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So are our phones LTE capable???

I was told by a sprint employee they were, then here that they're not. Then I see this in a thread...
reddragon72 said:
Same issue in Houston two days ago. Wife's Evo 4G had no issues connecting right next to me so I knew it wasn't a tower issue, but my phone or the plan. Called Sprint and talked to three people. The last person I got was in the 4G department. They found that the system is going through upgrades right now for LTE, but he would not elaberate due to privacy concerns... or something like that. He said that my phone had been removed from the Wimax channel to the LTE channel. Since that happened the towers were ignoring my request for an IP. He said the phone is either setup for Wimax or LTE but not for both. 0_o So I asked him how to setup the phone for LTE and he said "there is no need yet since LTE is not open to the public, but only in the testing phase" So I asked... exactly "So can I call back and have my phone switched from Wimax to LTE when LTE is opened up to the public in Houston?" He said "Yes"?!?!?!?!
What does that mean??? He knows all about my phone and what it can do so why did he say that?
Also he mentioned that this seems to be happening to all Epic 4G Touch phones since they are listed in the Sprint system as LTE capable. So that is why people in Q1/Q2 LTE area's are having the issue.
Call sprint and get the 4G people on the phone to reprop your phone from LTE channel back to Wimax.
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Caulkins E4GT GB 2.9.2 bare ROM, FB27 modem, rogue gunslinger kernel on one EPIC beast of a phone.

No.
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No they are not. Do not always listen to a Sprint employee 90% of them are flat out stupid. We will not have LTE support. There IS however a SPH-L710 that passed WiFi certs a few weeks back. My guess is that it's the SGS2 but with LTE support and WiMax removed.

Asking a Sprint call center employee to explain or elaborate on a technical detail of their network is like asking a McDonalds counter person to explain how they raised their cows.
They'll give you their 4th grade education mixed with overheard and misunderstood watercooler rumor as fact. "Could you turn off your phone, and pull out the battery? Now restart it! See its fixed, just like our network! Thanks for calling Sprint! Is there anything I can do for you?"***
Oh, btw, if for some reason our phones were capable, it would have been a selling point since release. So, sadly, no.
And if you google it, there are some people talking about tear-downs, and the visible chips, and how those chips are not LTE capable....
(*** btw, not a Sprint hater. Or even a Sprint employee hater. just a call-center, script-reading, poor misinformed souls hater. please don't attempt to answer my question if you don't actually know the answer just to boost your solution resolution percentages)
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ahoyt05 said:
I was told by a sprint employee they were, then here that they're not.
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In my limited dealings with sprint cs, they aren't the brightest.
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"So can I call back and have my phone switched from Wimax to LTE when LTE is opened up to the public in Houston?" He said "Yes"?!?!?!?!
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When it's worded that way, the guy probably thought he was asking if he can switch to an LTE capable phone. If current Wimax phones only needed a firmware update to work on LTE, Sprint would be doing some good PR work so everyone knew it.

There's a reason the G-Nex is advertised as "Sprints first LTE phone"
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I LOL'ed when I saw that hahaha
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ydoucare said:
When it's worded that way, the guy probably thought he was asking if he can switch to an LTE capable phone. If current Wimax phones only needed a firmware update to work on LTE, Sprint would be doing some good PR work so everyone knew it.
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I agree I assumed he was implying that as well.
It is true though that these phones are not LTE capable.
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The only way this phone is going to get you anywhere near lte is if it breaks and asurion runs out of replacements

Somewhat true
I will look for the Doc about this,but I did read some investor fact sheets for sprint transfer to LTE. The big selling point for big investors to put money into sprints LTE was a wider spectrum that would include the bands needed for wimax phones to receive 4g in a sprint LTE only area.
They use a similar system in France, China and other countries where the gov stepped in and funded a super fast wireless broadband system. Are phones would still not be able to roam on LTE but on Sprints network we would still benefit from LTE.

sprint op are dumb. You need to have an LTE chip for that feature

MvDef said:
I will look for the Doc about this,but I did read some investor fact sheets for sprint transfer to LTE. The big selling point for big investors to put money into sprints LTE was a wider spectrum that would include the bands needed for wimax phones to receive 4g in a sprint LTE only area.
They use a similar system in France, China and other countries where the gov stepped in and funded a super fast wireless broadband system. Are phones would still not be able to roam on LTE but on Sprints network we would still benefit from LTE.
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Would that benefit not come from users going to LTE and getting off (for the most part) of the 3G however. If Sprint is in fact doing things somewhat like Verizon is most 3G data is being offloaded (iirc) to the LTE band which frees up 3G.

cidica said:
Would that benefit not come from users going to LTE and getting off (for the most part) of the 3G however. If Sprint is in fact doing things somewhat like Verizon is most 3G data is being offloaded (iirc) to the LTE band which frees up 3G.
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The way you put it makes it to easy. next time I'm not going ramble on and on.....
Hahaaa

yang704 said:
sprint op are dumb. You need to have an LTE chip for that feature
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Also, having a processor that supports LTE wouldn't hurt.
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T-Mobile is merging with MetroPCS!!

Well, turns out that rumors of a MetroPCS and T-Mobile merger weren't completely off base. While we wouldn't expect Deutsche Telekom to announce the sale of its US property any time soon, the German giant has confirmed that its holding talks with America's sixth largest mobile operator to combine the two networks. The prospective deal would involve combining the two into a single entity, with Deutsche Telekom as the majority shareholder. Of course there are significant obstacles in the way, including divergent network technologies and distinctly different marketing strategies. This is, of course, just the latest scene in the ongoing piece of corporate theater that almost saw the struggling magenta carrier absorbed by AT&T. We'll of course be following closely to see if such a move would sit a little better with government regulators. The complete statement from Deutsche Telekom confirming the talks is after the break.
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-Engadget
http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/02/deutsche-telekom-mulling-t-mobile-metropcs-marriage/
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-...-said-to-near-deal-with-metropcs-in-u-s-.html
Thoughts???

From Bloomberg
T-Mobile USA, with 33.2 million customers at the end of June, or a third of each of market leaders Verizon Wireless and AT&T, is seeking to stem client losses it has suffered partly because it doesn’t have the rights to sell Apple Inc. (AAPL)’s iPhone.
A combination with Richardson, Texas-based MetroPCS would give T-Mobile USA, with its headquarters in Bellevue, Washington, an additional 9.3 million prepaid customers.
T-Mobile USA, the fourth-largest U.S. carrier, has lost 2.76 million contract customers, or more than 10 percent of its subscriber base, in the eight quarters through June.
Shares of MetroPCS were up 18 percent at $13.54 as of 12:32 p.m. in New York, giving the company a market value of $4.9 billion. Deutsche Telekom closed 1.3 percent higher on the Frankfurt exchange, after surging as much as 4.4 percent. The former German phone monopoly has a market capitalization of 42.1 billion euros ($54.5 billion). Sprint Nextel slumped as much as 7.1 percent in New York.

They gonna merge for 1 year thats what my boss told me ....

Ironically I had JUST heard at work today from someone that late October MetroPCS would be selling the SGS3. I figured he had no idea what he was talking about. About 30 minutes later, I saw this posted on Facebook by Androidandme.
Pretty interesting.

uoY_redruM said:
Ironically I had JUST heard at work today from someone that late October MetroPCS would be selling the SGS3. I figured he had no idea what he was talking about. About 30 minutes later, I saw this posted on Facebook by Androidandme.
Pretty interesting.
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Check their website, they're giving one away. It's on the front page.
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Might explain why the MetroPCS store near my location closed! Drove by saw their sigh was upside down and saw that the store was gutted out!

uoY_redruM said:
Ironically I had JUST heard at work today from someone that late October MetroPCS would be selling the SGS3. I figured he had no idea what he was talking about. About 30 minutes later, I saw this posted on Facebook by Androidandme.
Pretty interesting.
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Couple of weeks ago my boss had a meeting regarding about the GS3 LTE they gonna relase it somewhere before the year is over ...

Makes sense for T-Mobile for a couple of reasons.
1. MetroPCS has quite a bit of PCS (1900 MHz) and AWS (1700 MHz) spectrum, both which are needed by T-Mobile now, especially with the refarming and imminent LTE roll out.
2. MetroPCS' customers are all prepaid, so T-Mobile can eventually wean them off of CDMA phones.
3. MetroPCS has already begun rolling out their LTE network, so it will give T-Mobile a nice boost.
4. Gives T-Mobile about 10 million more customers, something they desperately needed.
Nice to see DT is trying their best to improve T-Mobile and make them competitive. Sad to say (being an Android fan), but the next logical step would be getting a deal done with Apple for the iPhone.

Might take a while. Antitrust laws can be degrimental to their plans

I don't think antitrust will be a problem, this is a lot different than the AT&T merger. The reasons pointed out ^^^^^ are great ones. I think the nearly 10m new users will help bring more services/quality. Looks like tmo is making the right moves, getting a new CEO and now this. It's definitely bad news for sprint/boost/virgin though. If all 5 carriers ended up under the tmo banner that could be pretty awesome :good: Consolidating to less carriers could be bad or good but I think the added competitive strength and compatibilities to take on Verizon and AT&T would be good in the long run.
News like this always excites me because it shows tmo is making big moves. This is much better than them being acquired by some evil giant :laugh:

Mergers always bring higher priceslower competition. Nothing to cheer up.

It is a done deal
They are merging

DONE....
http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/03/deutsche-telekom-and-metropcs-boards-approve-t-mobile-merger/

Both companies have approved a deal. They move fast
I think this move will definitely help with the push for LTE so I'm happy.

I am really glad since I love in a Tmobile and metro PCs area
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http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/articles/t-mobile-metropcs-combine

As long as they keep Carly!
I love T-Mobile!

Thank god the name will stay as T-Mobile and nothing something stupid like MetroMobile.

ScottBroker said:
They are merging
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You mean they did already. Money paid and working on implementation of both networks as we speak. For those excited for LTE you got your wish it just depends on when their done setting it in stone, they are already testing in 5 states one of which it Texas.
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Some nice slides about how this will improve T-Mobile:
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T-mobile lied to me

I have been with T-Mobile in Bloomington, IL for over 7 years now. The only thing I have ever complained about is data speeds in my area. So, when I read the following press release from T-Mobile last year, I was super excited.
http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/articles/new-4g-markets-nov2011
In that release dated Nov 16th 2011, it says
"T-Mobile 4G markets where HPSA+ 42 service is launching today:
Bend, Medford and Corvallis, Ore.; Benton Harbor, Mich.; Bloomington, Champaign–Urbana and Springfield, Ill.; Columbus, Ga.; Hagerstown, Md.; Montgomery, Ala; Yuba City, Calif."
So, I have not seen a difference in speeds at all over the past year with the following phones, HTC Senseation, Galaxy Nexus GSM, HTC One S and the Galaxy S3.
I have never gotten anything above 3Mb anywhere in town. Now, when I call T-Mobile to inquire about my slow speeds, they tell me only 3G is offered in my area and that the speeds I am getting are consistent with there network. FYI my status tells me that my Mobile Network Type is HSPAP:15
Attached is a screenshot of my typical speeds. Am I getting ripped off on data speeds?
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Guess you better switch to Verizon.

Id love to see your speeds. Im on edge.
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Could it be that half of Bloomington is covered but the other half isn't, and you're in the bad half?

I would call customer service and politely ask to speak to tech support. Let them know your issue and ask to speak to a supervisor. When the supervisor gets on the phone tell them you want this to keep getting escalated until you get an answer.
I had a similar problem and it took two weeks to finally get anywhere.

Jaxidian said:
Could it be that half of Bloomington is covered but the other half isn't, and you're in the bad half?
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I have though the same thing, but Bloomington is a pretty small city and I have driven all over town doing speed test in the past. Plus, when I have called them, I am told that there is no 4G anywhere close to me. Does that make sense if my network type is HSPAP:15?

Your speeds are up to par with what I get. Hell they're better. I would say everything is normal. T-Mobile has very weird and spotty service. I'm hoping the reframing of the towers will help.
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Honestly you shouldnt be seeing much of a difference from people downloading at 10 Mbps... you're still downloading at 100 KB/s with 1 Mbps....

Chicago281 said:
I would call customer service and politely ask to speak to tech support. Let them know your issue and ask to speak to a supervisor. When the supervisor gets on the phone tell them you want this to keep getting escalated until you get an answer.
I had a similar problem and it took two weeks to finally get anywhere.
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Your problem was completely different. You had towers down in your area.
OP, you need to realize that every single phone you listed aside from the One S and S3 are NOT capable of HSPA+42. So that is your first problem. The second problem is that wherever you are in Bloomington, an HSPA+42 tower does not reach you. Coverage isn't always the best. I'm a five minute walk from Wrigley Field and a five minute drive to downtown Chicago and I only get 7-8mbps. I drive fifteen minutes west to where I went to high school, and I get speeds of 20-22mbps.
Third, HSPA+42 speeds are THEORETICAL. You can THEORETICALLY have speeds that fast. You aren't guaranteed to.
Also, HSPA+42 is still 3G.
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It looks like you encountered massive traffic or the backhaul is not upgraded.

I had the same problem. I kept upgrading phones, buying them full price so I didn't have to renew my contract but I just kept switching my old SIM card into my new phones. When I switched to the Sensation I called T-Mobile about my slow speeds and they told me I had to upgrade to a "4G SIM card" and that worked. I would say that could be your problem but being that you now have the S3 and it has the micro SIM card then maybe they didn't upgrade your area yet.

That sucks dude...I'm out in Orlando, FL and I usually get about 10-15mbps almost anywhere...
At home I get +15mbps every time...
I attached a photo with the difference of my WiFi at home and my HSPA+42 at home. These were after a ROM change so I only have 5.
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Do you notice the same speeds on other speed tests or super sluggish browsing?
It's possible to imagine that the nearest and even lowest pingable server is simple not responsive to your (up/down)link. I usually compare to freespeedtest.com and even grab files from local servers.
Also you server's routing table could be weird.
If not, I'm inclined to believe that it is an overhead problem.
Go to the phone dialer (on stock) and try doing
*#197328640#*
1:UMTS
1ebug Screen
1:Basic Information
And check the bottom item lines. You should see some connection information about your service. Can you list what you have?
Also, jic check the Band at the top and make sure it says 4. Possibly could be defaulting to 1900 experimental.

I feel a little silly, just found out about sprints site.

So after years of being curious as to where the towers where for my sprint service, but never curious enough to actually try to find it, after reviewing my sprint bill I saw the link on the sprint page about service issue and location of towers.
I thought you guys may find this site useful. Those of you on sprint and having network issue.
https://network.sprint.com/search/10035/

Mship said:
So after years of being curious as to where the towers where for my sprint service, but never curious enough to actually try to find it, after reviewing my sprint bill I saw the link on the sprint page about service issue and location of towers.
I thought you guys may find this site useful. Those of you on sprint and having network issue.
https://network.sprint.com/search/10035/
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Yea do 84010. It's ****in retarded where I am at. I am in the mountain more pretty far from the towers.

thing lies dont even bother with it

Dreamlogix said:
thing lies dont even bother with it
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After reading what you wrote I couldn't resist and check the site. I was getting 10 meg download before they completed their capacity upgrade and data speed up grade. Now my 4g speed has dropped to 700K. Tower is 1/4 mile from my house. Thanks sprint :banghead::banghead:
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told u their coverage maps show that i have 4g coverage guess what no 4g coverage untill the main street a mile or 3 away
oneword
falseadvertising
lol not really

There's actually a website out there that shows every single tower out there (or the majority of it) including location, owner, etc.
Can't be pressed to find it but it's out there and if you find it then you can check around you for any towers. It's interesting seeing how much towers from multiple carriers are spread out around your area.

Mship said:
So after years of being curious as to where the towers where for my sprint service, but never curious enough to actually try to find it, after reviewing my sprint bill I saw the link on the sprint page about service issue and location of towers.
I thought you guys may find this site useful. Those of you on sprint and having network issue.
https://network.sprint.com/search/10035/
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Holy ****! You have a load of towers in your area.

Mship said:
So after years of being curious as to where the towers where for my sprint service, but never curious enough to actually try to find it, after reviewing my sprint bill I saw the link on the sprint page about service issue and location of towers.
I thought you guys may find this site useful. Those of you on sprint and having network issue.
https://network.sprint.com/search/10035/
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Chalk up another one to your group of not aware people. I knew the coverage map but not this tower locator. Pretty helpful to be able to verify the drop zones of Sprint. So helpful I'm going to put a bookmark on my home screen to ease my frustration. Unlimited data takes the pain off the bite whenever my phone isn't working because of data loss.

Neat, thanks for this didn't know about it. My service blows :thumbdown: check out 97501
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My house is just a bit North of the center of that map. I get 6 bars, but cap out at 20KB/S.
Usually I get 6 or less. Thank God for wifi.

Thanks for sharing. I got two towers about less than 1 mile away. Lol. I get 4-6 bars with.....
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Old result list, but these were taken with 6 bars in the center of those 3 towers on the map.

Ravaged Pheonix said:
Old result list, but these were taken with 6 bars in the center of those 3 towers on the map.
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That's is sad Phoenix .
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That's is sad Phoenix .
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Ironically, those were typical speeds in Phoenix until recently.
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Folks - read the legend carefully. It appears that map only shows towers that are, or will be upgraded.
If you switch views to 'show coverage area' you end up with Sprints 'optimistic color map showing coverage just about everywhere (eg a lie); yet even that map chooses to indicate some new and future towers.
In summary, I don't think there's a view that comprehensively shows all towers, let alone distinguishing which towers have 4G coverage.
If I'm missing something or someone knows of an alternative site, please let me know.
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I somehow can connect to 4g in my area, even though sprint says there is no 4g in my area. 12084

Mine is 78109 however, what is shows and what I get are two totally different things, I should be rocking but half the time my 3G is faster and more reliable than my 4G. I know they are in the proccess of removing a lot of the WiMax in my area and replacing them with LTE.

This can't include any other company's towers. I live in 48189, and get pretty good service 2-3 bars (not great, but servicable) , but my brother lives in 48350 and gets garbage, but has more towers that are closer, and has only 0-1 bars.

If you are in a non deployed market and get wimax then you're connecting to a protection Site. These are just there to fulfill fcc build out requirements and will not be upgraded like most wimax sites
As of now. Clear wire is reportedly upgrading wimax Site backends to support tdlte. If you get wimax in a launched market then you'll probably get Clear wire tdlte.
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look at it

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/26/business/sprint-posts-a-big-loss-on-decline-in-subscribers.html
interestingforsome well at least to me

Not important nor relevant. What matters is the losses come from Nextel customers moving on. The more the merrier. Nextel iden network is the cause of most of sprints woe. The less they need to financially support that old legacy network, the more they can spend on network vision upgrades.
What you should be looking at is that they have an increase in postpaid customers once again. Up to 2.3 million postpaid and 800k prepaid while Nextel iden lost 1.3 million with 3.1 million left.
Last year they had around 46 million subscribers and now they have almost 53 million.
All in all, it's not bad. Just sprint spending alll they can on network vision. Also they did not take into account soft banks 2.7 billion n USD cash infusion yet.
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lilotimz said:
Not important nor relevant. What matters is the losses come from Nextel customers moving on. The more the merrier. Nextel iden network is the cause of most of sprints woe. The less they need to financially support that old legacy network, the more they can spend on network vision upgrades.
What you should be looking at is that they have an increase in postpaid customers once again. Up to 2.3 million postpaid and 800k prepaid while Nextel iden lost 1.3 million with 3.1 million left.
Last year they had around 46 million subscribers and now they have almost 53 million.
All in all, it's not bad. Just sprint spending alll they can on network vision. Also they did not take into account soft banks 2.7 billion n USD cash infusion yet.
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to imply that it's not important and not bad in the same reply is asinine
large opperating loss for two years this year greatly bigger is important especially effects network vision upgrades and based on your comment you obviously haven't read the article I posted

May I point you here
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/2458-sprint-3rd-quarter-results/page__st__20
where the 3rd quarter results have been discussed and also to these websites where they give some analysis of sprints situation.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57540389-94/sprint-ceo-customer-losses-arent-as-scary-as-they-look/
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http://www.fiercewireless.com/story...extel-shutdown-looms/2012-10-25#ixzz2AKsKYNsH
Also, Sprint has been operating on losses for literally years. Network vision upgrades are already planned and is ramping up regardless of debt and or losses. In fact, to counter the point about the effects on network vision deployment. Some 3rd round markets (jan-june 2013) markets have already begun deployment way ahead of schedule (http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...ersey-and-delaware-markets-ahead-of-schedule/) while many others are being completely shaken up thanks to the SoftBank deal. Then there is the $2.7 billion cash infusion from SoftBank and the nearly $6 bill in cash and assets that sprint owns.

lilotimz said:
May I point you here
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/2458-sprint-3rd-quarter-results/page__st__20
where the 3rd quarter results have been discussed and also to these websites where they give some analysis of sprints situation.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57540389-94/sprint-ceo-customer-losses-arent-as-scary-as-they-look/
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http://www.fiercewireless.com/story...extel-shutdown-looms/2012-10-25#ixzz2AKsKYNsH
Also, Sprint has been operating on losses for literally years. Network vision upgrades are already planned and is ramping up regardless of debt and or losses. In fact, to counter the point about the effects on network vision deployment. Some 3rd round markets (jan-june 2013) markets have already begun deployment way ahead of schedule (http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...ersey-and-delaware-markets-ahead-of-schedule/). Then there is the $2.7 billion cash infusion from SoftBank and the nearly $6 bill in cash and assets that sprint owns.
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Not to mention sprint has to kill off iden subscribers to reclaim the used spectrum to complete the whole of the NV rollout.
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lilotimz said:
May I point you here
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/2458-sprint-3rd-quarter-results/page__st__20
where the 3rd quarter results have been discussed and also to these websites where they give some analysis of sprints situation.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57540389-94/sprint-ceo-customer-losses-arent-as-scary-as-they-look/
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http://www.fiercewireless.com/story...extel-shutdown-looms/2012-10-25#ixzz2AKsKYNsH
Also, Sprint has been operating on losses for literally years. Network vision upgrades are already planned and is ramping up regardless of debt and or losses. In fact, to counter the point about the effects on network vision deployment. Some 3rd round markets (jan-june 2013) markets have already begun deployment way ahead of schedule (http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...ersey-and-delaware-markets-ahead-of-schedule/) while many others are being completely shaken up thanks to the SoftBank deal. Then there is the $2.7 billion cash infusion from SoftBank and the nearly $6 bill in cash and assets that sprint owns.
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the main point of the article is the fact it is not regaining Nextel customers and is not profitable

Dreamlogix said:
the main point of the article is the fact it is not regaining Nextel customers and is not profitable
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Which is not a major factor to sprint. The majority of the remaining Nextel customers are business ones who will have to make a choice between going to sprints network or another competitors. Most will take Vz or ATT anyways but it's always nice to retain some but not something to cry over. What matters most is the spectrum the Nextel's legacy iDen network holds, aka the 800 mhz band.
Who cares about short term money and subscriber losses, thanks to iDen, when you have the future in front of you. Get rid of iDen and regain that 800mhz spectrum block for NV 2.0 expansion and you'll be gaining millions upon millions of new customers with an unlimited LTE network on the 800mhz / 1900 mhz / CW 2.5ghz bands which can be one of the most/ if not the most advanced network in the US.

lilotimz said:
Which is not a major factor to sprint. The majority of the remaining Nextel customers are business ones who will have to make a choice between going to sprints network or another competitors. Most will take Vz or ATT anyways but it's always nice to retain some but not something to cry over. What matters most is the spectrum the Nextel's legacy iDen network holds, aka the 800 mhz band.
Who cares about short term money and subscriber losses, thanks to iDen, when you have the future in front of you. Get rid of iDen and regain that 800mhz spectrum block for NV 2.0 expansion and you'll be gaining millions upon millions of new customers with an unlimited LTE network on the 800mhz / 1900 mhz / CW 2.5ghz bands which can be one of the most/ if not the most advanced network in the US.
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doubt it . and none of thatmatters with out subscribers Sprint canblab all theywant but they never produce results

Dreamlogix said:
doubt it . and none of thatmatters with out subscribers Sprint canblab all theywant but they never produce results
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Right. That's why SoftBank (one of Japans biggest telecoms) brought a 70% (approx $20 billion USD) stake in Sprint. That's why they just gave Sprint a $2.7 billion dollar cash injection. Hesse along with Sprints management & Softbank is looking at the future. Temporary losses are meaningless when there are great plans to accomplish. Whereas people like you look at every quarter and year by year to form opinions on companies, people like Hesse and Son look at the next year, 5 years, 10 years. That's why Sprint has a good future ahead of them.

I like the discussion, but one thread about Sprint in general is enough. :silly: