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What do you really feel about the Evo?

All I read in the forums are complaints about the Evo. I personally don't have a single issue with the phone aside from the awesomeness overdrive. Obviously, people will post/complain more about their issues than those who are completely happy with their phone. But it does skew the image of the Evo for those who happen to stumble on to XDA in hopes of researching the phone for future use. So here's a poll.

bump. i really want to know.
btw. how the frak do i change my signature?
if you can tell, its so damn old!

love it! and no issues!

Best phone I have ever owned or even used for that matter. Few issues but I think most will be solved within a month of release. Pretty damn impressive if u ask me.
Now if HTC would just release the source code we would be in heaven!!!

appzattak said:
love it! and no issues!
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Same here. If there were, I don't notice it and it doesn't bother me at all for me to completely disown this phone.
It's amazing in many ways and there's still plenty of room for improvements. The roms will certainly help this phone get there.
From the HTC Evo!!

How do I feel about the Evo..
Hmmm... EVO-lution. I was one of the very first in line at sprint and I have not put the damn thing down since. Even loosing sleep over it the phone is that awesome!

Eduel80 said:
How do I feel about the Evo..
Hmmm... EVO-lution. I was one of the very first in line at sprint and I have not put the damn thing down since. Even loosing sleep over it the phone is that awesome!
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Glad I'm not the only one. I find myself laying in bed at night doing stuff only to realize the sun is coming up....

Eduel80 said:
How do I feel about the Evo..
Hmmm... EVO-lution. I was one of the very first in line at sprint and I have not put the damn thing down since. Even loosing sleep over it the phone is that awesome!
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Ha! And my wife calls me a nerd and tells me to put it up. At least I'm not the only one.

Well, I haven't touched my laptop since Tuesday...I love it.
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Having this phone is really starting to mess with my circadian rhythm.

I don't feel anything....but there's alot I THINK about it.

I love it. It's the phone I wish I had years ago when the first iPhone came out. I had a Hero before, and I still liked my wifes 3GS, now with the larger screen of the EVO, I don't have that screen-envy anymore. The iPhone just looks tiny and awkward now.
What are the problems people in the poll are talking about? I don't have any issues with mine.

The people that come to this site repent one half of pone half of one percent of evo owners. The people you see here are either either true hackers, heard about how awesome rooting is and want to do it without reading directions, or find us by way of common search term for a specific issue they are having.
The point is, we may hear slot of complaining here, but its because we're part of a vocal and participatory minority.
I have an ipad for work, I had the pre and before that an htc touch pro before a myriad of other phones dating back to the nokia 101. The evo and android are the closest I have ever seen to fulfilling the promise of mobile technology and convenience.
The future is here, and many of the people reading these forums are holding it right now.
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My 2 Cents
I really like the EVO even though it has some issues like the Camera/Video quality for instance but most are mainly Network related so it would be a better experience had it been on T-Mobile...now the Dream/G1 A.K.A Valeria, (I named her that LOL) that's my baby, I love the **** out of that phone and still have it and probably would never get rid of it...many reasons why, it' the 1st Android phone, (so the Mother of all Androids) it's the White version (had it as soon as it was available) it was my first Smartphone and hacked phone from which I learned a little bit of Linux and it was given to me as a present on my Birthday by the love of my life...yea it's official, I'm never getting rid of that phone! Sorry, most of that had nothing to do with the EVO

I love it but my main gripes are the Android Market. Hopefully more devs make more apps or port some over. The app store isn't really organize and I would like to see some spotlighted apps or recommendations based on what apps you have installed.

_Kyros_ said:
I really like the EVO even though it has some issues like the Camera/Video quality for instance but most are mainly Network related so it would be a better experience had it been on T-Mobile...now the Dream/G1 A.K.A Valeria, (I named her that LOL) that's my baby, I love the **** out of that phone and still have it and probably would never get rid of it...many reasons why, it' the 1st Android phone, (so the Mother of all Androids) it's the White version (had it as soon as it was available) it was my first Smartphone and hacked phone from which I learned a little bit of Linux and it was given to me as a present on my Birthday by the love of my life...yea it's official, I'm never getting rid of that phone! Sorry, most of that had nothing to do with the EVO
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I had the g1 too. Learned stuff with that. I had to sell mine to help me pay for this phone. I miss it, but I love the Evo.
From the HTC Evo!!

gqstatus0685 said:
I love it but my main gripes are the Android Market. Hopefully more devs make more apps or port some over. The app store isn't really organize and I would like to see some spotlighted apps or recommendations based on what apps you have installed.
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Yeah. The market needs to go through a major makeover. Some apps are crappy. Needs for categories.. etc. I don't even bother browsing through it. I just search and go.
From the HTC Evo!!

I love my phone....I been hoping to run into someone who has a iPhone so I can say ...hhhhhhaaaaaaa hhhhaaaaa!!!
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[Q] Should I open my new Galaxy S 2?

So I ordered this phone, it's sitting here in the box...I am coming from the Vibrant...**** gps and now no 911 calls on 2.3/cm7/miui...
Was on monthly contract expired...signed 2yr to get this phone at 333 overnighted+tax...haven't opened it yet..I guess as soon as I do, I actually sign the contract?
Only thing is I'm not too happy about spending money on a phone that has basically only 2 roms available both stock looking GB...I am so used to the beautiful look of miui, not to mention the built in backup that has failed 0 times...its so flawless, anytime I flashed a new miui variant, it took 5 minutes to get all my apps/settings/alarm back to what it was...lockscreen music controls...custom boot animations, status bars...well everything...
Reason I am debating is, when I got the vibrant home a few weeks after it came out there was like a hundred roms available...here..not the case...and I am not writing this as any kind of a knock against the devs that ARE actually working on this phone, so please don't take it that way. I just want to be sure that there are things to come for this phone. The vibrant was a horrible experience as far as updates and Sources from samsung...already I see the ATT ver of this has ICS...again ALREADY t-mo's phone is behind...will this trend continue?
Thoughts?

You don't deserve this phone. Send it back. Now!
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I agree. I think you should just go ahead and ship it to me and ill open it. Sound good?
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Send it back. You don't appreciate the phone or the devs.
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DensoYamaha41 said:
Send it back. You don't appreciate the phone or the devs.
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Did u read the whole post...I specifically said this is no way a knock on the devs that ARE actually dev. for the device...sorry If i came across bad, but I was looking for feedback from someone who has something constructive to say to my specific situation...

Send it back and put the 333 and your time into learning some of this and then you won't have to wait...you could contribute.
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Is this phone going to have all the devs and rom's the vibrant had? Maybe not. A lot of people supported the vibrant and there were not as many phone choices. Android phones have expanded with more choices so the devs are more spread out. Does this phone have good roms? Yes, yes it does. And I bet more to come. Should you open your phone? Probably not since usually every time someone post something like this they turn out to be rom and dev bashers and trolls. Trade it for an amaze if your in doubt. Or appreciate what is here and have fun.
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First of all guyz, lay off.. He's not being a mcdouche he's just really worried!
I was too bro.. I came to this phone from the nexus s and at first I was like.. Wtf?? 4 roms? No ics? This was about 2 weeks ago. After spending some time with beastmod though, there is no more looking back.. It's beautiful, blazing fast.. Battery will rape the galaxy s battery.
Keep in mind that this phone is only a few months old so things will pick up. There is a cm9 in the works and an miui rom as well... Unless you have way to get a galaxy nexus, this is the phone to have.. Do yourself a favor and open that box!

Your contract and buyers remorse period starts when fedex/ups drops it at your door not when you open your phone.

I Actually on tmobile USA you can return the phone within 14 days of getting it
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Actually on tmobile USA you can return the phone within 14 days of getting it
Edit: even if you open it up believe

Coming from the Evo 3D forums to here all I see are POS's and rude people.
But to be honest I would wait until you can get it for cheaper if you really really want it.
$333 is A LOT, they had the whiter version for $99 on contract a day or two ago.
As for the dev for the phone it gets better, when I got the GSM e3d it had nothing....after a month it had a great amount of tweaks and roms

look, if you are on t-mobile you basically have two options unless you want to buy a gsm unlocked phone such as the nexus. Amaze or GSII neither have ICS. We have a cm dev with an alpha cm7 and is working on cm9. Does amaze have that? I prefer sense over touchwiz but use go launcher and don't see much touchwiz anyway. How many roms do you need? I had an evo 4g before this which has a crapload of roms but really you had sense, aosp cm based, miui.
You can wait for the next phone but when will that be? next month? spring? summer?

Mrcojocaru said:
First of all guyz, lay off.. He's not being a mcdouche he's just really worried!
I was too bro.. I came to this phone from the nexus s and at first I was like.. Wtf?? 4 roms? No ics? This was about 2 weeks ago. After spending some time with beastmod though, there is no more looking back.. It's beautiful, blazing fast.. Battery will rape the galaxy s battery.
Keep in mind that this phone is only a few months old so things will pick up. There is a cm9 in the works and an miui rom as well... Unless you have way to get a galaxy nexus, this is the phone to have.. Do yourself a favor and open that box!
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Thx...glad u actually read what I wrote...to say I don't appreciate the development team is bull****...again I've had the vibrant for a long time and have had every rom u can imagine ....so to say I don't appreciate the devs is ignorant...I am aware thing will pick up...I was mainly worried that sources will come out for every carrier but tmo like on the vibrant and ill be stick with non working parts of the phone due to the tmo Samsung practice of doing business....thanks guys ill opener er up...sure ill love it...
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There's actually 4.5 roms here, you have stock(and the updated stock), cm7, juggernaut, beastmod, and a half working miui build.
On the nexus s you have vanilla android, cm7(vanilla android though it's definitely the best vanilla android), ICS(vanilla android) and miui.
Looks fairly even to me...any touchwiz roms on the Nexus S? Where's the real variety?

accordex said:
Thx...glad u actually read what I wrote...to say I don't appreciate the development team is bull****...again I've had the vibrant for a long time and have had every rom u can imagine ....so to say I don't appreciate the devs is ignorant...I am aware thing will pick up...I was mainly worried that sources will come out for every carrier but tmo like on the vibrant and ill be stick with non working parts of the phone due to the tmo Samsung practice of doing business....thanks guys ill opener er up...sure ill love it...
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Yeah there are some drama dudes in here for sure! I understand your concerns.. But I'm not aware of any phones with a better combination of good support and hardware Besides that blasted nexus.. Don't know why it's only on Vaerizon.
Btw, I noticed you live in kent.. Is that kent, wa?

You should leave it in the box until it becomes valueless

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There's actually 4.5 roms here, you have stock(and the updated stock), cm7, juggernaut, beastmod, and a half working miui build.
On the nexus s you have vanilla android, cm7(vanilla android though it's definitely the best vanilla android), ICS(vanilla android) and miui.
Looks fairly even to me...any touchwiz roms on the Nexus S? Where's the real variety?
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I just checked and they have almost 10 just on the first page. They have ics and a full miui rom.. So that's hardly even

Mrcojocaru said:
Yeah there are some drama dudes in here for sure! I understand your concerns.. But I'm not aware of any phones with a better combination of good support and hardware Besides that blasted nexus.. Don't know why it's only on Vaerizon.
Btw, I noticed you live in kent.. Is that kent, wa?
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Yup. There are some "drama " dudes. Like the OP.
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Well, I think you should return it, i wish i could return mine ( bought a month ago, $570)
for monthly4g $30 plan. First because the screen and lines really piss me off, and i think me buying a vibrant would of have been a better choice and upgrading my pc with the rest of the money. I'm 15 so $570 was alot of savings. If you work i guess buying it off contract and getting monthly4g wouldnt be much a loss as you would have no contract.
Also, the roms here piss me off to, and accessories available and how the colors, build quality is higher on my old $200 prepaid phone.
Edit: Also, coming from the Optimus V roms, I had alot more roms and even miui on there, just stock upgraded here.

Hey, guys. He was looking for opinions, not a lynch mob. Stop going on the offensive because some people have the gall to give a little criticism toward the phone you have - it makes the community seem worse in everyone else's eye. This isn't 4chan, and there's no need for such rude behavior.

Anyone else have an iPhone and E4GT?

I'm just curious- I just sold my E4GT for an iPhone 4S- as to what your opinions are! This will be my first iPhone, I've only had android for smartphones (well Win6.1 for a few months). (although the E4GT is still my favorite phone ever).
I know this sounds like a "I'm leaving" thread, but it isn't meant to be. Just wondering what people may like about the iPhone vs. this phone, and what they hate! For me, I'm looking forward to the battery life, and the retina display, but will miss google nav, gtalk, gmail app, the notifications, etc.
If there's anyone who has both these phones, and could give some insight, please chime in.
There's a good chance I'll be back, since I change out phones every 6 months (and I got an iPhone because I've never used that OS before, so I'm curious), but I may try Win7 mobile before coming back to android as well.
On a side note, if everyone is really just hating on this thread, and I was an idiot for creating it and causing drama, I will just close it. Sorry all, was just really curious, not trying to create anything!!

My girlfriend has the iPhone, and she loves it. You'll instantly find that without jailbreak, you really can't customize the phone. For 80% of folks that's fine, very similar to the WinPhone7 experience, but you wouldn't be on XDA if you want to keep your phone stock
I will say that the application quality is better on iOS devices, seems like developers put a little more polish into them.

I'm currently in the same dilemma... Mainly because of apps. A lot of apps on iOS either take too long, or don't get released on Android at all. -Yes we have probably almost the same amount of apps on Android as on iOS, but not quality apps. Besides, for me as a startup app developer, iOS is better for business I was waiting for the SGS III, but was disappointed. Would have gotten the One X, if sprint imo wouldn't have uglyfied it. So now I'm waiting for the new iPhone, and hopefully it won't be an iPhone 4SS. Then I might consider switching too.
PS. see, not hate we can communicate in a mature manner

I think whosdaman (Korey) just came back to the E4GT from an iPhone and he has also had the OG Epic I am sure you can get some feedback from him all around.
I havent had the chance to use one but I put it to most people like this. If you've bought into one system why switch? If you really haven't and you like the other then don't let any stop you from having it your way.

DevalB said:
My girlfriend has the iPhone, and she loves it. You'll instantly find that without jailbreak, you really can't customize the phone. For 80% of folks that's fine, very similar to the WinPhone7 experience, but you wouldn't be on XDA if you want to keep your phone stock
I will say that the application quality is better on iOS devices, seems like developers put a little more polish into them.
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I will definitely be jailbreaking the iPhone, I need my wifi-tether haha! Yea I'm excited for the applications, there are so much more on there. What's nice is that EA and Gameloft have a lot of sales, so all the games can be had for $0.99, if you wait for the right time (although still can't beat the market's $0.10 appsale).

jazzneel said:
I'm just curious- I just sold my E4GT for an iPhone 4S- as to what your opinions are! This will be my first iPhone, I've only had android for smartphones (well Win6.1 for a few months). (although the E4GT is still my favorite phone ever).
I know this sounds like a "I'm leaving" thread, but it isn't meant to be. Just wondering what people may like about the iPhone vs. this phone, and what they hate! For me, I'm looking forward to the battery life, and the retina display, but will miss google nav, gtalk, gmail app, the notifications, etc.
If there's anyone who has both these phones, and could give some insight, please chime in.
There's a good chance I'll be back, since I change out phones every 6 months (and I got an iPhone because I've never used that OS before, so I'm curious), but I may try Win7 mobile before coming back to android as well.
On a side note, if everyone is really just hating on this thread, and I was an idiot for creating it and causing drama, I will just close it. Sorry all, was just really curious, not trying to create anything!!
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Their battery is about the same for me but the iPhone 4s has battery on sleep mode/ standby but the E4GT has better battery while in use but by the end of the day their battery drainage is about the same. Camera seems better on the E4GT maybe it's just the screen. Seriously though it's whatever floats your boat. You like massive apps, buying accessories and just want a simple phone then stick to the iPhone, for everything else E4GT is better in my opinion I hate the size of the iPhone screen and it gets boring after 2 days.
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RainMotorsports said:
I think whosdaman (Korey) just came back to the E4GT from an iPhone and he has also had the OG Epic I am sure you can get some feedback from him all around.
I havent had the chance to use one but I put it to most people like this. If you've bought into one system why switch? If you really haven't and you like the other then don't let any stop you from having it your way.
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Honestly, I love the learning process of new phones, which is why I switch so often. I still have not had a Motorola or Apple smartphone ever, so those were next on my list. I went from the Samsung Instinct to HTC Diamond to HTC Hero, to Epic 4G to E4GT, and now iPhone 4S.
I have put a lot of effort into android, but I can always come back. Plus I will admit, that I will probably spend less time on forums in general (still will be on XDA a bit) since you can't customize the iPhone as much. That was another key aspect of getting a phone like the iPhone....I will have more time to study for the GMATs instead of being drawn to all these amazing devs and their work!

I don't have an iPhone but I do have an ipad 3 and it was excruciatingly painful not having jb
And I did start slight theming for it (I just spent around 3 hours)
But **** is so complicated in theming and the file system is stupidly complicated
Who said that iPhones are simple
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gtuansdiamm said:
I don't have an iPhone but I do have an ipad 3 and it was excruciatingly painful not having jb
And I did start slight theming for it (I just spent around 3 hours)
But **** is so complicated in theming and the file system is stupidly complicated
Who said that iPhones are simple
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I freaking hated jailbreaking the iPhone(on the 3gs days), everything stops working like Cydia when a new update/OS is available then you have to jailbreak all over again and spend so much time bringing everything back, it's one of the few updates I dont ever look forward to because of the hassle. My girl has my iPhone 4s now it had nothing to offer me that my E4GT couldn't do
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My wife and I both used to have original Evo's and about 6 months ago I went to the e4gt, and she went with the iPhone 4s. We frequently use each others phones and we both have likes and dislikes. Here are some of our big complaints:
Most of these are the obvious *****es that everyone has...
No 4G
Small screen
No back button
No external storage
Your clueless friends act like you finally decided to get a smartphone.
Positives are:
Camera is much better
High quality look and feel. (The brushed aluminum is a nice touch)
Siri is really cool. (I have tried the leaked S voice app, and I don't think we will see anything that comes close to Siri in the next couple of years)
The iOS is very polished. The cliche is true, "it just works"...
Manufacturers of other products (home or mobile audio mainly) gear everything towards iPhone.
I personally wouldn't go to an iPhone, but I like tinkering and customizing. My wife just wants stability, excellent camera, and good battery life. I definitely see the attraction of both devices. They both have their positives and negatives, it just comes down to preference. Have fun!

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I will definitely be jailbreaking the iPhone, I need my wifi-tether haha! Yea I'm excited for the applications, there are so much more on there. What's nice is that EA and Gameloft have a lot of sales, so all the games can be had for $0.99, if you wait for the right time (although still can't beat the market's $0.10 appsale).
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Yep when you try and jailbreak, that's when you realize it's not as straightforward as you'd like.
I am waiting for the new iPhone as well, as long as it has a larger screen, LTE, and maybe starting at 32gb (I wish!)

Yeah I have both and iPhone is for people who don't do a lot with their phone. Your paying sprint 10 dollars extra and you get slow 3g. And the screen is so small.
But it is a great phone. Maybe if it were bigger and had lte maybe but sprint 3g is horrible. If your on wifi its OK.
Pure ICS only

You will curse the screen for being so tiny on a daily basis.
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DevalB said:
Yep when you try and jailbreak, that's when you realize it's not as straightforward as you'd like.
I am waiting for the new iPhone as well, as long as it has a larger screen, LTE, and maybe starting at 32gb (I wish!)
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It was really straight forward with the ipad 3
It was actually just one click not a zillion clicks like the one click roots from here (no offense to anyone intended)
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My sister has an iPhone and I just jailbroke it for her yesterday. It's amazing how you can customize it with Jailbreaking... I made her phone look like the SII haha. But I still prefer Android because you can customize more even compared to jailbroken iPhones, and jailbreaking isn't completely stable. I'd say that custom ROMs on our phone are in general (not like nightly builds, but regular ROMs) are more stable than jailbroken features on iPhones. I personally don't like the shape of the iPhone or the small screen. Siri also isn't anything special IMO because no one ever ends up using it... just something to brag with. Like I seriously haven't met anyone who used Siri on a daily basis for functionality. To be honest, it's faster looking at a weather widget or opening a weather app than telling Siri to get the weather anyways.

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It was really straight forward with the ipad 3
It was actually just one click not a zillion clicks like the one click roots from here (no offense to anyone intended)
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How is it a zillion clicks lol. The only one click root for the E4GT I have seen once the app is running, its one click. The auto rooter was never advertised as a one click if thats what you mean. Maybe something else back in the EG30 days but i cam just before EK02 went ota.

I thought about getting an iphone but several things turned me off about it. First the hardware feels dated and screen seems small compared to this phone. Second in order to do anything with the files on the phone you have to use a software interface of some sort. For example you cant just plug into any pc, xfer files then unplug, you need itunes. Finally it just feels like a dumbed down content delivery device to me. Android feels and functions like a computer and I like that. I do understand how the simplicity of iphone would appeal to many but its just not for me. I also like being a bit different and popping down my S2 on the table with all my friends iphones at the restaurant or bar.
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My job provided me with an iPhone and I use the E4GT personally.
The iPhone "just works"...but thats it...Its a no thrills phone that just works.
I personally love my E4GT but it takes much tweaking to make it yours.
I will admit. SIRI is awesome but i feel like its just a gimmick for the "Lazy" person who doesn't want to take the few extra steps to do what SIRI does for you.
It is a learning curve but in the end, it really is up to the person and their preference.

I had both, sold the iPhone. I will never own another apple device. The best thing about android is that its open source. That is how things should be. The iPhone was too small, not customizable, and the majority of the apps are paid apps. Also, downloads took FOREVER! I also tried a Galaxy Nexus and sold it this morning. Im sticking with the E4GT until something freaking spectacular pops up. My main things about the E4GT that keep me here: Processor is fast, screen looks fantastic, camera is badass, and the roms are plentiful.

I owned iPhones for years, the biggest deal breaker by far is the tiny screen size. Buy even if it was a larger screen I would never ever be able to go back.
I do see how it is better for average users who just want something that is easy and works out of the box
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[Q] So how many people on here actually have this phone?

I am just curious, I still have a good 9-10 days to return it and might as well if there is not going to be much dev support because even with this awesome hardware I know LG just plain sucks at software...
We should make a list, if you have one say so just so we can get a count of how many people have them.

whoamanwtf said:
I am just curious, I still have a good 9-10 days to return it and might as well if there is not going to be much dev support because even with this awesome hardware I know LG just plain sucks at software...
We should make a list, if you have one say so just so we can get a count of how many people have them.
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I have it...I am not a dev and don't really care to root my phone...just want the Jelly Bean upgrade I'll be happy with this. Dropped my GSIII the other day...the deductible on the insurance was $199....I had an upgrade was going to get a new GSIII but started reading about this phone so I decided to give a shot...LOVE IT...don't regret getting this over another GSIII...as a matter of fact I like it better. Very happy with it.

I have it. My return deadline is this Friday. Might return it for the Nexus 4. Love the device. At&t wont unlock. Still undecided for now.

*Omnipresent* said:
I have it. My return deadline is this Friday. Might return it for the Nexus 4. Love the device. At&t wont unlock. Still undecided for now.
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This exactly. I think my deadline is the 19th...

I'm not counting on att I'm hoping devs figure it out. But if we have to rely on LG jelly bean may never happen and this bloat is ridiculous, I'm pretty sure they never fixed the G2x only the custom roms did.
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whoamanwtf said:
I'm not counting on att I'm hoping devs figure it out. But if we have to rely on LG jelly bean may never happen and this bloat is ridiculous, I'm pretty sure they never fixed the G2x only the custom roms did.
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The bloat you can fix by rooting and using Titanium Backup. I'm fine with the phone, I just need to know that the bootloader will get unlocked, and there will be dev support. The entire xda section for this phone is dead. Not a good sign.

Exactly my worry, this place is a ghost town. And there is something very wrong with our stock OS. The battery usage is ridiculous and this chip should bench higher too.
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whoamanwtf said:
Exactly my worry, this place is a ghost town. And there is something very wrong with our stock OS. The battery usage is ridiculous and this chip should bench higher too.
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The battery has been up and down for me. Twice I've had something get stuck that killed the battery, once it was the phone, and I hadn't made any calls that day. It was fine after a reboot. The android OS seems to keep it awake a bit much, and the phone is NEVER in deep sleep as much as other devices. Try eco mode?
Also, this thing is benching fine? Same as the Korean version? I posted a bunch of bench screens in the "show homescreen" thread. The N4 was benching horribly last time I was looking at reviews...

Well I guess my only comparison were the 10k quadrants the qualcomm dev system was putting up with this chip. But yeah I mean it is blazing fast, fastest phone I've ever seen... That's why I'm having such a hard time deciding.
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whoamanwtf said:
Well I guess my only comparison were the 10k quadrants the qualcomm dev system was putting up with this chip. But yeah I mean it is blazing fast, fastest phone I've ever seen... That's why I'm having such a hard time deciding.
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This thing with its stock AT&T ICS rom, stock kernel, stock clocks, is benching about the same as my SGS3 was with a Jelly Bean ROM, kernel, and OCed to 1.7ghz. In some cases, its beating it. My friend has the Sprint SGS3 (krait dual core) and I'm obliterating him in benches. Browsermark is about the only thing he's even with.
As a phone, for normal people, is great. I could easily recommend this to friends. Battery life is the only thing we can debate on. For us? We need XDA dev support. I know for myself, I *have* to get back to Jelly Bean, and some form of AOSP rom. (I'm partial to AOKP)
So I have a week to see what's going to happen. Hopefully with the N4 coming out today, we'll see something. If its still a ghost town with no word by next week, I'm going to have to decided to either return it, and save my upgrade or sell it on XDA.

whoamanwtf said:
Well I guess my only comparison were the 10k quadrants the qualcomm dev system was putting up with this chip. But yeah I mean it is blazing fast, fastest phone I've ever seen... That's why I'm having such a hard time deciding.
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That dev board shows what the SoC is capable of, but no way will performance be the same on this. This already has thermal throttling issues, so pushing it too much would be crazy.

*Omnipresent* said:
I have it. My return deadline is this Friday. Might return it for the Nexus 4. Love the device. At&t wont unlock. Still undecided for now.
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Exactly what I'm thinking, not because of dev support, but because there are many little issues I can't deal with with this phone. Either the Nexus 4 or the One X+.

Good luck getting a Nexus anytime soon, I tried AT launch this morning. Some members got some, others like myself spent 20 minutes trying over and over, getting lag and errors until the phone was removed from our carts, and is now sold out.
I tried. I have to return the LGOG by Monday... hopefully something happens by then.

This phone is brand new...you can't expect it to be PERFECT..its pretty close though lol. And all I see is people pointing out the bad. Battery life...you have 4 cores! Your phone isn't gonna get the battery life your used to..and benchmarks? Idk what you guys are pulling but I get 7500+. That's plenty fast for me. And LG is hurting. The OG is gonna make or break them. I think you need to have faith in this manufacturer. Its the first of its kind in the US. Its too big of a deal to not update. Mght be a couple months but for those of you who switch because of locked bootloader will regret with what I believe will come in the future. Jellybean will do wonders for the UI..which is not bad at all...I suggest you give this beast a chance..I don't think you will regret it.
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DynamiteWilly said:
This phone is brand new...you can't expect it to be PERFECT..its pretty close though lol. And all I see is people pointing out the bad. Battery life...you have 4 cores! Your phone isn't gonna get the battery life your used to..and benchmarks? Idk what you guys are pulling but I get 7500+. That's plenty fast for me. And LG is hurting. The OG is gonna make or break them. I think you need to have faith in this manufacturer. Its the first of its kind in the US. Its too big of a deal to not update. Mght be a couple months but for those of you who switch because of locked bootloader will regret with what I believe will come in the future. Jellybean will do wonders for the UI..which is not bad at all...I suggest you give this beast a chance..I don't think you will regret it.
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Sure sure Mr LG employee! I do agree this phone will be the survival or death of their mobile. But my doubts come from owning prior LG devices, their problems were all software and never fixed by LG. It didn't matter though because we had a decent dev community, looked bootloaders though on an LG phone worry the hell out of me. This phone is a beast I love the build quality but I am still sceptical, I'm going to ride this ship though hopefully we steer clear of icebergs!
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I can understand your concerns. I had the same thoughts..I almost considered switching to the one x+, but I would regret it if (and I'm sure it will) upgrade to 4.1 or possibly jb and 4.2. I think this is their changing point.
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I have it
I was rooting for the nexus 4 but when it came out with no lte and no expandable memory I opted for the next best thing at the time which was LG optimus g hoping developement would be therefore it. And thankfully it seems to be the case so :good:!

I have had this device a little over a week and i love it i get way better battery life than i did oit of my atrix 2 and so far nothing i due can produce lag the phone responds as fast as i can touch the screen i love my device i think build quality is second to none and my city launched lte recently so with 40 mb plus download speeds i think this device is supurb i have rooted and installed custom roms on every device i have owned but so far with the optimus g i see no need to my only complaint is the camera i feel it could be better but hey its still a phone !
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I am loving this phone. Its incredibly fast and responsive I have only managed to lag it with Testla LED (oddly Flashlight works fine).
Not a huge fan of LG's UI choice (I would have rather had a dark theme, but its not that big of a deal.) Hopefully we get an official Cyanogen port down the road.
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I just picked up my OG yesterday. This is my first Android phone in awhile. I've previously had a G1 and Sprint HTC Hero. I'm coming from an iPhone 5 I smashed in frustration after dealing with Apple's dumb customer service reps for a week regarding a SIM not valid error after updating to iOS 6.0.1.
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T989 vs Nexus 4g lte

I think its hiliarious but I have this friend who swears that his nexus is far better than my gs2. Yeah I have a slightly lower resolution but thats it. I have a proc that will oc to 1.86ghz, gpu that will oc up to what 320mhz. Oh wait I have an sd card slot whoot. He thinks that benchmarks dont tell the truth about a phone, well thats what they are made for to test, ram, cpu, graphics its all there. I guess you just cant convince everyone. It's funny because he says my phone is old and im not even using JB so that'll make it that much more quick when I upgrade. But what ev's
Just something to talk about, thought it was funny
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timenewton said:
I think its hiliarious but I have this friend who swears that his nexus is far better than my gs2. Yeah I have a slightly lower resolution but thats it. I have a proc that will oc to 1.86ghz, gpu that will oc up to what 320mhz. Oh wait I have an sd card slot whoot. He thinks that benchmarks dont tell the truth about a phone, well thats what they are made for to test, ram, cpu, graphics its all there. I guess you just cant convince everyone. It's funny because he says my phone is old and im not even using JB so that'll make it that much more quick when I upgrade. But what ev's
Just something to talk about, thought it was funny
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I think this phone matches nexus easily in every aspect almost. Nexus is not better. This phone has great developers and there's nothing it can't do that the nexus can.
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richardlibeau said:
I think this phone matches nexus easily in every aspect almost. Nexus is not better. This phone has great developers and there's nothing it can't do that the nexus can.
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Indeed.
Besides, the Nexus 4 thread is actually spammed with people having problems with the phone, phone "breaks" randomly in their pocket, pics of broken Nexus 4s, etc
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I gotta laugh at everyone that said the n4 blowwwwws the t989 out of the water in every way. Lol
First....go to the n4 forum and read the problems people are having.
Second ...a friend of mine got one...I played with it a bit. Severely unimpressed. Sure its speedy....but barely quicker than my t989. The display looks like crap compared to mine. And it simply seems fragile! Very!
I will hold on to my Hercules til it breaks or my contract ends and I feel like replacing it. Maybe. My phone does everything I want it too very well. So until phones will do my dishes and tune up my car....I'll maybe stick with what I got. Lol
As far as the n4 goes.....I doubt I'd even trade my phone for it. Actually ....no....I wouldn't.

Technical inferiority. It's sad that people have a right to have their own opinions. This thread is hilarious. Please, lets get some more xda noobs in here to cry some more.
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RushAOZ said:
Technical inferiority. It's sad that people have a right to have their own opinions. This thread is hilarious. Please, lets get some more xda noobs in here to cry some more.
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TOO FUNNY!!! LMAO......LET'S GET SOME MORE NOOBS IN HERE TO CRY SOME MORE.....PRICELESS!!!
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Had a T989 but switched to Nexus 4 and believe me this phone is better in every way... screen, battery life, look and feel, great build quality, super fast and smooth, the two gigs of ram makes multitasking a joy, and I don't have to wait for xda developers to bring me the latest updates... all I can say is get you one
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Galaxy S2 is a typical Samsung POS, the Nexus 4 is more akin in design to an iPhone. In other words, its insanely awesome
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lonz358 said:
Had a T989 but switched to Nexus 4 and believe me this phone is better in every way... screen, battery life, look and feel, great build quality, super fast and smooth, the two gigs of ram makes multitasking a joy, and I don't have to wait for xda developers to bring me the latest updates... all I can say is get you one
Think I will ask Santa to bring me one.......NOT!!! Maybe a Lexus but not a Nexus!!!!
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RushAOZ said:
Technical inferiority. It's sad that people have a right to have their own opinions. This thread is hilarious. Please, lets get some more xda noobs in here to cry some more.
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Lol. Where's your n4 then?
What a Dink! Lol
If XDA frowns upon opinions....let them say so....otherwise shhhhh. Wow!
P.s. the only crying I've seen in this thread is from you....crying about noobs and their inferior opinions. Lol

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lonz358 said:
Think I will ask Santa to bring me one.......NOT!!!
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:thumbup:
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Seriously though to each his own I like sg2 thats just my preference.. Some like htc and motorola phones to me most of them are ugly damn phones but just my opinion. You like what you want as long as your happy with it right? That"s all that counts in the end of the battle of the phones. I am happy with my hercules for now!!!

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Seriously though to each his own I like sg2 thats just my preference.. Some like htc and motorola phones to me most of them are ugly damn phones but just my opinion. You like what you want as long as your happy with it right? That"s all that counts in the end of the battle of the phones. I am happy with my hercules for now!!!
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+1. Well put!!

kj2112 said:
Lol. Where's your n4 then?
What a Dink! Lol
If XDA frowns upon opinions....let them say so....otherwise shhhhh. Wow!
P.s. the only crying I've seen in this thread is from you....crying about noobs and their inferior opinions. Lol
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I'm patiently waiting for shipping orders to finish. Then I'm selling this t989 and jumping ship back onto the Nexus. As far as what the guy up top said about development on the Nexus, clearly he's new to XDA. No phone has more dev support than the Nexus line does. In fact, much of your favorite AOSP roms were built and first released on Nexus devices. Not only that but Nexus devices always get Google's newest OS' first. The t989 doesn't even have full Jelly Bean GPU driver support.. you guys don't even know what project butter truly is yet.
Second, the t989s dual core s3/adreno 220 SoC cannot in anyway whatsoever compete with the quad s4 pro/adreno 320 SoC. You can clock this phone as high as you want and score 9000 on antutu and its still not enough to beat the 13,000 the s4 pro SoC averages.. and that's on stock builds.
Third, if you say the 720p IPS display isn't better than the 480p over saturated SAMOLED display on the t989, clearly you're either blind or couldn't tell a good display if one took a dump on your eyeballs. While blacks will never be as deep, color reproduction is much better on the Nexus 4. And if Voodoo follows suit like on the other Nexus devices, well be able to tweak and calibrate the screen to our will.
Battery life? Nexus 4 wins hands down. Build quality? The t989 looks like crap compared to the Nexus 4.
Working for T-Mobile, I've already played with about 4 Nexus 4s. They're beautiful devices. Super fast and smooth.
Now stop hating and come back to reality. This phone wasn't even better than the other GSIIs, let alone any flagship device released this year. We can all use the "my phone does everything well" excuse but frankly, so can my old single core Nexus S.
With that being said, you kids can continue making up all sorts of crazyness up in trying to justify your purchase over a brand new handset that's better in every conceivable way. It makes for some great comedy.
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Don't take it so personal is all. No one was "crying" and some don't need the fastest phone on earth to be perfectly happy.
Seems the phone crowd has some min/maxers....which is fine ...their choice. I don't have a top of the line gaming computer either....my laptop "does what I want it to do" just fine. Just like my Hercules.
I will be keeping this phone for some time. I could buy an n4, or anything else for that matter, tomorrow .....but I feel no need to. That's me. Maybe not you.
Can't we all use whatever phone we want without the hate?
Read the n4 forum....many....many people saying the same things I said about the n4....I didnt make a call tho....so guess I missed out on hearing the buzzing everyone is excited about! Lol. Bottom line....for me.....never bought an LG product I was happy with.
Take care dude....guess you'll be off to live in the n4 forums!

kj2112 said:
Don't take it so personal is all. No one was "crying" and some don't need the fastest phone on earth to be perfectly happy.
Seems the phone crowd has some min/maxers....which is fine ...their choice. I don't have a top of the line gaming computer either....my laptop "does what I want it to do" just fine. Just like my Hercules.
I will be keeping this phone for some time. I could buy an n4, or anything else for that matter, tomorrow .....but I feel no need to. That's me. Maybe not you.
Can't we all use whatever phone we want without the hate?
Read the n4 forum....many....many people saying the same things I said about the n4....I didnt make a call tho....so guess I missed out on hearing the buzzing everyone is excited about! Lol. Bottom line....for me.....never bought an LG product I was happy with.
Take care dude....guess you'll be off to live in the n4 forums!
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Well see, your opinion makes sense. I can dig that. Unfortunately that's not the OPs reasoning as he full out stated that the t989 is better. You can be happy with whatever device you want. You can't take that away from anyone. But facts are facts. And this device doesn't come anywhere close to a Nexus 4. That's all I'm saying.
Anyways this thread is troll bait. Someone close it lol
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Nice! Lol. Telling people in the n4 forum to come troll this thread!
Enjoy your n4....don't drop it 3 feet tho....heard bad things will happen! Lol

kj2112 said:
Nice! Lol. Telling people in the n4 forum to come troll this thread!
Enjoy your n4....don't drop it 3 feet tho....heard bad things will happen! Lol
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I won't. I haven't even dropped my t989 once in the 9 months I've had it. Don't jinx me though! And yea I told them to troll. This thread is troll bait. Thought it would make for a good show > haha
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kj2112 said:
Nice! Lol. Telling people in the n4 forum to come troll this thread!
Enjoy your n4....don't drop it 3 feet tho....heard bad things will happen! Lol
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Dropped it twice, waist high, No problems here seriously it's a phone with glass, just like the t989(don't think the t989 has gorilla glass 2 though) but if your not careful its going to break like every other phone.
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As a former T989 owner and a current nexus 4 owner, this thread makes me laugh (and I was running AOKP jellybean on mine). Don't get me wrong, I loved my hercules and it is still a great phone, but let's be realistic here. The nexus 4 is hands down a better device in almost every way possible.
Screen
The display is far from "carp". Yes, if you are used to AMOLED displays (like the one on the T989), you will initially find the colors to be "washed out". But in reality, this is because AMOLED screens have grossly over-saturated and unrealistic colors. The blacks are not as deep as AMOLED but they are damn close (again this is due to the nature of IPS displays). Nexus 4 screen is much much sharper, the whites are actually white (and not blue like the one on the T989) and colors are more natural. There is a reason why most reviewers rate is as one of the best displays on any phone. IMO, there is no competition here.
Performance
Again, there is a big difference here (even with JB on the T989). Nexus 4 is smoother and snappier in general use. But heavy usage like gaming is where the biggest difference lies. As for benchmarks, the lower than expected scores are due to benchmark programs not being optimised for 4.2 (go see the difference between the new and old version of Antutu). And honestly, in reality, benchmarks don't mean s***. All I need to know is that this phone handles everything I throw at it without any hiccups and certainly much better than the T989. If you think that a two gen old dual core with 1 Gb ram preforms as a well as the current top end quad core with twice the ram, you are delusional.
Storage and battery
Storage is the only area where T989 has an advantage with its micro sd slot. If you are the type of person that needs to store all of your life on your phone then nexus 4 is not for you. Personally, I barely store anything on my phone (I had used up only about 4 gb of the internal space on my t989) as everything is on the cloud, so even the 8GB nexus 4 is more than enough. Again this is a personal thing so it's a disadvantage for some people but not others.
Battery life for me has been much better on the nexus 4 than on the t989. Obviously, everyone's usage is different so this will vary from person to person, but I'm extremely happy with mine.
Build quality
Here again, there is no competition. The nexus 4 has a much more solid build and has a very premium feel to it. My T989's plastic back started to creak like crazy just after a few days of owning it and it drove me crazy. I thought I was using a low-end entry level device rather than a premium product.
Yes the nexus has a glass back and yes glass cracks when you drop it...who knew huh? So if you are the type to drop your phone frequently, don't buy it or just get a case for it, end of story.
As for the problems being reported, very few newly released devices are without issues and this is a fact. T989 had it's fair share of problems, some of which have still not been fixed till this day (sticky power button anyone?). If you are someone who can't handle even a minor problem with your device, than a newly released phone is not for you (whether it be a nexus 4 or something else). And let's not forget that problems reported on online forums can be blown out of proportion. After all, only those who have issues are going to complain, while those without issues will probably remain silent. Personally, my nexus 4 is flawless, except for the slight static/buzzing problem from the earpiece reported by many people. However, this noise is very faint and inaudible during calls, so this is a non-issue for me. I'm confident that google will fix the issue and when they do, I will ask them to send me a replacement. After all, that's what the warranty is there for. In the mean time, I'm really enjoying owning this phone over my t989.
Oh and let's not forget about the pure android experience and the fact that you will get updates as soon as google releases them. Even if you are into modding, the nexus is the best phone for that as well as its modding community has always been the strongest out of any android phone. You guys really need to step back and look at things objectively here. As someone who has owned and lived with both phones, I can tell you that there is no competition between the two.