2 specifically is freakin' WEIRD) and a pain to develop for hasn't helped any. That said, what we have right now is still pretty recent and is above and beyond DD quality (where the Relay ROMs have just gotten off the ground and still have some glaring issues).
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Speaking of LTE... if that's what you need, look at the Stratosphere II. Yes, it's VZW which is CDMA, but it's an international device meaning it also has a GSM radio, and supports all common LTE bands instead of just whatever VZW uses.
That said, you'd be taking a serious gamble in the ROM dev department -- as of this moment we know NOTHING about the bootloader (it's not even rooted yet) leave alone what nasty surprises there could be waiting for us once we can flash it. And VZW has been by far the worst about bootloaders.
well...
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If your carrier doesn't even offer HSPA+ specifically (I don't know the situation in your country), I wouldn't even bother. Both Glide and Relay will operate 3G in all four bands used in the US, and neither are LTE capable. If one won't work, neither will the other.
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I think they do not even do HSPA+, but even so, I'm not in need of H+ or LTE/4G speeds, my plan only has 512mb/month and I'm barely using half of it, I do not travel a lot, I do comute a lot, and the rest of the time I have WiFi access (I work at IT), so there is that. I'm happy with the 4mb/1mb I get with the 3G, I mostly need it to check mails, be online, Skype, access some servers via RDP and reddit.
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As for procurement: you may find someone on eBay US that will ship internationally. They may request some payment method other than Paypal (due to Paypal/eBay's reputation of siding with the buyer even when said buyer is very obviously and blatantly in the wrong). It's up to you whether the hassle (+exchange rate) is worth it.
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Seeing that the Motorola Photon Q LTE has the SIM card soldered, I will try to see about the MM4. But yeah, I have to see if the hassle, and the waiting times are worth it to me, I had the MM2 for 13 months now, before that I have the Samsung Galaxy Spica (really really low end phone) but made me fell in love with Android.
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Will do, thank you.
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Glide is also pentile, and a very obvious pentile at that (red has a plainly visible pattern). Looking at the specs, it's very likely the Relay and Glide have the exact same screen.
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Crap, in the MM2 I dont even see the pixels (it is a 3.7" screen with 852*480). I tried to google some screen reviews of the Glide but found nothing, that bad is it? I wish I could see it before buying it...
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It's been aggravatingly slow since forever, and has cooled a bit but she's not dead yet. Relay is definitely more active right now. The fact that the Glide's SoC is rather exotic (the Tegra 2 specifically is freakin' WEIRD) and a pain to develop for hasn't helped any. That said, what we have right now is still pretty recent and is above and beyond DD quality (where the Relay ROMs have just gotten off the ground and still have some glaring issues).
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As long there are some cool CM ROMs I'm up for it. The fact is that with my MM2 there are only 4, CM7.1 is totally dead, there is MS2GINGER (which I rather not) and CM10/10.1 which are painfully slow on my device. That is why I recon it is time to change, also I bought it used, so it was an old model when I bought it. I'm poor, and the prices are insane.
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That said, you'd be taking a serious gamble in the ROM dev department -- as of this moment we know NOTHING about the bootloader (it's not even rooted yet) leave alone what nasty surprises there could be waiting for us once we can flash it. And VZW has been by far the worst about bootloaders.
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I think I will keep researching and trying to cool off myself, I was about to pull the trigger on the Glide, but the pentile and 4row keyboard got me thinking, I has stuff that I like/want (1gb RAM, dual core, slide Keyboard) and stuff that I dont, pentile matrix and 4row keyboard. (mm2 also has 4 row keyboard, but I want an upgrade on everything if I'm putting a lotta money on it).
Would you recommend the Glide if the year were 2011/2?
Bottom line, I cant decide yet it seems. Thank you.
edit1: I'm about to pull the trigger on the Glide (it is theRogers version, so that makes it an i927R, that $2900[pesos] are about 467 USD official price or about 350usd black market us dollar price [black market dollar is abut 67% more than official one, the country is in the ****, dont be mistaken, is more than a half month salary of mine.), I've contacted the seller, and awaiting his/her reply.
Besides the pentile screen, on how bad could it be, how flat are the keys? are they totally flat? the action is clicky, springy or rubbery?
Thx again.
xtacb4, I'm from Argentina, and I have a Glide since the early days on 2012, if you want, you can add me on Skype with the same username as here on XDA.
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xtacb4, I'm from Argentina, and I have a Glide since the early days on 2012, if you want, you can add me on Skype with the same username as here on XDA.
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Development on the GLide has slowed to a crawl. No disrespect to the developers they are the best but most have now moved away from the Glide which is now almost a 2 year old phone. I love my Glide but I am envious of all the new Phones coming out with larger displays, LTE and now even IR. Wish I could control my TV with my Glide without need for any other attachment or computer. Our GLide is still one of the best Hardware Keyboard devices but the bad battery drain that makes me have to add an oversize battery making it look like a phone from 5 years ago. We will never get an official JB from our carriers as they have dropped support for our phone already. As for JB from our developers it is promising but unfortunately Bluetooth headset profile is not working or very flaking that makes it not a viable solution especially for those of us that live in areas where it is ilegal to hold your handset and drive.
My recommendation is get the GLide if it is very cheap as it is still a decent phone, but if you can shell out a little more cash get something newer with more support from it's carrier and more people on it in the XDA community.
JB
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Development on the GLide has slowed to a crawl. No disrespect to the developers they are the best but most have now moved away from the Glide which is now almost a 2 year old phone. I love my Glide but I am envious of all the new Phones coming out with larger displays, LTE and now even IR. Wish I could control my TV with my Glide without need for any other attachment or computer. Our GLide is still one of the best Hardware Keyboard devices but the bad battery drain that makes me have to add an oversize battery making it look like a phone from 5 years ago. We will never get an official JB from our carriers as they have dropped support for our phone already. As for JB from our developers it is promising but unfortunately Bluetooth headset profile is not working or very flaking that makes it not a viable solution especially for those of us that live in areas where it is ilegal to hold your handset and drive.
My recommendation is get the GLide if it is very cheap as it is still a decent phone, but if you can shell out a little more cash get something newer with more support from it's carrier and more people on it in the XDA community.
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Sorry, but, I need to ask, why are you quoting me ?
Sorry Santi....My mistake meant to hit Quick reply and quoted you by accident. My apologies again, no disrespect intended.
JB
Well I pulled the trigger on the Glide, and I could not be happiers, it is a superb phone, yes, old, but here we are like 5 years behind everything, so net I'm an 2 years ahead
Thank you everyone and specially santimaster2000.
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Sorry Santi....My mistake meant to hit Quick reply and quoted you by accident. My apologies again, no disrespect intended.
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No problem.
xtacb4 said:
Well I pulled the trigger on the Glide, and I could not be happiers, it is a superb phone, yes, old, but here we are like 5 years behind everything, so net I'm an 2 years ahead
Thank you everyone and specially santimaster2000.
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Hey, we live in the same country and speak the same language, helping you to choose the best Qwerty Phone was almost my responsability.
Also, I may have to rape you later
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...Also, I may have to rape you later
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I'm still waiting...oh wait, I plowed you on bf3
xtacb4 said:
I'm still waiting...oh wait, I plowed you on bf3
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Pretty sure I've killed you more times than you did to me, a lot more times !
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Pretty sure I've killed you more times than you did to me, a lot more times !
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They took Sure to jail.
last android with keyboard: SAMSUNG strathospere II and LG mach (booth dual core 1.2ghz 1gb RAM and 5mpx rear camera), I still prefer my captivate glide but its gettin too old now...(sorry for my english i speak spanish...)
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last android with keyboard: SAMSUNG strathospere II and LG mach (booth dual core 1.2ghz 1gb RAM and 5mpx rear camera), I still prefer my captivate glide but its gettin too old now...(sorry for my english i speak spanish...)
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No reason to change unless they release a quad core qwerty phone w/ JB stock.
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No reason to change unless they release a quad core qwerty phone w/ JB stock.
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Exactly !
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Exactly !
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+1
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I'm still waiting...oh wait, I plowed you on bf3
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Pretty sure I've killed you more times than you did to me, a lot more times !
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+1
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Hey I too play BF3 add me on Origin same name DudeJB.
See you on the battlefield!
What are your account names?
JB
Talking about going offtopic... I'm not really playing Bf3 right now, that was the last time i even played, I somewhat switched to SC2, til i get bored and switch again.
Where should I report that with CM10.1 M3 (M2 too) my Morotola S305 BT headset has music and controls working ok? no phone audio though.
I find it so mind boggling that after checking these forums daily since the phone was released there is still no (permanent) root for this phone. Am I wrong for thinking this? With all the brains and experience out there you would think something would have happened by now. I seriously think there is a permanent root solution out there and it's being kept a secret from the rest of us. Sorry for ranting, I have no one else to explain my frustration to besides the people here. Have a nice day.
I hear ya, which is why I am going to sell my Note4 and get another phone. No more Samsung Android phones for me unless i change to T-Mobile which will never happen due to lack of reception at my house.
I'm switching to T-Mobile and sticking with LG once this contract is up, at&t and Samsung can go fly a kite.
You could sell yours and get an unlocked t-mobile version. I am frustrated too, but the only solution at this point is to be proactive. Peace!
Yeah I'm not doing a Samsung phone again.. sure it may have the best screen and what not, but I'll gladly take up to date android OS/root/recovery over that. You could sell your note 4 for about 350, then ebay a t-mobile version, or put in another 100 and get the new nexus or moto x pure
Yeah I'll see what T-Mobile can do for me to switch, I've read they will pay up to $300 for your phone and up to $350 for early termination fees in the form of a credit if you switch, Not too bad of a deal. AT&T if you're reading this, double middle fingers to you assholes.
Hate to add to the same type of replies however I can't agree more with all of you. Not just about root either. Updates come to us so slow and this device has always had slightly more lag then my s4. Pretty sure i'm either going straight to the source with the Nexus line or switching over to iOS. I'll miss the spen but at least the current Nexus phone has AMOLED.
I am with ya too. Once my contract on my At&t Note 4 is up in 2017. I am thinking about switching to whatever Nexus device is out, or a budge device like the OnePlus or Moto G, so I could root it or customize it as I choose.
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Anyone going to try Google FI? Or any phone recommendations?
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Anyone going to try Google FI? Or any phone recommendations?
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It's probably going to be so limited to a few major cities for quite a long time. If the price makes sense and the quality is there then absolutely. Building an entire mobile network that is capable of reaching 99% of the country is extremely expensive and time consuming. The 4 major carriers have been working on it for 20 years and they are still building towers like crazy.
As for phone recommendations, I recommend looking at all the variables in the equation and make your decision accordingly. For me, checking to see if root has any progress or is already available is at the top of my list, followed by the device itself. To sum it up, some phones aren't very practical (nexus 6) but they excel in **** that matters to me (first to get system updates and easily rootable).
Thanks!
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It's probably going to be so limited to a few major cities for quite a long time. If the price makes sense and the quality is there then absolutely. Building an entire mobile network that is capable of reaching 99% of the country is extremely expensive and time consuming. The 4 major carriers have been working on it for 20 years and they are still building towers like crazy.
As for phone recommendations, I recommend looking at all the variables in the equation and make your decision accordingly. For me, checking to see if root has any progress or is already available is at the top of my list, followed by the device itself. To sum it up, some phones aren't very practical (nexus 6) but they excel in **** that matters to me (first to get system updates and easily rootable).
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I will never get sucked into the samsung hype ever again. This phone has generally received good reviews since day one, and I honestly have hated it since the day I obtained it. I had an S4 before this note 4, and I have to say that I hated that phone too. The hardware is awesome, and the software is sub-par bull poo poo. Every samsung phone I have ever had has had problems. Namely with the GPS, among other things, but I think any problem I have ever had with a samsung phone could have been solved with custom firmware. I know this is as much, or more so, a carrier issue as well as a manufacturer issue. The manufacturer puts crap software on the device, then the carrier locks it down so that you are stuck with it. The note 5 looks flashy as hell, but I will not get sucked in again! C'mon Nexus!!
Isn't the Note 5 already rooted with working TWRP? I don't understand how that phone could be rooted so fast and the Note4 will never be.
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Isn't the Note 5 already rooted with working TWRP? I don't understand how that phone could be rooted so fast and the Note4 will never be.
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That is the t-mobile, sprint, international versions; all have an unlocked bootloader. The Verizon and att versions have a locked bootloader with a sha-256 key. If you read the att version does not boot if tried to root.
Even without perma-root (or root at all for those on LP like myself), this is still a darn good phone. Shame I can't use my gamepad properly, but at least I've only a year left before I can go for something else. Honestly, even with a chance of never getting root, I'd still get a Note 6 (when that comes, I mean).
That new nexus 6p is where I'm heading. Samsung really screwed us :/. On my note 2 I ran pure stock android because it's smooth as hell! I have to be stuck with Samsung's nonsense running the background with the note 4... Can't wait for the nexus 6p to drop. I'll be first in line!
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That new nexus 6p is where I'm heading. Samsung really screwed us :/. On my note 2 I ran pure stock android because it's smooth as hell! I have to be stuck with Samsung's nonsense running the background with the note 4... Can't wait for the nexus 6p to drop. I'll be first in line!
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Not Samsung, AT&T and Verizon are who is screwing you. They made the choice to lock everything down for more profits.
I finally gave up and sold my AT&T Note 4 for a T-Mobile variant. The difference is night and day, I was having severe battery drain, and normally would be <20% by the end of the day today, for the first time I haven't had to charge my phone overnight, and the battery is still at 65%. It drained 1% overnight for 8 hours.
Custom ROM and Kernels make a HUGE difference. Now I don't have to keep power saving mode on, which also increased lag and I can actually go a day without having to charge my phone and I get all the other benefits of root. Definitely will not buy another Samsung phone with a locked bootloader, I was getting ready to switch to an iPhone because I was so unhappy with the Note 4 performance and battery life.
I am on the ATT next program. Do I have to pay off phone before I sell it?
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Not Samsung, AT&T and Verizon are who is screwing you. They made the choice to lock everything down for more profits.
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What I meant to say was. Samsung also screwed us with the note 5.. They let their customers know they are headed into the iLame direction. I left apple after 4 years because it lacked tons of features. I'm assuming Samsung will drop the s pen on the note 6 and turn it into a $99 Samsung Pencil that you will have to buy on the side by the looks of it hahaha.