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Tethering with the Nitro

This may be a generic Android question and not so much a Nitro issue, but I'm new to android so I apologize if it's out of line.
I see that there are ways to tether built right into my stock software, but I'm afraid if I use them AT&T will pick it up and switch me from my Unlimited Data plan to a tethering plan. I've been told about PdaNet 3.0, but haven't yet downloaded that. Any thoughts?

They probably will. I would wait until there is a version of CWM or some other close to vanilla Android build for the phone personally.

dbjungle said:
They probably will. I would wait until there is a version of CWM or some other close to vanilla Android build for the phone personally.
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Thanks for the reply, but it's a little over my head. From my minimal Android knowledge I think CWM means ClockWorkMod, but I don't really know what that is. I've got some learning to do.
I do get your point though.

AllstarE4 said:
This may be a generic Android question and not so much a Nitro issue, but I'm new to android so I apologize if it's out of line.
I see that there are ways to tether built right into my stock software, but I'm afraid if I use them AT&T will pick it up and switch me from my Unlimited Data plan to a tethering plan. I've been told about PdaNet 3.0, but haven't yet downloaded that. Any thoughts?
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been tethering with the native app for a while (edited the entitlement check line to activate it). No problems here. I don't abuse it though, just basic web browsing when i tether.

Yeah, CWM is ClockWorkMod. Basically, it's something dev's can use as a platform to create files to flash to your phone (including software that will take everthing back to stock if you mess up). It also provides a relatively simple, if initially intimidating, way for a user to install roms and other mods that devs provide.
Once CWM is on a phone, developers are able to make much cooler things to play with, from streamlined and customized stock roms, to completely different roms such as AOSP (Android Open Source Project) roms. These are stock android roms. You also can get CyanogenMod roms (Such as CM9 which is Icce Cream Sandwich) ported to your phone at that point. The AOSP and CM roms can take a while to get here, but devs can sometimes slip goodies like tethering into a customized version of the stock rom (the one from LG). They did on my phone anyway.
On any relatively new phone, there's always the wait till CWM is ported to the phone. After that, things pick up rapidly.
Hope this helps. I remember asking the same question (and many more like it). You get the hang of it real fast.

dalamchops said:
been tethering with the native app for a while (edited the entitlement check line to activate it). No problems here. I don't abuse it though, just basic web browsing when i tether.
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How did you edit the entitlement check? I probably still won't do it, but I am very curious. I don't trust carrier and manufacturer customized roms.
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dbjungle said:
How did you edit the entitlement check? I probably still won't do it, but I am very curious. I don't trust carrier and manufacturer customized roms.
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Check out page 6/7 in the LG Nitro Root thread in the dev section. You have to trigger the hotspot on once, to get AT&T to tell u that u don't have the proper plan, and the line will appear in line 66.
setting storange/settings.db/secure
Get there using SQLite editor.

E_Man,
When I get back to my computer I'll hit the thanks button. I have a lot to learn, but here's how I equate some of it.
Is CWM kinda like Cydia on the iPhone? I jailbroke my 3GS a few different times, but this android stuff is all Greek to me. There was always a tutorial to be found with every new jailbreak, but I've only seen one for rooting the Nitro and it's still over my head.
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Actually, using iphone terminology, cwm would be more like open iboot or something. It's a recovery mode that allows you to back up, restore, or install roms. There is no cydia equivalent in android afaik. Almost all the cool tools, tweaks, and apps are available in the market. Rooting is pretty much the same thing as jailbreaking.
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Malnilion said:
Actually, using iphone terminology, cwm would be more like open iboot or something. It's a recovery mode that allows you to back up, restore, or install roms. There is no cydia equivalent in android afaik. Almost all the cool tools, tweaks, and apps are available in the market. Rooting is pretty much the same thing as jailbreaking.
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Ah I see. I have noticed that most of the things I had to jailbreak for are already in the android marketplace. The availability of all of that and the freedoms that android offers are what made me ditch iOS. The main reason, though, is because I kept hearing how supportive the android community is. So far you guys seem pretty helpful. It's on me to learn as much as I can. I just have to find the right spot to start gaining info. Much of what I've come across is over my head.

You picked a good phone to convert to. The display on this phone is AMAZING!!! My HTC Inspire looks like a VGA monitor to me now.
Is anyone else using the built in tether option? Any foul play from AT&T?

I'm using it. Don't abuse much (other then listening pandora radio on laptop 8 hours a day), but other then that basic web browsing. So far so good, nothing from ATT (yet I already received sms when had Atrix, but then I was streaming movies from my computer at home, was going 20gb a month. Now I'm about 10gb a month (which I know is high), but it's all because of pandora, it would be the same if I was using phone's app for that anyway.
Although I'm not on contract and won't loose sleep if I have to switch company, for what I pay now I sure can find a better deal elsewhere.

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I'm using it. Don't abuse much (other then listening pandora radio on laptop 8 hours a day), but other then that basic web browsing. So far so good, nothing from ATT (yet I already received sms when had Atrix, but then I was streaming movies from my computer at home, was going 20gb a month. Now I'm about 10gb a month (which I know is high), but it's all because of pandora, it would be the same if I was using phone's app for that anyway.
Although I'm not on contract and won't loose sleep if I have to switch company, for what I pay now I sure can find a better deal elsewhere.
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Wow, nice. I am usually under 3 GB, but tethering on my HSPA+ Inspire was hardly a good experience. I'm sure I'll get above that if I tether on my Nitro. Glad to know you can get around 10 GB without them flipping out on you. I was under the impression you'll receive the SMS right over 5 GB.

Are you guys also on the unlimited data plan without the tethering feature?

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I was under the impression you'll receive the SMS right over 5 GB.
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I forgot to mention I'm in non-LTE area. Also as far as I can remember for at least 2 years, after 15th of each month they slow down the network from about 10am to 7pm from 800kb/sec to 80, regardless of my usage. Still its fast enough for pandora and little web browsing.

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I'm using it. Don't abuse much (other then listening pandora radio on laptop 8 hours a day), but other then that basic web browsing. So far so good, nothing from ATT (yet I already received sms when had Atrix, but then I was streaming movies from my computer at home, was going 20gb a month. Now I'm about 10gb a month (which I know is high), but it's all because of pandora, it would be the same if I was using phone's app for that anyway.
Although I'm not on contract and won't loose sleep if I have to switch company, for what I pay now I sure can find a better deal elsewhere.
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Wait a minute... You use 10GB a month tethering and don't get hassled by AT&T? I was told that with Android devices they can't detect whether or not you're tethering or just using alot with certain apps. It must be true.

I'm gonna try it out.
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Well perhaps they know that I have noting to lose and will cancel my account if they try something.
Already paying way too much for what I get compare to other carriers.

Haha if that were their thinking I would never sign a contract again.
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EFF trying to keep rooting your phone legal

https://www.eff.org/pages/jailbreaking-not-crime-tell-copyright-office-free-your-devices
Take a look at the article and make a simple comment about what being able to legally root your phone means to you. The exemption that the dmca ruled on in 2010 is about to expire so let's make sure it gets renewed.
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From what I hear jailbreaking iphones allows access to free paid apps, which is different than rooting android. However, I'm sure this should apply to both android and iphone users. If it became illegal, what would happen if we got caught? Jailed, fined, terminated by carrier?
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Overstew said:
From what I hear jailbreaking iphones allows access to free paid apps, which is different than rooting android. However, I'm sure this should apply to both android and iphone users. If it became illegal, what would happen if we got caught? Jailed, fined, terminated by carrier?
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Well, Android has access to free paid apps without root. The act of jailbreaking and stealing apps are two different things I would think.
Same with modding consoles, you aren't doing anything illegal unless you download games which you never paid for and play them.

jmejiaa said:
The act of jailbreaking and stealing apps are two different things I would think.
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I would absolutely agree with this. Just because I want to root my device, does not mean I desire to steal anything... in fact I buy paid apps all the time when I probably could get them for free if I looked enough.
The worst thing I have probably ever done (if you consider it wrong) as a benefit of root access, is tether my phones 3G connection (I don't get wimax) to my tablet for free. I don't consider this wrong because I am paying for the data service from Sprint, if I choose to share that with my own personal tablet, that should be my choice. I don't do it for my laptop cuz I have a much faster wifi connection at home, but its convenient for the tablet.

THe original ruling on this was in responce to Apple wanting to make it a crome to jail break the phone. The ruling said Jail breaking was legal for fair use IE being able to do customizations and use features the device would support that the Manufacturer did not want to support. These things have not changed the ruling was for fair use. you bought it you can do what you want with it. But the carriers and manufacturer's have the rigth to deny waranty if you do.

Considering Android is open source and we 'own' our phones, we can do what ever we want with them.

Without rooting, we could not access and remove the crap software that our carriers try to force down our throats. We never would have been able to remove CIQ or even know it was there. We would be helpless and putting control of everything we do into hands of the people we pay our money to every month. I don't trust my service provider to maintain my interests for me.

Its my understanding that jail breaking just lets you install apps that aren't in the app store which sounds legal to me
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jmejiaa said:
Well, Android has access to free paid apps without root. The act of jailbreaking and stealing apps are two different things I would think.
Same with modding consoles, you aren't doing anything illegal unless you download games which you never paid for and play them.
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I just mentioned it because my cousin wanted to jailbreak his ipod to get free paid apps. I didn't necessarily mean everyone steals with rooting/jailbreaking. It was just the first thing that came to mind. The biggest reason i'd see this law passing is because of the misuse of tethering.
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cds0699 said:
I would absolutely agree with this. Just because I want to root my device, does not mean I desire to steal anything... in fact I buy paid apps all the time when I probably could get them for free if I looked enough.
The worst thing I have probably ever done (if you consider it wrong) as a benefit of root access, is tether my phones 3G connection (I don't get wimax) to my tablet for free. I don't consider this wrong because I am paying for the data service from Sprint, if I choose to share that with my own personal tablet, that should be my choice. I don't do it for my laptop cuz I have a much faster wifi connection at home, but its convenient for the tablet.
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while i do understand this, it becomes a conflict of interest because sprint offers the same service on your phone for $30/month... so while TECHNICALLY you didnt agree to ONLY use your data for your phone, they do offer the same service you arent paying for. kinda like using your buddy next door's cable. he pays for it, and doesnt mind at all that you use the other cable box from his service, but its still frowned upon. its a gray area, im not sure what kind of action the carriers can take other than drop you... not that i agree, i use hotspot too...

I hope it stays legal.

Hell all the damn money these carriers and phone manufacture's make off of us it should stay legal, at least for android phones. I could give a **** less about apple and their attitude against everyone and everything! They will put themselves out of business. But android wouldnt be android without Root/jailbreaking and everything that comes along with it. IF they ever took that away I will just use a phone for a phone and go to metro piece of **** or something!

In the apple spectrum, those slimy bastards that make fun of our everything android that's of lesser quality and how they are superior beings for being ifags, for them to go out and steal from the developers is just wrong and should be justifiable with punishment.
In the android spectrum, we don't want to steal. We just want to get the maximum potential out of our device that carriers for some odd reason try and hold back.
Probably because an android phone can last longer. Meaning: keep more interest in the end user for them not to upgrade earlier if they have rooting/rom capabilities keeping this new,fresh, and exciting. Which in turn makes less money for the carrier. But honestly i don't go to the carrier to have a bogged down **** phone and be a helpless lemon and just be forced to upgrade. I want the best bang for my buck and the sooner Carriers realize this the better we will talk of them.

well thats just like everything else these days! They make flat screen tv's to go out in 4or 5 years when the old box tv's would last 20-30 years. Cars are made to die after 150,000 miles or less and now they come out with new phones every couple of months to entice people into keeping up with the jones's and having to have the best instead of just rooting your phone and haveing anything you want on it! If we lose the ability to root and hack our phones, it will clearly be a step backwards...

punwik said:
well thats just like everything else these days! They make flat screen tv's to go out in 4or 5 years when the old box tv's would last 20-30 years. Cars are made to die after 150,000 miles or less and now they come out with new phones every couple of months to entice people into keeping up with the jones's and having to have the best instead of just rooting your phone and haveing anything you want on it! If we lose the ability to root and hack our phones, it will clearly be a step backwards...
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man, i just REALLY like your sig. and, i agree with ^

We are suppose to be making stuff biodegradeable and recycling and making less waste! But these companys making the products we have to use everyday like tv's, cars, computers, phones, ect.. are filling up our land fills and creating soooo much waste and ruining our planet! It has been said that at the rate we are going now by the year 2030 we will need at least 2 planet earths to sustain everyone. Its all about GREED and GREED only. The people running everything on this planet are only thinking about their lifetime and maybe their childrens.

If it wasn't bad enough losing file share websites, now this crap? If we can't root, I won't own an Android. It is easy to steal apps, but with these websites down, I am sure it forces more people to buy them. And how are we supposed to get all of our custom ROMs with no website to host them?
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Who actually likes this phone?

I mean, common, with all the people asking if they should get an iphone or this, or what's better, this or the nexus, or all that other crap, am I the only one who realizes the absolute potential of this phone and how it pwns (excuse the crude terminology xD) basicly every other device out there including the crackberries and isucks, like just today I got about two hours total talk time, bout 5 hours online, wifi on for about 4 hours, bout 5 hours music through bluetooth and bout two through 3.5mm (damn thing lasted longer then my s10-HD), Data/gps and bluetooth on all day and going on 15hours uptime with 22% left on battery.
It performs extremely quick, compatible with basicly everything droid and ahead of the current market including the new nexus in specs, what's to question? The fact that carriers are being slow to release an update?
We already know that itl be comming fully touchcrapped out, and most people on this forums definitely aren't experienced enough to lay their hands on a system file let alone build a rom and will have to wait till someone releases a AOSP style build, with that being said, we don't need the carriers, only the drivers, then we can port what we need, so, why all the complaining, I say simply, if if you question the purchase, go for the alternitave, you probably couldn't handle the device properly anyways.
Opinions? And keep it clean, believe it or not, I'm actually going for a "healthy" discussion xD

I choose this one.
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Ya... i had this phone since early november. Everthing u said i agree and most of us already knows..Whats new? I dont get the point of this thread.
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I do + characters n ****
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This phones awesome in every sense (obviously personal opinion)
I don't know how anyone could question it you can do so much with it its incredibly user friendly and poweful, easy as hell to flash, (although that counter sucks...),
Good lineup of cases, amazing screen and perfect resolution, I even like some* (very little) of TW,
I still say if you have to ask yourself, take the iphone xD
@anomy13
Just a little speal or rant about, well, wverything in my first post..

Suxs.....OP, not phone

Are u aware of the lines and blobs problem?
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I LOVE this phone, it's a monster!
I can close to literally do anything and EVERYTHING with it.
A side note is that this is Android, and if you're not too bright then you're just wasting your phones potential and would be better off with an iPhone.
Idk why so many ppl worry about these lines and blobs, you obviously have to look for them in order for them to get annoying... Either that or I don't have them as bad and atrocious as others say they are.
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anomy13 said:
Are u aware of the lines and blobs problem?
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Sure am and sad for the few that have it, mine didn't, first one didn't either
@audscot
Lmfao ur a moron what u one of the n00bs I've shut up b4 and back winin or sumthin?
@above
Ye lol I like the processor and gig of ram part with my 16gb sdcard xD
Even compressing large zips are a breeze on it, and even with apps like android hexeditors and droidedit (notepad++ for droid with awesome features basicly) you don't even need a pc really xD you can basicly do what you need right from it,
haven't turned on my pc in about 3 days, on fibre optics and 802.11n router, I burnt through 400gb on my bandwidth last month xD)

I love this phone no doubt despite the lines problem i notice sometimes. But you actually get used to it.
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tdizzle404 said:
I choose this one.
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Least you got a white obe xD telus didn't have any when I exchangex my first one, which they didn't have any then... and probably don't now...

Love the phone, I get bored pretty easily but have had this phone for a while now. Maybe it's the wait to see what ROMs come out of it (knowing Eugene is working on cm7 is great). Maybe it's just that there really isn't anything better at the moment for me.
Also as far as I know, Telus never got the white SII X
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I love this phone, even with touchcrap and lack of ICS/CM (for now) its great. I'm excited to see CM 7 better supported soon and eventually CM9, that will be a great day for me lol.
As for the lines and blobs...after flashing newer kernels with updated skyrocket drivers it is reduced quite a bit.

zander21510 said:
I love this phone, even with touchcrap and lack of ICS/CM (for now) its great. I'm excited to see CM 7 better supported soon and eventually CM9, that will be a great day for me lol.
As for the lines and blobs...after flashing newer kernels with updated skyrocket drivers it is reduced quite a bit.
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Ye I love the lil things in crapwizz like turning of auto brightness and holding the status bar to adjust, and other **** like that, the GUI is to big in my opinion, icons are huge, fun to theme though, got CS5 so pngs are really fun
CM9 will definitely please a lot of people that's for sure, I just want drivers its pretty bad when I can build ICS for my old ass 3g lg (fun times.. good old days..) and I can dev all I want but its useless without proper sources xD
Those with like first edition s2x are probably having the blobs worse, samsung being cheap again, (look at the nexus..)
Find an excuse to RMA, that aughta do it
@christ1119
Ye it sucks... they look ballin woulda looked weird in a ballistics case though I guess..

I, too, love this phone. There's not a phone on the market I would rather being using.
It's got the best hardware of any current phone (except the Skyrocket, and that's the same phone for all intents and purposes since I'm not on AT&T).
Only thing I miss from it is AOSP ROMs, but that's just software, and those will come in time.
Nice to see some positiveness on this forum.

I was just about to order a galaxy nexus and this thread is holding me off for a bit.lol

I effin love this phone as stated in this thread it does everything i need it to and more. The fact that it is a qualcomm does not bother me it is more then capable of tearing anything u throw at it up. And as far as the lines go i dont see them even on low setting nor do i care to look for them. I think this phone hulk smashs every phone out there and can only imagine how much fasrer it will be when we do get ics and use the processor to its full potential coupled with true hw accelaration. I cant wait

Couple screenies....i think this is my new setup for awhile
Heres lockscreen and home screen
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if ur on tmobil, this device gives you the best overall performance/network experience.
the original sgs2 has.better hardware but cant do dual band hspa+ 42mbps.
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I agree with everything in the OP, to be honest, I had issues with GB and bugs on my other devices like my G2x (major issues on that, didn't wanna root it cause the dual core was pretty awesome but still did because of the ****ty stock rom). But ever since I switched to my SGS2, although being different from the original, no update to ICS in sight anytime soon, I'm least bothered by it, this is probably the most complete and bugless stock rom I've had on any device, I don't mind touch wiz one bit, know others don't like it but it's cool by me, there is a few things I wish I could change on it but ey it works, it's smooth and all the neat little features are actually pretty sweet. I actually use the default apps for just about everything, the response and performance is awesome compared to my previous phones (G2x response was pretty nice too btw just crappy bugs), only thing I had an issue with is my gps signal being lost at times or taking a while to lock on, but I kinda figured out why since it only happens in certain areas where I live, other than that, I'm pleased and loving my phone, not in much of a hurry for ICS since I can do everything I need to on the current system software and data speeds are awesome and the camera takes beautiful pics, what more could I ask for?
(Wish we had a little more support on accessories though, like cases and stuff like iPhones do, I have about 10 cases to choose from, most being plain, they have a bloody wall full of 'em in all designs and patterns you could think of, unfair much? Lol)

Getting bored of android

Im posting this here since its the phone I currently own. I used to love android but now ever since my dad gave me an iPad, I'm thinking to myself iOS is not as bad as I once thought. I've been playing games on it and iOS has far better games IMO and you can't theme android unless you know what you're doing or have a nonstock launcher. Anyway I don't wanna turn this into an iOS vs android debate. I just wanna know what I can do with my sgs3 to make it better being rooted stock (not into flashing roms anymore) would love to know to theme with touchwiz being my launcher and maybe some good apps and games? Thanks guys you all do such great work

http://www.androidpolice.com/tags/games/ You can use sites like android police which run a lot of apps/games reviews, which is what i love about the site. If you're bored with Android over games then you only have what iOS give you, what i mean to say on Android you can run emulators etc. If you really like the games on iOS then get a iPod Touch, that's one route. If you're bored of Android overall, you will get bored of iOS even sooner, the novelty runs off when you realize although the apps my look prettier essentially the functionality of their Android counterpart is the same.
edit: Also check out post like this form AP:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/09/29/xx-best-new-android-games-from-the-last-2-weeks/

You mean you can't make your own themes unless you know what you're doing? Because it's fairly easy to customize it once you know how. It does take a lot of time though... but have you check out the available themes? There are many launchers to play around with. You should really explore more. Although you said you've used androids for awhile... i don't think you even scratched the surface.
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Go the next chapter: LEARN ANDROID. There are endless possibilities once you've got the ins & outs of the Android platform.
Once you've done that and understood how the platform works...its time to get into development.
There are so many things you can do with Android...and no its not just theming. Lol.

Work on your app drawer
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Oh trust me I've tried like almost all launchers at one point that was available at the time. I've always went back to stock which was sense at the time. I just like stock and hate how you can't theme touchwiz .i mean you can but I have no knowledge in doing so and don't have much time to sit and figure it out ATM. And you're right back when I had the touch diamond I tried the iPhone 3G and got easily bored with it. I guess eventually the iPad will have same result. Thanks for the replies.

Same boat here. I starting to get bored of android. At times I'm jealous of the apple ecosystem. I mean I don't game much but finding a decent pair of headphone that is fully conpatible with this phone is a pain in the ass
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Theming isn't that hard either. I've been able to theme without even knowing much about how it even works just by changing images. The way I've sort of figured out how to do it is using root explorer. I'll download a rom that is themed and I'll unzip the systemui.apk and basically just look through the images there. Based on the locations of particular images I'll know where to put new ones. Framework-res.apk also has stuff to look thorough add well as lidroid-res.apk. It's not original stuff but I can manage to cherry pick stuff to make my phone look the way I like. Usually changing toggles and batteries. Eventually I'd like to look into how to really theme or maybe even dev, but for now I'll leave that to the experts

Funny, I've been thinking about switching it up to IOS lately as well. Except in my case, it's not so much about being bored with Android. For me it's the need to stop spending so much damn time messing with my phone. Recently I've started looking at the iPhone's inability to easily customize IOS and install other ROMs/themes as a real positive. It would be nice to once again have a phone that I just look at as a productive tool than a toy to mess with.
After being an avid Android user for the past 3 years, some days I really do miss the simplicity of my old iPhone.

I have a curiosity with the upcoming HTC 8X. I have invested quite a bit of money on Android but I like new toys too.
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Are you seriously saying android, an Os that you can do way more customizing to than ios, is getting boring and you want to change to ios? What a contradiction smh
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Try MIUI Launcher.. See what that does for you...

As far as time spent on Android modding and so on. I agree. Apple does tout productive. And it is, to a point. My father in law is a wedding photographer. He uses Apple computers when he needs to edit some. Though he does not need an iPhone for that, it is nice to have most of your hardware from the same company so that the eco system feels complete.
To those on Android that feel like it consumes to much time in doing so. My suggestion is to use a little self control with your devices. I will attest to that being harder than said. But, it is doable. If you need to mod, then do only necessary or central things such as rooting to get useful apps to work. Some home replacement apps have the ability to save the state of setup. Technically this does not have to be such a daunting task, take a couple of days to do this. It doesn't have to be a one day consuming event.
Nowm the one thing that thw iPhone lines have over Android phones is the super wicked frikking awsome accessories hands down. Actually infuriates me at times. The SGS3 should have the same by now. It is on almost all carriers. Oh well, regardless Android rocks. And that is because the Devs that support our phones kick but. You want to talk about time consuming? Devs spend uber amounts of it on thesenphones for us. And the don't ask to get paid for it. And they have jobs and family's like we do.
Also, the act of even having thus tech no matter it be Android, Apple or any other. That in it self is time consuming. I say lets shut down the whole computing and electrical industries and start from scratch. Just live off the land. Essentially, we do things to stay alive. So get rid of all unnecessary things. You will save a bunch of time. Time is only relative to how you spend it. If you live your life to truly better others and your own lives. Then you will not waste any time. Time is only wasted when you and those around you are unhappy.
Ok I'm done, I just went into this long dissertation on life relatively. Sorry.
I just flashed the latest ROM five minuets ago and am finally getting thirty hours of battery time! This is sick!!

So this might be a short story
Back in 2010 I got into android,I wanted to save money left att and got me android phone (htc hero )I actually really like it , 2 months later the evo was announced and I got it the day it came out,now the phone changed everything love the big screen, éclair was good but froyo came out a few months later(yeah the update only took htc few months) and since I had rooted my hero I decided to give it a try on htc evo 4G, rooted and started flashing away, sometimes as bad as 3-4 roms a day. Only rom the would last me a week would be warm 2.2(myn recognized developer) and I got tired of it, didn't have more problems with money I got an iPhone 4 like it but hate it the notifications, switch around 4-5 android phones and by the end of 2011 I was tired of flashing and looking at xda every minute of my life, on October 14 last year I got my 32gb iPhone 4S, got rid of my gs2 (hated the slow camera) And evo 3D. The iPhone last it me a while, when out the country, love the app selection and the pic quality, nothing IMO was better, but htc releases the one x and I like the phone a lot but is on att exclusive so I didn't get it, the gs3 gets announce and I didn't like the whole nature UX crap, plus I was worried about the camera. Sprint gets the Galaxy Nexus and I went to check it out, I ended up buying it, love the phone but hate it the network and the camera... Evo LTE comes out and I got it as well, I took it to Mexico for vacations love the pictures and the screen is just amazing, but sprint here in vegas got overload, speeds sucks... Decided that I wanted to switch networks, I decided to get tmobile a try and get the one s, really slim and nice looking phone but storage sucks and screen was crap compare to 4s and the evo lte, I decided to switch to the gs3(even tho I didn't like it at first) because of the screen resolution and the extra memory, one month ago I was in the same spot as you, the new iPhone was about to get announced I wanted something that was useful and I didn't want to mess anymore, decide to go back to stock(not root). Really like the speed of the phone, great camera, etc. But I couldn't find apps, the play store sucks at that sometimes, on launch day I got me an iPhone 5 and is the best looking phone I ever seen. Not matter what anyone says the phone just look stunning, once I set up my iPhone from icloud I get all my apps and settings back to how I used to have on my 4s it amazes me how good apple could be with some stuff. Didn't like the OS same row of icons from 2007 :/ returned the phone and decided to keep my gs3, plus all my apps had black bars because it hasn't been optimize for the new display. Going back to the gs3 I'm still dealing with apps problem, I asked in the forums and people gave me some good responses, i started using app Aware and looking around the web. Now I have a lot good apps and games that I thought android just didn't have I'm happy with the phone and enjoy it, I think one of the biggest problems with xda members is that we keep flashing the phone too much and it feels more like a task then enjoyment. That's my point of view just enjoy your phone. You can go ahead try iPhone, trust me you going to be excited but who wouldn't is a new phone but at the end I decided to stick up with Android. Google ics changed a lot of the bad things and jellybean as well, I'm excited to see what the next update will have
Sorry for the long post... I might have some mistakes, kind of sleepy when I wrote this...
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Is this thread serious?
The beauty of Android is not in simplicity, it's in the ability to choose simplicity if you so desire.. without being forced to.
Perhaps some people can't help themselves and spend hours every week customizing their phone. But that in itself is not an OS issue, it's a self control issue.
Saying that the iOS's restriction on customization would make you more productive is the equivalent to thinking that being in a straight jacket would keep you from using drugs. Of course it would, but it does not address your specific personal issue.
Don't blame Android for your own lack of discipline. Seriously, that is one of the funniest/saddest things I have read on this forum.
I have spent countless hours playing around with customization. When I got bored of it, I simply set up my phone to be the productive tool that some are claiming makes iOS better. Eco system? I have multiple devices from different manufacturers and everything works seamlessly. Yes, it takes more intellect to figure out everything since you pretty much don't have to do anything to make iOS products interact. In fact, they do all the thinking for you. You and your wife have iPhones? And an iPad, and Mac? Great! When those pictures you took automatically sync to every device you own, you can share everything you have in your phone with everyone in your household.. whether you want to or not. Of course, there are safeguards you can set up to prevent certain things from happening, but OH NO - you would have to learn something and spend some time customizing your setup.
I have a Samsung Galaxy S3. I have a 55" LG 3D Cinema Smart TV. A Phillips Bluetooth/Android docking stereo. A PC running Windows XP. I can stream my entire music collection through my TV's wireless Bluetooth surround sound system. Or I can stream my Google Music collection through my Phillips Bluetooth stereo/dock, wirelessly or plugged in. I can control my TV from my Galaxy S3, just like a remote control with the LG Smart Remote app from the Play Store. I can stream locally stored music and videos from my S3 to my TV. I watch Hulu/Netflix on my phone, my TV, my PC. I can plug in my phone to my TV via HDMI adapter to watch my Google movies. Or I can watch my Vudu movie collection through my TV. I've barely scratched the surface.
My phone is running Jellybean (CM10), Google Wallet, and Apex. I have no icons anywhere on my home screens. I pinch my home screen and I'm taken to my text messages. I double tap it, file browser. One finger swipe up? App drawer opens. One finger swipe down, status bar. Two finger swipe down, camera. Two fingers up, Quickpic gallery. I pay for stuff by putting my phone against a paypass terminal everywhere. Grocery stores, 7-11, multiple fast food joints, Macy's, CVS, soda machines, gas stations, etc. My facebook feed and news both on separate full screen scrollable widgets. I talk to Google to find out what's going on with the Chargers/Dodgers. I tell it I'm hungry for a specific type of food and it shows me exactly where I can go and which one's the closest. The weather is in my status bar. My phone tells me how long it will take to get home from work, what kind of traffic there is, how many minutes to my favorite lunch spot - without even asking it.
Please tell me what is more productive than that. And I haven't even listed all the things I do with my phone, not even close.
Oh and as for games, I'm sorry.. did we forget about Grand Theft Auto 3? Modern Combat? NBA Jam? I could list another 20 bad ass games on Android, but I'm actually getting tired of typing. Maybe I should have just swyped this all on my phone's keyboard, since Android can do that...
Have fun with your iOS.

IOS is for the small dogs! Android is for the big dogs!!!!" Its that simply!!!!! Who agrees?!
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what are the advantages of rooting my mobile phone

hey im thinking about rooting and flash a new rom
do you think it's worth it?

:facepalm: this whole forum is dedicated to exactly that so of course we think it's worth it.
That's like walking into a church and asking if this is worth it, everyone is going to tell you yes.
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What exactly are you looking for? Hard to know if its worth it for you! For me yes, its worth it. Is your "mobile phone" a 3xl?

mohamed.jonas said:
hey im thinking about rooting and flash a new rom
do you think it's worth it?
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I do it for one reason, to get a custom kernel with high brightness mode. I need that because I use mine for nav on my motorcycle and need the extra brightness. So it is certainly worth it to me for that reason. It saves me from buying a waterproof GPS for the bike, which isn't cheap. Plus it is much easier to make custom routes on the phone.
You should look at what can be done with root and see if those things are if any value to you.

mohamed.jonas said:
hey im thinking about rooting and flash a new rom
do you think it's worth it?
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No. You will be miserable because you have no idea what you are asking or doing.

mohamed.jonas said:
hey im thinking about rooting and flash a new rom
do you think it's worth it?
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From experience the benefits are negligible at this point. They use to be useful years ago when Roms were exciting because they added a bunch of features.
You don’t have to look hard to see that the number of users rooting and flashing roms has dropped dramatically.

Loved It
Thank you ..

for me it's ad blocking, hands down. AdAway makes internet connected apps so much more pleasant, so much do that using other people's unrooted phones is a terrible experience to me now.
aside from that, it's tinkering with the system software, being able to tweak some games (REROLLING *cough*), and customizing the phone UI/sounds to your heart's content.

fightinfilipino said:
for me it's ad blocking, hands down. AdAway makes internet connected apps so much more pleasant, so much do that using other people's unrooted phones is a terrible experience to me now.
aside from that, it's tinkering with the system software, being able to tweak some games (REROLLING *cough*), and customizing the phone UI/sounds to your heart's content.
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Adblocking is the biggest reason for me. You could always have an always on VPN, but battery would be killed.
Also, white UI is the worst thing to ever hit Android. Even stock rooted is enough when you can use a black UI.
Also, running bash and python scripts with full access to modify my filesystem and run utilities like an ssh server locally, is a win.
If root ever becomes impossible, I might as well use an iPhone.