Okay guys I know many xda'ers don't hold apple in high regard but my girlfriend is looking to upgrade her blackberry soon. I would just like some opinions of the dinc2 and if anyone has used an ip4 as well and how do they compare? Hows the camera and video capture on dinc2? Also most likely I will be rooting her phone if she gets the dinc2 because she loves miui and wondering how easy it is to root it, Ive read the alpharev thread and I think I have the gist of it. Thanks any thoughts and opinions would be awesome.
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chewbz said:
Okay guys I know many xda'ers don't hold apple in high regard but my girlfriend is looking to upgrade her blackberry soon. I would just like some opinions of the dinc2 and if anyone has used an ip4 as well and how do they compare? Hows the camera and video capture on dinc2? Also most likely I will be rooting her phone if she gets the dinc2 because she loves miui and wondering how easy it is to root it, Ive read the alpharev thread and I think I have the gist of it. Thanks any thoughts and opinions would be awesome.
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I have chick friends that love the inc2, and I have chick friends that love the iphone4, depends on what she or U lol plan to do to it, root, jailbreak, ect..or nothing. if she wants basic go apple. if you want great community support go android.
Its not like android would be particularly difficult to get the hang of, hell my grandpa uses a Droid X. The iPhone isn't going to do anything the inc 2 can't, at this point I think people buy apple due to the perceived status.
And rooting is very simple, its not "one-click" easy, but if you're computer literate its easy. Literally takes a couple minutes once you're ready to go.
I do like the design of apple products but the company and its beloved followers I can't stand. In the end it is up to her but she weighs a lot on my opinion and told her I would ask the fine people at xda as well lol! Also I am cashing out 100 dollars to help pay for it too, and since I got a nexus, I'm hoping she pics the dinc2 .
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chewbz said:
I do like the design of apple products but the company and its beloved followers I can't stand. In the end it is up to her but she weighs a lot on my opinion and told her I would ask the fine people at xda as well lol! Also I am cashing out 100 dollars to help pay for it too, and since I got a nexus, I'm hoping she pics the dinc2 .
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Put it this way. you can get an iPhone and be stuck with iOS and whatever memory size you happen to choose forever (not to mention feel bitter once the next iPhone comes out).
Or you can get the more recent, more technically advanced DInc2, and be able interchange SD cards and Batteries, and switch HTC Sense, AOSP, or MIUI (which is basically iOS, except better because you can use widgets and everything else that makes Android awesome). In my opinion, if you fall prey to the flashy logos, sleek design and massive marketing and ignore the obvious advantages of the HTC android phones, then you deserve to be pigeon-holed in with the mouth-breathers that stand outside the Apple Store all night waiting for the iPad 3 to come out so it can (not) run flash up to 3X faster!
The only problem is I wouldn't get too excited about rooting the Inc2 off the jump because if you get one now it's likely to come with Gingerbread (unless one has been sitting on a shelf for a bit). If you get one, you better get it quick. Froyo had the only known root method and no telling how long it'll take to crack Gingerbread
That said, even in the situation that I didn't root, I have the Incredible 2 and I'd take it over the iPhone easily. HTC sense is really not a bad UI at all, slower than AOSP of course but of all the manufacturer skins on top of Android, Sense UI is by far the most useful.
The biggest problem with the iPhone 4 (to me) is that it doesn't really multitask and the hardware is starting to get a bit dated. The iPhone 4 isn't "slow" by any means, but most modern Android phones will run circles around it. The Dinc2 has good battery life too, I have to absolutely abuse mine for it not to last a whole day easily
If you do happen to get one with Froyo, AlpharevX is as painless as it gets. S-off and it installs clockworkmod recovery for you if you elect to.
Thanks guys, told her what you guys said and she is like 100 % sure she wants the dinc2 Now I'm excited, I get to play with 2 phones, hopefully she'll get one with froyo. If not I can always install adw or go luancher if she doesn't like sense.
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If she's coming from Blackberry and uses a ton of photo/video out of the phone the iphone may be better for you.
I switched my wife over from an Inc 1 to the iPhone and she's in love with it. The camera is unrivaled to be brutally honest, it smokes any android phones camera and i'd love for my inc2 to have the same quality.
Basically she's not a tech person, she needed easy, something that took good pictures, and battery. The inc2 has great battery but still nowhere near the IP4.
I've owned both, and I would never personally go back to an iPhone, but for my wife it was perfect for her, and she would never give hers up.
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Thanks guys, told her what you guys said and she is like 100 % sure she wants the dinc2 Now I'm excited, I get to play with 2 phones, hopefully she'll get one with froyo. If not I can always install adw or go luancher if she doesn't like sense.
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If you get one with Gingerbread on it, you can still S-OFF using the clip method.
If you're getting it new from Verizon I can't think of why it wouldn't be on froyo, unless HTC is already shipping out new units with gingerbread. Just don't take the OTA if you want root.
yeah she told me that she "didn't want to fall to the hype of iphone" lol. She just wants a bigger screen, and she always carries around a point and shoot where ever she goes so camera i'snt really that big of a deal. Also the Dinc2 is 50 dollars less than the iphone at bestbuy. All in all she goes one week to make up her mind lol!
well, the way I see it is that an iphone 4 is pretty much an ipod touch that you can make calls with. the other advantage, which is the main one i'd say, is that if you have a nice sound system in your car and the deck has an AUX in then absolutely nothing can compare with the output quality of an ipod touch/iphone.
ive tried mp3 players from creative, sansa(even with rockbox), sony, etc... even tried different phones(mytouch 3g, htc hd2, samsung galaxy s, and my current incredible 2). no matter how you adjust the eq's or what apps you use(even poweramp), they still do not compare to apple.
but, if you arent planning on doing that in your car then theres no point in getting an iphone4(especially now that android has Plants vs Zombies).
Best advice when choosing a device:
Go to a store with active devices and play with them. Spend some time with them. If you know people with the devices in mind, ask them if you can play with them and get to know them. Make the choice based on your experience, not the advice of others, because it all comes down to personal preference.
As much as I am a big fan of Android and Android devices, and despite the fact that I will never choose an iOS device, I would recommend a person try it before rejecting it.
My sister tried going from a blackberry to an Android device and found one very big legitimate problem with it. She's on Sprint and doesn't have the iPhone as a choice so she went back to blackberry. She liked Android, but that one glaring flaw was enough to push her away from it (at least for now). Of course, the same flaw exists on the iPhone so she's doomed to be stuck on blackberry (yeah, I hate blackberry).
If you want to know the flaw: She can make calls and do certain tasks without looking at her device. With Android, she was unable to do this. I'm betting with something like a Droid Pro this wouldn't be an issue, and the voice command features Android has acquired more recently would help a little, but it's not where she could get as proficient at it as she is with her blackberry.
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If you want to know the flaw: She can make calls and do certain tasks without looking at her device. With Android, she was unable to do this. I'm betting with something like a Droid Pro this wouldn't be an issue, and the voice command features Android has acquired more recently would help a little, but it's not where she could get as proficient at it as she is with her blackberry.
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Just out of curiosity, what kind of certain tasks? Is it a difference between having physical buttons versus softkeys?
EDIT: NVM.. I think I figured out what you might be referring to. That's an issue I have as well, but voice is a big help in it (even if not 100%).
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Just out of curiosity, what kind of certain tasks? Is it a difference between having physical buttons versus softkeys?
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Something like that. It's mostly a problem with her particular usage. She gets tactile feedback for what she is trying to do and can generally get things done without looking at her device. She's a pretty big multitasker so this is important to her. Unfortunately, this also helps her use her device in the car (I wish she wouldn't TBH).
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Something like that. It's mostly a problem with her particular usage. She gets tactile feedback for what she is trying to do and can generally get things done without looking at her device. She's a pretty big multitasker so this is important to her. Unfortunately, this also helps her use her device in the car (I wish she wouldn't TBH).
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Tactile feel = knowing keyboard layout. I was real good at punching out emails on my 9700 without looking at it for most of the email. Same with the car use, which I definitely no longer do (despite the fact that it is now also illegal here).
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Loved you very much. Moved onto a Backflip. Couldn't take the lack of support for the speaker on Android. For those of you looking for an Android phone I recommend the Backflip... It's slicker, and even better: it's free with a new plan on AT&T
Even still good luck with this Android port.
If anyone wants to buy a used T-Mobile Touch Pro 2 I'm selling it on eBay and it's only at 125$ bidding so far...
The backflip is literally the worst Android phone made. Just trying searching google or side loading apps on it. You will be unpleasantly surprised.
Yeah, I'm moving to a iPhone next week and will also be putting my TP2 on eBay. Good luck on ur eBay auction.
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LOL
There is a reason that with a new contract the backflip is free and the TP2 is still $250....
Motorola makes crap.
wow
this thread is pointless
It's ok, I just got a TP2 so there will always be new users!
no one cares... what is this? craigslist? go advertise somewhere else.
wow just wow
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Loved you very much. Moved onto a Backflip. Couldn't take the lack of support for the speaker on Android. For those of you looking for an Android phone I recommend the Backflip... It's slicker, and even better: it's free with a new plan on AT&T
Even still good luck with this Android port.
If anyone wants to buy a used T-Mobile Touch Pro 2 I'm selling it on eBay and it's only at 125$ bidding so far...
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ok honestly you just made the WORST decision in history! why the heck would you drop the TP2 for the crappiest phone on the planet? slicker and better is more like uglier and horrible, worst perfomance, and of course Android Market is locked down, you cant load any third party apps! and why you didnt get the Aria? its 10000x more better but whatever and moving to a backflip just because you couldnt get speaker support on the Android port is a real unacceptable excuse, its a PORT! TouchPro2 was made for Windows Mobile, dont expect the devs to make everything to work in one shot, it seems like you insulted the port project by moving to an actual android because lack of sound, dont worry youll regret the whole decision!
ugh my venting session is done -.- total pointless thread, sorry but i just had to rant, because thats the worst decision ive seen from a consumer
xero_racer, roast much lol, I agree with you and all, cause Im like big time trying my best to get the sound working, and I am a noob when it comes to all of this, but im still tryin cause I speak tiny amounts of C++.and I can usually figure stuff out, and this kinda upset me cause that just makes me feel like i'm wasting my time towards something that people wont appreciate...
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Yeah. I haven't heard anything good about the Motorola Droid or the Droid X. /s
Just because one phone cost more than another doesn't mean squat.
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I haven't heard anything good about the Motorola Droid or the Droid X. /s
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Odd. The droid is one of the best performing phones on the market, period. The build quality is unusually high for Motorola. I'm sure the Droid X follows suit, the specs are nothing to laugh at.
Motorola Android phones that have extremely LOW build quality and are also low spec'ed:
Cliq
Cliq XT
Backflip
always liked the nexus one for a native android phone, just not a phone i feel like buying though.
Nice. Motorola's cell phones almost shut their entire mobile division down. The droid was their saving grace, but the backflip and the cliq have been plagued with problems, including a possible lack of upgradability to eclair without rooting. Lack of sound is to be expected in a build that's still in development, I hope you didn't get this pone with the sole intent of installing android.
Sorry about your lack of taste, but you should expect to be flamed when opening a thread bashing an excellent piece of hardware.
ive been thinking about switching to an android phone. but not a backflip. its horrible. its slow, ugly, outdated, have you tried using that thing they call a keyboard? my brother has an aria and i love it, but id prefer something like a touch pro 2 with android. i might settle in the future for something like a nexus one with an htc sense rom. a sense rom is whats tempting.
Have u ever used a backflip or cliq?
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The backflip is literally the worst Android phone made. Just trying searching google or side loading apps on it. You will be unpleasantly surprised.
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Totally second that lol
what about the Samsung Epic 4G. It has almost the same form factor as the tp2 but a larger screen.
I cant wait to get that in gsm.
The Backflip is not that bad depending on what type of user you are. If you active in this forum then most likely it is not the phone for you. My wife got one and she loves it. She is not a power user though. She likes to make phone calls, text messaging, the occasional photo upload, very light web surfing and facebook. She has no interest in side loading apps or any of that other stuff. For her the backflip suites all of her need.
For anyone else here that would like to switch over to a native Android phone I suggest you take a look at the Samsung Captivate. It is a highly anticipated phone and is supposed to be just as powerful as the Droid X. It releases this coming sunday the 18th of July. For those of you who can't live without a keyboard then you maybe out of luck cause the Backflip is the only Android phone on AT&T witih a keyboard.
I myself am a power user who needs the latest and greatest in both hardware and software. I though have grown very tired of Windows Mobile and the daily reboots just to keep it running well enough to use. I am also out of patients waiting for a full working port of Android. The developers here do an awsome job and I am not puttingi them down. I just want to switch to Android and I want to do it yesterday. I to have put my Tilt 2 up on Ebay and will be purchasing the Captivate this coming Sunday.
Samsung Epic 4G/Captivate/Vibrant/Fascinate (all versions of the Samsung Galaxy S) looks like the go-to phone if you're leaving XDAndroid. I'll probably be getting the Vibrant once it's released on T-mo.
Nothing against the Rhodium, but mine's beat up (probably only good for parts) and I don't normally keep a phone as long as I've kept this one. If anyone needs a t-mobile Touch Pro 2 for parts or whatever, PM me after the 15th.
Woah
Am i missing something or did any one realize he spelled goodbye wrong?
I'm an original at&t iPhone guy who switched to Verizon about a year ago when the android finally started making me drool over its superior look, feel and operation.
The fact that its open source and has far better customization, sold me in a heartbeat. I started with a Samsung fascinate and was sorely dissapointed. The phone always had bugs and never ran properly. Even after a much awaited froyo update.
I traded my fascinate on craigslist for my dinc about 4 months ago and was very impressed not only with the lack of bugs and lagginess but also at the development that has occurred. The devs for this phone are freakin awesome!!! Thanks guys!!
Now I see dual core processors and larger screens taking over the android market as well as an upcoming iPhone 5 that, I'm sure will live up to the apple name.
My question is simple. Should I keep my dinc until its done, should I upgrade to a newer android device or should I cross back to the dark side and have apple tell me what's good for me once again? Hmmmmmmm.....
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Nothing is worthy of replacing the inc yet. I look daily. Lol
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wollitaj said:
I'm an original at&t iPhone guy who switched to Verizon about a year ago when the android finally started making me drool over its superior look, feel and operation.
The fact that its open source and has far better customization, sold me in a heartbeat. I started with a Samsung fascinate and was sorely dissapointed. The phone always had bugs and never ran properly. Even after a much awaited froyo update.
I traded my fascinate on craigslist for my dinc about 4 months ago and was very impressed not only with the lack of bugs and lagginess but also at the development that has occurred. The devs for this phone are freakin awesome!!! Thanks guys!!
Now I see dual core processors and larger screens taking over the android market as well as an upcoming iPhone 5 that, I'm sure will live up to the apple name.
My question is simple. Should I keep my dinc until its done, should I upgrade to a newer android device or should I cross back to the dark side and have apple tell me what's good for me once again? Hmmmmmmm.....
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I'm keeping my Dinc until it's upgrade time (beginning of Jan 2012), and if there is no suitable replacement (for my tastes) then I have no problems sticking with the Dinc. It's a great phone and will still be a great phone in 6 months from now.
As for switching to iPhone, that's a matter of preference. I'm a Mac user that prefers Android over iOS because iOS doesn't have the flexibility and functionality that Android does. I do think that iOS can be prettier and more polished in some ways, but the functionality of an Android phone is worth more than the eye candy of iOS.
I would say the only worthy upgrade seems to be the SGS2(if it has lte) or the Nexus 4G/htc verzion that are rumored for this fall/winter.
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I would say the only worthy upgrade seems to be the SGS2(if it has lte) or the Nexus 4G/htc verzion that are rumored for this fall/winter.
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HTC Nexus on Verizon *drooool*
I did a long hard search and honestly there is nothing better than the DINC right now.
The Droid incredible 2 I still wouldn't take just because of the lack of development.
I'd be surprised if Verizon would allow a stock phone without bloatware all over the damn place.. I'd love if I was wrong but I wouldn't be surprised if it was still a sprint phone. Saw an article about how sprint is now going to be removing bloatware or making it uninstallable. Pretty respectable move IMO, but I can't see Verizon following suit.
actually the nexus 4g lte is rumored to go to At&t with their new 4g lte network not verizons and sprint sort of exagerates "lies" the removal of bloatware because you can only remove 5 or so apps
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HTC Nexus on Verizon *drooool*
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Ill tell ya what, if the next nexus is truely an HTC phone on Verizon, I will definitely get it. Its the best of everything android stands for. Open source vanilla OS and superior hardware. HTC is, by far, my top pick for any android phone!!!! And ics, come on.... What more can u ask for?
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I'm keeping my Dinc until it's upgrade time (beginning of Jan 2012), and if there is no suitable replacement (for my tastes) then I have no problems sticking with the Dinc. It's a great phone and will still be a great phone in 6 months from now.
As for switching to iPhone, that's a matter of preference. I'm a Mac user that prefers Android over iOS because iOS doesn't have the flexibility and functionality that Android does. I do think that iOS can be prettier and more polished in some ways, but the functionality of an Android phone is worth more than the eye candy of iOS.
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That's when I have my upgrade option as well and honestly I'm thinking about switching to Sprint. They have been getting some of the best phones lately. When I look at Verizon's line up and upcoming it seems to be all of the same.
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actually the nexus 4g lte is rumored to go to At&t with their new 4g lte network not verizons and sprint sort of exagerates "lies" the removal of bloatware because you can only remove 5 or so apps
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Hm i didn't see that.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/19/sprints-fared-adib-we-made-a-conscious-decision-to-scale-back/
Man, there STILL isn't anything even being talked about to be released to consider. Disappointing!
The only consolation is that we still have one of the best phones out there.
I have incredible faith (heh heh) in our devs. Seeing as the inc2 has just been rooted and we have the 2 big boys, cm7 and Miui already available for the device, i believe ill be accidentally taking a shower with my Dinc in my pocket in the next few weeks.
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Man, there STILL isn't anything even being talked about to be released to consider. Disappointing!
The only consolation is that we still have one of the best phones out there.
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Also, as far as I'm concerned, as long as the devs hold in there with this phone until the end of this year and port ICS, I will probably keep this phone until it dies.
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Im keeping my Incredible until 3/13/13. Then i dont know if my girlfriend gets my upgrade or i do.
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What's next is called the Thunderbolt. It's got a screen bright enough to read, battery life... well, anything has batter battery life than a dInc, absolutely stupid-fast 4G, a stupid-fast CPU that EASILY clocks up to 1.6GHz, and a screen big enough for a keyboard. I lived with the dInc for a long time, longer than any other phone I've ever had. I cannot for the life of me understand how anyone can say with a straight face that the original dInc isn't bested yet. There is literally nothing that the dInc does as well, let alone better, than either the Thunderbolt or the dInc2.
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I'd be surprised if Verizon would allow a stock phone without bloatware all over the damn place.. I'd love if I was wrong but I wouldn't be surprised if it was still a sprint phone. Saw an article about how sprint is now going to be removing bloatware or making it uninstallable. Pretty respectable move IMO, but I can't see Verizon following suit.
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Verizon gets a small incentive from the companies of the bloatware, that's why they put them on there. and i don't think verizon will ever get a nexus bone stock android phone, i really don't, here is why. Verizon isn't really out there for the consumer, they are out there for the profit. hence why, i mean at t-mobile and ATT, if you want a new phone, no problem, walk into the store, and get one at the upgrade price....in the middle of your contract.
Verizon hasn't gotten the idea of that just yet. plus like other companies, verizon does have shareholders to report to (and they aren't happy, they think the data plan changes will ruin their investment)
the only reason i have verizon is because that's the only carrier here with decent coverege, and they really aren't as bad as people make them out to be.
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What's next is called the Thunderbolt. It's got a screen bright enough to read, battery life... well, anything has batter battery life than a dInc,
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that's your oppinion.
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absolutely stupid-fast 4G, a stupid-fast CPU that EASILY clocks up to 1.6GHz, and a screen big enough for a keyboard.
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yeah, we can overclock any phone, and switch to landscape mode to type somthing. and 4G isn't nationwide in every single town yet, i want to know people seem to think that. and not everyone wants a big-ass phone in their pockets. i have somtuing called a laptop, and it works just great if i want somthing better than 3.5 inches
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I lived with the dInc for a long time, longer than any other phone I've ever had. I cannot for the life of me understand how anyone can say with a straight face that the original dInc isn't bested yet.
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maybe because we have devs who already got it to gingerbread? and with that logic everyone in this country on the roads should be driving brand new 2012 model year cars, right now. people are happy with what they have and they make it better. not everyone has 500+ dollars to spend on a new phone everytime they come out.
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There is literally nothing that the dInc does as well, let alone better, than either the Thunderbolt or the dInc2.
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really? there isn't much difference, gingerbread as i said above, is already on various roms for the dinc. the main selling point for the t-bolt right now is that it's a 4g CAPABLE phone. if you are not in a 4g area, you will get 3g coverege. my area won't get 4g until a few years from now. and no, i don't live in "podunk nebraska" i live in a town of about 48,500+ people.
the way you pimp the freaking t-bolt so much... the thunderbolt threads are down there
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that's your oppinion.
yeah, we can overclock any phone, and switch to landscape mode to type somthing. and 4G isn't nationwide in every single town yet, i want to know people seem to think that. and not everyone wants a big-ass phone in their pockets. i have somtuing called a laptop, and it works just great if i want somthing better than 3.5 inches
maybe because we have devs who already got it to gingerbread? and with that logic everyone in this country on the roads should be driving brand new 2012 model year cars, right now. people are happy with what they have and they make it better. not everyone has 500+ dollars to spend on a new phone everytime they come out.
really? there isn't much difference, gingerbread as i said above, is already on various roms for the dinc. the main selling point for the t-bolt right now is that it's a 4g CAPABLE phone. if you are not in a 4g area, you will get 3g coverege. my area won't get 4g until a few years from now. and no, i don't live in "podunk nebraska" i live in a town of about 48,500+ people.
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Guess what? I had a dInc2 to play with for a week and I still have my Tbolt and I'm about to kernel up my old dInc, so yeah, I've got a hell of a lot more clue than pretty much everyone on this thread as to what I'm talking about. My dInc has been running GB for quite a while now. So has my Bolt. The dInc2 did EVERYTHING faster than the original, running bone stock firmware!
I'm not gonna make excuses for the Bolt. The firmware for that phone, and a good number of the leaks have been lousy. But, the more recent leaks have yielded absolutely bullet-proof, flowing-water smooth ROMs. The question was "What's next?". That big plate of glass next to me IS what's next. There is no question about it. It's not opinion. As for 4G, when towns like Fostoria, OH pop up with LTE, I'm thinking very broad coverage on this side of the Mississippi is clearly coming.... well before my contract is up. Hell! Even 3G is faster on the dInc2 and Tbolt, if for no other reason than they have the power to render things quicker. I'm glad people are happy with what they have. The dInc was, and still is, a solid, modern phone more capable than many devices to come after it. Too bad it looks pretty dated in light of Tbolts and dInc2's and several other phones. When I read someone write something like "I keep looking and I don't see anything that measures up to the dInc", I'm wondering how much crack they smoke. You're either insane, on drugs, or oblivious to reality to think that.
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Guess what? I had a dInc2 to play with for a week and I still have my Tbolt and I'm about to kernel up my old dInc, so yeah, I've got a hell of a lot more clue than pretty much everyone on this thread as to what I'm talking about. My dInc has been running GB for quite a while now. So has my Bolt. The dInc2 did EVERYTHING faster than the original, running bone stock firmware!
I'm not gonna make excuses for the Bolt. The firmware for that phone, and a good number of the leaks have been lousy. But, the more recent leaks have yielded absolutely bullet-proof, flowing-water smooth ROMs. The question was "What's next?". That big plate of glass next to me IS what's next. There is no question about it. It's not opinion. As for 4G, when towns like Fostoria, OH pop up with LTE, I'm thinking very broad coverage on this side of the Mississippi is clearly coming.... well before my contract is up. Hell! Even 3G is faster on the dInc2 and Tbolt, if for no other reason than they have the power to render things quicker. I'm glad people are happy with what they have. The dInc was, and still is, a solid, modern phone more capable than many devices to come after it. Too bad it looks pretty dated in light of Tbolts and dInc2's and several other phones. When I read someone write something like "I keep looking and I don't see anything that measures up to the dInc", I'm wondering how much crack they smoke. You're either insane, on drugs, or oblivious to reality to think that.
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Wow man way to be a total ****. I have an incredible and my brother has a Tbolt, I can honestly say I prefer mine over it.
Besides that, although the Tbolt and INC2 *are* upgrades from the INC- for most people they just aren't worth someone's 2-year contract or full retail to get that sort of an upgrade. You've been out of the INC scene for a while it looks like.. and DEV's here are still putting out loads of stuff every day increasing performance/battery life/features -- moreso than INC2 or Thunderbolt since they've been out a shorter time. The INC2 even has issues now where if you buy it and it comes with GB, you can't even root it.
4G is extremely scarce, if you drive out 5 miles from whatever city you're in then you're out of luck as far as 4G goes. 4G is nowhere in my state yet, not even in our capitol (Richmond) and it looks like it'll be at least a year, probably more until we get it. The 3G, at least where I'm at, is fantastically good. I get 320kb/s on a good day and low 200's/kb/s during peak hours. That's enough to stream Colbert report, download movies (I've downloaded 4 so far) and watch netflix without pauses or hiccups.
So.. even if there WAS 4G in my area there really isn't any need that I get it since I don't normally watch HD movies on a ~4" screen or tether it to a datacenter.
Your opinion and mine.. but you don't need to flaunt around your phone while downing the INC (on our own forums) which is a perfectly awesome phone.
I just wanted to bring up this discussion again and get some people's thought on changing from inc2 to X2. Especially since the root on 2.3.3 is taking a long time.
My brother has the X2, and given that it has root, unlike my inc2 with 2.3.3, I've been highly tempted to switch; Then, I noticed something that really makes me want to make the switch:
His reception is continuously a few bars higher than mine- given the better reception, available root (I just rooted his phone for him this morning), dual core, and better resolution- I am highly tempted... What are your thoughts? I know it has less ram, but he's never had any problems with it...
I also like the dedicated buttons for home and such- you can actually hold the phone slightly differently than the Inc2 because of this, and its kinda nice.. Although, I do like the ease of the HTC touch buttons...
I'm not trying to hate- I've been an loyal HTC user since the XV-6800.
So how about it community of awesomeness- Would you make the change if given the opportunity to do it for free?
motorola products are well built...but u will be the running the stock kernel until the end of time, regardless of 2nd init
also i hate motorola so im prejudiced
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I just wanted to bring up this discussion again and get some people's thought on changing from inc2 to X2. Especially since the root on 2.3.3 is taking a long time.
My brother has the X2, and given that it has root, unlike my inc2 with 2.3.3, I've been highly tempted to switch; Then, I noticed something that really makes me want to make the switch:
His reception is continuously a few bars higher than mine- given the better reception, available root (I just rooted his phone for him this morning), dual core, and better resolution- I am highly tempted... What are your thoughts? I know it has less ram, but he's never had any problems with it...
I also like the dedicated buttons for home and such- you can actually hold the phone slightly differently than the Inc2 because of this, and its kinda nice.. Although, I do like the ease of the HTC touch buttons...
I'm not trying to hate- I've been an loyal HTC user since the XV-6800.
So how about it community of awesomeness- Would you make the change if given the opportunity to do it for free?
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The cell reception isn't actually much better. Compare the dbm in about phone and you will see that the bars don't tell the whole story.
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I just rooted an X2 and upgraded it to a zipaligned deodexed and debloated 2.3.3.
The thing wasn't even close to my inc2 in speed, not even in the same zipcode.
Unless you need root desperately, i'd wait. The specs on the motorola may look strong, but you stick the 2 phones together and rooted inc2 with a good rom is going to smoke that thing to pieces any day.
I've hated every Moto I've had the misfortune of owning. That includes the X. Since you're asking for opinion I'd say hell no. No Moto is as good as the Inc2 right now. The dual core will be crap compared to the 1.5 dual snapdragon anyway
I switched from the X2 to the INC2. That stock X2 had more bugs than than the amazon rainforest! I couldn't even play an MP3 without it skipping when trying to run another app. IMHO, there is nowhere near enough RAM on the X2, especially for a dual core. With light use, the available RAM was well below 100MB. On many occasions, the available RAM was below 50Mbs. I would advise anyone to run, not walk, from the X2 as quick as possible. The users with bad experiences far out number those with good. And those with good experiences, I think have just become complacent with a sub-par device. That's my 2 cents. Having used both phones, I can honestly say the INC2 will run circles around the X2. All the tweaks in the world won't give the X2 more RAM.
These posts have been very insightful. I suppose I will wait for the root on the Inc2- At least we can do WiFi sharing, that's one of the major things I wanted to get out of a root anyhow. I just wish we could get rid of all that VZW crap
Thanks again community- ya never fail
A deblurred, deodexed, debloated, zipalinged Droid X2 wouldn't be bad. But IMO we shouldn't have to do all of that to make a phone function like the DInc2.
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I work for Big Red and from my sales experience I would not take a X2 if it was a gift. From the X to the X2 has been a constant headache. The Dinc2 is like a zippy exotic sports car and the MOTO X is like a Chevy Camaro with a supercharged engine but only has a 5 gallon gas tank.
I believe it was Phonescoop that did a great write up on the Dinc2. In short they said: The HTC Droid Incredible 2 is a fluid machine with updates to 2.3.3 but like its older brother the Droid Incredible it will be in the shadows of the other phones launching. The 4g line and X2 will hog up air time and billboard space. While the Dinc2 will only be seen as the red headed step child.
Ok that is my take on what they said but it is true.
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I'm actually kinda liking the Droid 3. Keyboard.
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One of my inlaws has an X2, and it does indeed get a considerably stronger signal than the Inc2, but personally, I can't stand everything else about it - the size, the crazy shape, the locked boot loader, the physical buttons and the widly reported bugs.
Yeah- it is rather square- actually, I'm pretty sure I would really regret going from an uber sexy phone to the X2. The decision has been made, I'm getting asurion to send me another Inc2.
Today my sister had a problem with her Inc2, it randomly went into global mode and she had to do a hard reset to get it back on the CDMA network- anyone else have this problem? I've had my inc2 do it to me a couple times which is why I am having asurion send me another new device...
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Yeah- it is rather square- actually, I'm pretty sure I would really regret going from an uber sexy phone to the X2. The decision has been made, I'm getting asurion to send me another Inc2.
Today my sister had a problem with her Inc2, it randomly went into global mode and she had to do a hard reset to get it back on the CDMA network- anyone else have this problem? I've had my inc2 do it to me a couple times which is why I am having asurion send me another new device...
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Glad you decided to stay! Because rooting just became possible! See what patience can do?
After alot of problems with a d2g I got vz to replace it with a dinc2(not here yet). So I've done alot of research today and saw a crapload of videos reviews mostly and I have to say that the software on the dinc2 will be better then motos. Haven't used it but I Already know that based on what i've seen. I started out my droid journey with an eris and let's be honest that phone stunk. So with that had a bad taste in my mouth with htc and sense. I got a dx and never considered an htc device again until I actually took a look at the inc2. I'm happy with my d3 don't get me wrong but I may have went with it. Prior to actually checking the phones out they seemed kinda feminine with their rainbow wallpapers but after seeing its capabilities I may give my old lady the d3 and keep the inc2
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Root now available? Absolutely amazing! Those guys over at revolutionary are truly amazing. I'm glad I didn't buy an xtc clip today like I was planning on doing.
I had the inc1 and gore insurance to upgrade me to the inc2 for free- I am very pleased. It is quite a bit more zippy than the inc1 and when I talked to the guy at asurion, he said the inc2 was the phone that worked the best; that is, he almost never got a call about problema on the inc2.
I can't wait to see what this phone can do now that the bulk of inc2 users can finally root! The developers on this site are truly amazing.
I'm just curious- I just sold my E4GT for an iPhone 4S- as to what your opinions are! This will be my first iPhone, I've only had android for smartphones (well Win6.1 for a few months). (although the E4GT is still my favorite phone ever).
I know this sounds like a "I'm leaving" thread, but it isn't meant to be. Just wondering what people may like about the iPhone vs. this phone, and what they hate! For me, I'm looking forward to the battery life, and the retina display, but will miss google nav, gtalk, gmail app, the notifications, etc.
If there's anyone who has both these phones, and could give some insight, please chime in.
There's a good chance I'll be back, since I change out phones every 6 months (and I got an iPhone because I've never used that OS before, so I'm curious), but I may try Win7 mobile before coming back to android as well.
On a side note, if everyone is really just hating on this thread, and I was an idiot for creating it and causing drama, I will just close it. Sorry all, was just really curious, not trying to create anything!!
My girlfriend has the iPhone, and she loves it. You'll instantly find that without jailbreak, you really can't customize the phone. For 80% of folks that's fine, very similar to the WinPhone7 experience, but you wouldn't be on XDA if you want to keep your phone stock
I will say that the application quality is better on iOS devices, seems like developers put a little more polish into them.
I'm currently in the same dilemma... Mainly because of apps. A lot of apps on iOS either take too long, or don't get released on Android at all. -Yes we have probably almost the same amount of apps on Android as on iOS, but not quality apps. Besides, for me as a startup app developer, iOS is better for business I was waiting for the SGS III, but was disappointed. Would have gotten the One X, if sprint imo wouldn't have uglyfied it. So now I'm waiting for the new iPhone, and hopefully it won't be an iPhone 4SS. Then I might consider switching too.
PS. see, not hate we can communicate in a mature manner
I think whosdaman (Korey) just came back to the E4GT from an iPhone and he has also had the OG Epic I am sure you can get some feedback from him all around.
I havent had the chance to use one but I put it to most people like this. If you've bought into one system why switch? If you really haven't and you like the other then don't let any stop you from having it your way.
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My girlfriend has the iPhone, and she loves it. You'll instantly find that without jailbreak, you really can't customize the phone. For 80% of folks that's fine, very similar to the WinPhone7 experience, but you wouldn't be on XDA if you want to keep your phone stock
I will say that the application quality is better on iOS devices, seems like developers put a little more polish into them.
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I will definitely be jailbreaking the iPhone, I need my wifi-tether haha! Yea I'm excited for the applications, there are so much more on there. What's nice is that EA and Gameloft have a lot of sales, so all the games can be had for $0.99, if you wait for the right time (although still can't beat the market's $0.10 appsale).
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I'm just curious- I just sold my E4GT for an iPhone 4S- as to what your opinions are! This will be my first iPhone, I've only had android for smartphones (well Win6.1 for a few months). (although the E4GT is still my favorite phone ever).
I know this sounds like a "I'm leaving" thread, but it isn't meant to be. Just wondering what people may like about the iPhone vs. this phone, and what they hate! For me, I'm looking forward to the battery life, and the retina display, but will miss google nav, gtalk, gmail app, the notifications, etc.
If there's anyone who has both these phones, and could give some insight, please chime in.
There's a good chance I'll be back, since I change out phones every 6 months (and I got an iPhone because I've never used that OS before, so I'm curious), but I may try Win7 mobile before coming back to android as well.
On a side note, if everyone is really just hating on this thread, and I was an idiot for creating it and causing drama, I will just close it. Sorry all, was just really curious, not trying to create anything!!
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Their battery is about the same for me but the iPhone 4s has battery on sleep mode/ standby but the E4GT has better battery while in use but by the end of the day their battery drainage is about the same. Camera seems better on the E4GT maybe it's just the screen. Seriously though it's whatever floats your boat. You like massive apps, buying accessories and just want a simple phone then stick to the iPhone, for everything else E4GT is better in my opinion I hate the size of the iPhone screen and it gets boring after 2 days.
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I think whosdaman (Korey) just came back to the E4GT from an iPhone and he has also had the OG Epic I am sure you can get some feedback from him all around.
I havent had the chance to use one but I put it to most people like this. If you've bought into one system why switch? If you really haven't and you like the other then don't let any stop you from having it your way.
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Honestly, I love the learning process of new phones, which is why I switch so often. I still have not had a Motorola or Apple smartphone ever, so those were next on my list. I went from the Samsung Instinct to HTC Diamond to HTC Hero, to Epic 4G to E4GT, and now iPhone 4S.
I have put a lot of effort into android, but I can always come back. Plus I will admit, that I will probably spend less time on forums in general (still will be on XDA a bit) since you can't customize the iPhone as much. That was another key aspect of getting a phone like the iPhone....I will have more time to study for the GMATs instead of being drawn to all these amazing devs and their work!
I don't have an iPhone but I do have an ipad 3 and it was excruciatingly painful not having jb
And I did start slight theming for it (I just spent around 3 hours)
But **** is so complicated in theming and the file system is stupidly complicated
Who said that iPhones are simple
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I don't have an iPhone but I do have an ipad 3 and it was excruciatingly painful not having jb
And I did start slight theming for it (I just spent around 3 hours)
But **** is so complicated in theming and the file system is stupidly complicated
Who said that iPhones are simple
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I freaking hated jailbreaking the iPhone(on the 3gs days), everything stops working like Cydia when a new update/OS is available then you have to jailbreak all over again and spend so much time bringing everything back, it's one of the few updates I dont ever look forward to because of the hassle. My girl has my iPhone 4s now it had nothing to offer me that my E4GT couldn't do
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My wife and I both used to have original Evo's and about 6 months ago I went to the e4gt, and she went with the iPhone 4s. We frequently use each others phones and we both have likes and dislikes. Here are some of our big complaints:
Most of these are the obvious *****es that everyone has...
No 4G
Small screen
No back button
No external storage
Your clueless friends act like you finally decided to get a smartphone.
Positives are:
Camera is much better
High quality look and feel. (The brushed aluminum is a nice touch)
Siri is really cool. (I have tried the leaked S voice app, and I don't think we will see anything that comes close to Siri in the next couple of years)
The iOS is very polished. The cliche is true, "it just works"...
Manufacturers of other products (home or mobile audio mainly) gear everything towards iPhone.
I personally wouldn't go to an iPhone, but I like tinkering and customizing. My wife just wants stability, excellent camera, and good battery life. I definitely see the attraction of both devices. They both have their positives and negatives, it just comes down to preference. Have fun!
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I will definitely be jailbreaking the iPhone, I need my wifi-tether haha! Yea I'm excited for the applications, there are so much more on there. What's nice is that EA and Gameloft have a lot of sales, so all the games can be had for $0.99, if you wait for the right time (although still can't beat the market's $0.10 appsale).
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Yep when you try and jailbreak, that's when you realize it's not as straightforward as you'd like.
I am waiting for the new iPhone as well, as long as it has a larger screen, LTE, and maybe starting at 32gb (I wish!)
Yeah I have both and iPhone is for people who don't do a lot with their phone. Your paying sprint 10 dollars extra and you get slow 3g. And the screen is so small.
But it is a great phone. Maybe if it were bigger and had lte maybe but sprint 3g is horrible. If your on wifi its OK.
Pure ICS only
You will curse the screen for being so tiny on a daily basis.
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DevalB said:
Yep when you try and jailbreak, that's when you realize it's not as straightforward as you'd like.
I am waiting for the new iPhone as well, as long as it has a larger screen, LTE, and maybe starting at 32gb (I wish!)
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It was really straight forward with the ipad 3
It was actually just one click not a zillion clicks like the one click roots from here (no offense to anyone intended)
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My sister has an iPhone and I just jailbroke it for her yesterday. It's amazing how you can customize it with Jailbreaking... I made her phone look like the SII haha. But I still prefer Android because you can customize more even compared to jailbroken iPhones, and jailbreaking isn't completely stable. I'd say that custom ROMs on our phone are in general (not like nightly builds, but regular ROMs) are more stable than jailbroken features on iPhones. I personally don't like the shape of the iPhone or the small screen. Siri also isn't anything special IMO because no one ever ends up using it... just something to brag with. Like I seriously haven't met anyone who used Siri on a daily basis for functionality. To be honest, it's faster looking at a weather widget or opening a weather app than telling Siri to get the weather anyways.
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It was really straight forward with the ipad 3
It was actually just one click not a zillion clicks like the one click roots from here (no offense to anyone intended)
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How is it a zillion clicks lol. The only one click root for the E4GT I have seen once the app is running, its one click. The auto rooter was never advertised as a one click if thats what you mean. Maybe something else back in the EG30 days but i cam just before EK02 went ota.
I thought about getting an iphone but several things turned me off about it. First the hardware feels dated and screen seems small compared to this phone. Second in order to do anything with the files on the phone you have to use a software interface of some sort. For example you cant just plug into any pc, xfer files then unplug, you need itunes. Finally it just feels like a dumbed down content delivery device to me. Android feels and functions like a computer and I like that. I do understand how the simplicity of iphone would appeal to many but its just not for me. I also like being a bit different and popping down my S2 on the table with all my friends iphones at the restaurant or bar.
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My job provided me with an iPhone and I use the E4GT personally.
The iPhone "just works"...but thats it...Its a no thrills phone that just works.
I personally love my E4GT but it takes much tweaking to make it yours.
I will admit. SIRI is awesome but i feel like its just a gimmick for the "Lazy" person who doesn't want to take the few extra steps to do what SIRI does for you.
It is a learning curve but in the end, it really is up to the person and their preference.
I had both, sold the iPhone. I will never own another apple device. The best thing about android is that its open source. That is how things should be. The iPhone was too small, not customizable, and the majority of the apps are paid apps. Also, downloads took FOREVER! I also tried a Galaxy Nexus and sold it this morning. Im sticking with the E4GT until something freaking spectacular pops up. My main things about the E4GT that keep me here: Processor is fast, screen looks fantastic, camera is badass, and the roms are plentiful.
I owned iPhones for years, the biggest deal breaker by far is the tiny screen size. Buy even if it was a larger screen I would never ever be able to go back.
I do see how it is better for average users who just want something that is easy and works out of the box
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So,
6 months ago I decided to try out the iPhone. It was an experiment that ended up with me thinking apple is not that bad. But i love tinkering and the tinkering itch was back. So I did a straight trade with someone, my iPhone 5 16 for an S4. Mine you before the iPhone I rocked a rooted GNex running AOSP, before that a rooted Droid X AOSP, a rooted DInc running AOSP and my first phone a Moto Droid original NOT rooted.
So here I am with this S4 and before I bought it I checked to see if there were any ROM's see the activity and it was booming. So F it, got it only to find out it had the latest bootloader that was unlockable. Touchwiz sucks, I tried it for a few days until I said F It and sold it. Now I'm on the boat another iPhone 5 or try the HTC One.
I don't see much development activity but with the people that have been here a while. Can you give insight, it just got cracked and it I get it, it will be S-Off and Unlocked before you can sneeze.
A little thought and guidance would be helpful.
Thanks
I think u already know u want the Crapple.
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I think u already know u want the Crapple.
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Not Really Jorv... I love me a stock android experience and if I can eventually get that with the HTC. I would sign up for it in a heartbeat. I think Sense to have cut back. Rock the HTC One with say Nova and get rid of the bulk of the terrible things Sense offers.
One thing I could not stand with the S4, is that they cluttered the notification panel and status bar with crap. Way too much I did NOT or want.
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Not Really Jorv... I love me a stock android experience and if I can eventually get that with the HTC. I would sign up for it in a heartbeat. I think Sense to have cut back. Rock the HTC One with say Nova and get rid of the bulk of the terrible things Sense offers.
One thing I could not stand with the S4, is that they cluttered the notification panel and status bar with crap. Way too much I did NOT or want.
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There are several Google Play Edition and CM-based ROMs for the HTC One in the development section.
I was kind of in the same boat as you. I had an iPhone 5 but I missed the customization of Android, plus I REALLY wanted a bigger screen. Got a Galaxy S4 but really didn't like it - too locked down and TouchWiz sucks.
So, sold the S4 and got the HTC One. First thing I did was mail it off for S-OFF (before the software S-OFF was available). Unlocked bootloader and debloated this thing. Right now, I'm running completely stock ROM with bloat removed because I actually like Sense. It's FANTASTIC in all regards.
There's already several solid options for the stock android experience in the original development thread + slimrom which isn't listed. Have you read anything on this forum yet? + its already s-off and unlocked.
With a software exploit only made availble a couple of weeks ago, it will take time for a large amount of ROMS to be released. There are already 5-7 and more coming every day. If you like tinkering, not even sure why you would consider an iPhone. Even my 70 year old mother got bored of the iPhone and made the switch to Android.
If you want a solid phone that works and you don't mind drinking the Apple Kool Aid and remaining totally stock, get the iPhone 5. If you want anything more from your device, get an HTC One. Pretty simple really.
Came from the Gnex just like you and got antsy at upgrade time and pulled the trigger early and got the S4, too. While it was a decent phone, the bloat was unbelievable and I found that I'm no fan of touchwiz. And I agree that the notification area is bombed out pretty heavily.
I returned my S4 after a week because the One was available on Verizon and never looked back. Completely happy on stock with a couple mods from the themes and apps section and Xposed framework. I'm curious to try Viper when it's available for us but truly am content with stock until then.
I'm not going to dump on the iPhone. It's a solidly built, locked down device. My wife has one and is happy with it but I like to tinker and have all the options that Android brings to the table. There's quite a few solid AOSP and Sense based roms right now, like others have said before me, and it looks like more are coming.
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Not Really Jorv... I love me a stock android experience and if I can eventually get that with the HTC. I would sign up for it in a heartbeat. I think Sense to have cut back. Rock the HTC One with say Nova and get rid of the bulk of the terrible things Sense offers.
One thing I could not stand with the S4, is that they cluttered the notification panel and status bar with crap. Way too much I did NOT or want.
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I think you'll be surprised with Sense. It's actually pretty nice, especially for photos, etc. Like mentioned before, though, if you like tinkering you're just wasting your time getting an iPhone.
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With a software exploit only made availble a couple of weeks ago, it will take time for a large amount of ROMS to be released. There are already 5-7 and more coming every day. If you like tinkering, not even sure why you would consider an iPhone. Even my 70 year old mother got bored of the iPhone and made the switch to Android.
If you want a solid phone that works and you don't mind drinking the Apple Kool Aid and remaining totally stock, get the iPhone 5. If you want anything more from your device, get an HTC One. Pretty simple really.
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Yes. And you don't want to wait too long to get it either. The thing with software exploits is that they can be easily patched, which is guaranteed to happen to the current rumrunner s-off exploit with the 4.3 roll out. This is perhaps the only occasion where Verizon's slow upgrade actually works in the consumer's favor.
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So,
6 months ago I decided to try out the iPhone. It was an experiment that ended up with me thinking apple is not that bad. But i love tinkering and the tinkering itch was back. So I did a straight trade with someone, my iPhone 5 16 for an S4. Mine you before the iPhone I rocked a rooted GNex running AOSP, before that a rooted Droid X AOSP, a rooted DInc running AOSP and my first phone a Moto Droid original NOT rooted.
So here I am with this S4 and before I bought it I checked to see if there were any ROM's see the activity and it was booming. So F it, got it only to find out it had the latest bootloader that was unlockable. Touchwiz sucks, I tried it for a few days until I said F It and sold it. Now I'm on the boat another iPhone 5 or try the HTC One.
I don't see much development activity but with the people that have been here a while. Can you give insight, it just got cracked and it I get it, it will be S-Off and Unlocked before you can sneeze.
A little thought and guidance would be helpful.
Thanks
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Like you, I tried the iPhone for a little while and while its a great device, I can see why a lot of people like it, I just got bored with the UI and frustrated by the lack of capabilities after about 6 months and bought the S3. The S3 was a fantastic phone, TW wasn't so heavy that it effected phone performance severely and overall I was very happy. We switched from Sprint to Verizon and when we did, I bought the S4. I figured I liked the S3 so much that the S4 could only be better. Boy was I wrong, TW has grown to be far too large, device performance was disappointing and the UI is starting to look dated. There were ROMs available to alleviate some of my concerns but overall I was never satisfied with it.
So, I decided to try out the One after I saw S-OFF was achieved. To be honest, I've rooted, jailbroke, unlocked, etc all of my phones since the HTC mogul in 2007. This is the first time I've stayed on a basically stock ROM when other options were available. Sense 5 is so nice, it's very smooth, light weight, and unlike TW doesn't seem like its trying to cover up Android. The HTC One and the S4 use the same processor but the fluidity and general performance on the One is noticeably better, even with the CPU underclocked. The hardware is my favorite of any phone available, its beautiful, sleek and feels really nice in my hand. I'd say at least go play with one before deciding. After I spent 10 minutes with one at Best Buy I was sure I'd be happy with the device.
ROM activity is increasing but honestly, with xposed framework and the available modules, a stock debloated ROM really goes a long way.
I own The HTC One, SG3, and SG4.
SG3 kicked ASS!
HTC One blow them all out the water.
Sg4 is blah and I may sell for moto x.
Thanks for all the responses it has been extremely helpful. I just checked it out from a co-worker who has it. It really is a clean device. The bloat is definitely not there like it is from the SG4. Does anyone here take a lot of pictures with the phone. How's that 4MP camera that lets in more light...
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Thanks for all the responses it has been extremely helpful. I just checked it out from a co-worker who has it. It really is a clean device. The bloat is definitely not there like it is from the SG4. Does anyone here take a lot of pictures with the phone. How's that 4MP camera that lets in more light...
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I take a lot of pictures of my kids, and with it getting cooler outside many of those pics will be indoors with less than ideal lighting. In these situations I've been very pleased with the pictures I get. Even blowing up those pictures for use as by desktop background the pics still look very good.
I bought the One before selling the S4. My two concerns about the One compared to the S4 were the camera and battery. I've been satisfied with both.
andybones said:
I own The HTC One, SG3, and SG4.
SG3 kicked ASS!
HTC One blow them all out the water.
Sg4 is blah and I may sell for moto x.
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Of the competing phones I have tested extensively the LG G2 and the Droid Maxx. The G2 was a braindead phone. Whenever I pick it up I had an urge to throw it away, so that was out of the equation.
The Droid Maxx really had me torn. It had close to vanilla Android, superb build quality (this is subjective, but to me the Maxx felt much better in the hand than the One), and, most important of all, the amazing battery life. I just loved that phone, it had everything I wanted in a phone. I was pretty sure the Maxx was going to be my main phone for at least the next year.
Then the HTC One killed it in one arena: signal reception. Now we live in a fringe area of Verizon 4G coverage. Our old phone, the Gnex, absolutely struggles to hold on to the 4G signal. It would drop in and out of 4G many times in an hour, in the best reception areas we can find in the house. The 4G->3G handoff is hard, meaning all data connections gets dropped, so in reality we have to turn off LTE while at home. Both the G2 and the Droid Maxx have about the same signal quality, which is significantly better than the Gnex, but they would still drop 4G from time to time. The One however, simply blows all its competition out of the water in this aspect. It would display 4 bars(!) of LTE in most areas of the house, while the G2 and Maxx would have 2 bars. At first I thought it must be a cheap trick by HTC. The signal strength in the phone status show identical numbers across the phones, and the One just show more bars for the same signal strength. But after more than a week of extensive use on my wife's One, this phone has _never_ dropped the 4G signal in our house in that entire time! Even in the bathroom where we barely get our own wifi signal, the One would somehow miraculously hang on to one bar of LTE, and still maintain a reasonable download speed!
What magic HTC did on this phone I have no idea, but I'm sold, exchanged my Maxx for the One, and now I'm a happy camper
Yeah., over the years I have ditch my point and shoot and have been using my phones for pics and the DSLR for shots. The GNex took terrible the pics, the iPhone was a descent point and shooter. That is what I need a descent point and shoot camera.
I have an iPhone 5 for work and the One. My god, I can never look at the iPhone after using my phone for a few minutes. I know it was this huge marketing this against Apple but the screen size of the iPhone really is a HUGE negative for me.
rmd0311 said:
Yeah., over the years I have ditch my point and shoot and have been using my phones for pics and the DSLR for shots. The GNex took terrible the pics, the iPhone was a descent point and shooter. That is what I need a descent point and shoot camera.
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Yeah, I used to be an SLR guy until I got my Sony RX-100 last year. I used to use it all the time, but the One is good enough that I don't use the RX-100 except for special occasions when I know I'll be taking dozens of pictures.
Coming from a camera on a phone, I'd say the One has one of the best to date. Might not be as epic as the unit on the Lumia 1020, but it definitely holds its own. I snap tons of photos, the the camera in this phone in my opinion trashes the camera in my sister in laws iPhone 5. Either way, the One is an excellent device and coming from my kickin SGS2, in more than happy. The s4 just doesn't compete in the features even though the cpu in the One is running at a slightly lower frequency. I won't even look at the s4 now. This phone stole my damn heart and VanirAOSP put the icing on my cake.
Sent from the One in Blue on xparent red tapatalk!
rmd0311 said:
So,
6 months ago I decided to try out the iPhone. It was an experiment that ended up with me thinking apple is not that bad. But i love tinkering and the tinkering itch was back. So I did a straight trade with someone, my iPhone 5 16 for an S4. Mine you before the iPhone I rocked a rooted GNex running AOSP, before that a rooted Droid X AOSP, a rooted DInc running AOSP and my first phone a Moto Droid original NOT rooted.
So here I am with this S4 and before I bought it I checked to see if there were any ROM's see the activity and it was booming. So F it, got it only to find out it had the latest bootloader that was unlockable. Touchwiz sucks, I tried it for a few days until I said F It and sold it. Now I'm on the boat another iPhone 5 or try the HTC One.
I don't see much development activity but with the people that have been here a while. Can you give insight, it just got cracked and it I get it, it will be S-Off and Unlocked before you can sneeze.
A little thought and guidance would be helpful.
Thanks
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Once again with these "not much developement" comments.. You do realize having 99 copies of one rom isn't development... We have a wonderful variety of roms. Posting threads like this are likely to irritate people. If you want 50 copies of a rom get a nexus device. Follow the golden rule.. If you aren't happy running stock and never expecting it to be updated NEVER buy it. You don't buy bread for the poop you'll turn it into... Be realistic. /rant
I recently went from S3 to 5s and now to the One. I gave the 5s 2-3 solid weeks of trial before I started looking for something else. The only way possible I can explain how anyone would want an iPhone is that out of the box they want a finished product that you install music and apps on. It just seemed so limited on what you could do with it. Something as simple as copying ringtones over was a huge fiasco. Picking the keyboard you want. Etc etc.
My only complaints are the fixed buttons. Maybe I'm just so use to the s3, but the back arrow is opposite on this phone and doesn't seem as convenient with the thumb. I wish the htc logo acted as the home button as well and the home button was swapped on the other side as a menu button. In a few months, hopefully I feel differently. But, I do appreciate the galaxy nexus navigation buttons being able to be changed however you want. wish they would've done the same here.