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Why isn't verizon promoting DInc?

Every time I go to a store they dont have it on display and they do not promote it at all. They promote Droid X and Samsung Fascinate but the DInc is in the back. The DInc is the best android phone in my opinion but they say and i cant wait for the Incredible HD, the sales rep says a majority of people complain about the battery life but with the right kernnel it seems the 15000 mAh battery is fne as long as u dont over use it but i ploam o get a 2500mAh

I believe it's all about marketing. Big Red feels the X is the closest competition to the Evo. I agree, the Dinc is the best out there right now. as far as changing kernals...the vast majority of Dinc owners are not rooted and flashing a different kernal is not an option.

Look at this forum. Most people are rootedl

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For every 1 person that is rooted and on this forum there are 10 that have no clue what xda is think the term rooted pertains to trees and plants.

Its all marketing. Motorla pays more then htc so they get more. Htc will promote big again when they launch another device for verizon most likely.
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patsfan1130 said:
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For every 1 person that is rooted and on this forum there are 10 that have no clue what xda is think the term rooted pertains to trees and plants.
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Found XDA after finding something in the Market I wanted. It said for "Rooted User" and being 1 of the 10 that had no clue I Googled and found this wonderful place.
Still have a ton of learning to do but hoping to get to a level of knowledge where most XDA'rs are at.

The DInc came out at a really bad time, in my opinion
It came out a few months before th Droid X, so it seems Verizon was too busy advertising their new upcoming Moto Droid phone, plus the Droid 2 was about to come out a few months after that
Just seems they had, in their eyes, more "important" phones on the horizon.
I never saw any adds leading up to he release of the DInc, but saw tons leading up to the X
I guess they see the X and D2 as more "true" successor's to their original Droid baby

Because the phone is 9 months old and I think the shortages it had really limited its numbers.
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Yeah, I got mine in July. There was a 1-2 month wait and the X was coming out by the week's end. Blogs couldn't stop raving about it. It was going to be my last resort. I frantically scoured the net and thankfully found an Incredible at Amazon. Right look, right size, and right specs. Best phone decision ever. The life on this thing is unreal!

I was counting down the days to the Incredible release, waiting for either it or the N1 to be released first. Honestly, I only wish they released it sooner and I'm thankful that there are so many developers working on making it better.
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morph3k said:
Every time I go to a store they dont have it on display and they do not promote it at all. They promote Droid X and Samsung Fascinate but the DInc is in the back. The DInc is the best android phone in my opinion but they say and i cant wait for the Incredible HD, the sales rep says a majority of people complain about the battery life but with the right kernnel it seems the 15000 mAh battery is fne as long as u dont over use it but i ploam o get a 2500mAh
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You want to know the funniest thing? I had a HTC Eris that I LOVED. My one year old threw it in the toilet (no app for that), so I had to wait for my upgrade. Went to Wal-Mart and picked up a D1 for $50. 1 Week later, wifey and I are shopping, and I see that they now have the DInc for.... wait for it...
$28. I scrambled to find my boxes, manuals, and receipt. They have a 30 day return policy. BOOM HEADSHOT.
I am now the proud owner of a Dinc running UD 2.5 and incredikernel #21 (sp). I honestly feel like I stole it from Wal-Mart.
I feel like I have my ERIS back, except it took steroids and became a Marine.

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Look at this forum. Most people are rootedl
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That's because this forum is designed for people that are little more hardcore than average users.
But, still, after all of the rooting and modding that people seem to be drawn towards, I don't see much of anything that's so different than stock.
Personally, I'm not rooted and have no intentions of rooting. I see absolutely no need for it. These devices are touchy enough without messing with root access.

You gotta be ****tn me

paulmz said:
That's because this forum is designed for people that are little more hardcore than average users.
But, still, after all of the rooting and modding that people seem to be drawn towards, I don't see much of anything that's so different than stock.
Personally, I'm not rooted and have no intentions of rooting. I see absolutely no need for it. These devices are touchy enough without messing with root access.
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you wont understand until how much more potential your phone has until you actually start playing it. ive been rooted since the day i got my phone (it was the first thing i did after i activated it). was a little scared to do it at first but have no regrets. rooting this phone is as simple as plugging your phone into a computer now and opening an app with a 99.9% chance nothing will go wrong. back when i rooted my phone being scared to root it was understandable as you had to mess with multiple things to get it to work. it actually took me about 6 hours to do it (had to pop in and out the sd card at an exact time) but now its a piece of cake. you really should open yourself up to rooting which will give you access to all the work of these wonderful developers at xda. im ensuring you that you wont be disappointed. with all that said hopefully you will allow your dinc to operate at its fullest potential!

I rooted with no regrets. I specifically bought this phone in april because I knew mods/hacks would allow cisco groupname vpns. That was the only reason I was needing root, which came available months later. Some other pros were using undervolted kernels, nandroid, and minor asthetics, but big whoop.
Come january first, I doubt Dinc will be in VZ's plethora of phones. It had a long 8-9 month journey. I'll likely keep my Dinc through Q1 of 2012, when i'm eligible for a free upgrade.
The best part is, it will still be handy like an iPod Touch with SIP phone, our can be a good smart phone for my daughter (a blooming developer).

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For every 1 person that is rooted and on this forum there are 10 that have no clue what xda is think the term rooted pertains to trees and plants.
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Agreed, but I suspect the number is probably more like 100+.

I got the dInc on release day! I was on T-Mobile and using a NexusOne but had antenna issues with it so I gave it to my gf temporarily and bought me the dInc ...I dislike Motorola and looooove HTC and XDA.
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I even switched from sprint just to get the DINC>why u may ask... cause sprint didnt have a decent android phone in the 3.6 to 4 inch screen.. I would have loved the evo. but no 4g in the sticks were i live.. So far the DINC to me is one of the best phones out atm.. perfect size and the style is great.. nothing too flashy.... even engadget still says the same...
The DINC should at least get another update..Its got the horesepower.. but the ball is in verizons court etc..on that one.. im just gonna sit back and enjoy it for a year or so then see what else is out there..

Dinc2 vs iPhone 4

Okay guys I know many xda'ers don't hold apple in high regard but my girlfriend is looking to upgrade her blackberry soon. I would just like some opinions of the dinc2 and if anyone has used an ip4 as well and how do they compare? Hows the camera and video capture on dinc2? Also most likely I will be rooting her phone if she gets the dinc2 because she loves miui and wondering how easy it is to root it, Ive read the alpharev thread and I think I have the gist of it. Thanks any thoughts and opinions would be awesome.
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chewbz said:
Okay guys I know many xda'ers don't hold apple in high regard but my girlfriend is looking to upgrade her blackberry soon. I would just like some opinions of the dinc2 and if anyone has used an ip4 as well and how do they compare? Hows the camera and video capture on dinc2? Also most likely I will be rooting her phone if she gets the dinc2 because she loves miui and wondering how easy it is to root it, Ive read the alpharev thread and I think I have the gist of it. Thanks any thoughts and opinions would be awesome.
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I have chick friends that love the inc2, and I have chick friends that love the iphone4, depends on what she or U lol plan to do to it, root, jailbreak, ect..or nothing. if she wants basic go apple. if you want great community support go android.

Its not like android would be particularly difficult to get the hang of, hell my grandpa uses a Droid X. The iPhone isn't going to do anything the inc 2 can't, at this point I think people buy apple due to the perceived status.
And rooting is very simple, its not "one-click" easy, but if you're computer literate its easy. Literally takes a couple minutes once you're ready to go.

I do like the design of apple products but the company and its beloved followers I can't stand. In the end it is up to her but she weighs a lot on my opinion and told her I would ask the fine people at xda as well lol! Also I am cashing out 100 dollars to help pay for it too, and since I got a nexus, I'm hoping she pics the dinc2 .
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chewbz said:
I do like the design of apple products but the company and its beloved followers I can't stand. In the end it is up to her but she weighs a lot on my opinion and told her I would ask the fine people at xda as well lol! Also I am cashing out 100 dollars to help pay for it too, and since I got a nexus, I'm hoping she pics the dinc2 .
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Put it this way. you can get an iPhone and be stuck with iOS and whatever memory size you happen to choose forever (not to mention feel bitter once the next iPhone comes out).
Or you can get the more recent, more technically advanced DInc2, and be able interchange SD cards and Batteries, and switch HTC Sense, AOSP, or MIUI (which is basically iOS, except better because you can use widgets and everything else that makes Android awesome). In my opinion, if you fall prey to the flashy logos, sleek design and massive marketing and ignore the obvious advantages of the HTC android phones, then you deserve to be pigeon-holed in with the mouth-breathers that stand outside the Apple Store all night waiting for the iPad 3 to come out so it can (not) run flash up to 3X faster!

The only problem is I wouldn't get too excited about rooting the Inc2 off the jump because if you get one now it's likely to come with Gingerbread (unless one has been sitting on a shelf for a bit). If you get one, you better get it quick. Froyo had the only known root method and no telling how long it'll take to crack Gingerbread
That said, even in the situation that I didn't root, I have the Incredible 2 and I'd take it over the iPhone easily. HTC sense is really not a bad UI at all, slower than AOSP of course but of all the manufacturer skins on top of Android, Sense UI is by far the most useful.
The biggest problem with the iPhone 4 (to me) is that it doesn't really multitask and the hardware is starting to get a bit dated. The iPhone 4 isn't "slow" by any means, but most modern Android phones will run circles around it. The Dinc2 has good battery life too, I have to absolutely abuse mine for it not to last a whole day easily
If you do happen to get one with Froyo, AlpharevX is as painless as it gets. S-off and it installs clockworkmod recovery for you if you elect to.

Thanks guys, told her what you guys said and she is like 100 % sure she wants the dinc2 Now I'm excited, I get to play with 2 phones, hopefully she'll get one with froyo. If not I can always install adw or go luancher if she doesn't like sense.
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If she's coming from Blackberry and uses a ton of photo/video out of the phone the iphone may be better for you.
I switched my wife over from an Inc 1 to the iPhone and she's in love with it. The camera is unrivaled to be brutally honest, it smokes any android phones camera and i'd love for my inc2 to have the same quality.
Basically she's not a tech person, she needed easy, something that took good pictures, and battery. The inc2 has great battery but still nowhere near the IP4.
I've owned both, and I would never personally go back to an iPhone, but for my wife it was perfect for her, and she would never give hers up.

chewbz said:
Thanks guys, told her what you guys said and she is like 100 % sure she wants the dinc2 Now I'm excited, I get to play with 2 phones, hopefully she'll get one with froyo. If not I can always install adw or go luancher if she doesn't like sense.
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If you get one with Gingerbread on it, you can still S-OFF using the clip method.

If you're getting it new from Verizon I can't think of why it wouldn't be on froyo, unless HTC is already shipping out new units with gingerbread. Just don't take the OTA if you want root.

yeah she told me that she "didn't want to fall to the hype of iphone" lol. She just wants a bigger screen, and she always carries around a point and shoot where ever she goes so camera i'snt really that big of a deal. Also the Dinc2 is 50 dollars less than the iphone at bestbuy. All in all she goes one week to make up her mind lol!

well, the way I see it is that an iphone 4 is pretty much an ipod touch that you can make calls with. the other advantage, which is the main one i'd say, is that if you have a nice sound system in your car and the deck has an AUX in then absolutely nothing can compare with the output quality of an ipod touch/iphone.
ive tried mp3 players from creative, sansa(even with rockbox), sony, etc... even tried different phones(mytouch 3g, htc hd2, samsung galaxy s, and my current incredible 2). no matter how you adjust the eq's or what apps you use(even poweramp), they still do not compare to apple.
but, if you arent planning on doing that in your car then theres no point in getting an iphone4(especially now that android has Plants vs Zombies).

Best advice when choosing a device:
Go to a store with active devices and play with them. Spend some time with them. If you know people with the devices in mind, ask them if you can play with them and get to know them. Make the choice based on your experience, not the advice of others, because it all comes down to personal preference.
As much as I am a big fan of Android and Android devices, and despite the fact that I will never choose an iOS device, I would recommend a person try it before rejecting it.
My sister tried going from a blackberry to an Android device and found one very big legitimate problem with it. She's on Sprint and doesn't have the iPhone as a choice so she went back to blackberry. She liked Android, but that one glaring flaw was enough to push her away from it (at least for now). Of course, the same flaw exists on the iPhone so she's doomed to be stuck on blackberry (yeah, I hate blackberry).
If you want to know the flaw: She can make calls and do certain tasks without looking at her device. With Android, she was unable to do this. I'm betting with something like a Droid Pro this wouldn't be an issue, and the voice command features Android has acquired more recently would help a little, but it's not where she could get as proficient at it as she is with her blackberry.

nimdae said:
If you want to know the flaw: She can make calls and do certain tasks without looking at her device. With Android, she was unable to do this. I'm betting with something like a Droid Pro this wouldn't be an issue, and the voice command features Android has acquired more recently would help a little, but it's not where she could get as proficient at it as she is with her blackberry.
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Just out of curiosity, what kind of certain tasks? Is it a difference between having physical buttons versus softkeys?
EDIT: NVM.. I think I figured out what you might be referring to. That's an issue I have as well, but voice is a big help in it (even if not 100%).

sk0t said:
Just out of curiosity, what kind of certain tasks? Is it a difference between having physical buttons versus softkeys?
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Something like that. It's mostly a problem with her particular usage. She gets tactile feedback for what she is trying to do and can generally get things done without looking at her device. She's a pretty big multitasker so this is important to her. Unfortunately, this also helps her use her device in the car (I wish she wouldn't TBH).

nimdae said:
Something like that. It's mostly a problem with her particular usage. She gets tactile feedback for what she is trying to do and can generally get things done without looking at her device. She's a pretty big multitasker so this is important to her. Unfortunately, this also helps her use her device in the car (I wish she wouldn't TBH).
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Tactile feel = knowing keyboard layout. I was real good at punching out emails on my 9700 without looking at it for most of the email. Same with the car use, which I definitely no longer do (despite the fact that it is now also illegal here).
Curiosity answered.. Thanks.

buying the GS2 on Monday

what should I/do I need to know about the GS2? pros and cons please
I really love my Epic, but I know I'm going to miss my QWERTY
this will be my first full touch-screen phone so I'm a little weary
how do you guys like your GS2's?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1359215
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I've had mine for about a week now (came from and EVO) I have no complaints whats so ever........... Your mileage may vary.......

Its a good device coming from the Evo. Its has a few issues like the Loss of service, but I did experience that until I rooted the device so I dont blame it on the phone.
The one problem that I do have is that it wont play most games for more than 10 to 15 minutes. But I use it for reading more than anything else and sprint and samsung are suppose to be releasing a patch next month.

I would say stop calling it the SGS2 (which, I know, it is) and get used to ET4G. If for nothing else than to know that if something is labeled SGS2 that you should. not. flash. it.
As far as QWERTY goes? Pffft. I was so worried when I got my Evo that I was going to miss QWERTY. I didn't have the Hero long enough to get used to it, then I got the Moment and got used to it (that keyboard sucked anway)....but the transition took, oh, a week or two. That was a year and a half ago and I've never regretted ditching the real keyboard. There are hundreds of 'em. Find one you like. I go back and forth between Swype and SwiftkeyX and can haul major ass on both....especially Swype. SwiftKeyX is totally worth whatever it costs. If you let it read your texts, emails and Facebook posts it's prediction is simply amazing. You barely even have to try being precise.

This phone is the epic now... If you like your keyboard, turn the phone landscape, then the keys r bigger than my gfs physical keys on the og epic
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I got it last Tuesday and love the phone and size. Im using the "Go Launcher" and LOVE IT, amazing how easily it is to make your beautiful looking and functional. The only problem Im having is LOS. And battery life is not that good either but , what can you expect from a dual Core phone with a big ass screen. You can tweak it with SetCpu. But Im still trying to find the best configuration so i can have a optimal battery life.
But i must say the phone is amazing and also it also lets you uninstall a lot of the preloaded apps without rooting, something other phones and carriers wont permit.

I am also getting this phone... just ordered it tonight.. should be here no later than Wed!
I'll be switching from the Moment and lack of a physical keyboard was also something I was wondering about. Hence why I sub'd to this thread.. I wanna see what y'all have to say.
BTW... Howdy! this is my first post here

crazy_dragonlady said:
I am also getting this phone... just ordered it tonight.. should be here no later than Wed!
I'll be switching from the Moment and lack of a physical keyboard was also something I was wondering about. Hence why I sub'd to this thread.. I wanna see what y'all have to say.
BTW... Howdy! this is my first post here
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You'll love this phone. Very easy to type on.
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I can't wait! I've been reading the forums about this phone for the last week or so and it's making me rather impatient to get my hands on the phone that y'all have been raving about!
ttfn
CDL

crazy_dragonlady said:
I can't wait! I've been reading the forums about this phone for the last week or so and it's making me rather impatient to get my hands on the phone that y'all have been raving about!
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CDL
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I've had it for about 4 days now. I was skeptical about the los issues. Its been smooth sailing though.
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crazy_dragonlady said:
I am also getting this phone... just ordered it tonight.. should be here no later than Wed!
I'll be switching from the Moment and lack of a physical keyboard was also something I was wondering about. Hence why I sub'd to this thread.. I wanna see what y'all have to say.
BTW... Howdy! this is my first post here
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If you are coming from the Moment you will love this device. I had the moment for 6 months but I had to get rid of it because I hated it. I went to the and loved that until my charger port broke. Got this as a replacement. This is better than the Evo, considering the screen is excellent. Also it is so much lighter and thinner than the Evo and Touchwiz is not as bad as people make it out to be.
The only problem with it that I have had is the sound bug which causes some games to just quit.

carlangas20 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1359215
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thank you, I was not aware of this thread
Ga101698 said:
I've had mine for about a week now (came from and EVO) I have no complaints whats so ever........... Your mileage may vary.......
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Mship said:
Its a good device coming from the Evo. Its has a few issues like the Loss of service, but I did experience that until I rooted the device so I dont blame it on the phone.
The one problem that I do have is that it wont play most games for more than 10 to 15 minutes. But I use it for reading more than anything else and sprint and samsung are suppose to be releasing a patch next month.
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well, to be honest. I am pretty used to Sprint's loss of service lately. as sad as that is to say :/
daneurysm said:
I would say stop calling it the SGS2 (which, I know, it is) and get used to ET4G. If for nothing else than to know that if something is labeled SGS2 that you should. not. flash. it.
As far as QWERTY goes? Pffft. I was so worried when I got my Evo that I was going to miss QWERTY. I didn't have the Hero long enough to get used to it, then I got the Moment and got used to it (that keyboard sucked anway)....but the transition took, oh, a week or two. That was a year and a half ago and I've never regretted ditching the real keyboard. There are hundreds of 'em. Find one you like. I go back and forth between Swype and SwiftkeyX and can haul major ass on both....especially Swype. SwiftKeyX is totally worth whatever it costs. If you let it read your texts, emails and Facebook posts it's prediction is simply amazing. You barely even have to try being precise.
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I hate the fact that the phone is technically the GS2 ET4G, like... wtf? why so many names? lol. and I am very much against flashing my phones. I've had nothing but bad experiences with it. so I will not be doing it to my new phone. thanks for the info
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This phone is the epic now... If you like your keyboard, turn the phone landscape, then the keys r bigger than my gfs physical keys on the og epic
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but just because you can go landscape mode, doesn't mean it's the same as a full qwerty
Marcthegeek said:
I got it last Tuesday and love the phone and size. Im using the "Go Launcher" and LOVE IT, amazing how easily it is to make your beautiful looking and functional. The only problem Im having is LOS. And battery life is not that good either but , what can you expect from a dual Core phone with a big ass screen. You can tweak it with SetCpu. But Im still trying to find the best configuration so i can have a optimal battery life.
But i must say the phone is amazing and also it also lets you uninstall a lot of the preloaded apps without rooting, something other phones and carriers wont permit.
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did they tell you how soon you would have to replace the battery? b/c when I got my Epic 4G, they said about after a year I should get a new battery. J/W, thanks
crazy_dragonlady said:
I am also getting this phone... just ordered it tonight.. should be here no later than Wed!
I'll be switching from the Moment and lack of a physical keyboard was also something I was wondering about. Hence why I sub'd to this thread.. I wanna see what y'all have to say.
BTW... Howdy! this is my first post here
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welcome to XDA!
also, please come back when you get the phone and let us know, k?
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You'll love this phone. Very easy to type on.
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I hope you're right, lol
crazy_dragonlady said:
I can't wait! I've been reading the forums about this phone for the last week or so and it's making me rather impatient to get my hands on the phone that y'all have been raving about!
ttfn
CDL
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I've been kinda impatient for about 2 months now, lol

I will definitely post back on what I think of this phone.... coming from the Moment I'm sure I'll be blown away! After watching a lot of vids and reading a lot of reviews/posts on here I'm thinking that I might be playing with it for quite a long time ... my hubby is gonna HATE this phone! LOL
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I'm selling my epic if any of you are interested.
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Here's a little devil's advocate.
I bought the ET4G on a whim after seeing it on Craigslist for an attractive price. After using it for a week, it's going back on Craigslist and I am using my OG Epic again w/ the new Gingerbread release (and physical keyboard fixes!).
While the ET4G certainly offers a snappier Android experience and a better camera than the OG Epic, I didn't find the boost in speed or extra screen real estate to be worth the $325 I paid for the device. I think the only speed boost worth writing home about was the speed of the ET4G's stock browser. Lastly, the audio quality of SGSII is inferior to SGSI and in all honesty not worthy of a high end smartphone - this was the deal breaker for me.
Considering that you already have the OG Epic, I'd wait until the middle of next year so you can get a killer future-proof 720p LTE phone at a fully discounted price. All that said, the ET4G is still a great device!

rmgill said:
Here's a little devil's advocate.
I bought the ET4G on a whim after seeing it on Craigslist for an attractive price. After using it for a week, it's going back on Craigslist and I am using my OG Epic again w/ the new Gingerbread release (and physical keyboard fixes!).
While the ET4G certainly offers a snappier Android experience and a better camera than the OG Epic, I didn't find the boost in speed or extra screen real estate to be worth the $325 I paid for the device. I think the only speed boost worth writing home about was the speed of the ET4G's stock browser. Lastly, the audio quality of SGSII is inferior to SGSI and in all honesty not worthy of a high end smartphone - this was the deal breaker for me.
Considering that you already have the OG Epic, I'd wait until the middle of next year so you can get a killer future-proof 720p LTE phone at a fully discounted price. All that said, the ET4G is still a great device!
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well my GS2 is here and I really like it. but I do miss my keyboard
and I have 2 lines, so I can still always wait lol
ps. is it just my phone or does the homescreen not rotate? :/

monotune said:
well my GS2 is here and I really like it. but I do miss my keyboard
and I have 2 lines, so I can still always wait lol
ps. is it just my phone or does the homescreen not rotate? :/
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That's one reason I haven't taken the plunge (though I tried once, and the guy at the store said he couldn't mess with my plan). When I played with it at the store, it wouldn't rotate. Meanwhile, some of the apps (especially the camera app) would go landscape and not go back. Anyone else have that problem?

InkPouchMan said:
That's one reason I haven't taken the plunge (though I tried once, and the guy at the store said he couldn't mess with my plan). When I played with it at the store, it wouldn't rotate. Meanwhile, some of the apps (especially the camera app) would go landscape and not go back. Anyone else have that problem?
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I have a very slight lag (probably intentional) when I rotate the phone when using camera but I have never had it stick.
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Anyone else have an iPhone and E4GT?

I'm just curious- I just sold my E4GT for an iPhone 4S- as to what your opinions are! This will be my first iPhone, I've only had android for smartphones (well Win6.1 for a few months). (although the E4GT is still my favorite phone ever).
I know this sounds like a "I'm leaving" thread, but it isn't meant to be. Just wondering what people may like about the iPhone vs. this phone, and what they hate! For me, I'm looking forward to the battery life, and the retina display, but will miss google nav, gtalk, gmail app, the notifications, etc.
If there's anyone who has both these phones, and could give some insight, please chime in.
There's a good chance I'll be back, since I change out phones every 6 months (and I got an iPhone because I've never used that OS before, so I'm curious), but I may try Win7 mobile before coming back to android as well.
On a side note, if everyone is really just hating on this thread, and I was an idiot for creating it and causing drama, I will just close it. Sorry all, was just really curious, not trying to create anything!!

My girlfriend has the iPhone, and she loves it. You'll instantly find that without jailbreak, you really can't customize the phone. For 80% of folks that's fine, very similar to the WinPhone7 experience, but you wouldn't be on XDA if you want to keep your phone stock
I will say that the application quality is better on iOS devices, seems like developers put a little more polish into them.

I'm currently in the same dilemma... Mainly because of apps. A lot of apps on iOS either take too long, or don't get released on Android at all. -Yes we have probably almost the same amount of apps on Android as on iOS, but not quality apps. Besides, for me as a startup app developer, iOS is better for business I was waiting for the SGS III, but was disappointed. Would have gotten the One X, if sprint imo wouldn't have uglyfied it. So now I'm waiting for the new iPhone, and hopefully it won't be an iPhone 4SS. Then I might consider switching too.
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I think whosdaman (Korey) just came back to the E4GT from an iPhone and he has also had the OG Epic I am sure you can get some feedback from him all around.
I havent had the chance to use one but I put it to most people like this. If you've bought into one system why switch? If you really haven't and you like the other then don't let any stop you from having it your way.

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My girlfriend has the iPhone, and she loves it. You'll instantly find that without jailbreak, you really can't customize the phone. For 80% of folks that's fine, very similar to the WinPhone7 experience, but you wouldn't be on XDA if you want to keep your phone stock
I will say that the application quality is better on iOS devices, seems like developers put a little more polish into them.
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I will definitely be jailbreaking the iPhone, I need my wifi-tether haha! Yea I'm excited for the applications, there are so much more on there. What's nice is that EA and Gameloft have a lot of sales, so all the games can be had for $0.99, if you wait for the right time (although still can't beat the market's $0.10 appsale).

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I'm just curious- I just sold my E4GT for an iPhone 4S- as to what your opinions are! This will be my first iPhone, I've only had android for smartphones (well Win6.1 for a few months). (although the E4GT is still my favorite phone ever).
I know this sounds like a "I'm leaving" thread, but it isn't meant to be. Just wondering what people may like about the iPhone vs. this phone, and what they hate! For me, I'm looking forward to the battery life, and the retina display, but will miss google nav, gtalk, gmail app, the notifications, etc.
If there's anyone who has both these phones, and could give some insight, please chime in.
There's a good chance I'll be back, since I change out phones every 6 months (and I got an iPhone because I've never used that OS before, so I'm curious), but I may try Win7 mobile before coming back to android as well.
On a side note, if everyone is really just hating on this thread, and I was an idiot for creating it and causing drama, I will just close it. Sorry all, was just really curious, not trying to create anything!!
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Their battery is about the same for me but the iPhone 4s has battery on sleep mode/ standby but the E4GT has better battery while in use but by the end of the day their battery drainage is about the same. Camera seems better on the E4GT maybe it's just the screen. Seriously though it's whatever floats your boat. You like massive apps, buying accessories and just want a simple phone then stick to the iPhone, for everything else E4GT is better in my opinion I hate the size of the iPhone screen and it gets boring after 2 days.
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I think whosdaman (Korey) just came back to the E4GT from an iPhone and he has also had the OG Epic I am sure you can get some feedback from him all around.
I havent had the chance to use one but I put it to most people like this. If you've bought into one system why switch? If you really haven't and you like the other then don't let any stop you from having it your way.
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Honestly, I love the learning process of new phones, which is why I switch so often. I still have not had a Motorola or Apple smartphone ever, so those were next on my list. I went from the Samsung Instinct to HTC Diamond to HTC Hero, to Epic 4G to E4GT, and now iPhone 4S.
I have put a lot of effort into android, but I can always come back. Plus I will admit, that I will probably spend less time on forums in general (still will be on XDA a bit) since you can't customize the iPhone as much. That was another key aspect of getting a phone like the iPhone....I will have more time to study for the GMATs instead of being drawn to all these amazing devs and their work!

I don't have an iPhone but I do have an ipad 3 and it was excruciatingly painful not having jb
And I did start slight theming for it (I just spent around 3 hours)
But **** is so complicated in theming and the file system is stupidly complicated
Who said that iPhones are simple
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I don't have an iPhone but I do have an ipad 3 and it was excruciatingly painful not having jb
And I did start slight theming for it (I just spent around 3 hours)
But **** is so complicated in theming and the file system is stupidly complicated
Who said that iPhones are simple
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I freaking hated jailbreaking the iPhone(on the 3gs days), everything stops working like Cydia when a new update/OS is available then you have to jailbreak all over again and spend so much time bringing everything back, it's one of the few updates I dont ever look forward to because of the hassle. My girl has my iPhone 4s now it had nothing to offer me that my E4GT couldn't do
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My wife and I both used to have original Evo's and about 6 months ago I went to the e4gt, and she went with the iPhone 4s. We frequently use each others phones and we both have likes and dislikes. Here are some of our big complaints:
Most of these are the obvious *****es that everyone has...
No 4G
Small screen
No back button
No external storage
Your clueless friends act like you finally decided to get a smartphone.
Positives are:
Camera is much better
High quality look and feel. (The brushed aluminum is a nice touch)
Siri is really cool. (I have tried the leaked S voice app, and I don't think we will see anything that comes close to Siri in the next couple of years)
The iOS is very polished. The cliche is true, "it just works"...
Manufacturers of other products (home or mobile audio mainly) gear everything towards iPhone.
I personally wouldn't go to an iPhone, but I like tinkering and customizing. My wife just wants stability, excellent camera, and good battery life. I definitely see the attraction of both devices. They both have their positives and negatives, it just comes down to preference. Have fun!

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I will definitely be jailbreaking the iPhone, I need my wifi-tether haha! Yea I'm excited for the applications, there are so much more on there. What's nice is that EA and Gameloft have a lot of sales, so all the games can be had for $0.99, if you wait for the right time (although still can't beat the market's $0.10 appsale).
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Yep when you try and jailbreak, that's when you realize it's not as straightforward as you'd like.
I am waiting for the new iPhone as well, as long as it has a larger screen, LTE, and maybe starting at 32gb (I wish!)

Yeah I have both and iPhone is for people who don't do a lot with their phone. Your paying sprint 10 dollars extra and you get slow 3g. And the screen is so small.
But it is a great phone. Maybe if it were bigger and had lte maybe but sprint 3g is horrible. If your on wifi its OK.
Pure ICS only

You will curse the screen for being so tiny on a daily basis.
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DevalB said:
Yep when you try and jailbreak, that's when you realize it's not as straightforward as you'd like.
I am waiting for the new iPhone as well, as long as it has a larger screen, LTE, and maybe starting at 32gb (I wish!)
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It was really straight forward with the ipad 3
It was actually just one click not a zillion clicks like the one click roots from here (no offense to anyone intended)
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My sister has an iPhone and I just jailbroke it for her yesterday. It's amazing how you can customize it with Jailbreaking... I made her phone look like the SII haha. But I still prefer Android because you can customize more even compared to jailbroken iPhones, and jailbreaking isn't completely stable. I'd say that custom ROMs on our phone are in general (not like nightly builds, but regular ROMs) are more stable than jailbroken features on iPhones. I personally don't like the shape of the iPhone or the small screen. Siri also isn't anything special IMO because no one ever ends up using it... just something to brag with. Like I seriously haven't met anyone who used Siri on a daily basis for functionality. To be honest, it's faster looking at a weather widget or opening a weather app than telling Siri to get the weather anyways.

gtuansdiamm said:
It was really straight forward with the ipad 3
It was actually just one click not a zillion clicks like the one click roots from here (no offense to anyone intended)
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How is it a zillion clicks lol. The only one click root for the E4GT I have seen once the app is running, its one click. The auto rooter was never advertised as a one click if thats what you mean. Maybe something else back in the EG30 days but i cam just before EK02 went ota.

I thought about getting an iphone but several things turned me off about it. First the hardware feels dated and screen seems small compared to this phone. Second in order to do anything with the files on the phone you have to use a software interface of some sort. For example you cant just plug into any pc, xfer files then unplug, you need itunes. Finally it just feels like a dumbed down content delivery device to me. Android feels and functions like a computer and I like that. I do understand how the simplicity of iphone would appeal to many but its just not for me. I also like being a bit different and popping down my S2 on the table with all my friends iphones at the restaurant or bar.
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My job provided me with an iPhone and I use the E4GT personally.
The iPhone "just works"...but thats it...Its a no thrills phone that just works.
I personally love my E4GT but it takes much tweaking to make it yours.
I will admit. SIRI is awesome but i feel like its just a gimmick for the "Lazy" person who doesn't want to take the few extra steps to do what SIRI does for you.
It is a learning curve but in the end, it really is up to the person and their preference.

I had both, sold the iPhone. I will never own another apple device. The best thing about android is that its open source. That is how things should be. The iPhone was too small, not customizable, and the majority of the apps are paid apps. Also, downloads took FOREVER! I also tried a Galaxy Nexus and sold it this morning. Im sticking with the E4GT until something freaking spectacular pops up. My main things about the E4GT that keep me here: Processor is fast, screen looks fantastic, camera is badass, and the roms are plentiful.

I owned iPhones for years, the biggest deal breaker by far is the tiny screen size. Buy even if it was a larger screen I would never ever be able to go back.
I do see how it is better for average users who just want something that is easy and works out of the box
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Iphone or epic?

I got my first iphone unlocked with tmobile. I wanna get an epic with boost but I need some feed back. I was never big on iphones but the respone onapps and scrolling is realy good. hows the response on the epic? any problems or complaints about this phone? let me know

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I got my first iphone unlocked with tmobile. I wanna get an epic with boost but I need some feed back. I was never big on iphones but the respone onapps and scrolling is realy good. hows the response on the epic? any problems or complaints about this phone? let me know
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These are 2 very different phones, it all depends on whether you prefer iOS or Android, then it'd be easy to pick which phone. Another thing being on the Epic forums, you can expect to get biased responses leaning towards the Epic (what do you expect, its the phone we all most likely use and love).
With that said, to answer your question the response is pretty smooth, I rarely get lag (but I won't deny that it does occur every now and then). Opening tons of apps and having them all active usually causes this, but if you take things slow and only use 2-3 apps at a time, everything will run smoothly. The phone is great, very smooth, great battery life, signal doesn't break, data is slow (Sprint is to blame for this, I think the same can be said about Boost). I personally love this phone and don't plan on moving onto something else for a long while to come, it is definitely something I can stick with for the next year+.

I agree with TPizzle. It is really more about which software you prefer. I think if you just want a phone that works and you don't want to tinker with it the iPhone is great. But if you like getting the most out of the os and enjoy getting down and dirty with your phone Android is the way to go. I have both phones. iPhone for work and Epic for personal. I wouldn't carry an iPhone for personal use. I find it boring and unexciting. I love Android as an OS and wouldn't have anything else.
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crawrj, you are back, that is great. Haven't seen you around for a while.
Sorry to OP for the distraction.

sfhub said:
crawrj, you are back, that is great. Haven't seen you around for a while.
Sorry to OP for the distraction.
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Thanks man. I should have a computer tomorrow and will start getting back into the groove. BTW you are doing awesome work! Keep it up.

TPizzle said:
These are 2 very different phones, it all depends on whether you prefer iOS or Android, then it'd be easy to pick which phone. Another thing being on the Epic forums, you can expect to get biased responses leaning towards the Epic (what do you expect, its the phone we all most likely use and love).
With that said, to answer your question the response is pretty smooth, I rarely get lag (but I won't deny that it does occur every now and then). Opening tons of apps and having them all active usually causes this, but if you take things slow and only use 2-3 apps at a time, everything will run smoothly. The phone is great, very smooth, great battery life, signal doesn't break, data is slow (Sprint is to blame for this, I think the same can be said about Boost). I personally love this phone and don't plan on moving onto something else for a long while to come, it is definitely something I can stick with for the next year+.
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I always wanted the epic since it came out. Some one gave me an I phone so i switched from boost to tmobile pre paid. The internet is 4 g for a certain amount of gs then it drops to 2 g. Thats Y i wanna switch back to boost.I had a htc touch pro 2 on boost and I loved it. Then it broke and I got stuck with a ****ty juno phone... But I gotta admit ,a jailbroken Iphone with cydia can really be modded with alot of stuff , How slow is the internet on Sprint? I heard Boost is 4 g now, but I also heard in august there gonna stop pic messages is this true?

Cydia seems like a saving grace on the iPhone because you have absolutely no options without it but if you look at cydia in comparison to Android it pales in comparison...what you achieve with cydia on an iPhone you can achieve with an app on Android.
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