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[Q] NFC Chip

I'm a bit confused. What exactly does this NFC chip do? What can I use it for on the daily? What apps are recommended for the chip?

right now nothing useful
after ICS 4.0 then we actually get to use it more often

Not 100% sure, but it might be useful for the latest version of Paypal. It seems to support NFC for transfers between friends.
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NFC (Near Field Communications) will allow you to pay for items via your phone instead of your wallet. Many foreign countries have already accepted their phones as credit cards replacements; Japan for example.
But, it does more than just pay for items. QR codes that we just started using, requires you to use the camera and it will bring you to a site or direct you to an advertisement. With NFC, you can simply hold your phone to an advertisement (that is NFC capable) and it will divert you to site/advertisement. If you are in the U.S, you can go to your nearest T-Mobile store and they should have a NFC sticker you can try it out on.

but in North America, we barely have any place that is actually using it for mainstream
it's such a rare view to ever see or find anything with a NFC tag to scan

We are still catching up. I hear in Japan you can walk up to a soda machine and buy a soda with your phone.
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...rt-tablet-support-ui-design-changes-and-more/

AllGamer said:
but in North America, we barely have any place that is actually using it for mainstream
it's such a rare view to ever see or find anything with a NFC tag to scan
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Yeah, it's understandable why though. We are way behind in terms of technology compared to other countries. Just about 6 years ago, we didn't even have 3G yet, but we are slowly catching up.
NFC is not garnering alot of attention because Americans are so afraid of the consequences of such technology. They are worried about people stealing information through NFC or hacking their accounts through NFC, but many don't understand that it is much easier to pick pocket your wallet or rob you than it is to hack your phone to steal your accounts.
Hopefully we'll catch up soon though Google Wallet is currently testing NFC in various markets and offering a 10$ credit for you to buy anything in the store they are testing it in.

I think people don't realize is they have been using NFC for years with Paypass, now Paywave, and now Interac Flash is coming out based on the same tech.
Gas stations have been using it too like Petro Canada ... actually most places I've been too here in Canada have NFC pay terminals so we just need Google Wallet to be available here and we can go nuts.

I don't think that's NFC, the ones that are used in Credit cards are RFID.

Sorry if this seems like a dumb question, but something I was curious about...
Though it's still in the "anticipated" technology phase, there's a lot of buzz regarding NFC with various review sites praising or criticizing newly released phones for the inclusion or lack of NFC respectively.
NFC, like any other communications technology, needs both the hardware and software to control it, right? Our SGS2's seem to have the NFC "chips" (not sure what the appropriate term for the hardware is) in the battery (not just based on what's written on the battery, but what the T-Mo SGS2 manual indicates).
Based on this, couldn't any phone out there with a user-replaceable battery (read: any non-Apple phone) be pretty easily upgradable with a replacement battery pack and firmware update in the future? If that's the case, it doesn't seem like so much should be read into whether a phone launches with NFC capability or not.
But like I said, I don't know much about the technical aspects, so I might just sound like a moron.

floot_roops said:
Sorry if this seems like a dumb question, but something I was curious about...
Though it's still in the "anticipated" technology phase, there's a lot of buzz regarding NFC with various review sites praising or criticizing newly released phones for the inclusion or lack of NFC respectively.
NFC, like any other communications technology, needs both the hardware and software to control it, right? Our SGS2's seem to have the NFC "chips" (not sure what the appropriate term for the hardware is) in the battery (not just based on what's written on the battery, but what the T-Mo SGS2 manual indicates).
Based on this, couldn't any phone out there with a user-replaceable battery (read: any non-Apple phone) be pretty easily upgradable with a replacement battery pack and firmware update in the future? If that's the case, it doesn't seem like so much should be read into whether a phone launches with NFC capability or not.
But like I said, I don't know much about the technical aspects, so I might just sound like a moron.
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The NFC chip requires it to be integrated into the phone in order for it to work. The NFC on the battery most likely states that it is optimized for NFC, I don't think there is a NFC chip inside the battery.

There are already 2-3 threads discussing NFC in this forum. One of them includes some fairly detailed testing about what is working atm.
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DyingBlade said:
The NFC chip requires it to be integrated into the phone in order for it to work. The NFC on the battery most likely states that it is optimized for NFC, I don't think there is a NFC chip inside the battery.
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if you replace the battery with another one that does not have NFC, your NFC option will get greyed out in Settings
so they battery might not be the NFC chip itself, but might very well behave like the antennae as found on the Nexus S battery door

I didn't know if I should start a new trad or ask here, but didn't want to clutter the forum.
So I'm seeing that they are making a big deal with the Galaxy Nexus for Verizon on not having Google Wallet in it.
My question is-
Is it part of ICS?
If not any idea of when it will be release?
Will it work on our phones since it has a NFC chip?
Not that there is alot of places to use it at, but it would be fun to have for the few places to show off, lol.

Wallet doesn't seem like part of ICS
already played with ICS on many devices, and don't see wallet included
you can always install the hacked version manually
yes it works

Link please
Powered by the SGSII....

last i saw it, it was on the Nexus S forum

the new Facebook app suppose to support tap to add friend with NFC, but I don't have any friend with NFC to try with.

AllGamer said:
last i saw it, it was on the Nexus S forum
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Ok thanks, Ill take a look.
Powered by the SGSII....

Is it at all possible to use the NFC to emulate RFID cards?

One of the main selling points of the Galaxy Nexus for me is NFC. Contactless payments are starting to pop up everywhere here in London, and when Apple releases an NFC-enabled phone I'm sure progress will be increased massively.
Anyways, my question is whether it is possible to use the NFC of the Nexus to scan my RFID building entry card, save the details as a profile and then emulate the card in order to get me into the building using just my phone?
Is there any software like this? Would it even be ethically sound to release such software?

From my understanding, this is possible. However, I would imagine the data on your building entry card would have some sort of encryption.

WhiterThanWhite said:
One of the main selling points of the Galaxy Nexus for me is NFC. Contactless payments are starting to pop up everywhere here in London, and when Apple releases an NFC-enabled phone I'm sure progress will be increased massively.
Anyways, my question is whether it is possible to use the NFC of the Nexus to scan my RFID building entry card, save the details as a profile and then emulate the card in order to get me into the building using just my phone?
Is there any software like this? Would it even be ethically sound to release such software?
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Card emulation is not part of the SDK and not currently available.
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Gutted. Would have been handy
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It's not possible for a very simple reason Nexus or any other NFC enabled phone cannot read a Visa PayWave or Mastercard PayPass card just like that. They are encrypted and they will transmit the decrypted information only after receiving correct signal from an authorized terminal. I tried it with my Visa PayWave card and all apps are tried say that it's encrypted and they cannot read it. Then I did some research and it turns out that it can only be read by an authorized reader, which makes a lot of sense for security reasons. So to enable NFC payments your bank would need to create an application for the phone,which would emulate the card, just like Google Wallet does. You can't just read a card and use it.
Btw yes you can use the Google Wallet on the Galaxy nexus,and pay with either the Google pre-paid card or you can register a City card if you are in the US and you happen to have one

krohnjw said:
Card emulation is not part of the SDK and not currently available.
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Damn, that sucks!

gambiting said:
It's not possible for a very simple reason Nexus or any other NFC enabled phone cannot read a Visa PayWave or Mastercard PayPass card just like that. They are encrypted and they will transmit the decrypted information only after receiving correct signal from an authorized terminal. I tried it with my Visa PayWave card and all apps are tried say that it's encrypted and they cannot read it. Then I did some research and it turns out that it can only be read by an authorized reader, which makes a lot of sense for security reasons. So to enable NFC payments your bank would need to create an application for the phone,which would emulate the card, just like Google Wallet does. You can't just read a card and use it.
Btw yes you can use the Google Wallet on the Galaxy nexus,and pay with either the Google pre-paid card or you can register a City card if you are in the US and you happen to have one
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Pst. That's not what he asked
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I'd like the same thing. Being able to use my phone to open the doors at work would be fantastic.

hotleadsingerguy said:
I'd like the same thing. Being able to use my phone to open the doors at work would be fantastic.
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I hope you didnt mean physically. And no i would not like those encrypted badges with the capability to be on my phone. Consumers have given enough power as is to corporations. I dont need X corporation having legal rights to track my whereabouts every breath i take becuse their encryption is on my personal OR work phone. No dice.
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None of the NFC reader apps that I have tried to use on my Galaxy Nexus can read my smartcards (office doors, public transport card etc). It's a shame ICS doesn't support it but at least now I know why it hasn't been working.
The Samsung Galaxy S2 currently has that. My colleagues use their SG2s to open doors and pay at the office canteen. They can also use them to pay on the public transport system. I presume the NFC smartard emulation is a feature currently in Gingerbread that will eventually come to ICS.
The update that will eventually push ICS to the SG2 must contain NFC smartcard emulation otherwise the users will lose this existing feature.

pukemon said:
I hope you didnt mean physically. And no i would not like those encrypted badges with the capability to be on my phone. Consumers have given enough power as is to corporations. I dont need X corporation having legal rights to track my whereabouts every breath i take becuse their encryption is on my personal OR work phone. No dice.
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What on Earth are you talking about? Give power to corporations? Take your liberal soapbox to another forum, plz.
I'm talking about at *MY* work. All of the doors except the front are locked on our building during business hours. The only way to unlock them is to use an employee badge, which utilizes an RFID tag. Being able to have that tag stored on my phone would be an immense help, since I wouldn't have to remember to take my badge out of the car. I can't tell you how many times I've walked across the parking lot before realizing I left the badge in my car.

samizad said:
None of the NFC reader apps that I have tried to use on my Galaxy Nexus can read my smartcards (office doors, public transport card etc). It's a shame ICS doesn't support it but at least now I know why it hasn't been working.
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This depends entirely on the card itself and how it's encoded. Most likely it's an RFID tag that is either not HF (13.56 Mhz) or it's not using the Standard/NDEF read/write keys (in the case of the Mifare tags).
samizad said:
The Samsung Galaxy S2 currently has that. My colleagues use their SG2s to open doors and pay at the office canteen. They can also use them to pay on the public transport system. I presume the NFC smartard emulation is a feature currently in Gingerbread that will eventually come to ICS.
The update that will eventually push ICS to the SG2 must contain NFC smartcard emulation otherwise the users will lose this existing feature.
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Gingerbread doesn't do card emulation either. Google has stated in their NFC talks that there are various reasons NFC Card emulation isn't present - one being a lack of a standard.
If it's done on the SII then it's either an addition within the Touchwiz frameworkork (addition of known communication protocols and local storage of card info) or the tags they are using are NDEF (in which case NDEF Push works fine).

Exactly what im talking about. Do you thonk your building management or x corporation is going to say suuuure let us put that on your phone so easily and skip all the other security that needs to go along with that now since it is now digitally accessible on an easy to hack phone? Get a grip. I have 4 badges and about 30+ keys and and about 15 elevator access keys. If a badge or certain key is lost you gotta thrlugh procedures. Hopefully nothing that involves gloves but still. If a certain key is lost all the locks gotta get changed if a badge is lost or cloned, a badge can be deactivated but if theyre constantly being cloned, manipulated or bypassed then other/greater security measures have to be used or taken out. So no i dont want a stinking badge on any of my phones.
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krohnjw said:
If it's done on the SII then it's either an addition within the Touchwiz frameworkork (addition of known communication protocols and local storage of card info) or the tags they are using are NDEF (in which case NDEF Push works fine).
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You are surely correct. I am speaking about SG2s distributed within South Korea (where I am currently working) and, being a captive market, Samsung can easily adapt the Korean Touchwiz (or even the hardware of the Korean SG2s) to make it possible.
Actually, I have confirmed with people that the public transport NFC is not working with the SG2 but rather with the USim card (integrated NFC) that is given to them via SK Telecom and KT Telecom etc).

My Nexus can read my university's smart card without any trouble(using NFC TagInfo). And I use it to open doors to rooms with restricted access. So I guess it would be possible to emulate it,but I have no idea how to do this.

gambiting said:
My Nexus can read my university's smart card without any trouble(using NFC TagInfo). And I use it to open doors to rooms with restricted access. So I guess it would be possible to emulate it,but I have no idea how to do this.
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So how did you get your phone to open doors etc, did you have to ask your security team to enable something on the phone?

chandlerweb said:
So how did you get your phone to open doors etc, did you have to ask your security team to enable something on the phone?
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I believe he's referring to the fact that the card is used to open secure doors.

gambiting said:
My Nexus can read my university's smart card without any trouble(using NFC TagInfo). And I use it to open doors to rooms with restricted access. So I guess it would be possible to emulate it,but I have no idea how to do this.
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It reads mine too and mine has a pin. Might try and test it tomorrow at work
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chandlerweb said:
So how did you get your phone to open doors etc, did you have to ask your security team to enable something on the phone?
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krohnjw said:
I believe he's referring to the fact that the card is used to open secure doors.
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Yes, I meant that I use my card to open doors, not my phone

Did I understand that right: My Galaxy Nexus can read/write some NFC-Tags, but due to the lack of software protocols has no access to all of them?
I'm quite interested in NFC technology, so naturally I tested an ID card (was recognized) and my chip for the time tracking in the office (was not recognized, but is 13.56 MHz). So my question is – is this "just" a software issue or are there hardware limitations?

NFC Transit Pass Cloning

Hey guys I had a curious thought. I downloaded an NFC tag reader and was able to read some basic info from my Boston MBTA CharlieCard. I know it's a mifare classic chip. I was wondering how hard/legal it would be to somehow clone the card info so I could use my phone to pay the fare. Already dabbled with google wallet so I love the idea of getting rid of crap in my pocket. My door locks are next
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Sweet, I used NFC Classic which can ave it and use it as a new profile..it read my bus pass, and even my chase visa credit card! I'll have to test it next week on the bus.
It pulls two profiles off the card, I'm not sure which to use.

MrIcky said:
Hey guys I had a curious thought. I downloaded an NFC tag reader and was able to read some basic info from my Boston MBTA CharlieCard. I know it's a mifare classic chip. I was wondering how hard/legal it would be to somehow clone the card info so I could use my phone to pay the fare. Already dabbled with google wallet so I love the idea of getting rid of crap in my pocket. My door locks are next
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I JUST moved to Boston and am taking the red line into work every day. If you can get this working or find someone who can let me know. This would be the ideal solution.

Anyone know of a way to do this? Seems like Farebot in the market does what I'm asking in other markets. My knowledge of this stuff gets weak beyond flashing roms and troubleshooting phones
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Galaxy nexus has NFC emulation disabled, so you can't do what you want to do

jairmoreno said:
Galaxy nexus has NFC emulation disabled, so you can't do what you want to do
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Disabled as in its a software setting or disabled as in the chip physically cant do it? Im guessing if the possibility exists someone will figure out a way to make it work. It IS a dev phone after all...

ErisMike said:
Disabled as in its a software setting or disabled as in the chip physically cant do it? Im guessing if the possibility exists someone will figure out a way to make it work. It IS a dev phone after all...
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It's not disabled insomuch as it's not even in the public API.
If it uses NDEF as a messaging container you can use NDEF push (you'll likely need to write your own app for this, but it wouldn't be terribly difficult) - otherwise emulation of other card types / protocols just isn't present currently.
AFAIK Farebot only reads the data as well.

Anyone willing to accept that as a challenge?
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Another user on XDA, m0rtadelo, created a patch for the Nexus S 2.4.1_r1:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1281946
Maybe we can see his changes and port them to the GN ICS?

Any news on this front?
it would be wonderful to have the ability to open the doors at school with my phone rather than picking up my wallet

I too am interested. I'm in Montreal and we use the same tech with our BUS cards, so does my gym and work card. It would be awesome if my phone could completely replace my wallet.
please, if anyone knows of someone working on this let me know. I'm willing to donate for the cause.

i think everyone is pretty keen for nfc emulation! just have to find someone with the skills and motivation to do it. with NFC becoming more widespread, im sure that someone will pick up the task, especially with the nexus.

This would be awesome!

So since my OP the MBTA has mobile payment options for the commuter rail. Anyone know any other ways?

Presto Payments

In toronto the transit system here has made a new payment system, an NFC enabled card. I'm wondering if there is a way that I can use my phone to pay/ send the nfc signals to the machines?

HSR in Hamilton also has this transaction system implemented. Would be interesting to see imho.

According to Metrolinx, using NFC-capable apps is definitely in the cards (no pun intended).
http://www.metrolinx.com/en/projectsandprograms/presto/presto.aspx

TuxOtaku said:
According to Metrolinx, using NFC-capable apps is definitely in the cards (no pun intended).
http://www.metrolinx.com/en/projectsandprograms/presto/presto.aspx
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Not trying to bring you down, but they said NFC-capable devices. That could mean, that they might do contracts with Mobile Network Operators or so and install an app on the secure element. So we'd not use a normal "Android-App".

Damastus said:
Not trying to bring you down, but they said NFC-capable devices. That could mean, that they might do contracts with Mobile Network Operators or so and install an app on the secure element. So we'd not use a normal "Android-App".
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Yeah but at the same time, GO Transit (and thus Metrolinx) DID get Ryerson University to build their (decidedly awesome) mobile app for them. So while I will concede that what you suggest is certainly POSSIBLE, it would also be something that would be both terribly unpopular, and likely quite expensive.

TuxOtaku said:
Yeah but at the same time, GO Transit (and thus Metrolinx) DID get Ryerson University to build their (decidedly awesome) mobile app for them. So while I will concede that what you suggest is certainly POSSIBLE, it would also be something that would be both terribly unpopular, and likely quite expensive.
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Lets say it like this: It's still quite a difference if you emulate a card type that your reader already can read. If yout want to go the way of an app, then there would be the need to replace the old reader infrastructure with NFC readers. Both ways are expensive for the one or the other side in the end.

I would love it if one day they brought it to mobile phones. The more I can do with my phone the better. I hate carrying a bunch of stuff when one thing can do it all.
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Presto app genuine does not work on nfc - capable devices like pixel, ph-1 and lg5, moto g6 play , though did not tested on custom roms yet but unlocked bootloader devices mentioned above do not work with Presto.
P.S. If your device has finger reader, Presto will work but give you error for payments if you did not enabled lock screen pin/gesture / not swipe!/ + insert your, at least, one finger print.
Question is is there any hack to make enable to work the Presto app on device that was bootloader unlocked and rooted (hard or with magic app)?

The chip that gets read from the presto card is actually very small about the size of a sim card, I sliced mine out of the card and attaached it into my watch buckle,. Now when I get on a bus I look like James Bond.

Multitasking!

Think we will be getting.an update soon for.the multitasking ability like the international version?:fingers-crossed:

5 Main Issues with Sprint's SGN2
I posted this up on Sprint's Forum to show that they are handicapping their new phone; thought I would post here as well.
No multiwindow capability
No Apps to SD capability
No simultaneous voice and data capability
No wireless charging capability
No GSM sim card swapability
I'll probably still get the SGN2 and will be happier when an update comes later to provide for the multiwindow capability because it is one of the things I really wanted this phone for; besides the huge screen and quad core processor.
And not being able to move apps to the sd card is a step backwards when we are moving forward with Android. What is up with that? This could become a problem for me as I usually like to load up my cell with apps.
Okay, we also lost the ability to talk on the phone while also using an app on the phone. From what I understand, it is becuase of hardware configuration wouldn't allow this.
Then the wireless charging would have been nice, but Sprint removed the contacts so we can't purchase the replacement back cover that would have given us wireless charging.
Finally, while I don't plan on traveling to other countries in the near future, you never really know, so I would have liked to have a true world phone where I can utilize SIM cards from other countries for cheaper price than what Sprint charges for international roaming. As it is, Sprint permanently hardwired their own sim into the phone. Still it does have GSM capability = $$$$
Started out really excited about the Note 2, just not as excited now. Still need to upgrade from my Epic and this seems the best choice.

You read my mind...in all points. Thank you.
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I posted this up on Sprint's Forum to show that they are handicapping their new phone; thought I would post here as well.
No multiwindow capability
No Apps to SD capability
No simultaneous voice and data capability
No wireless charging capability
No GSM sim card swapability
I'll probably still get the SGN2 and will be happier when an update comes later to provide for the multiwindow capability because it is one of the things I really wanted this phone for; besides the huge screen and quad core processor.
And not being able to move apps to the sd card is a step backwards when we are moving forward with Android. What is up with that? This could become a problem for me as I usually like to load up my cell with apps.
Okay, we also lost the ability to talk on the phone while also using an app on the phone. From what I understand, it is becuase of hardware configuration wouldn't allow this.
Then the wireless charging would have been nice, but Sprint removed the contacts so we can't purchase the replacement back cover that would have given us wireless charging.
Finally, while I don't plan on traveling to other countries in the near future, you never really know, so I would have liked to have a true world phone where I can utilize SIM cards from other countries for cheaper price than what Sprint charges for international roaming. As it is, Sprint permanently hardwired their own sim into the phone. Still it does have GSM capability = $$$$
Started out really excited about the Note 2, just not as excited now. Still need to upgrade from my Epic and this seems the best choice.
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yeah I'm really hoping we can at least get the multitasking update which was one of the main resins fir me purchasing this bad boy...saying a prayer!

Are these not the wireless charging contacts?

Those should be the NFC contacts.

i'm hoping jellybomb ports it from the other roms. very jealous the other versions have it already...

I'm sure (or atleast hope) that we will get in a update. I was excited about the feature as many others are, but if not, I'm sure devs will later port (as another member said) it over.
If I'm not mistaken, the other variants did not come out the box with the feature and received in a update some weeks later? I don't see why this would not apply to us as well. Not surprised one bit ours didn't come out the box with the feature. The international version came out, got the update before our variant even came out. I would suspect that our devices were already in route (being too late) to apply that feature?
Either way, both my wife and I are extremely happy with the device. We knew/know what could happen going into purchasing the device.
Just my first thoughts on it.
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somnifac said:
Those should be the NFC contacts.
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Why don't the sgs3 have it then?

vwgti18 said:
Why don't the sgs3 have it then?
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The NFC on the SGS3 is built into the battery; The Note2's is on the back cover.

chunology said:
The NFC on the SGS3 is built into the battery; The Note2's is on the back cover.
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Fuk had so much hope for wirelesses charging. I'm gonna go cry now.

vwgti18 said:
Fuk had so much hope for wirelesses charging. I'm gonna go cry now.
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If it matters that much to you just mod it. Their is already a thread for that.
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Silent25r said:
If it matters that much to you just mod it. Their is already a thread for that.
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Perhaps you've not been following the post. The Sprint version is missing the phone-side internal contacts for any wireless induction charging, so the phone, no matter what mod, cannot do it.
There *are* directions on how to mod the international and I believe some of the other US carried models to use the Palm Pre touchstone charger induction coils and bases, however, sprint fully removed this, and the SPH-L900 doesn't include these pins.

aramova said:
Perhaps you've not been following the post. The Sprint version is missing the phone-side internal contacts for any wireless induction charging, so the phone, no matter what mod, cannot do it.
There *are* directions on how to mod the international and I believe some of the other US carried models to use the Palm Pre touchstone charger induction coils and bases, however, sprint fully removed this, and the SPH-L900 doesn't include these pins.
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Ouch. I did miss that and that sucks. I wonder if sprint rushed to get the device out early.
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Wow this is a major bummer for me...I was really excited for this phone. I even returned my gs3 for this phone and went down to my epic4g but to read this.....no voice and data its a major bummer and now no wireless charging and I was hoping for a world phone....what's wrong with sprint? I really thought samsung was not letting carriers change their phones...I'm seriously considering getting the gs3 back. I was really excited for using the s pen :S
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aramova said:
Perhaps you've not been following the post. The Sprint version is missing the phone-side internal contacts for any wireless induction charging, so the phone, no matter what mod, cannot do it.
There *are* directions on how to mod the international and I believe some of the other US carried models to use the Palm Pre touchstone charger induction coils and bases, however, sprint fully removed this, and the SPH-L900 doesn't include these pins.
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Wrong. The contacts are on the board. Get a replacement rear housing and back plate, problem solved.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1959005

If you really want inductive phone charging it wouldn't matter if there were contacts (hidden or not). Other phones that never had it as an option have been modded to work with inductive charging.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ve...s-mod-palm-touchstone-no-soldering-phone.html
http://www.pocketables.com/2010/06/...rk-with-palm-touchstone-wireless-charger.html
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Fuk had so much hope for wirelesses charging. I'm gonna go cry now.
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aramova said:
Perhaps you've not been following the post. The Sprint version is missing the phone-side internal contacts for any wireless induction charging, so the phone, no matter what mod, cannot do it.
There *are* directions on how to mod the international and I believe some of the other US carried models to use the Palm Pre touchstone charger induction coils and bases, however, sprint fully removed this, and the SPH-L900 doesn't include these pins.
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BTW, there is a thread showing the internals of the Sprint phone and it looks like the inductive charging leads are just under the back plastic piece. They just need to be tested with a multimeter when the battery is in place to confirm.

dancon1961 said:
I posted this up on Sprint's Forum to show that they are handicapping their new phone; thought I would post here as well.
No multiwindow capability
No Apps to SD capability
No simultaneous voice and data capability
No wireless charging capability
No GSM sim card swapability
I'll probably still get the SGN2 and will be happier when an update comes later to provide for the multiwindow capability because it is one of the things I really wanted this phone for; besides the huge screen and quad core processor.
And not being able to move apps to the sd card is a step backwards when we are moving forward with Android. What is up with that? This could become a problem for me as I usually like to load up my cell with apps.
Okay, we also lost the ability to talk on the phone while also using an app on the phone. From what I understand, it is becuase of hardware configuration wouldn't allow this.
Then the wireless charging would have been nice, but Sprint removed the contacts so we can't purchase the replacement back cover that would have given us wireless charging.
Finally, while I don't plan on traveling to other countries in the near future, you never really know, so I would have liked to have a true world phone where I can utilize SIM cards from other countries for cheaper price than what Sprint charges for international roaming. As it is, Sprint permanently hardwired their own sim into the phone. Still it does have GSM capability = $$$$
Started out really excited about the Note 2, just not as excited now. Still need to upgrade from my Epic and this seems the best choice.
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Screen record and Google wallet. Don't forget.

dancon1961 said:
I posted this up on Sprint's Forum to show that they are handicapping their new phone; thought I would post here as well.
No multiwindow capability
No Apps to SD capability
No simultaneous voice and data capability
No wireless charging capability
No GSM sim card swapability
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I knew about the last three but not the first two nor wallet or screen record. WTF? I don't understand the reasoning behind removing functionality that are determining factors to have this phone in the first place. Split screen was a huge selling point for me. Bad enough I gave up my keyboard. On screen typing just sucks, even if I can do it efficiently. Split screen was supposed to be a great way to reference from one while typing into another.
Sprint hasn't done one thing that is customer friendly ever since the iphone came to town. Policies and perks all tightened and done away with. Now phones are all gimped out with embedded batteries, embedded gsm sims and removed features. Did they take a Verizon 101 class last year?
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Disappointed for sure. Especially with the no voice and data, wtf... Cant even take a picture while on a phone call. Thats just ridiculous.
Called sprint seeing what they coukd do for me since I had an evo3d with failing digitizer and not eligible for an upgrade until May 1st...
They offered me the buy up program for 65 $ to move my upgrade date to that day. Which was November 1st. Had to sell them my 3d back (which was becoming unusable with phantom screen touches) and got 53 $ for it. Went ahead and handed over my MINT OG evo as well for 38 $ ...
First night was rough getting used to size and touchwiz. But after a full day yesterday its becoming easier to accept. And now I find out all this **** is missing that originally drew me to this in the first place.
Now im really leaning towards taking it back for the sg3. Being able to do other things while on the phone such as even just take a pic is important, or sending a text while on phone. Or a number of the listed things missinf in our sprint version for that matter.
can anyone inform me about the gs3 being able to do voice + data?
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