This may be a generic Android question and not so much a Nitro issue, but I'm new to android so I apologize if it's out of line.
I see that there are ways to tether built right into my stock software, but I'm afraid if I use them AT&T will pick it up and switch me from my Unlimited Data plan to a tethering plan. I've been told about PdaNet 3.0, but haven't yet downloaded that. Any thoughts?
They probably will. I would wait until there is a version of CWM or some other close to vanilla Android build for the phone personally.
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They probably will. I would wait until there is a version of CWM or some other close to vanilla Android build for the phone personally.
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Thanks for the reply, but it's a little over my head. From my minimal Android knowledge I think CWM means ClockWorkMod, but I don't really know what that is. I've got some learning to do.
I do get your point though.
AllstarE4 said:
This may be a generic Android question and not so much a Nitro issue, but I'm new to android so I apologize if it's out of line.
I see that there are ways to tether built right into my stock software, but I'm afraid if I use them AT&T will pick it up and switch me from my Unlimited Data plan to a tethering plan. I've been told about PdaNet 3.0, but haven't yet downloaded that. Any thoughts?
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been tethering with the native app for a while (edited the entitlement check line to activate it). No problems here. I don't abuse it though, just basic web browsing when i tether.
Yeah, CWM is ClockWorkMod. Basically, it's something dev's can use as a platform to create files to flash to your phone (including software that will take everthing back to stock if you mess up). It also provides a relatively simple, if initially intimidating, way for a user to install roms and other mods that devs provide.
Once CWM is on a phone, developers are able to make much cooler things to play with, from streamlined and customized stock roms, to completely different roms such as AOSP (Android Open Source Project) roms. These are stock android roms. You also can get CyanogenMod roms (Such as CM9 which is Icce Cream Sandwich) ported to your phone at that point. The AOSP and CM roms can take a while to get here, but devs can sometimes slip goodies like tethering into a customized version of the stock rom (the one from LG). They did on my phone anyway.
On any relatively new phone, there's always the wait till CWM is ported to the phone. After that, things pick up rapidly.
Hope this helps. I remember asking the same question (and many more like it). You get the hang of it real fast.
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been tethering with the native app for a while (edited the entitlement check line to activate it). No problems here. I don't abuse it though, just basic web browsing when i tether.
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How did you edit the entitlement check? I probably still won't do it, but I am very curious. I don't trust carrier and manufacturer customized roms.
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How did you edit the entitlement check? I probably still won't do it, but I am very curious. I don't trust carrier and manufacturer customized roms.
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Check out page 6/7 in the LG Nitro Root thread in the dev section. You have to trigger the hotspot on once, to get AT&T to tell u that u don't have the proper plan, and the line will appear in line 66.
setting storange/settings.db/secure
Get there using SQLite editor.
E_Man,
When I get back to my computer I'll hit the thanks button. I have a lot to learn, but here's how I equate some of it.
Is CWM kinda like Cydia on the iPhone? I jailbroke my 3GS a few different times, but this android stuff is all Greek to me. There was always a tutorial to be found with every new jailbreak, but I've only seen one for rooting the Nitro and it's still over my head.
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Actually, using iphone terminology, cwm would be more like open iboot or something. It's a recovery mode that allows you to back up, restore, or install roms. There is no cydia equivalent in android afaik. Almost all the cool tools, tweaks, and apps are available in the market. Rooting is pretty much the same thing as jailbreaking.
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Malnilion said:
Actually, using iphone terminology, cwm would be more like open iboot or something. It's a recovery mode that allows you to back up, restore, or install roms. There is no cydia equivalent in android afaik. Almost all the cool tools, tweaks, and apps are available in the market. Rooting is pretty much the same thing as jailbreaking.
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Ah I see. I have noticed that most of the things I had to jailbreak for are already in the android marketplace. The availability of all of that and the freedoms that android offers are what made me ditch iOS. The main reason, though, is because I kept hearing how supportive the android community is. So far you guys seem pretty helpful. It's on me to learn as much as I can. I just have to find the right spot to start gaining info. Much of what I've come across is over my head.
You picked a good phone to convert to. The display on this phone is AMAZING!!! My HTC Inspire looks like a VGA monitor to me now.
Is anyone else using the built in tether option? Any foul play from AT&T?
I'm using it. Don't abuse much (other then listening pandora radio on laptop 8 hours a day), but other then that basic web browsing. So far so good, nothing from ATT (yet I already received sms when had Atrix, but then I was streaming movies from my computer at home, was going 20gb a month. Now I'm about 10gb a month (which I know is high), but it's all because of pandora, it would be the same if I was using phone's app for that anyway.
Although I'm not on contract and won't loose sleep if I have to switch company, for what I pay now I sure can find a better deal elsewhere.
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I'm using it. Don't abuse much (other then listening pandora radio on laptop 8 hours a day), but other then that basic web browsing. So far so good, nothing from ATT (yet I already received sms when had Atrix, but then I was streaming movies from my computer at home, was going 20gb a month. Now I'm about 10gb a month (which I know is high), but it's all because of pandora, it would be the same if I was using phone's app for that anyway.
Although I'm not on contract and won't loose sleep if I have to switch company, for what I pay now I sure can find a better deal elsewhere.
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Wow, nice. I am usually under 3 GB, but tethering on my HSPA+ Inspire was hardly a good experience. I'm sure I'll get above that if I tether on my Nitro. Glad to know you can get around 10 GB without them flipping out on you. I was under the impression you'll receive the SMS right over 5 GB.
Are you guys also on the unlimited data plan without the tethering feature?
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I was under the impression you'll receive the SMS right over 5 GB.
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I forgot to mention I'm in non-LTE area. Also as far as I can remember for at least 2 years, after 15th of each month they slow down the network from about 10am to 7pm from 800kb/sec to 80, regardless of my usage. Still its fast enough for pandora and little web browsing.
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I'm using it. Don't abuse much (other then listening pandora radio on laptop 8 hours a day), but other then that basic web browsing. So far so good, nothing from ATT (yet I already received sms when had Atrix, but then I was streaming movies from my computer at home, was going 20gb a month. Now I'm about 10gb a month (which I know is high), but it's all because of pandora, it would be the same if I was using phone's app for that anyway.
Although I'm not on contract and won't loose sleep if I have to switch company, for what I pay now I sure can find a better deal elsewhere.
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Wait a minute... You use 10GB a month tethering and don't get hassled by AT&T? I was told that with Android devices they can't detect whether or not you're tethering or just using alot with certain apps. It must be true.
I'm gonna try it out.
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Well perhaps they know that I have noting to lose and will cancel my account if they try something.
Already paying way too much for what I get compare to other carriers.
Haha if that were their thinking I would never sign a contract again.
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Bought a Evo 4g in 2010, rooted it, loved it, got run over by a truck, received a replacement from asurion today (still have the busted old one...but need to send it back). Admittedly haven't been to these forums in awhile, so just figuring out now that rooting doesn't work on 2.3.3. Bummer.
To be honest, the only thing I ever used root for was wifi-tether (sad, but true). But I used it a lot, pretty much every day for work.
So in a nutshell, what are my options?
1. If i'm reading the various threads here correctly, I cannot root my device. True?
2. Are there any other free wifi tethering options that don't require root, and support 4g?
3. Am I crazy to consider taking my phone apart and replacing just the components of my other phone that are broken, so I can stay on whatever version I was on previously to keep root? This new android seems a lot snappier than whatever version I was on previously (I didn't do any OTA's since oct '10 on the phone that got run over).
Thanks for the tips.
You searched! congrats on being one of the few!
There are no wifi tethering options for unrooted devices...only usb tethering.
From what I've seen, its not worth the hassle to remove the components from one phone to another.
You will either have to wait for root or pay sprint $30.00 a month for the feature.
Use easy tether its usb tethering and its really fast on 4g I use it everyday
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Get comcast its a lot faster brotha...
thlinx said:
Get comcast its a lot faster brotha...
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Not necessarily. Comcast sells very slow internet as well as their more modern options. More likely is that he uses it outside.
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Whose going go root their device? Im thinking about it just for google wallet but im hearing its unsecure. Any inputs
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Whose going go root their device? Im thinking about it just for google wallet but im hearing its unsecure. Any inputs
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if the root process is available for the vzw galaxy nexus by the time i get home, i will root it instantly. like you said, google wallet is the biggest reason followed by the fact i need to tether. google wallet isn't unsecure, i use it on my nexus s daily and wouldn't give it up for the world.
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if the root process is available for the vzw galaxy nexus by the time i get home, i will root it instantly. like you said, google wallet is the biggest reason followed by the fact i need to tether. google wallet isn't unsecure, i use it on my nexus s daily and wouldn't give it up for the world.
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all you phone junkies should play with your phone at least a week or so stock. just in case there are any hardware problems. methinks with all the people "renting" phones and the nexus having a high profile for modding i wouldn't chance voiding the warranty straight out of the box.
i dont need to use google wallet,i think root is better.
Ya google wallet is a musy have in my opinion, and i heard the.rooting process was easy
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You guys go ahead.... Google Wallet has a security flaw, so good luck with that!
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You guys go ahead.... Google Wallet has a security flaw, so good luck with that!
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You mean the same Google wallet that sprint and Google say is fine? Or the same Google wallet I use every single day? Please tell me about this flaw?
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You guys go ahead.... Google Wallet has a security flaw, so good luck with that!
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the flaw that verizon, atnt and tmobile made up about google using a hardware chip? that flaw? the one that won't go through their servers so they can keep an even closer eye on the things you do with your phone? that one?
pukemon said:
the flaw that verizon, atnt and tmobile made up about google using a hardware chip? that flaw? the one that won't go through their servers so they can keep an even closer eye on the things you do with your phone? that one?
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lol ok gotcha
I rooted mine and had a custom rom on it within 20 minutes of unboxing it.
Glad I did!
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pukemon said:
all you phone junkies should play with your phone at least a week or so stock. just in case there are any hardware problems. methinks with all the people "renting" phones and the nexus having a high profile for modding i wouldn't chance voiding the warranty straight out of the box.
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That is an extrmely good point. I left part of me behind when I left my 3vo, and this is the first thing that came to mind when I get home with it from work tomorrow. Not now. Def gonna leave it the way it is for a week or so.....but we'll have to see how that goes haha
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The big security flaw is using your phone on ANY cell phone service. They track who you call, how long your calls are, who you txt, what the txt is, what cell towers you're connected to, when you pay your bill, with what credit card or check, also your name, address, oh and they know your phone number!
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I plan to use a lot of time exploring the phone on stock for about 10 days and then root.
Won't be rooting, see no need for it.
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i rooted mine on the first day, mostly becouse i want a recovery backup on the stock rom from day 1 with clockwork recovery.
I guess there is some consumer appeal, but really, why buy a Nexus if you have no interest in an unlocked phone? My decision to buy a Nexus was far less about firmware updates than it was about my right to own the hardware that I paid for.
To be honest, I didn't read the thread (shame on me), but these topics puzzle me. To each his own.
Google Wallet has some security risks in general for any device. Recently read the following from droidforums..... http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dr...s-news+(DroidForums.net+News+::+Android+News)
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I'll root when CM9 hits beta or if a good stable nightly.
Yes, but so far only to be able to restore app data (ie Angry Birds) from my old phone. I'm totally cool with the built-in ICS disable/freeze feature for the apps I don't want, I think that's an extremely fair compromise over rooting and deleting the apk/so files.
Not too concerned about Wallet yet, we'll see how that pans out if it's something we'll need to root for or just something we can head to the Market and install without any issue. I would like to try it out and have zero confidence that the competing ISIS thing won't completely suck in comparison, so if root is needed, root it is!
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The big security flaw is using your phone on ANY cell phone service. They track who you call, how long your calls are, who you txt, what the txt is, what cell towers you're connected to, when you pay your bill, with what credit card or check, also your name, address, oh and they know your phone number!
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If you want a private conversation phones are not the way to go. Back in the day we had to hard tap your line for LE with warrant. Now with CALEA and digital switches they can monitor traffic anywhere anytime w/o warrant.
Sometimes we put lines on speaker all day to monitor for noise. If your neighbor had wet line issue or cross talk we might monitor your line for noise. I worked in a 900 number telephone switch in California we have to check lines for "traffic" or people talking before working on them. It was awkward. Now I can monitor phone calls from my computer. Of coarse I don't unless it is for work I don't want to end up in Guantanamo.
Wow how off topic WTF happened?
I am currently on my 14 day trial for my Galaxy Nexus from Bell (Canada). I did a lot of research before I bought the phone and these last few days I've been testing things and trying to find stuff to make me say "this is my phone". I've been an iPhone user for 2.5 years but my crappy old 3g couldn't handle things anymore. I needed a business phone for browsing , email, etc. I'm sure there'll be an iPhone 5 so I'm not sure if its worth getting into a contract extension on this phone.
Furthermore it seems like a lot of people keep saying gs2 > gn. I've noticed a few disappointing things (camera and speaker) on the gn so far but nothing that screams get the older phone. As of now though I also haven't found any "I need an android/nexus for this" reasons to keep this phone. Mostly I've been finding workarounds for stuff like text notifications. What are some real user things to make me love this phone (I already like it just not sure its worth the contract).
Tl;dr : what's some cool apps/things you can do with a Droid/nexus that makes you say "I need it".
Also side question: I currently have a seven dollar a month warranty for smashing it, can I root then unroot and still cash in on that warranty? Might not be easy if I destroy it lol.
Manually flash 4.0.4 and experience the power.
bow chicka wow wow.
^^^^^^ +1
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chrstphrbrnnn said:
I am currently on my 14 day trial for my Galaxy Nexus from Bell (Canada). I did a lot of research before I bought the phone and these last few days I've been testing things and trying to find stuff to make me say "this is my phone". I've been an iPhone user for 2.5 years but my crappy old 3g couldn't handle things anymore. I needed a business phone for browsing , email, etc. I'm sure there'll be an iPhone 5 so I'm not sure if its worth getting into a contract extension on this phone.
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Its all about your personal preference, really. If you don't like using the phone or you don't see yourself using it for 1, 2, 3 years... then don't get it. Obviously people here in the GNex forum will be biased towards telling you that the GNex is best and wouldn't dare recommend an iPhone or even another Android phone.
Also side question: I currently have a seven dollar a month warranty for smashing it, can I root then unroot and still cash in on that warranty? Might not be easy if I destroy it lol.
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Accidental damage warranties don't care if you've rooted. You're paying monthly and a deductible. Considering you just hit it with a hammer, they won't care if you rooted it.
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Manually flash 4.0.4 and experience the power.
bow chicka wow wow.
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So this isn't like PSP modification where older is better haha? Still on 4.0.1 because I noticed people saying they reverted from 4.0.4. I should mention that a few of the cool features I was looking forward to (Google wallet and Google voice) aren't officially available in canada, which I'm sure you guys know. This spurred my deeper research because they were cool points for me.
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So this isn't like PSP modification where older is better haha? Still on 4.0.1 because I noticed people saying they reverted from 4.0.4. I should mention that a few of the cool features I was looking forward to (Google wallet and Google voice) aren't officially available in canada, which I'm sure you guys know. This spurred my deeper research because they were cool points for me.
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there are ways around it. just gotta search. but seriously, flash .4 before you make your decision. there is a radio issue on .4 but not everybody is affected and there are easy workarounds.
Hello there,
the best way to answer your own question " What are some thing that will sell me on keeping my Nexus (Bell) " is :
to write down a list of your daily tasks and why you will need this phone for.. and go from there > see how the Galaxy Nexus is handling your needs !
You may not even need to root or anything ...
Good Luck !
So if I flash it (is that rooms?) I can unflash it and take it back no problem with my trial period?
@martonikaj:
I read the link for your go prepaid thing in your sig. It has me intrigued. Do you know if that's possible in Canada? I know the compete rate is a lot lower in Canada than the US between different providers. If possible Id just pick up a nexus from somewhere and do the same stuff?
@wolf glance:
I'm not sure if you meant here lol but:
texting
Phone calls
Email
Gaming
Lots of browsing
Scheduling
Skype
Banking
YouTube/videos
Audio books
Largely I like a good portion of simplicity (why I liked iOS) though I enjoy customization. I am a computer science student so the prospects of modding and development are cool to me but I'm not too far into my program. After my last two PC's had hardware failures I bought a mac for reliability while I build a new one this summer so it feels weird to ditch the apple connectivity.
you flash roms and yes you can revert it back to stock if you wish.
I don't think we should have to sell the phone to you, if you're not impressed with it take it back. I'm happy to find and implement hacks and mods to tailor my phone to the way I want it, I must have ten unique kernel mods alone.
I've been flashing ROMs for years now, I don't know what I'd do if I ever got a phone out of the box that didn't need modding. The world would be a more boring place to me, that's for sure.
chrstphrbrnnn said:
So if I flash it (is that rooms?) I can unflash it and take it back no problem with my trial period?
@martonikaj:
I read the link for your go prepaid thing in your sig. It has me intrigued. Do you know if that's possible in Canada? I know the compete rate is a lot lower in Canada than the US between different providers. If possible Id just pick up a nexus from somewhere and do the same stuff?
@wolf glance:
I'm not sure if you meant here lol but:
texting
Phone calls
Email
Gaming
Lots of browsing
Scheduling
Skype
Banking
YouTube/videos
Audio books
Largely I like a good portion of simplicity (why I liked iOS) though I enjoy customization. I am a computer science student so the prospects of modding and development are cool to me but I'm not too far into my program. After my last two PC's had hardware failures I bought a mac for reliability while I build a new one this summer so it feels weird to ditch the apple connectivity.
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here you go ... have you tried all what you mentioned above ?
you can do all your list with the stock rom without any problem !!!
how do you like ICS and the Android so far ? lol
If you are ready and decide to keep the phone then and only then you can start searching and reading about how to update to 4.0.4 and how to flash roms, radio , etc...(but even with the stock rom and the 4.0.1 you're good to go)
You can start reading in this thread if you decided that you want to keep the phone ...have fun : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1391881
Also read the how to's in efrant's signature : http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=1566190
Preordered iPhone5. Received it Friday Sept 21. Returned Sunday 2-3 days later. Picked up t-mobile Galaxy S3 right after returning the iPhone5.
So glad I am back on Android. From the 2-3 days of ownership of the iPhone5/iOS (as this was my 1st iPhone and I just wanted to experiment to see how I'd like it), I was not able to do very basic things I wanted, or any reasonable person would expect to be able to do to a phone.
1st off, Ringtones. Anyone owning a phone would have a reasonable expectation to be able to change / add custom ringtones. Should I have to pay for it? Maybe, that is if I don't want to cut the songs myself. I already have ringtones from my last phone which was basic mp3s I could have drag/dropped over. But with iPhone, I had to go through tedious process of utilizing iTunes as a medium, converting to AAC format, moving onto desktop, deleting the ones in iTunes, then renaming the .m4a format to .m4r, then dragging it back into iTunes, then syncing. I could have done all this on Android by just plugging it to my comp, locate Ringtones folder, dropped it in, and done.
Sync was an issue too. I'm pretty sure most people use gmail in some way, and all my contacts are in gmail. Tried to get contacts to sync over to iCloud was a hassle. It would only sync the root folder group of contacts and not the other groups. I had to manually export each contact group to my comp, then import into iCloud. Now if I added/made changes to a contact on my iPhone, I'd have to go back home, and re-enter a new contact in google. It's just not a seamless process.
Also the AppStore. Every 15 minutes I want to get an app, I am asked to enter a password. And Apple requires a complicated pw with uppercase/lowercase, numbers, special characters. It's not by any means easy to type on the phone every time I want to install something.
No widgets either on iOs. No notification widgets to easy turn on/off options like WiFi, screen rotation, GPS, Bluetooth. I have to go into settings and navigate through menus to turn them on/off.
I didn't like how all the apps just show up on the home screen as iOS doesn't have a drawer like Android, and I'd have to dump everything into folders if I didn't want to see it. Also all the icons just align from right to left, top to bottom. I can't change where they are on the page except for the order it flows. I read maybe JailBreaking can help with this customization, but I don't think I want to wait that long for an untethered JB to be available for the iPhone5 to be released.
Forgot to add, I have a TF700 and I utilize TabletTalk to sync SMS to my Tablet and send SMS via the Tablet. This wouldn't have worked out for an Android Tablet with an iPhone.
Side issue that affected me, but unrelated to Apple, was the fact Sprint had deceptive advertising regarding their LTE coverage. As you guys know, iPhone is either 3G or LTE; no WiMax. In DFW, even though coverage map shows I am clearly in 4G LTE coverage, Sprint indeed only had 1 LTE tower up and running in the other side of Dallas of where I am at. And Dallas is a pretty damn big city, so all I ever saw was 3G. Sprint's 3G was < 1mbps down/upload, which is unacceptable as I am paying for "unlimited 3g/4g data" cost of an additional $10/month. It is hardly enough bandwidth to stream music / video or let alone download apps unless I am connected to WiFi; which then goes back to the point of why am I even paying for data. Unlimited data is pointless at that speed and I'm not going to wait 1-2 yrs for Sprint to finish rolling out LTE in Dallas; since by then my contract would have expired anyways and I could just switch to Sprint then.
But overall, I didn't try to / demand anything complicated out of the phone. The simple things I wanted it to do, didn't go as I had expected, even though I kept hearing how easy iPhones are to use, and how stable it is. Stable OS, smooth processing, and pretty, yes. But basic simple customization / syncing, no. And now I totally understand when Android users are trolling iPhone users.
That's why the iPhone has those mesmerizing screen transition animations. Supposed to help relieve the headache after all the frustration. J/K.
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If you have a mac is easier to import your Google contacts to iCloud, or you can set up Gmail as a exchanged account and will import and update all your contacts automatically (kind of like android) anyways, I'm about to return my iPhone 5 is amazing looking device but not for my needs like I said before, the only thing I miss the most(besides a few apps) is battery life in stand by, really good phone not my cup of tea tho
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Nice to see your in the Galaxy... the cryphones will never be better then android. They have no comparison.. you take a phone that does things and can't be changed and "compare" it to a phone that let's u do whatever you want on it.. I just never see it as a fair comparison.. that's like saying the cryphones are a Datsun and the androids are lambos... and then people say the cryphones are better.. there are in different leagues altogether. Cryphones = lockdown no customization like android... but glad to see u here. Many people waste so much time n money on apple.. and now its biting them in the wallet and a$$... he he he I love it. BTW if u have a DSLR cannon camera check out chainfire's DSLR controller app.. I just found it yesterday and I can control my camera with my phone... its so dope!!! Sgs3 BEST PHONE I'VE HAD YET. PERIOD.
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Lots of valid points, but overall it's just an issue with competing ecosystems. You had already had some Androids, so most of your ecosystem was setup through gmail and google.
For a Mac user coming over to an Android phone, much of the same problems pop up (no easy itunes music/podcasts integration, etc)
But overall just by its open source nature, Android is much easier to work with and setup. And conversely since Apple likes to control all aspects of user experience, you don't get all the features and selling points (i.e. the iPhone is so "easy" to use!) unless you are subscribed to the entire Apple ecosystem.
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Lots of valid points, but overall it's just an issue with competing ecosystems. You had already had some Androids, so most of your ecosystem was setup through gmail and google.
For a Mac user coming over to an Android phone, much of the same problems pop up (no easy itunes music/podcasts integration, etc)
But overall just by its open source nature, Android is much easier to work with and setup. And conversely since Apple likes to control all aspects of user experience, you don't get all the features and selling points (i.e. the iPhone is so "easy" to use!) unless you are subscribed to the entire Apple ecosystem.
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Only way I'd go apple products is if I edited lots n lots of videos... Apple wins that battle all day. But that's there PC and not mobile...
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Tmo has really fast data at DFW, wasn't able to leave the airport hah but in it the 4g was great. For ringtones you can just longpress a song in the media player. No need to even move it.
My gmail calendar syncs between my iPad/net/phone perfectly. Haven't tried contacts but I'm sure there is a way. iOS is definitely a different experience though. I really like the app tray on android too. But iOS has the advantage of searching when you hit home twice.
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Tmo has really fast data at DFW, wasn't able to leave the airport hah but in it the 4g was great. For ringtones you can just longpress a song in the media player. No need to even move it.
My gmail calendar syncs between my iPad/net/phone perfectly. Haven't tried contacts but I'm sure there is a way. iOS is definitely a different experience though. I really like the app tray on android too. But iOS has the advantage of searching when you hit home twice.
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Only way I'd go apple products is if I edited lots n lots of videos... Apple wins that battle all day. But that's there PC and not mobile...
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Video and/or Photos (i work with both) so I do run Macs at home. For mobile I'm with you though, loving my GSIII
Since I do not do any media creation I have no reason to keep an apple product. I use my S3 and my Nexus 7 for almost all of my day to day use.
Otherwise I use my little netbook but those times are getting further and further in between.
I was interested in the iPhone 5, but now that you reviewed here and I'd an android user before, I will just wait for the note 2. I do like Apple products, just hate the Apple company...
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yaddamean said:
Iphones are for girls. And queers.
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What's wrong with being a girl, or queer?
I bought a Samsung Vibrant on the recommendation of a queer woman.
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Isn't that the universal search feature that got disabled?
I just though I share my story here:
My HTC desire died because of to much freedom after 1.5 year of custom ROM flashing and partition profile switching(hboot).(I think I have switched between all available ROMs for the HTC Desire before it died one months ago)
I always flashed a new ROM because non of them was what I wanted.
Sure Oxygen was awesome but it sopped to receive updates.
MIUI was awesome but it stopped to to receive updates. (For Desire)
I spent most my time on Gingerbread and ICC custom ROMS and always had stability issues.
I know that if I get an iPhone I will still get updates for it 2 years from now.
If I get a galaxy S3 I will get jellybean but after that there is nothing promising that I will get Key lime pie.
When I get an iPhone all apps in the app store will work on it without problem.
That is maybe the case for galaxy S3. But it's not guaranteed.
I'm also tired of all the customization options. It's great to be able to customize so much but I never was able to get it exactly how I wanted it to be anyway.
The iPhone isn't nearly have as much customize options. But still, it's enough for me and I used MIUI ROM so it reminds a lot of the iOS.
I never even used widgets after a while because widget made my already crappy battery run out of ´cream´ even faster.
I'm still thinking of maybe take a S3 though because of the iPhone seems to have a bit of problems(easy scratches and some other minor stuff)
Though the S3 in my eyes is REALLY big. I can still cancel my order on the iPhone so if anyone after reading this can convince me to get the S3. Please go ahead.
I really loved my time with android. But I kind of got sick on it. Maybe if I try both the iPhone 5 and GSIII I can finally make a 100% accurate choice.
CrimzonEyed said:
I just though I share my story here:
My HTC desire died because of to much freedom after 1.5 year of custom ROM flashing and partition profile switching(hboot).(I think I have switched between all available ROMs for the HTC Desire before it died one months ago)
I always flashed a new ROM because non of them was what I wanted.
Sure Oxygen was awesome but it sopped to receive updates.
MIUI was awesome but it stopped to to receive updates. (For Desire)
I spent most my time on Gingerbread and ICC custom ROMS and always had stability issues.
I know that if I get an iPhone I will still get updates for it 2 years from now.
If I get a galaxy S3 I will get jellybean but after that there is nothing promising that I will get Key lime pie.
When I get an iPhone all apps in the app store will work on it without problem.
That is maybe the case for galaxy S3. But it's not guaranteed.
I'm also tired of all the customization options. It's great to be able to customize so much but I never was able to get it exactly how I wanted it to be anyway.
The iPhone isn't nearly have as much customize options. But still, it's enough for me and I used MIUI ROM so it reminds a lot of the iOS.
I never even used widgets after a while because widget made my already crappy battery run out of ´cream´ even faster.
I'm still thinking of maybe take a S3 though because of the iPhone seems to have a bit of problems(easy scratches and some other minor stuff)
Though the S3 in my eyes is REALLY big. I can still cancel my order on the iPhone so if anyone after reading this can convince me to get the S3. Please go ahead.
I really loved my time with android. But I kind of got sick on it. Maybe if I try both the iPhone 5 and GSIII I can finally make a 100% accurate choice.
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I won't try to dissuade you. If T-Mobile hadn't given me a good deal to stay, or I weren't on T-Mobile to start with, I might have decided to give the iPhone 5 a try. That said, my understanding from a relative who happily uses Apple products is that, if as I do you use Google calendar and Gmail, then there's no significant advantage to the iPhone over the Galaxy S III. What you're left with is a choice between two very good products, each of which has advantages and disadvantages.
So you preordered a phone? What provider? Then used it and didnt like it. Then you got a S3 today and you have already rooted it? Judging by your sig?
@OP I moved to the dfw area a few months ago and had Sprint. nearly two months went by, I had absolutely no service and they said it's because they're "upgrading". I don't call that much of an upgrade if I can't even make calls. And the wimax was still awful. So you made the right choice switching. I also switched to tmo, got an amazing deal and am loving the 4g, WiFi calling, and service in general. Plus the s3 makes it that much sweeter.
If you haven't yet, make sure to call and ask them to add the free WiFi calling onto your account.
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I won't try to dissuade you. If T-Mobile hadn't given me a good deal to stay, or I weren't on T-Mobile to start with, I might have decided to give the iPhone 5 a try. That said, my understanding from a relevative who happily uses Apple products is that, if as I do you use Google calendar and Gmail, then there's no significant advantage to the iPhone over the Galaxy S III. What you're left with is a choice between two very good products, each of which has advantages and disadvantages.
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I'm going to visit a local store and try out the S3 and check if it's possible to get my interest back to android.
Than only time will tell if I decide to cancel the order or not and get the S3 instead.
Also the 4G version of the Galaxy S3 is not released here in Sweden yet I think.
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So you preordered a phone? What provider? Then used it and didnt like it. Then you got a S3 today and you have already rooted it? Judging by your sig?
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I had T-Mobile to begin with (grandfathered with unlimited data). My plan doesn't end until December, but I figured I got tired of flashing unstable roms on my Nexus S that I'd give iPhone a try, as people kept saying "oh it's so easy to use and it's so stable". I used the iPhone 5 from Friday afternoon till Saturday night. I ran into too many customization / sync issues where I just had enough of it and I wiped the phone clean and ready to be returned. Sunday came and I called up Sprint, and cancelled my plan and set up my phone to be returned. Afterwards, went over to T-Mobile as I have the itch for a new phone. Spoke w/ the rep at the store and turns out I could upgrade my account for some reason (though I kept thinking I had to wait the full 2 years to upgrade my line). So picked up the GS3 right then and had everything up and running. I was already using ParanoidAndroid 2.13 on my Nexus S, so it wasn't difficult to get everything up and running. This is much improved over my last phone. 2GB ram vs 512MB (380MB usable) and 1.5GHz+ (oc'd to 1.7 via LeanKernel) vs 1.2GHz Marmite Kernel. GS3 was an overall much better experience.
As for the iPhone, it's a great phone (smooth, fast, and pretty). Great build quality and finish and amazing display. It did feel more delicate as the surface seemed a bit more prone to scratches (back and sides). Mine however was fine, but I don't speak for everyone. The anodized aluminum is more likely to get scratched, and I got the white one so it is less noticeable. The GS3, even though plastic, actually seemed more durable to everyday use, as one would probably not want to constantly worry about scratching the beautiful iPhone shell. Also accessories are scarce for the iPhone. My case was pre-ordered, and still not shipped out today. Cancelled that as I no longer plan on sticking with the iPhone. Also trying to get additional USB->Lightning cables was going to cause me to have to wait another 2-3 weeks due to backorder.
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@OP I moved to the dfw area a few months ago and had Sprint. nearly two months went by, I had absolutely no service and they said it's because they're "upgrading". I don't call that much of an upgrade if I can't even make calls. And the wimax was still awful. So you made the right choice switching. I also switched to tmo, got an amazing deal and am loving the 4g, WiFi calling, and service in general. Plus the s3 makes it that much sweeter.
If you haven't yet, make sure to call and ask them to add the free WiFi calling onto your account.
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As for Sprint, they had deceptive LTE advertising. I canceled well within the 14 day trial period ( < 72 hours to be exact). Sprint's 3G is the equivalent of dialup. T-mobile's 4G, even though not real 4G, is still comparable to cable/dsl speeds. Fios-like speeds of LTE is great, but not necessary. Just thinking about the data cap from AT&T or Verizon, as I'm not grandfathered on those plans, would mean constant worry about if I'm hitting cap or not. But anyways, I didn't sign up for Sprint to use my iPhone on WiFi or wait the 1-2 years till they finally finish rolling out LTE in DFW.
BTW, did you end up paying any termination fees? You stated 2 months went by. I just figured, I'd GTFO ASAP haha. Sprint's 3G was unacceptable in today's terms.
Aria807 said:
Preordered iPhone5. Received it Friday Sept 21. Returned Sunday 2-3 days later. Picked up t-mobile Galaxy S3 right after returning the iPhone5.
So glad I am back on Android. From the 2-3 days of ownership of the iPhone5/iOS (as this was my 1st iPhone and I just wanted to experiment to see how I'd like it), I was not able to do very basic things I wanted, or any reasonable person would expect to be able to do to a phone.
1st off, Ringtones. Anyone owning a phone would have a reasonable expectation to be able to change / add custom ringtones. Should I have to pay for it? Maybe, that is if I don't want to cut the songs myself. I already have ringtones from my last phone which was basic mp3s I could have drag/dropped over. But with iPhone, I had to go through tedious process of utilizing iTunes as a medium, converting to AAC format, moving onto desktop, deleting the ones in iTunes, then renaming the .m4a format to .m4r, then dragging it back into iTunes, then syncing. I could have done all this on Android by just plugging it to my comp, locate Ringtones folder, dropped it in, and done.
Sync was an issue too. I'm pretty sure most people use gmail in some way, and all my contacts are in gmail. Tried to get contacts to sync over to iCloud was a hassle. It would only sync the root folder group of contacts and not the other groups. I had to manually export each contact group to my comp, then import into iCloud. Now if I added/made changes to a contact on my iPhone, I'd have to go back home, and re-enter a new contact in google. It's just not a seamless process.
Also the AppStore. Every 15 minutes I want to get an app, I am asked to enter a password. And Apple requires a complicated pw with uppercase/lowercase, numbers, special characters. It's not by any means easy to type on the phone every time I want to install something.
No widgets either on iOs. No notification widgets to easy turn on/off options like WiFi, screen rotation, GPS, Bluetooth. I have to go into settings and navigate through menus to turn them on/off.
I didn't like how all the apps just show up on the home screen as iOS doesn't have a drawer like Android, and I'd have to dump everything into folders if I didn't want to see it. Also all the icons just align from right to left, top to bottom. I can't change where they are on the page except for the order it flows. I read maybe JailBreaking can help with this customization, but I don't think I want to wait that long for an untethered JB to be available for the iPhone5 to be released.
Forgot to add, I have a TF700 and I utilize TabletTalk to sync SMS to my Tablet and send SMS via the Tablet. This wouldn't have worked out for an Android Tablet with an iPhone.
Side issue that affected me, but unrelated to Apple, was the fact Sprint had deceptive advertising regarding their LTE coverage. As you guys know, iPhone is either 3G or LTE; no WiMax. In DFW, even though coverage map shows I am clearly in 4G LTE coverage, Sprint indeed only had 1 LTE tower up and running in the other side of Dallas of where I am at. And Dallas is a pretty damn big city, so all I ever saw was 3G. Sprint's 3G was < 1mbps down/upload, which is unacceptable as I am paying for "unlimited 3g/4g data" cost of an additional $10/month. It is hardly enough bandwidth to stream music / video or let alone download apps unless I am connected to WiFi; which then goes back to the point of why am I even paying for data. Unlimited data is pointless at that speed and I'm not going to wait 1-2 yrs for Sprint to finish rolling out LTE in Dallas; since by then my contract would have expired anyways and I could just switch to Sprint then.
But overall, I didn't try to / demand anything complicated out of the phone. The simple things I wanted it to do, didn't go as I had expected, even though I kept hearing how easy iPhones are to use, and how stable it is. Stable OS, smooth processing, and pretty, yes. But basic simple customization / syncing, no. And now I totally understand when Android users are trolling iPhone users.
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Yup Apple sucks
In my case it was for chainfire (that's been a disaster btw), shutter sound and nandroid backups.
Haven't really felt the need to do much else. This phone is a beautifull beast that needs very little more than stock.
THIS
Which brings me to my next question:
Will sprint start charging me for teathering if I use wifi teather?
Well I spent $200 on this phone, why not root it? I want it to be MY phone and look and feel the way I want it to.
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I rooted because the device support is huge. After watching a Qbking vid on rooting, I saw it was a piece of cake to root
Because I want to be able to use the phone to its full potential. Why pay all the money for the phone only to have limitations?
Cerberus, Tasker, ROM Toolbox Pro, Wifi Tether, shall I go on?
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Well I spent $200 on this phone, why not root it? I want it to be MY phone and look and feel the way I want it to.
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That's exactly why I root and why I have become a big android fan. Can't ever really make a crapple device yours.
Agreed, well in my case I just payed $160.97 at wal-mart for my Galaxy S3, lolz but besides the case phone is awesome, and yes i rooted, because of the limiations, if u payed so much for a phone why not make it completely ures instead of this carriers telling u what u can and cannot do with it. Personally i use it more for the increase in memory, rom control, better battery and nandroids, does really come in handy, and i mean really handy. Ofcourse wifi tethering, many many more which list is too long to mention.
I agree this phone is reaaaally good. I haven't put a ROM on it.
But I did root it for WiFi Tether and Roam Control.
I started rooting to improve battery life. It works if I leave the damn phone alone, but I usually end up flashing another rom before the battery life settles.
for me it was primarily for 3 reasons.
#1 removing crap I want gone
#2 Adjusting LCD Density
#3 Semi Custom Rom installation (I tend to stick with "stock" based roms to retain samsung functions)
1. Wifi Tether
2. Adfree
3. So I can change the double tap to google voice instead of S voice, by using a program called Home2 Shortcut.. :good:
What everybody else posted, plus roam control for the nonexistent Sprint signal I get in my office building.
I didn't mind TouchWiz as much as I thought I would, especially after the OTA update. That said, I tinker. That's what I do. I moved to Android from iOS because even as much as I enjoyed that ecosystem and the awesome developers we had in the jailbreaking community, the OS itself was getting stale and was hitting a dead end. While jailbreaking provides system access, you could really only building on top of the existing OS and at some point, it'd all been done. I'd reached a peak and I needed something new.
Don't get me wrong, iOS was great and jailbreaking was fun. My iPhone 4S was truly my own and it worked and looked the way I needed and wanted it to. If it wasn't for that I would never understand a thing about developing and I would not be as passionate about mobile tech as I am now. I was happy with it for four years, and my decision to change wasn't made out of disdain for Apple. It was simply that I loved tech and it was time for something new.
Android gives me the opportunity to continue tinkering. Instead of just jailbreaking for features, I could flash entire ROMs and am allowed a much greater degree of flexibility in tweaking my workflow. Simply put, rooting lets me do what I need to do for my device to supplement my daily life in the best way.
tl;dr I'm a grown man and I do whatever the heck I want.
Because carriers are slow to fix things, they optimize erring on the side of safety, and I am a tinkerer.
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Adfree, titanium backup, root explorer, and other such tools/utilities.
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I root because I want 100% control of my phone.
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