http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/26/business/sprint-posts-a-big-loss-on-decline-in-subscribers.html
interestingforsome well at least to me
Not important nor relevant. What matters is the losses come from Nextel customers moving on. The more the merrier. Nextel iden network is the cause of most of sprints woe. The less they need to financially support that old legacy network, the more they can spend on network vision upgrades.
What you should be looking at is that they have an increase in postpaid customers once again. Up to 2.3 million postpaid and 800k prepaid while Nextel iden lost 1.3 million with 3.1 million left.
Last year they had around 46 million subscribers and now they have almost 53 million.
All in all, it's not bad. Just sprint spending alll they can on network vision. Also they did not take into account soft banks 2.7 billion n USD cash infusion yet.
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Not important nor relevant. What matters is the losses come from Nextel customers moving on. The more the merrier. Nextel iden network is the cause of most of sprints woe. The less they need to financially support that old legacy network, the more they can spend on network vision upgrades.
What you should be looking at is that they have an increase in postpaid customers once again. Up to 2.3 million postpaid and 800k prepaid while Nextel iden lost 1.3 million with 3.1 million left.
Last year they had around 46 million subscribers and now they have almost 53 million.
All in all, it's not bad. Just sprint spending alll they can on network vision. Also they did not take into account soft banks 2.7 billion n USD cash infusion yet.
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to imply that it's not important and not bad in the same reply is asinine
large opperating loss for two years this year greatly bigger is important especially effects network vision upgrades and based on your comment you obviously haven't read the article I posted
May I point you here
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/2458-sprint-3rd-quarter-results/page__st__20
where the 3rd quarter results have been discussed and also to these websites where they give some analysis of sprints situation.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57540389-94/sprint-ceo-customer-losses-arent-as-scary-as-they-look/
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http://www.fiercewireless.com/story...extel-shutdown-looms/2012-10-25#ixzz2AKsKYNsH
Also, Sprint has been operating on losses for literally years. Network vision upgrades are already planned and is ramping up regardless of debt and or losses. In fact, to counter the point about the effects on network vision deployment. Some 3rd round markets (jan-june 2013) markets have already begun deployment way ahead of schedule (http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...ersey-and-delaware-markets-ahead-of-schedule/) while many others are being completely shaken up thanks to the SoftBank deal. Then there is the $2.7 billion cash infusion from SoftBank and the nearly $6 bill in cash and assets that sprint owns.
lilotimz said:
May I point you here
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/2458-sprint-3rd-quarter-results/page__st__20
where the 3rd quarter results have been discussed and also to these websites where they give some analysis of sprints situation.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57540389-94/sprint-ceo-customer-losses-arent-as-scary-as-they-look/
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http://www.fiercewireless.com/story...extel-shutdown-looms/2012-10-25#ixzz2AKsKYNsH
Also, Sprint has been operating on losses for literally years. Network vision upgrades are already planned and is ramping up regardless of debt and or losses. In fact, to counter the point about the effects on network vision deployment. Some 3rd round markets (jan-june 2013) markets have already begun deployment way ahead of schedule (http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...ersey-and-delaware-markets-ahead-of-schedule/). Then there is the $2.7 billion cash infusion from SoftBank and the nearly $6 bill in cash and assets that sprint owns.
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Not to mention sprint has to kill off iden subscribers to reclaim the used spectrum to complete the whole of the NV rollout.
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lilotimz said:
May I point you here
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/2458-sprint-3rd-quarter-results/page__st__20
where the 3rd quarter results have been discussed and also to these websites where they give some analysis of sprints situation.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57540389-94/sprint-ceo-customer-losses-arent-as-scary-as-they-look/
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http://www.fiercewireless.com/story...extel-shutdown-looms/2012-10-25#ixzz2AKsKYNsH
Also, Sprint has been operating on losses for literally years. Network vision upgrades are already planned and is ramping up regardless of debt and or losses. In fact, to counter the point about the effects on network vision deployment. Some 3rd round markets (jan-june 2013) markets have already begun deployment way ahead of schedule (http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...ersey-and-delaware-markets-ahead-of-schedule/) while many others are being completely shaken up thanks to the SoftBank deal. Then there is the $2.7 billion cash infusion from SoftBank and the nearly $6 bill in cash and assets that sprint owns.
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the main point of the article is the fact it is not regaining Nextel customers and is not profitable
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the main point of the article is the fact it is not regaining Nextel customers and is not profitable
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Which is not a major factor to sprint. The majority of the remaining Nextel customers are business ones who will have to make a choice between going to sprints network or another competitors. Most will take Vz or ATT anyways but it's always nice to retain some but not something to cry over. What matters most is the spectrum the Nextel's legacy iDen network holds, aka the 800 mhz band.
Who cares about short term money and subscriber losses, thanks to iDen, when you have the future in front of you. Get rid of iDen and regain that 800mhz spectrum block for NV 2.0 expansion and you'll be gaining millions upon millions of new customers with an unlimited LTE network on the 800mhz / 1900 mhz / CW 2.5ghz bands which can be one of the most/ if not the most advanced network in the US.
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Which is not a major factor to sprint. The majority of the remaining Nextel customers are business ones who will have to make a choice between going to sprints network or another competitors. Most will take Vz or ATT anyways but it's always nice to retain some but not something to cry over. What matters most is the spectrum the Nextel's legacy iDen network holds, aka the 800 mhz band.
Who cares about short term money and subscriber losses, thanks to iDen, when you have the future in front of you. Get rid of iDen and regain that 800mhz spectrum block for NV 2.0 expansion and you'll be gaining millions upon millions of new customers with an unlimited LTE network on the 800mhz / 1900 mhz / CW 2.5ghz bands which can be one of the most/ if not the most advanced network in the US.
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doubt it . and none of thatmatters with out subscribers Sprint canblab all theywant but they never produce results
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doubt it . and none of thatmatters with out subscribers Sprint canblab all theywant but they never produce results
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Right. That's why SoftBank (one of Japans biggest telecoms) brought a 70% (approx $20 billion USD) stake in Sprint. That's why they just gave Sprint a $2.7 billion dollar cash injection. Hesse along with Sprints management & Softbank is looking at the future. Temporary losses are meaningless when there are great plans to accomplish. Whereas people like you look at every quarter and year by year to form opinions on companies, people like Hesse and Son look at the next year, 5 years, 10 years. That's why Sprint has a good future ahead of them.
I like the discussion, but one thread about Sprint in general is enough. :silly:
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im not sure why i just expected my dash to be 3g enabled...i just figured that when tmo would roll it out theyd give ya a new sim and viola!...so when i call and ask when, effin tmo says YES, we have 3g in dallas (so im all excited...bummer) anyways, instead of paying 400 bux early termination JUST to have faster net with att, im curious to what phones tmo offers that are either similar to dash or better(but under 300 bucks)
my next question, with a 3g sim card...would i be able to just buy an htc (anything cool) or can i use another network's 3g phone and unlock it?
i would really like to keep my dash, but i really want faster net/youtube.
so basically, what are my options for a 3g phone using tmo's network and best htc's phone "bang for the buck"-qwerty or touch doesnt matter.
also, mods-sorry to post this in excalibur, please move or bump if necessary
thanks in advance for the help, much appreciated
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im not sure why i just expected my dash to be 3g enabled...i just figured that when tmo would roll it out theyd give ya a new sim and viola!...so when i call and ask when, effin tmo says YES, we have 3g in dallas (so im all excited...bummer) anyways, instead of paying 400 bux early termination JUST to have faster net with att, im curious to what phones tmo offers that are either similar to dash or better(but under 300 bucks)
my next question, with a 3g sim card...would i be able to just buy an htc (anything cool) or can i use another network's 3g phone and unlock it?
i would really like to keep my dash, but i really want faster net/youtube.
so basically, what are my options for a 3g phone using tmo's network and best htc's phone "bang for the buck"-qwerty or touch doesnt matter.
also, mods-sorry to post this in excalibur, please move or bump if necessary
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your gonna have to buy a phone that supports 3G and the dash will never be a 3G phone sorry to say if u want a 3G phone like i said your gonna have to buy an unlocked phone that supports 3G. i myself wish my dash ran on 3G but you cant always get what you want.
That's not going to work either, I'm afraid. T-Mobile bought a wonky new frequency spectrum from the FCC for their 3G network. It's the first time this frequency has been used at all in the world, so you're not going to find a non-tmoUSA phone to use 3G on tmo's network. As much as I like them (and assuming it's not just the FCC's fault), this could be another shrewd form of a subsidy lock.
Also, to reinforce this point, it's extremely difficult for manufacturers to include all the voice bands and all the data bands on current phones as it is. It will be even more difficult to find a true "world phone" anymore that works with 3G as well as voice, both around the world and at home on tmo.
To see a list of new phones coming out, check http://tmonews.com/forums/index.php?topic=112.0. Some of them support 3G.
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That's not going to work either, I'm afraid. T-Mobile bought a wonky new frequency spectrum from the FCC for their 3G network. It's the first time this frequency has been used at all in the world, so you're not going to find a non-tmoUSA phone to use 3G on tmo's network. As much as I like them, this was another shrewd subsidy lock.
Also, to reinforce this point, it's extremely difficult for manufacturers to include all the voice bands and all the data bands on current phones as it is. It will be even more difficult to find a true "world phone" anymore that works with 3G around the world as well as voice.
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what frequency did they get? current att 3g is 1900, isn't it?
I think it's 1700
Here's an October 2006 article from endgadget:
As expected, T-Mobile has provided full disclosure today on exactly what it plans to do with all that juicy spectrum picked up in this summer's FCC auctions. Having been left out of the 3G race put on by its fellow national carriers, it comes as no surprise that T-Mobile has officially committed to rolling out UMTS / HSDPA on the 1700 and 2100MHz bands at a cost of some $2.1 billion. Unfortunately, the specrum is a few megahertz off from the UMTS 2100 used elsewhere, meaning existing 3G handsets designed to operate in Europe will be relegated to doing their 2.5G thing when roaming stateside; that being said, beggars can't be choosers, and we're sure T-Mobile is ecstatic to simply have somewhere to drop some next-gen data. Perhaps understanding that the wireless customer base at large can be both fickle and impatient, the nation's fourth-largest carrier is wasting no time getting its 3G equipment set up -- the rollout begins, like, now (they claim half of NYC's hardware is already in place) and will continue through the next several years, with compatible handsets and peripherals hitting retail sometime in mid 2007. Seeing how we're writing this very article from a 3G connection ourselves, all we can say is that it can't come a moment too soon.
Which means that a "world phone" now would have to be 1900/850 for cingular 3G, 1700/2100 for T-mobile USA and an additional 2100 band for Europe, ASIA and everywhere else.
TMO'S 3g
1700/2100 Aws ......!
You can always look into the G1 (Googles Android) It will be a bad ass phone/smart/pda/whatever u wanna call it... Looks wise its not all that BUT just bc of all its capable of, it will be WELL worth it, google it BTW i read somewhere on the net the G1 will be available to us T-mo users starting at $200, dont quote me on that though. There are rumors it will be released in about a month or so (Sept 17). I cant freaking wait!!!!!!
BTW heres a pic leaked online, looks a LOT better in black
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You can always look into the G1 (Googles Android) It will be a bad ass phone/smart/pda/whatever u wanna call it... Looks wise its not all that BUT just bc of all its capable of, it will be WELL worth it, google it BTW i read somewhere on the net the G1 will be available to us T-mo users starting at $200, dont quote me on that though. There are rumors it will be released in about a month or so (Sept 17). I cant freaking wait!!!!!!
BTW heres a pic leaked online, looks a LOT better in black
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thats faulse information it will not be coming out september 17th nore will the presale be comeing out that day it has been pushed to september 23rd according to Android Community.com i am very excited about this phone and cant wait to buy it i shall be one of the 1st 100 people to have that phone.
I know there are a lot of threads popping up when 4G is confirmed in new areas. But is there anywhere to find a rollout map of when it may be coming to a new area. I did a search on here and Sprint's website but couldn't find anything and I can't get the same answer from two separate reps in town. I'm asking specifically about Omaha, NE, but feel free to post updates on any new rollout city.
TIA
Doubt we'll see it anytime soon, but I could be wrong.
I talked to old friend who happends to work on 4g and he said 2014
2014!!!! I sure hope its before that!
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The map is here:
http://www.clear.com/coverage
you guys might want to check this out...
I personally called the attorney and I think everyone without 4g service should do the same.
"Law Offices of Scott A. Bursor, Law Offices of Scott A. Bursor, is investigating claims that these charges may be improper.
If you purchased a Sprint EVO 4G or EPIC 4G cellphone, we would like to hear from you so we can investigate whether you incurred this charge, how many customers have been affected, and whether there may be valid legal claims for a refund. Please contact us by responding to this email or by calling us directly at (646) 504-7781.
About Law Offices of Scott A. Bursor
Scott A. Bursor, has represented plaintiffs in class action lawsuits against Sprint and other wireless carriers since 2002. Many of these cases are discussed in detail at Law Offices of Scott A. Bursor.
Contact:
Scott A. Bursor
Email: [email protected]
Law Offices of Scott A. Bursor "
courtesy of PhyscoAssassinx over at ppcgeeks
dont trust the maps.
they are used as a crutch by carriers to say that they have coverage there so that they can justify poor customer service. regardless, if youre on sprint and want 4g, call them and complain.
if you call sprint and they get three or more calls regarding the same problem, they initiate a ticket and begin to officially look into the issues the customers are wanting/complaining about
It's a crap shoot. Have a buddy that works for a Sprint retailer and their Sprint rep told him "by the end of the month, all the equipment is there, installed, and just waiting for the ON switch to be flipped."
This was at the beginning of Feb. I told him not to believe it, but he told everyone he knew, lol.
It's in Omaha, NE
I'm currently in downtown Omaha, NE and I just checked. It's a weak signal but it's definitely here!
WOOOO!!!
Lincoln 4G
I'm in Lincoln and was at the Sprint store last week and the employees were all excited because they said they just found out we would be getting 4G this September. I can't imagine Omaha being behind that.
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dyinman said:
I'm currently in downtown Omaha, NE and I just checked. It's a weak signal but it's definitely here!
WOOOO!!!
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What speeds were you getting there? I see on the Clear coverage map it shows downtown Omaha but almost all of Council Bluffs.
ajasso21 said:
What speeds were you getting there? I see on the Clear coverage map it shows downtown Omaha but almost all of Council Bluffs.
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Funny, the clear map shows most of Lincoln covered too but my phone's not locking on to anything...
gatorlee said:
you guys might want to check this out...
I personally called the attorney and I think everyone without 4g service should do the same.
"Law Offices of Scott A. Bursor, Law Offices of Scott A. Bursor, is investigating claims that these charges may be improper.
If you purchased a Sprint EVO 4G or EPIC 4G cellphone, we would like to hear from you so we can investigate whether you incurred this charge, how many customers have been affected, and whether there may be valid legal claims for a refund. Please contact us by responding to this email or by calling us directly at (646) 504-7781.
About Law Offices of Scott A. Bursor
Scott A. Bursor, has represented plaintiffs in class action lawsuits against Sprint and other wireless carriers since 2002. Many of these cases are discussed in detail at Law Offices of Scott A. Bursor.
Contact:
Scott A. Bursor
Email: [email protected]
Law Offices of Scott A. Bursor "
courtesy of PhyscoAssassinx over at ppcgeeks
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Yeah just what you want to do, contact a lawyer who doesn't know what he is talking about. I will reiterate this in all caps since noone seems to be getting the picture.
THE 10$ A MONTH PREMIUM DATA CHARGE, IS NOT A 4G CHARGE, IT IS APPLIED TO ALL SMARTPHONES, NOT JUST THE EVO, THE EVO SHIFT, OR THE EPIC. ALL SMARTPHONES.
And just for good measure, this is directly from your BILL on the sprint website.
Sprint Premium Data said:
The Premium Data add-on charge is required for smartphones. We require this add-on for phones made to deliver a superior wireless experience including Web, email, video and social networking.
Sprint smartphones currently are: Android, BlackBerry, Palm, Instinct and Windows Mobile phones.
On average, smartphone users use 10 times more data than customers with basic or feature phones. With this charge, Smartphone customers will continue to receive unlimited data and experience Sprint’s simplified services and rates, being able to take advantage of a rich data experience while on the Sprint network.
If you would like an unlimited data plan, for a lower rate, and avoid this charge, you may want to check out some of our feature phones which do not require the $10 Premium Data add-on charge.
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What speeds were you getting there? I see on the Clear coverage map it shows downtown Omaha but almost all of Council Bluffs.
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I was seeing anywhere from 3-3.7mbps. I wonder why they chose CB before Omaha?
Just caught wind from a few guys I work with that a small section of Bellevue has 4G coverage. Heard that it worked along HW-370 from 60th to 32nd.
When I got off today I drove down to 32nd and 370, sure enough it connected. Bounced between the 'fair' and 'poor' signal strength. I know there's Heavy debate on download speed tests, but it was a significantly higher speeds than so called "3G" (by the way if anyone wants to sue, sue over that, my 3G speeds are ****e anywhere in the Omaha market.)
Screenshots all taken from a static location.
Standard 3G
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4G connection
4G speed test
And to show that these speed tests are quite varied- here's the same 4G signal with a different speed test app. FCC never clocked that high...
Take it as you will.
There are pockets in Omaha. It is for testing for business applications. I don't know when full 4G coverage will be in Omaha, as no communications have been sent out anywhere about it. To be truthful, I would not hold your breath.
Yeah wouldn't hold my breath either.. Lol. Talked to a sprint tech and they confirmed that it was just testing that it probably won't last.
Very frustrating that you can't very a straight answer from these people, I've gotten so many different stories from "sprint reps."
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/02/sprint-gives-lightsquared-an-extra-30-days-to-gain-fcc-approval/
Doesn't seem like Sprint can catch a break related to "4g" eh?
Clear issues, now Lightsquared.
Any insight on why light squared isn't able to garner FCC approval.
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FCC approval will never come due GPS conflict Its a con game sprints been playing on their customers for some time.
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FCC approval was never going to come due GPS conflict Its a con game both have been playing for some time.
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Hmmmm thanks for the input , time to research.
Edit interesting article
http://www.insidegnss.com/node/2839
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The thing is everyone points a finger at light squared but its not their fault. The real problem is that gps is intruding on lightsquareds spectrum and not the other way around. The fcc and the gps makers want lightsquared to foot the bill for a problem they both have created. Its not fair and the fcc needs to step up take ownership and say sorry we fell asleep at the wheel and make the gps makers foot the bill and give them a timeline of when it needs to be done.
The real story is Falcone bought some property cheap that he thought he could build on, then when he went to build, found there were long-time squatters. He kind of knew about them when he bought the property but thought he could kick them off the land since they weren't supposed to be there, but the squatters were more organized than he thought. Also the other property owners around there like charging higher rents and Falcone was planning on charging lower rents, so those property owners got on the side of the squatters.
This is not taking sides who is right or wrong, just explaining the situation.
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The thing is everyone points a finger at light squared but its not their fault. The real problem is that gps is intruding on lightsquareds spectrum and not the other way around. The fcc and the gps makers want lightsquared to foot the bill for a problem they both have created. Its not fair and the fcc needs to step up take ownership and say sorry we fell asleep at the wheel and make the gps makers foot the bill and give them a timeline of when it needs to be done.
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I agree 100% lightSquared not at fault but this outcome was expected.
Sprint played it down no big deal throwing LTE 2012 promises.
sling said:
I agree 100% lightSquared not at fault but this outcome was expected.
Sprint played it down no big deal throwing LTE 2012 promises to customers.
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Either way Sprint will be bringing LTE to customers.
Losing LightSquared will just slow it down.
Losing LightSquared affects how much LTE capacity Sprint will have available.
It won't affect Sprint's LTE deployment schedule because Sprint was the one providing the towers for LightSquared, not the other way around.
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Either way Sprint will be bringing LTE to customers.
Losing LightSquared will just slow it down.
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Sounds great what spectrum will their LTE be running on?
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Sounds great what spectrum will their LTE be running on?
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Sprint has spectrum in 800 from Nextel and their own 1900 spectrum and finally whatever they can get Clear to convert on 2500.
800 doesn't really have enough for high-bandwidth apps, but they probably would use it to shift things around to make more room at 1900.
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Sounds great what spectrum will their LTE be running on?
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I was going to answer you...but... ^
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I was going to answer you...but... ^
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The answer to be expected but the problem is $$$$...the lack of it in Sprints pocket.
I guess we all can keep LTE dreaming with the final product even delayed more lol
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Sprint has over $6 billion in matured stock and that value is increasing daily.
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What exactly is "matured" stock? Sprint's stock has been decreasing since the Nextel merger.
sfhub said:
What exactly is "matured" stock? Sprint's stock has been decreasing since the Nextel merger.
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There are very few stocks that haven't declined since that merger.
Way to go economy.
All D's fancy wurdz ... is we gettings 4ggzz lte eees soown?
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If I remember correctly, they had stated on their network vision page that they would be using the iDEN spectrum to roll out LTE.
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sprint was initially rolling it out on 1900 and moving it to 850 when they shut down nextel ..... but the first was 1900 .....they wont touch the 2500 **** ..... if you put lte on it ... it will be just as bad as wimax sprint wont do that they will try to keep the blame on wimax not the frequency
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There are very few stocks that haven't declined since that merger.
Way to go economy.
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Sprint is down 90% since the merger completed.
S&P 500 is virtually unchanged with runs up 20+% in between.
IMO there is a big difference between the performance of stocks "in general" and Sprint
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sprint was initially rolling it out on 1900 and moving it to 850 when they shut down nextel ..... but the first was 1900 .....they wont touch the 2500 **** ..... if you put lte on it ... it will be just as bad as wimax sprint wont do that they will try to keep the blame on wimax not the frequency
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There's nothing wrong with a tiered approach, using 2500 to offload data traffic for outdoor users and reserving your more appropriate lower frequencies for indoor use.
Clearwire issue is 2500 was the *only* spectrum they were using.
sfhub said:
Sprint is down 90% since the merger completed.
S&P 500 is virtually unchanged with runs up 20+% in between.
IMO there is a big difference between the performance of stocks "in general" and Sprint
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It wasn't meant to be taken absolutely literal.
Even Microsoft has only recently climbed back up to close to "unchanged" for the past 8 years.
That really shows how the past 8 years have been.
Anyway this is really neither here nor there.
Not relevant to the thread.
I was told by a sprint employee they were, then here that they're not. Then I see this in a thread...
reddragon72 said:
Same issue in Houston two days ago. Wife's Evo 4G had no issues connecting right next to me so I knew it wasn't a tower issue, but my phone or the plan. Called Sprint and talked to three people. The last person I got was in the 4G department. They found that the system is going through upgrades right now for LTE, but he would not elaberate due to privacy concerns... or something like that. He said that my phone had been removed from the Wimax channel to the LTE channel. Since that happened the towers were ignoring my request for an IP. He said the phone is either setup for Wimax or LTE but not for both. 0_o So I asked him how to setup the phone for LTE and he said "there is no need yet since LTE is not open to the public, but only in the testing phase" So I asked... exactly "So can I call back and have my phone switched from Wimax to LTE when LTE is opened up to the public in Houston?" He said "Yes"?!?!?!?!
What does that mean??? He knows all about my phone and what it can do so why did he say that?
Also he mentioned that this seems to be happening to all Epic 4G Touch phones since they are listed in the Sprint system as LTE capable. So that is why people in Q1/Q2 LTE area's are having the issue.
Call sprint and get the 4G people on the phone to reprop your phone from LTE channel back to Wimax.
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Caulkins E4GT GB 2.9.2 bare ROM, FB27 modem, rogue gunslinger kernel on one EPIC beast of a phone.
No.
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No they are not. Do not always listen to a Sprint employee 90% of them are flat out stupid. We will not have LTE support. There IS however a SPH-L710 that passed WiFi certs a few weeks back. My guess is that it's the SGS2 but with LTE support and WiMax removed.
Asking a Sprint call center employee to explain or elaborate on a technical detail of their network is like asking a McDonalds counter person to explain how they raised their cows.
They'll give you their 4th grade education mixed with overheard and misunderstood watercooler rumor as fact. "Could you turn off your phone, and pull out the battery? Now restart it! See its fixed, just like our network! Thanks for calling Sprint! Is there anything I can do for you?"***
Oh, btw, if for some reason our phones were capable, it would have been a selling point since release. So, sadly, no.
And if you google it, there are some people talking about tear-downs, and the visible chips, and how those chips are not LTE capable....
(*** btw, not a Sprint hater. Or even a Sprint employee hater. just a call-center, script-reading, poor misinformed souls hater. please don't attempt to answer my question if you don't actually know the answer just to boost your solution resolution percentages)
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ahoyt05 said:
I was told by a sprint employee they were, then here that they're not.
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In my limited dealings with sprint cs, they aren't the brightest.
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"So can I call back and have my phone switched from Wimax to LTE when LTE is opened up to the public in Houston?" He said "Yes"?!?!?!?!
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When it's worded that way, the guy probably thought he was asking if he can switch to an LTE capable phone. If current Wimax phones only needed a firmware update to work on LTE, Sprint would be doing some good PR work so everyone knew it.
There's a reason the G-Nex is advertised as "Sprints first LTE phone"
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I LOL'ed when I saw that hahaha
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ydoucare said:
When it's worded that way, the guy probably thought he was asking if he can switch to an LTE capable phone. If current Wimax phones only needed a firmware update to work on LTE, Sprint would be doing some good PR work so everyone knew it.
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I agree I assumed he was implying that as well.
It is true though that these phones are not LTE capable.
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The only way this phone is going to get you anywhere near lte is if it breaks and asurion runs out of replacements
Somewhat true
I will look for the Doc about this,but I did read some investor fact sheets for sprint transfer to LTE. The big selling point for big investors to put money into sprints LTE was a wider spectrum that would include the bands needed for wimax phones to receive 4g in a sprint LTE only area.
They use a similar system in France, China and other countries where the gov stepped in and funded a super fast wireless broadband system. Are phones would still not be able to roam on LTE but on Sprints network we would still benefit from LTE.
sprint op are dumb. You need to have an LTE chip for that feature
MvDef said:
I will look for the Doc about this,but I did read some investor fact sheets for sprint transfer to LTE. The big selling point for big investors to put money into sprints LTE was a wider spectrum that would include the bands needed for wimax phones to receive 4g in a sprint LTE only area.
They use a similar system in France, China and other countries where the gov stepped in and funded a super fast wireless broadband system. Are phones would still not be able to roam on LTE but on Sprints network we would still benefit from LTE.
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Would that benefit not come from users going to LTE and getting off (for the most part) of the 3G however. If Sprint is in fact doing things somewhat like Verizon is most 3G data is being offloaded (iirc) to the LTE band which frees up 3G.
cidica said:
Would that benefit not come from users going to LTE and getting off (for the most part) of the 3G however. If Sprint is in fact doing things somewhat like Verizon is most 3G data is being offloaded (iirc) to the LTE band which frees up 3G.
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The way you put it makes it to easy. next time I'm not going ramble on and on.....
Hahaaa
yang704 said:
sprint op are dumb. You need to have an LTE chip for that feature
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Also, having a processor that supports LTE wouldn't hurt.
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Well, turns out that rumors of a MetroPCS and T-Mobile merger weren't completely off base. While we wouldn't expect Deutsche Telekom to announce the sale of its US property any time soon, the German giant has confirmed that its holding talks with America's sixth largest mobile operator to combine the two networks. The prospective deal would involve combining the two into a single entity, with Deutsche Telekom as the majority shareholder. Of course there are significant obstacles in the way, including divergent network technologies and distinctly different marketing strategies. This is, of course, just the latest scene in the ongoing piece of corporate theater that almost saw the struggling magenta carrier absorbed by AT&T. We'll of course be following closely to see if such a move would sit a little better with government regulators. The complete statement from Deutsche Telekom confirming the talks is after the break.
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-Engadget
http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/02/deutsche-telekom-mulling-t-mobile-metropcs-marriage/
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-...-said-to-near-deal-with-metropcs-in-u-s-.html
Thoughts???
From Bloomberg
T-Mobile USA, with 33.2 million customers at the end of June, or a third of each of market leaders Verizon Wireless and AT&T, is seeking to stem client losses it has suffered partly because it doesn’t have the rights to sell Apple Inc. (AAPL)’s iPhone.
A combination with Richardson, Texas-based MetroPCS would give T-Mobile USA, with its headquarters in Bellevue, Washington, an additional 9.3 million prepaid customers.
T-Mobile USA, the fourth-largest U.S. carrier, has lost 2.76 million contract customers, or more than 10 percent of its subscriber base, in the eight quarters through June.
Shares of MetroPCS were up 18 percent at $13.54 as of 12:32 p.m. in New York, giving the company a market value of $4.9 billion. Deutsche Telekom closed 1.3 percent higher on the Frankfurt exchange, after surging as much as 4.4 percent. The former German phone monopoly has a market capitalization of 42.1 billion euros ($54.5 billion). Sprint Nextel slumped as much as 7.1 percent in New York.
They gonna merge for 1 year thats what my boss told me ....
Ironically I had JUST heard at work today from someone that late October MetroPCS would be selling the SGS3. I figured he had no idea what he was talking about. About 30 minutes later, I saw this posted on Facebook by Androidandme.
Pretty interesting.
uoY_redruM said:
Ironically I had JUST heard at work today from someone that late October MetroPCS would be selling the SGS3. I figured he had no idea what he was talking about. About 30 minutes later, I saw this posted on Facebook by Androidandme.
Pretty interesting.
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Check their website, they're giving one away. It's on the front page.
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Might explain why the MetroPCS store near my location closed! Drove by saw their sigh was upside down and saw that the store was gutted out!
uoY_redruM said:
Ironically I had JUST heard at work today from someone that late October MetroPCS would be selling the SGS3. I figured he had no idea what he was talking about. About 30 minutes later, I saw this posted on Facebook by Androidandme.
Pretty interesting.
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Couple of weeks ago my boss had a meeting regarding about the GS3 LTE they gonna relase it somewhere before the year is over ...
Makes sense for T-Mobile for a couple of reasons.
1. MetroPCS has quite a bit of PCS (1900 MHz) and AWS (1700 MHz) spectrum, both which are needed by T-Mobile now, especially with the refarming and imminent LTE roll out.
2. MetroPCS' customers are all prepaid, so T-Mobile can eventually wean them off of CDMA phones.
3. MetroPCS has already begun rolling out their LTE network, so it will give T-Mobile a nice boost.
4. Gives T-Mobile about 10 million more customers, something they desperately needed.
Nice to see DT is trying their best to improve T-Mobile and make them competitive. Sad to say (being an Android fan), but the next logical step would be getting a deal done with Apple for the iPhone.
Might take a while. Antitrust laws can be degrimental to their plans
I don't think antitrust will be a problem, this is a lot different than the AT&T merger. The reasons pointed out ^^^^^ are great ones. I think the nearly 10m new users will help bring more services/quality. Looks like tmo is making the right moves, getting a new CEO and now this. It's definitely bad news for sprint/boost/virgin though. If all 5 carriers ended up under the tmo banner that could be pretty awesome :good: Consolidating to less carriers could be bad or good but I think the added competitive strength and compatibilities to take on Verizon and AT&T would be good in the long run.
News like this always excites me because it shows tmo is making big moves. This is much better than them being acquired by some evil giant :laugh:
Mergers always bring higher priceslower competition. Nothing to cheer up.
It is a done deal
They are merging
DONE....
http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/03/deutsche-telekom-and-metropcs-boards-approve-t-mobile-merger/
Both companies have approved a deal. They move fast
I think this move will definitely help with the push for LTE so I'm happy.
I am really glad since I love in a Tmobile and metro PCs area
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http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/articles/t-mobile-metropcs-combine
As long as they keep Carly!
I love T-Mobile!
Thank god the name will stay as T-Mobile and nothing something stupid like MetroMobile.
ScottBroker said:
They are merging
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You mean they did already. Money paid and working on implementation of both networks as we speak. For those excited for LTE you got your wish it just depends on when their done setting it in stone, they are already testing in 5 states one of which it Texas.
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Some nice slides about how this will improve T-Mobile:
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