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All I read in the forums are complaints about the Evo. I personally don't have a single issue with the phone aside from the awesomeness overdrive. Obviously, people will post/complain more about their issues than those who are completely happy with their phone. But it does skew the image of the Evo for those who happen to stumble on to XDA in hopes of researching the phone for future use. So here's a poll.
bump. i really want to know.
btw. how the frak do i change my signature?
if you can tell, its so damn old!
love it! and no issues!
Best phone I have ever owned or even used for that matter. Few issues but I think most will be solved within a month of release. Pretty damn impressive if u ask me.
Now if HTC would just release the source code we would be in heaven!!!
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love it! and no issues!
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Same here. If there were, I don't notice it and it doesn't bother me at all for me to completely disown this phone.
It's amazing in many ways and there's still plenty of room for improvements. The roms will certainly help this phone get there.
From the HTC Evo!!
How do I feel about the Evo..
Hmmm... EVO-lution. I was one of the very first in line at sprint and I have not put the damn thing down since. Even loosing sleep over it the phone is that awesome!
Eduel80 said:
How do I feel about the Evo..
Hmmm... EVO-lution. I was one of the very first in line at sprint and I have not put the damn thing down since. Even loosing sleep over it the phone is that awesome!
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Glad I'm not the only one. I find myself laying in bed at night doing stuff only to realize the sun is coming up....
Eduel80 said:
How do I feel about the Evo..
Hmmm... EVO-lution. I was one of the very first in line at sprint and I have not put the damn thing down since. Even loosing sleep over it the phone is that awesome!
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Ha! And my wife calls me a nerd and tells me to put it up. At least I'm not the only one.
Well, I haven't touched my laptop since Tuesday...I love it.
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Having this phone is really starting to mess with my circadian rhythm.
I don't feel anything....but there's alot I THINK about it.
I love it. It's the phone I wish I had years ago when the first iPhone came out. I had a Hero before, and I still liked my wifes 3GS, now with the larger screen of the EVO, I don't have that screen-envy anymore. The iPhone just looks tiny and awkward now.
What are the problems people in the poll are talking about? I don't have any issues with mine.
The people that come to this site repent one half of pone half of one percent of evo owners. The people you see here are either either true hackers, heard about how awesome rooting is and want to do it without reading directions, or find us by way of common search term for a specific issue they are having.
The point is, we may hear slot of complaining here, but its because we're part of a vocal and participatory minority.
I have an ipad for work, I had the pre and before that an htc touch pro before a myriad of other phones dating back to the nokia 101. The evo and android are the closest I have ever seen to fulfilling the promise of mobile technology and convenience.
The future is here, and many of the people reading these forums are holding it right now.
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My 2 Cents
I really like the EVO even though it has some issues like the Camera/Video quality for instance but most are mainly Network related so it would be a better experience had it been on T-Mobile...now the Dream/G1 A.K.A Valeria, (I named her that LOL) that's my baby, I love the **** out of that phone and still have it and probably would never get rid of it...many reasons why, it' the 1st Android phone, (so the Mother of all Androids) it's the White version (had it as soon as it was available) it was my first Smartphone and hacked phone from which I learned a little bit of Linux and it was given to me as a present on my Birthday by the love of my life...yea it's official, I'm never getting rid of that phone! Sorry, most of that had nothing to do with the EVO
I love it but my main gripes are the Android Market. Hopefully more devs make more apps or port some over. The app store isn't really organize and I would like to see some spotlighted apps or recommendations based on what apps you have installed.
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I really like the EVO even though it has some issues like the Camera/Video quality for instance but most are mainly Network related so it would be a better experience had it been on T-Mobile...now the Dream/G1 A.K.A Valeria, (I named her that LOL) that's my baby, I love the **** out of that phone and still have it and probably would never get rid of it...many reasons why, it' the 1st Android phone, (so the Mother of all Androids) it's the White version (had it as soon as it was available) it was my first Smartphone and hacked phone from which I learned a little bit of Linux and it was given to me as a present on my Birthday by the love of my life...yea it's official, I'm never getting rid of that phone! Sorry, most of that had nothing to do with the EVO
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I had the g1 too. Learned stuff with that. I had to sell mine to help me pay for this phone. I miss it, but I love the Evo.
From the HTC Evo!!
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I love it but my main gripes are the Android Market. Hopefully more devs make more apps or port some over. The app store isn't really organize and I would like to see some spotlighted apps or recommendations based on what apps you have installed.
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Yeah. The market needs to go through a major makeover. Some apps are crappy. Needs for categories.. etc. I don't even bother browsing through it. I just search and go.
From the HTC Evo!!
I love my phone....I been hoping to run into someone who has a iPhone so I can say ...hhhhhhaaaaaaa hhhhaaaaa!!!
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So I've had the EVO for about 6 months now and I really like the functionality it provides. But, I've been finding lately the the maintenance the phone requires actually takes up more time than I save by employing said functionality. I've wavered on this for a few months now but I think I'm going to "downgrade" my phone to something smaller and simpler....something to simplify my life. For those that are wondering, here are the reasons I'm done with the EVO (or similar smartphones).
Battery life
Bad signal strength
Size
Does everything okay but few things great
Crashes, hangs, other random issues (like for example, I woke up this morning and my phone was 10 minutes behind on time)
I don't want to get in a debate about the merits of the EVO vs. other phones. The EVO is one of the best phones I've had, I just think I need to simplify this portion of my life. So, here is what I would like out of a new phone.
Small, small small
Keyboard is optional
Works on Sprint
Touchscreen optional
Full web browsing in a pinch
GPS Navigation is a must
A camera would be nice but not necessary
Facebook would be nice but not necessary
Pandora would be nice but not necessary
Cheaper than the EVO
Any thoughts?
Why would you ask an EVO forum to get a good review of OTHER phones. it's an EVO forum. we're a bit biased.
I would suggest a Blackberry Curve 3G. Or any other Blackberry model for that fact.
I'm considering switching to that. I came from a Blackberry to the evo. Blackberry phones are great phones. Reliable, huge user base so a lot of people to help if you have a problem. Battery life is amazing too. The apps are getting better too. More choices.
I've been seeing Evo's sell on ebay for about 300 bucks or so, and I've seen BB Curve 3G's selling new for 250 so that's what I'm thinking about doing. I miss blackberry big time.
To the person above me: I had no problem suggesting a phone...
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I assume you are ruling out Android as a whole, so I would also go with a blackberry as the next best thing. However, coming from one to an Android device (the EVO's is my third) I will never go back to the Blackberry.
Internet just sucks in comparison, and you will likely have to pay extra for navigation and it won't be as good as Google's.
No other option in my opinion. You could try a pre, but I wouldn't.
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I have a Blackberry Curve (the newer one w/out trackball, thank god) for work and the one thing I like about it is that the battery lasts for days. That and everyone has them so BBM is nice. It's also small and really light.
However it is slooooooooooow compared to the Evo, but if you're okay with that, seems like it would fit the bill.
There's also a new full keyboard flip Blackberry for Sprint.
Probably BB. Simple and it works.
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So I've had the EVO for about 6 months now and I really like the functionality it provides. But, I've been finding lately the the maintenance the phone requires actually takes up more time than I save by employing said functionality. I've wavered on this for a few months now but I think I'm going to "downgrade" my phone to something smaller and simpler....something to simplify my life. For those that are wondering, here are the reasons I'm done with the EVO (or similar smartphones).
Battery life
Bad signal strength
Size
Does everything okay but few things great
Crashes, hangs, other random issues (like for example, I woke up this morning and my phone was 10 minutes behind on time)
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Battery life can be fixed. I can easily run an entire day on a single charge after installing setcpu, new rom, new kernel.
Signal strength isn't something I've noticed specific to the EVO. Have you talked to other people on your network with different devices?
Size, yeah, you either like big phone or you don't. I love big phones, but a lot of people think it's just way too large.
Not sure what you mean by only a few things great. It's highly customizable and fast. Not really sure what you can't do with it that you want.
Crashes.. I'd suggest custom rom, new radios, new kernel. Play around with it. Myn's 2.2 and MikFroyo 4.4 are awesome ROMs. Fast and stable for me, and a lot of people. The time thing is weird. Normally the clock doesn't update until you actually interact with the phone. Could be a different issue though.
I think a number of your complaints can be fixed with the right customization. Don't ditch a phone over issues you can fix IMO. But then again you want to "simplify" things, which leads me to believe you aren't really the kind of person who enjoy tinkering with your phone. Androids really shine when you mod them. Androids for modders, iPhones for people who just want a phone that works.
If you aren't willing, or can't, fix the problems then definitely go with a Black Berry. There are 3 phones that are awesome: iPhone, Android, BlackBerry.
Go with the cheapest blackberry Sprint is willing to offer you. It'll do what you want. They're very reliable devices, they just lack the wide range of customization you find on iPhone and Android devices, but that's because they're designed with businesses in mind. I doubt you'd be able to find a modern phone that lacks the features you want. The only thing I'm not totally sure on is pandora.
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Why would you ask an EVO forum to get a good review of OTHER phones. it's an EVO forum. we're a bit biased.
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Well of course you are I guess I figured that since this is the phone forum where I have spent the most of my time, it seemed like a good place.
I had the Palm Pre before and to be honest, there are several things (Exchange integration, multitasking, settings management) that I really miss from the Pre. That being said, the EVO obviously is much faster and does a lot more on the whole. However, I have been thinking about moving to the Pixi.
Blackberry is a good option as well. Honestly I'm open to a non-qwerty non-touch phone if it has GPS navigation.
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Battery life can be fixed. I can easily run an entire day on a single charge after installing setcpu, new rom, new kernel.
Signal strength isn't something I've noticed specific to the EVO. Have you talked to other people on your network with different devices?
Size, yeah, you either like big phone or you don't. I love big phones, but a lot of people think it's just way too large.
Not sure what you mean by only a few things great. It's highly customizable and fast. Not really sure what you can't do with it that you want.
Crashes.. I'd suggest custom rom, new radios, new kernel. Play around with it. Myn's 2.2 and MikFroyo 4.4 are awesome ROMs. Fast and stable for me, and a lot of people. The time thing is weird. Normally the clock doesn't update until you actually interact with the phone. Could be a different issue though.
I think a number of your complaints can be fixed with the right customization. Don't ditch a phone over issues you can fix IMO. But then again you want to "simplify" things, which leads me to believe you aren't really the kind of person who enjoy tinkering with your phone. Androids really shine when you mod them. Androids for modders, iPhones for people who just want a phone that works.
If you aren't willing, or can't, fix the problems then definitely go with a Black Berry. There are 3 phones that are awesome: iPhone, Android, BlackBerry.
Go with the cheapest blackberry Sprint is willing to offer you. It'll do what you want. They're very reliable devices, they just lack the wide range of customization you find on iPhone and Android devices, but that's because they're designed with businesses in mind. I doubt you'd be able to find a modern phone that lacks the features you want. The only thing I'm not totally sure on is pandora.
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I've gone that route. I've run 3 or 4 different ROMS under different kernels, and every one has it's own problem. At one point under Cyanogen I was getting 2 days battery, now inexplicably I don't get more than 10 under light use. I'm tired of having to troubleshoot problems like this. Or the fact that I woke up 10 minutes late today because my phone's time was off. Or the fact that about once every other week my Exchange account just decides to delete itself from my phone. It seems like to get what I want out of this phone, I need to spend all this time tinkering with new ROMS, new kernels, etc etc and like I said, maybe if I did more than I already have then I could get what I want out of this phone. But I don't want to spend several hours a week maintaining my phone. The EVO has huge potential and the functionality it can provide is impressive. But to me the trade off is not worth it in my life right now.
On a more philosophical note, I feel that we're in an awkward phase of smartphone development (and technology development in general). There has been a very large concentration on increasing features and functionality, but at the expense of reliability and stability. I'm waiting for us to hit a functionality/speed plateau so more work goes into integrating these features intelligently and intuitively, and making these devices rock-solid stable.
Id suggest either the BB Bold or the Iphone 4. I dont like blackberries but the bold is pretty nice.
Shane112358 said:
For those that are wondering, here are the reasons I'm done with the EVO (or similar smartphones).
Battery life
Bad signal strength
Size
Does everything okay but few things great
Crashes, hangs, other random issues (like for example, I woke up this morning and my phone was 10 minutes behind on time)
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Honestly none of those are relevant to the EVO anymore except for the size.
1. I am running Myn's Rom Stock Kernel(#15), and several Co-workers are running unrooted stock with the 3.70 OTA (Kernel #15). I get 24 hours out of a charge easily, and they are averaging 17hours. I run with GPS, mobile data, background data all on, beautiful widgets weather widget syncing every 30 minutes.
2. Signal strength is going to be poor regardless of the phone really, if your on sprint and your signal is bad with the EVO its going to be bad with other phones. I have awesome signal everywhere i go with my EVO, no dropped calls ect..
3. Size is the only thing you can argue against the EVO vs other phones, I don't feel the size is an issue at all, but thats a personal preference.
4. My EVO has been able to do everything i need it to do perfectly with no hiccups.
5. Maybe you should look at everything you've done to your phone, mine has never hung, or crashed, and the time is always spot on.
People expect everything to be perfect, but not even a laptop is perfect without a few tweaks, just like the EVO, clean up the bloat, manage your programs, and you will be fine.
Out of all your reasons for ditching the EVO, the only one i can see as the real excuse is the size, and for that maybe you should take a peek at the EVO Shift 4G, otherwise your looking for a blackberry, and they are just extremely slow when performing tasks.
this thread is funny.
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Honestly none of those are relevant to the EVO anymore except for the size.
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For you. Not relevant for you. Go look at all the people complaining about (insert one of 1000 problems here) throughout these forums. Do you think others are just making these things up?
1. I am running Myn's Rom Stock Kernel(#15), and several Co-workers are running unrooted stock with the 3.70 OTA (Kernel #15). I get 24 hours out of a charge easily, and they are averaging 17hours. I run with GPS, mobile data, background data all on, beautiful widgets weather widget syncing every 30 minutes.
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I'm glad for you. I was there too, for a few weeks. Then all of a sudden my phone would refuse to sleep. Yes I've looked into it. Going back to stock ROM fixed it, but then the battery life wasn't as good as it could be with other ROMs. And I had decreased functionality.
2. Signal strength is going to be poor regardless of the phone really, if your on sprint and your signal is bad with the EVO its going to be bad with other phones. I have awesome signal everywhere i go with my EVO, no dropped calls ect..
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I should have been more precise. I almost never drop a call, and call quality is....acceptable. But when I'm at home with 1 bar (out of 4 on Cyanogen) and 3 bars of WiFi and it takes 30 seconds to load a simple webpage (or it times out)....it's unacceptable. Again, this is ROM and kernel dependent.
3. Size is the only thing you can argue against the EVO vs other phones, I don't feel the size is an issue at all, but thats a personal preference.
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Size is usually OK for me, it bugs me once in awhile but really, I figure that a reduction in features automatically buys me a smaller device.
4. My EVO has been able to do everything i need it to do perfectly with no hiccups.
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I'm glad for you. There are many, including myself, that wish I could say the same.
5. Maybe you should look at everything you've done to your phone, mine has never hung, or crashed, and the time is always spot on.
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I've gone back to stock several times and started over. But then the battery life is horrible and it doesn't have features that I like from other ROMs.
I said I wasn't getting into a debate but I guess here I am. I love...love the functionality of the EVO much of the time. Being able to push one button and say "Navigate to Starbucks" and it just does it is badass. But when simple things like battery life, web browsing, time, Exchange sync......aren't up to par, it's hard to overlook them.
So anyways, different strokes for different folks right? If everyone had the same phone that would be boring.
I might like the iPhone 4 but refuse to pay the AT&T Premium.
I'm actually looking at the Blackberry Pearl now. I think it has most of the stuff I want. And it's small as crap and cheap.
So far the consensus is Blackberry. By the way, I stopped at a sprint store while I was shopping earlier, and I looked at the Blackberry style. The flip phone Blackberry. It did have sprint navigation, so I would assume other newer model Blackberry's would too
I wasn't fond of the idea of a flip phone Blackberry, but after playing with it, I sorta liked it. It had a real quality feel, the new Blackberry 6 os is fast.
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So far the consensus is Blackberry. By the way, I stopped at a sprint store while I was shopping earlier, and I looked at the Blackberry style. The flip phone Blackberry. It did have sprint navigation, so I would assume other newer model Blackberry's would too
I wasn't fond of the idea of a flip phone Blackberry, but after playing with it, I sorta liked it. It had a real quality feel, the new Blackberry 6 os is fast.
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Thanks. It's actually my plan today to go by the Sprint store and check out the Style.
Sounds to me like Android is right for you but the Evo isn't. Try a smaller Android phone with an LED screen that uses up less battery (Epic comes to mind). Both Epic and Evo Shift have physical keyboards. Also, if you root it, just go with the a stock rooted rom so you don't have to worry about the instabilities of using what any particular dev feels is "the best" rom. That will eliminate the time you have to invest in your phone, and you won't have to deal with a BB that can't browse the simplest webpage or can't navigate it's way out of a paper bag.
My $0.02.
Shane112358 said:
For you. Not relevant for you. Go look at all the people complaining about (insert one of 1000 problems here) throughout these forums. Do you think others are just making these things up?
I'm glad for you. I was there too, for a few weeks. Then all of a sudden my phone would refuse to sleep. Yes I've looked into it. Going back to stock ROM fixed it, but then the battery life wasn't as good as it could be with other ROMs. And I had decreased functionality.
I should have been more precise. I almost never drop a call, and call quality is....acceptable. But when I'm at home with 1 bar (out of 4 on Cyanogen) and 3 bars of WiFi and it takes 30 seconds to load a simple webpage (or it times out)....it's unacceptable. Again, this is ROM and kernel dependent.
Size is usually OK for me, it bugs me once in awhile but really, I figure that a reduction in features automatically buys me a smaller device.
I'm glad for you. There are many, including myself, that wish I could say the same.
I've gone back to stock several times and started over. But then the battery life is horrible and it doesn't have features that I like from other ROMs.
I said I wasn't getting into a debate but I guess here I am. I love...love the functionality of the EVO much of the time. Being able to push one button and say "Navigate to Starbucks" and it just does it is badass. But when simple things like battery life, web browsing, time, Exchange sync......aren't up to par, it's hard to overlook them.
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The signal bar at the top on cyanogen roms isn't your actual "cdma/cell signal strength" it's your 3g signal strength I believe...
and I highly urge you to reconsider leaving android for anything other than an iphone 4... blackberry and palm really don't have anything to offer that android or ios don't. You could try a windows phone when/if one comes out for sprint...
you come to a evo forum asking us to fined you a new phone
imho go back to a flip phone
Get yourself an optimus for $50 and call it a day. just make sure you get it by the end of the week, or you'll get hit with the premium data fee.
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And I'm thinking about picking it up. I currently have the Epic 4G and I had the Evo and honestly..I just dont like how Android is doing things. Spent more time tweaking and messing with it instead of using it as a phone and it still bugs me :/
But the point of this thread wasnt to bring that up..here's what I'd like to know:
This is how I use my phone. A few calls. I used to text a whole bunch...then I realized how dumb that was so now I only send about 20 a day. I listen to music a sht ton and I also use the browser a sht ton as well. I, however, dont use any apps other than the apps given to me from the get-go.
Would any windows phone 7's battery life be able to cover those things for at least 4-5 hours? Also, what are the biggest issues with windows phone 7 right now? And by that I simply mean problems that can be found on all phones, not just things that you dont like personally.
And I was googling and youtubing trying to answer those things for myself and I saw this one video..and this guy went to the bottom of the screen and on the bottom right it had what looked like some XBL stuff...the games on these phones run multiplayer through XBL?
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But the point of this thread wasnt to bring that up..here's what I'd like to know:
This is how I use my phone. A few calls. I used to text a whole bunch...then I realized how dumb that was so now I only send about 20 a day. I listen to music a sht ton and I also use the browser a sht ton as well. I, however, dont use any apps other than the apps given to me from the get-go. Would any windows phone 7's battery life be able to cover those things for at least 4-5 hours?
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WP7 should do this perfectly fine. The browser is great, with zune listening to Music is perfect. And from what I hear battery life in general is great.
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Also, what are the biggest issues with windows phone 7 right now? And by that I simply mean problems that can be found on all phones, not just things that you dont like personally.
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The major issues currently are, it can't connect to a hidden wifi network, the marketplace is a little buggy and will crash at times, no copy/paste if that matters to you. Though the marketplace and c/p are getting fixed in the update that is coming out in the next week or so.
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And I was googling and youtubing trying to answer those things for myself and I saw this one video..and this guy went to the bottom of the screen and on the bottom right it had what looked like some XBL stuff...the games on these phones run multiplayer through XBL?
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Full multiplayer isn't there...yet. Turn based multi-player is however
Battery life on WP is better than android in my opinion (definately depends on battery size, etc).
Windows phone is nice, I was sick of android (had an evo on sprint) as well so I jumped ship over to AT&T and got the focus. Windows phone is a breath of fresh air. Android is just so choppy and hacked together... Gingerbread is nice, but still slow compared to windows.
Yeah I have been thinking about getting the Arrive (pro7)on sprint when its released. I have played around with WP7 a few times when I go to Best Buy, and I like the simplicity of the UI. its almost like the difference between iOS and Honeycomb. I love android to death, I'm just ready for a change I guess. It's worth a try anyway, if I don't like it I can always go back to my EVO or my Shift. And from what I have read about the Arrive on Sprint, it will come with copy and paste out of the box on the 20th.
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Omega Ra said:
WP7 should do this perfectly fine. The browser is great, with zune listening to Music is perfect. And from what I hear battery life in general is great.
The major issues currently are, it can't connect to a hidden wifi network, the marketplace is a little buggy and will crash at times, no copy/paste if that matters to you. Though the marketplace and c/p are getting fixed in the update that is coming out in the next week or so.
Full multiplayer isn't there...yet. Turn based multi-player is however
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Seriously? That's all? I'm liking WP7 already! Well..I mean those are problems and I dont like problems but I dont even go to the market on my epic and I dont use wifi...I probably wouldnt have even noticed those things if I had the device and nobody brought it up.
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Battery life on WP is better than android in my opinion (definately depends on battery size, etc).
Windows phone is nice, I was sick of android (had an evo on sprint) as well so I jumped ship over to AT&T and got the focus. Windows phone is a breath of fresh air. Android is just so choppy and hacked together... Gingerbread is nice, but still slow compared to windows.
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Well I saw that this one WP7 phone had like a 1200mah battery and it got 12 hours which is pretty impressive even with medium use. I think the one for sprint will have atleast a 1500mah so Im excited! And yeah, Android is just so damn choppy...and Android does get A LOT of things right but at the same time, they get a lot wrong...which wouldnt be a problem if they planned on fixing those issues but I just dont see any fixes in the future. The OS is too busy trying to steal the gamers from iOS...providing a smooth experience just doesnt seem top priority right now...and thats a shame.
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Yeah I have been thinking about getting the Arrive (pro7)on sprint when its released. I have played around with WP7 a few times when I go to Best Buy, and I like the simplicity of the UI. its almost like the difference between iOS and Honeycomb. I love android to death, I'm just ready for a change I guess. It's worth a try anyway, if I don't like it I can always go back to my EVO or my Shift. And from what I have read about the Arrive on Sprint, it will come with copy and paste out of the box on the 20th.
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Yeah that Arrive is what Im looking forward to. And like you say, if I dont like it im in the same boat as you... I can just activate my Epic again and it'd be all good. But I doubt I'll go back.
(Note: I'm not new to Android. My recent phone history is HTC Touch Pro -> Palm Pre -> HTC Evo -> Samsung Epic -> Another Evo -> Nexus S 4G -> Epic 4G Touch and I generally spend more time modding than using it.)
Overall, I'm in love with Android. What I haven't been in love with is Samsung. IMO, The radios act up more, their release cycle sucks and now with my Epic 4G Touch losing connectivity and forcing me to reboot just to make sure it works has me at a place I've never been before.
So today I sit with another new phone on my desk, this time its an iPhone 4S.
I've used an iPad, The company issued me a MBP, so I'm not anti-Apple, but I've always sort of looked at the iPhone's as just...well....smart phones for dumb people. But like all technology, aren't we all better if we learn as much as we can?
So, if you were in my shoes, would you esn swap onto the iPhone 4S for the time being and wait until the next best Android thing that isn't Samsung, or ride out the storm and pray Samsung actually releases a fix to all there manufacturing problems? Would you trade the ability to tinker for the ability to have something reliable?
I realize I'm asking in a forum dedicated to Android, mostly because I need to be pulled back from the brink.
SOMEBODY SAVE ME! (or not)
You said it yourself its a smartphone for dumb people. Not a bad phone but I would just feel bad about myself using it. I would feel like a fan boy and it seems like your main issue here is LOS. Just use the LOS kernal and you wont have any issues I rarely lose signal using it with starburst.
IMO use the iPhone....it seems like it might be a fit for you based on your post.
However I am losing faith in sprint and their network, I am moving to Verizon ASAP might get the galaxy nexus or the RAZAR becuase at my work I get 20Mb down on LET.....yes 20!!!!....but it averages 15 to 17 down. Get out of sprint is what you need to do.
I wouldn't consider switching smartphone OSes on a temporary basis simply because of the app stores. I can't afford to repurchase all the apps I rely on on a new OS. That means I'd be running it in a limited capacity, avoiding purchasing the apps that would max out the enjoyment of the phone for me, knowing I'd eventually give it up and all the money I spent on it.
I think for some people going iPhone is legitimate and reasonable. It works better for certain personalities or needs. I don't begrudge that. But I've doubled-down on Android, and just like people wouldn't leave iPods because it meant losing all their music, I can't just switch OSes any time I want without thinking about the app investment.
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I wouldn't consider switching smartphone OSes on a temporary basis simply because of the app stores. I can't afford to repurchase all the apps I rely on on a new OS. That means I'd be running it in a limited capacity, avoiding purchasing the apps that would max out the enjoyment of the phone for me, knowing I'd eventually give it up and all the money I spent on it.
I think for some people going iPhone is legitimate and reasonable. It works better for certain personalities or needs. I don't begrudge that. But I've doubled-down on Android, and just like people wouldn't leave iPods because it meant losing all their music, I can't just switch OSes any time I want without thinking about the app investment.
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I would agree, if I didn't already have an Android tablet
Its true what you say about doubling down. Its like owning a Canon camera, all the lenses, and then trying to switch to Nikon.
I understand your fustration with LOS, but there is a way that your phone can reboot automatically when you get a LOS and it will let you know it did so. I use Starburst v1.8 with the LostKernel and I haven't seen a LOS even happen in 4 days where it use to be once a day, but when it does happen my setup takes care of it. Reboots automatically and I don't have to do anything manually - don't miss a beat.
Check out this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18728533&postcount=3022
I don't worry about LOS anymore and this phone kicks AS-phalt
We have a crackberry att, iphone 3gs att(now cancelled), epic touch 4g, and xperia play verizon. Love me some tech stuff, including all sorts of phones, no matter who makes them. After having an iphone in the house for 2+yrs, would I get rid of the epic touch, no way. Its funny that my verizon phone will drop calls while the epic keeps on ticking, so much for verizons reliable service here in Houston. If I lose signal on the touch, I have noticed I also lose signal on verizon. I just wish Sprint would get on the ball and improve the speeds to compete with big red. Best of luck in whatever you decide.
wow, another thread on this subject...
you obviously like android, and, claim to spend more time customizing your phone than actually using it; you should have read the tons of posts about how folks are dealing with their LOS.
No one here can make up your mind, except YOU...
I'm It manager for my work. No more Androids for our company. Way too many support calls for them. If someone wants Android, we will configure it once for ActiveSync/exchange and there after they are on their own, we will give them PDFs of common problems and fixes but has time goes on those PDFs will just get out of date. I don't even want BlackBerry anymore. Since everyone wants an IPhone and the cost is the same, that's our company phone. We get very little support calls about them. We will replace a broken iPhone once and the next time it is the employee's problem to replace it or will take the cost of the new one from their paycheck over a few checks.
What do I use...E4GT, I have a company issued iPhone I use to test company apps on but it generally sits in a drawer. My number is a Google Voice number so it does not matter which phone I grab during the day.
I've also owned many Android phones and I made the switch from the Epic Touch to the iPhone 4s. I'm not gonna lie, I do miss the tinkering, however, when the jailbreak is released for this phone, I think I'll be all good then.
Unlike the epic touch I have not had any issues with the iPhone at all. Everything works flawlessly from the start.
In addition, like previous poster posted above me... We also have Android devices for our work phones and almost everyday people are having issues with them. They switched us over from Blackberry's because we're starting to use google for everything.... Google docs, gmail, etc.
Furthermore I honestly don't think that the iPhone is for people who are dumb to android and/ or tinkering. I for one don't like the upgrade process for android devices. And if I'm stuck in a contract for two years with a phone, i want it to be supported for those two years. you get an iPhone you can expect it to still get updates... Look at the iPhone 3GS. When you get an android device there's no way you know for sure of your phone is going to get the next update.... Look at the epic 4g. And I know devs can put out leaked roms, but I'm talking about official updates.
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You said it yourself its a smartphone for dumb people. Not a bad phone but I would just feel bad about myself using it. I would feel like a fan boy and it seems like your main issue here is LOS. Just use the LOS kernal and you wont have any issues I rarely lose signal using it with starburst.
IMO use the iPhone....it seems like it might be a fit for you based on your post.
However I am losing faith in sprint and their network, I am moving to Verizon ASAP might get the galaxy nexus or the RAZAR becuase at my work I get 20Mb down on LET.....yes 20!!!!....but it averages 15 to 17 down. Get out of sprint is what you need to do.
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Sprint is supposed to get LTE advanced by 2013. Theoretical 1 gbs when you are stationary and 100 mbs when moving. In the real word it won't be as fast, but damn.
Sprint to roll out LTE-Advanced network by mid-2013. http://m.bgr.com/2011/10/26/sprint-to-roll-out-lte-advanced-network-by-mid-2013/
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Have you tried the stock pulled kernel? I've used that and now using the Stock pulled with CWM5 and No LOS on either. Any other kernel I use that is put together from the source though will get me LoS within hours.
Same topic..different title. Smfh
I have the iPhone side by side with my E4GT since yesterday. My goal was to configure it as close as I could to being useful to see what I would and wouldn't miss. Here's my non-fanboi list of things Android does that I can't live without:
Turn by Turn SatNav - Google does it better and the alternatives are laughable.
Google Integration - The up and down integration with contacts and other information on Google has become indispensable to me.
Icon Manipulation - I can live without a lot of the customization, but its hilarious that Apple forces you to an "always sorted, top-left to bottom-right" icon grid. Sometimes a brother just wants to have some icons above his dock.
To be fair, these are some things I noticed I could see myself liking about the iPhone:
Notification dropdown is a little more involved. Good to see Apple isn't hypocritical about stealing interface design anymore
iOS apps are first-class citizens. Almost every app that you can get on both devices is significantly more polished on iOS. For shame, developers.
Holy crap the camera is FAST
Interestingly, Google Maps looks nicer on the iPhone.
So in comparison, I like the iPhone because it feels a little more refined, but I like Android because OF Google.
I am going to reformat my E4GT again to the latest Starburst (am on 1.4 and ZedoMax) and see if I get any better performance.
Thanks everyone!
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Same topic..different title. Smfh
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And yet 90% of the comments are rational and on-topic. I appreciate all the feedback that's contributed.
I'm just curious- I just sold my E4GT for an iPhone 4S- as to what your opinions are! This will be my first iPhone, I've only had android for smartphones (well Win6.1 for a few months). (although the E4GT is still my favorite phone ever).
I know this sounds like a "I'm leaving" thread, but it isn't meant to be. Just wondering what people may like about the iPhone vs. this phone, and what they hate! For me, I'm looking forward to the battery life, and the retina display, but will miss google nav, gtalk, gmail app, the notifications, etc.
If there's anyone who has both these phones, and could give some insight, please chime in.
There's a good chance I'll be back, since I change out phones every 6 months (and I got an iPhone because I've never used that OS before, so I'm curious), but I may try Win7 mobile before coming back to android as well.
On a side note, if everyone is really just hating on this thread, and I was an idiot for creating it and causing drama, I will just close it. Sorry all, was just really curious, not trying to create anything!!
My girlfriend has the iPhone, and she loves it. You'll instantly find that without jailbreak, you really can't customize the phone. For 80% of folks that's fine, very similar to the WinPhone7 experience, but you wouldn't be on XDA if you want to keep your phone stock
I will say that the application quality is better on iOS devices, seems like developers put a little more polish into them.
I'm currently in the same dilemma... Mainly because of apps. A lot of apps on iOS either take too long, or don't get released on Android at all. -Yes we have probably almost the same amount of apps on Android as on iOS, but not quality apps. Besides, for me as a startup app developer, iOS is better for business I was waiting for the SGS III, but was disappointed. Would have gotten the One X, if sprint imo wouldn't have uglyfied it. So now I'm waiting for the new iPhone, and hopefully it won't be an iPhone 4SS. Then I might consider switching too.
PS. see, not hate we can communicate in a mature manner
I think whosdaman (Korey) just came back to the E4GT from an iPhone and he has also had the OG Epic I am sure you can get some feedback from him all around.
I havent had the chance to use one but I put it to most people like this. If you've bought into one system why switch? If you really haven't and you like the other then don't let any stop you from having it your way.
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My girlfriend has the iPhone, and she loves it. You'll instantly find that without jailbreak, you really can't customize the phone. For 80% of folks that's fine, very similar to the WinPhone7 experience, but you wouldn't be on XDA if you want to keep your phone stock
I will say that the application quality is better on iOS devices, seems like developers put a little more polish into them.
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I will definitely be jailbreaking the iPhone, I need my wifi-tether haha! Yea I'm excited for the applications, there are so much more on there. What's nice is that EA and Gameloft have a lot of sales, so all the games can be had for $0.99, if you wait for the right time (although still can't beat the market's $0.10 appsale).
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I'm just curious- I just sold my E4GT for an iPhone 4S- as to what your opinions are! This will be my first iPhone, I've only had android for smartphones (well Win6.1 for a few months). (although the E4GT is still my favorite phone ever).
I know this sounds like a "I'm leaving" thread, but it isn't meant to be. Just wondering what people may like about the iPhone vs. this phone, and what they hate! For me, I'm looking forward to the battery life, and the retina display, but will miss google nav, gtalk, gmail app, the notifications, etc.
If there's anyone who has both these phones, and could give some insight, please chime in.
There's a good chance I'll be back, since I change out phones every 6 months (and I got an iPhone because I've never used that OS before, so I'm curious), but I may try Win7 mobile before coming back to android as well.
On a side note, if everyone is really just hating on this thread, and I was an idiot for creating it and causing drama, I will just close it. Sorry all, was just really curious, not trying to create anything!!
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Their battery is about the same for me but the iPhone 4s has battery on sleep mode/ standby but the E4GT has better battery while in use but by the end of the day their battery drainage is about the same. Camera seems better on the E4GT maybe it's just the screen. Seriously though it's whatever floats your boat. You like massive apps, buying accessories and just want a simple phone then stick to the iPhone, for everything else E4GT is better in my opinion I hate the size of the iPhone screen and it gets boring after 2 days.
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I think whosdaman (Korey) just came back to the E4GT from an iPhone and he has also had the OG Epic I am sure you can get some feedback from him all around.
I havent had the chance to use one but I put it to most people like this. If you've bought into one system why switch? If you really haven't and you like the other then don't let any stop you from having it your way.
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Honestly, I love the learning process of new phones, which is why I switch so often. I still have not had a Motorola or Apple smartphone ever, so those were next on my list. I went from the Samsung Instinct to HTC Diamond to HTC Hero, to Epic 4G to E4GT, and now iPhone 4S.
I have put a lot of effort into android, but I can always come back. Plus I will admit, that I will probably spend less time on forums in general (still will be on XDA a bit) since you can't customize the iPhone as much. That was another key aspect of getting a phone like the iPhone....I will have more time to study for the GMATs instead of being drawn to all these amazing devs and their work!
I don't have an iPhone but I do have an ipad 3 and it was excruciatingly painful not having jb
And I did start slight theming for it (I just spent around 3 hours)
But **** is so complicated in theming and the file system is stupidly complicated
Who said that iPhones are simple
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I don't have an iPhone but I do have an ipad 3 and it was excruciatingly painful not having jb
And I did start slight theming for it (I just spent around 3 hours)
But **** is so complicated in theming and the file system is stupidly complicated
Who said that iPhones are simple
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I freaking hated jailbreaking the iPhone(on the 3gs days), everything stops working like Cydia when a new update/OS is available then you have to jailbreak all over again and spend so much time bringing everything back, it's one of the few updates I dont ever look forward to because of the hassle. My girl has my iPhone 4s now it had nothing to offer me that my E4GT couldn't do
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My wife and I both used to have original Evo's and about 6 months ago I went to the e4gt, and she went with the iPhone 4s. We frequently use each others phones and we both have likes and dislikes. Here are some of our big complaints:
Most of these are the obvious *****es that everyone has...
No 4G
Small screen
No back button
No external storage
Your clueless friends act like you finally decided to get a smartphone.
Positives are:
Camera is much better
High quality look and feel. (The brushed aluminum is a nice touch)
Siri is really cool. (I have tried the leaked S voice app, and I don't think we will see anything that comes close to Siri in the next couple of years)
The iOS is very polished. The cliche is true, "it just works"...
Manufacturers of other products (home or mobile audio mainly) gear everything towards iPhone.
I personally wouldn't go to an iPhone, but I like tinkering and customizing. My wife just wants stability, excellent camera, and good battery life. I definitely see the attraction of both devices. They both have their positives and negatives, it just comes down to preference. Have fun!
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I will definitely be jailbreaking the iPhone, I need my wifi-tether haha! Yea I'm excited for the applications, there are so much more on there. What's nice is that EA and Gameloft have a lot of sales, so all the games can be had for $0.99, if you wait for the right time (although still can't beat the market's $0.10 appsale).
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Yep when you try and jailbreak, that's when you realize it's not as straightforward as you'd like.
I am waiting for the new iPhone as well, as long as it has a larger screen, LTE, and maybe starting at 32gb (I wish!)
Yeah I have both and iPhone is for people who don't do a lot with their phone. Your paying sprint 10 dollars extra and you get slow 3g. And the screen is so small.
But it is a great phone. Maybe if it were bigger and had lte maybe but sprint 3g is horrible. If your on wifi its OK.
Pure ICS only
You will curse the screen for being so tiny on a daily basis.
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Yep when you try and jailbreak, that's when you realize it's not as straightforward as you'd like.
I am waiting for the new iPhone as well, as long as it has a larger screen, LTE, and maybe starting at 32gb (I wish!)
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It was really straight forward with the ipad 3
It was actually just one click not a zillion clicks like the one click roots from here (no offense to anyone intended)
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My sister has an iPhone and I just jailbroke it for her yesterday. It's amazing how you can customize it with Jailbreaking... I made her phone look like the SII haha. But I still prefer Android because you can customize more even compared to jailbroken iPhones, and jailbreaking isn't completely stable. I'd say that custom ROMs on our phone are in general (not like nightly builds, but regular ROMs) are more stable than jailbroken features on iPhones. I personally don't like the shape of the iPhone or the small screen. Siri also isn't anything special IMO because no one ever ends up using it... just something to brag with. Like I seriously haven't met anyone who used Siri on a daily basis for functionality. To be honest, it's faster looking at a weather widget or opening a weather app than telling Siri to get the weather anyways.
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It was really straight forward with the ipad 3
It was actually just one click not a zillion clicks like the one click roots from here (no offense to anyone intended)
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How is it a zillion clicks lol. The only one click root for the E4GT I have seen once the app is running, its one click. The auto rooter was never advertised as a one click if thats what you mean. Maybe something else back in the EG30 days but i cam just before EK02 went ota.
I thought about getting an iphone but several things turned me off about it. First the hardware feels dated and screen seems small compared to this phone. Second in order to do anything with the files on the phone you have to use a software interface of some sort. For example you cant just plug into any pc, xfer files then unplug, you need itunes. Finally it just feels like a dumbed down content delivery device to me. Android feels and functions like a computer and I like that. I do understand how the simplicity of iphone would appeal to many but its just not for me. I also like being a bit different and popping down my S2 on the table with all my friends iphones at the restaurant or bar.
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My job provided me with an iPhone and I use the E4GT personally.
The iPhone "just works"...but thats it...Its a no thrills phone that just works.
I personally love my E4GT but it takes much tweaking to make it yours.
I will admit. SIRI is awesome but i feel like its just a gimmick for the "Lazy" person who doesn't want to take the few extra steps to do what SIRI does for you.
It is a learning curve but in the end, it really is up to the person and their preference.
I had both, sold the iPhone. I will never own another apple device. The best thing about android is that its open source. That is how things should be. The iPhone was too small, not customizable, and the majority of the apps are paid apps. Also, downloads took FOREVER! I also tried a Galaxy Nexus and sold it this morning. Im sticking with the E4GT until something freaking spectacular pops up. My main things about the E4GT that keep me here: Processor is fast, screen looks fantastic, camera is badass, and the roms are plentiful.
I owned iPhones for years, the biggest deal breaker by far is the tiny screen size. Buy even if it was a larger screen I would never ever be able to go back.
I do see how it is better for average users who just want something that is easy and works out of the box
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