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Galaxy Nexus no longer being released on the 9th in the US?

http://www.droid-life.com/2011/12/07/galaxy-nexus-no-longer-launching-on-december-9/
sigh... dropping the ball. They dont want this phone on their network.

if it doesnt launch friday ill be buying something else, i'm getting sick of using my cracked thunderbolt and even more sick of waiting

I don't think they ever officially stated a day. I've thought for a while that they would release it with some clause that said no worry free guarantee exchanges for this device since a lot of people are planning on returning their razr or rezound too.. we'll see.
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I called Verizon yesterday, the 1800#, and they confirmed the 9th, so this has to be a change if true

I can't wait until this thing is released, not because I want to get it but so these threads will end.
Wait for it or buy online like most people did here

psufan5 said:
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/12/07/galaxy-nexus-no-longer-launching-on-december-9/
sigh... dropping the ball. They dont want this phone on their network.
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Take a look through this forum. I think VZ would have to iron out all these issues before putting it up for sale. I doubt VZ is going to have thier tech support saying " oh you can just download this app to fix that issue". It's going to have to work 99%, or people will just bring it back in and swap phones. There really isn't anything so magnetic about this phone that will make a regular user say they can't part with it. Imagine 50,000 used phones, cases, screen protectors, cradles etc. I can understand a few issues with a new device, but it looks like there are quite a few.
So I guess we will just wait for the 9th and see.

this is what i know verizon has a **** load of iphone and razrs! wouldn't you try and get the most out of your inventory? i wouldn't want to price cut just to sell if i didn't have to, or at least prolong a long as possible

Verizon sucks. that's why I left them after 10+ years. They are like the Apple of cell carriers. Need to control every aspect.
So now they aren't releasing the Gnex cause their 4G LTE is crapping the bed... Seems their LTE service has all kinds of issues with each new phone that is released to it.

Luxferro said:
Verizon sucks. that's why I left them after 10+ years. They are like the Apple of cell carriers. Need to control every aspect.
So now they aren't releasing the Gnex cause their 4G LTE is crapping the bed... Seems their LTE service has all kinds of issues with each new phone that is released to it.
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They may control every aspect, but it sure does pay off for them and their subscribers, doesn't it?
Consumer Reports: Verizon has highest satisfaction rate among major US carriers, AT&T is lowest

I'm pissed!!! I'm shipping out my G2x Friday and thus wont have a phone until they get off their ass.
The phones are sitting in their stores. Its a little too late.
Verizon usually releases phones on Fridays? So of it misses this Friday, it won't be available until next Friday?
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV

randypurcz said:
Take a look through this forum. I think VZ would have to iron out all these issues before putting it up for sale. I doubt VZ is going to have thier tech support saying " oh you can just download this app to fix that issue". It's going to have to work 99%, or people will just bring it back in and swap phones. There really isn't anything so magnetic about this phone that will make a regular user say they can't part with it. Imagine 50,000 used phones, cases, screen protectors, cradles etc. I can understand a few issues with a new device, but it looks like there are quite a few.
So I guess we will just wait for the 9th and see.
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Do you seriously think Verizon will iron out anything?
Have you used a droid bionic? The phone is total garbage, riddled with bugs, and had plenty of Verizon and Motorola "testing time."
They will release it eventually and it will be full of plenty of bugs they missed. Who knows what the hell they're doing.

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They may control every aspect, but it sure does pay off for them and their subscribers, doesn't it?
Consumer Reports: Verizon has highest satisfaction rate among major US carriers, AT&T is lowest
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Well I will agree on one thing. Their cell reception is the best.
But I can't deal with their arrogance, and pricing. At the time the OG Droid launched (I got mine on first day), they said they were changing their style... going to be more open with regard to their phones. After the OG Droid was a huge success for both Verizon and Android, they pretty much went back to their old ways.
Now they are releasing their 2nd pure google phone. And they are dragging their feet with the release. Probably making google changed certain aspects of it, making it more closed then the GSM version.

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Well I will agree on one thing. Their cell reception is the best.
But I can't deal with their arrogance, and pricing. At the time the OG Droid launched (I got mine on first day), they said they were changing their style... going to be more open with regard to their phones. After the OG Droid was a huge success for both Verizon and Android, they pretty much went back to their old ways.
Now they are releasing their 2nd pure google phone. And they are dragging their feet with the release. Probably making google changed certain aspects of it, making it more closed then the GSM version.
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I'll agree that the pricing is outrageous, but until someone with an equal or better network (see: competition) comes along, Verizon will be the status quo as far as high quality networks are concerned.
I don't think the latest delay has anything to do with the Nexus as much as it has to do with the overall network from a QoS standpoint. As a network technician myself, I can tell you that the issues being described with LTE SIM Card Authentication warrant a "freeze" until the problem is rectified. Why introduce a large amount of new devices onto the network without resolving the problem first?

Was just in a Verizon store buying a case for my GSM nexus. Guy said they had the phones in store but got an email a couple hours ago that it was no longer being released on Friday. Didn't have any details but seems like the article posted was true.
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anyone know of any on-going discussion groups who are following the LTE issue?

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anyone know of any on-going discussion groups who are following the LTE issue?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=104418010

Funny I went looking for release dates. Mondays and Thursdays seem pretty common for Verizon. Also funny is the original 11/21 release date (I'm sure it was even earlier then that).
You know I've been on both sides. Push the release date until it's ready and people complain. Release the phone before its ready and people complain. Coming from a LG G2x, I can honestly say releasing the phone before it was ready was good for me but not for the population as a whole. The negative feedback it received as a "faulty device" forever scarred its name.

eallan said:
Do you seriously think Verizon will iron out anything?
Have you used a droid bionic? The phone is total garbage, riddled with bugs, and had plenty of Verizon and Motorola "testing time."
They will release it eventually and it will be full of plenty of bugs they missed. Who knows what the hell they're doing.
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Motorola isn't exactly known for making phones that aren't riddled with bugs.....
This sounds more like something with Verizon's LTE network and not something to do specifically with the phones themselves.

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=104418010
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thanks!
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termleech said:
Was just in a Verizon store buying a case for my GSM nexus. Guy said they had the phones in store but got an email a couple hours ago that it was no longer being released on Friday. Didn't have any details but seems like the article posted was true.
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Sigh... its pointless waiting for this phone.

Verge Article on Samsung Updates

If Samsung doesn't care about customers, how can it hope to keep them? | The Verge
The Galaxy S is only a year old and already abandoned. I am going with the fruit phone next time, at least I know apple will update my phone for years after the sale. And real updates, not bug fixes.
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kingsway8605 said:
If Samsung doesn't care about customers, how can it hope to keep them? | The Verge
The Galaxy S is only a year old and already abandoned. I am going with the fruit phone next time, at least I know apple will update my phone for years after the sale. And real updates, not bug fixes.
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We need lots of more articles like these..Will be putting the link on Twiter and Facebook...Just like CIQ

Straight to an iPhone really? Why not just get an HTC or Motorola or LG next time?
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Straight to an iPhone really? Why not just get an HTC or Motorola or LG next time?
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They are only slightly better than Samsung.
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kingsway8605 said:
If Samsung doesn't care about customers, how can it hope to keep them? | The Verge
The Galaxy S is only a year old and already abandoned. I am going with the fruit phone next time, at least I know apple will update my phone for years after the sale. And real updates, not bug fixes.
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Go get your iphone then.
If you have the mindset that allows one piece of sensationalist journalism to sway you that much, then that's probably just the phone for you.
You see, the thing is:
The author of the article in the OP is doing it wrong:
He completely glosses over the idea that Samsung actually has this right, for the average user:
The Galaxy S DOESN'T have the RAM or the resources to properly run ICS.
Why in the world would Samsung want to push an update to a device that it's just going to run poorly on? (ESPECIALLY to a device with that many millions of users).
Actually, I'm a little disappointed in The Verge for allowing such an awfully-written article to be posted, as far as the one-sidedness of it goes. They've become one of my favorite places on the web to go to for my tech news, but it's definitely NOT because of articles like this.
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mazook98 said:
Go get your iphone then.
If you have the mindset that allows one piece of sensationalist journalism to sway you that much, then that's probably just the phone for you.
You see, the thing is:
The author of the article in the OP is doing it wrong:
He completely glosses over the idea that Samsung actually has this right, for the average user:
The Galaxy S DOESN'T have the RAM or the resources to properly run ICS.
Why in the world would Samsung want to push an update to a device that it's just going to run poorly on? (ESPECIALLY to a device with that many millions of users).
Actually, I'm a little disappointed in The Verge for allowing such an awfully-written article to be posted, as far as the one-sidedness of it goes. They've become one of my favorite places on the web to go to for my tech news, but it's definitely NOT because of articles like this.
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The Galaxy S has the same specs as the nexus s. And why are you so offended that I am going with an iPhone lol. Is your life so empty that you feel the need to cheer for a corporation? I don't get fanboyism, never will. Samsung has screwed their customers repeatedly since the first gen of android devices, and people are starting to catch on.
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kingsway8605 said:
The Galaxy S has the same specs as the nexus s. And why are you so offended that I am going with an iPhone lol. Is your life so empty that you feel the need to cheer for a corporation? I don't get fanboyism, never will. Samsung has screwed their customers repeatedly since the first gen of android devices, and people are starting to catch on.
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They might have the same specs, but the Galaxy S comes with TouchWiz. The Nexus S doesn't. Difference explained?
Don't be surprised that the developer version of a phone gets the updates and the mass-sold consumer version with branding and skins does not, however inconvenient.
Apart from that, they have supported it for about 19 months now through 3 major releases, instead of their promise of 18 months and a minimum of 1 major release.

So he bought the phone with Eclair, it got an upgrade to Froyo and another upgrade to Gingerbread and he's *****ing that he wont get ICS?! The Galaxy S has already had TWO major OS updates, do people really expect these things to get every major update as long as they own the device? The sense of entitlement that some people seem to have is absolutely rediculous.
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meranto said:
They might have the same specs, but the Galaxy S comes with TouchWiz. The Nexus S doesn't. Difference explained?
Don't be surprised that the developer version of a phone gets the updates and the mass-sold consumer version with branding and skins does not, however inconvenient.
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Exactly, which is why I said I am going with the iPhone next time. That way I don't have to worry about it. I will just know I am going to get updates. Like I said, I. don't have allegiances to certain companies. I just go with the company that is going to treat me best, and right now, that company appears to be apple.
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kingsway8605 said:
The Galaxy S has the same specs as the nexus s. And why are you so offended that I am going with an iPhone lol. Is your life so empty that you feel the need to cheer for a corporation? I don't get fanboyism, never will. Samsung has screwed their customers repeatedly since the first gen of android devices, and people are starting to catch on.
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Fanboyism?
WTF.
Look at the facts, and maybe you'll understand...
(I'll take this slowly, but try to keep up.)
I know that the Galaxy S and the Nexus S have the same specs:
That's common knowledge.
But:
The Nexus S doesn't have to run Touchwiz, hence the update.
The Galaxy S would HAVE to run Touchwiz, so it would have to also be included in any update, because THAT'S WHAT 10+ MILLION AVERAGE USERS WOULD EXPECT TO SEE, THE SAME UI THEY HAD THE DAY BEFORE. (sorry for the Allcaps, but it's just frustrating to me that someone doesn't understand this.)
Touchwiz, in an update with ICS, would BARELY fit:
It might run, but users would quickly get low storage space messages, and memory-issue crashes.
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mazook98 said:
Fanboyism?
WTF.
Look at the facts, and maybe you'll understand...
(I'll take this slowly, but try to keep up.)
I know that the Galaxy S and the Nexus S have the same specs:
That's common knowledge.
But:
The Nexus S doesn't have to run Touchwiz, hence the update.
The Galaxy S would HAVE to run Touchwiz, so it would have to also be included in any update, because THAT'S WHAT 10+ MILLION AVERAGE USERS WOULD EXPECT TO SEE, THE SAME UI THEY HAD THE DAY BEFORE. (sorry for the Allcaps, but it's just frustrating to me that someone doesn't understand this.)
Touchwiz, in an update with ICS, would BARELY fit:
It might run, but users would quickly get low storage space messages, and memory-issue crashes.
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See post right before yours.
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kingsway8605 said:
Exactly, which is why I said I am going with the iPhone next time. That way I don't have to worry about it. I will just know I am going to get updates. Like I said, I. don't have allegiances to certain companies. I just go with the company that is going to treat me best, and right now, that company appears to be apple.
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They treat you best?
How, by giving you updates that your phone can handle?
You applaud them for that, yet you think it's a bad thing when a company (Samsung) wouldn't send an update to a device that COULDN'T properly handle one?
Apple's way around the issue is to rarely update their hardware, so that it can handle any update they throw at it for 2+ years.
Samsung (and the major Android manufacturers in general) deals with it by continuously pushing the envelope by releasing cutting-edge hardware, and then updating software to the devices that can handle it.
Which would you rather have? 2 year old hardware, and last year's updates, or tomorrow's hardware and tomorrow's updates?
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So he bought the phone with Eclair, it got an upgrade to Froyo and another upgrade to Gingerbread and he's *****ing that he wont get ICS?! The Galaxy S has already had TWO major OS updates, do people really expect these things to get every major update as long as they own the device? The sense of entitlement that some people seem to have is absolutely rediculous.
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You are aware that the Galaxy S on att and tmo still have Froyo? And I didn't buy anything except the epic touch from Samsung. As I have said repeatedly, unlike some, I don't cheer for corporations when it comes to plastic with electrical components inside, I just go with the company that will treat me best, and from the looks of it, Apple appears to be that company with a record of providing almost 3 years of true os updates (bug fixes don't count). If you guys want to buy from a company that has demonstrated that it does not care about you after a sale, based solely on fanboyism, then that is your prerogative. I have no desire to argue with you over who the best phone company is because I have a life lol.
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See post right before yours.
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I did:
You're getting dumber and dumber as this goes on.
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kingsway8605 said:
Exactly, which is why I said I am going with the iPhone next time. That way I don't have to worry about it. I will just know I am going to get updates. Like I said, I. don't have allegiances to certain companies. I just go with the company that is going to treat me best, and right now, that company appears to be apple.
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Whatever tips your balance off course, for many it would be because of other things but at least this is honest reasoning.
Shouting that Samsung lied to costumers and mistreats them is just stupid and shows no understanding of market mechanisms, but displays tunnelvision instead.
I understand it sucks, having had an Omnia2 before my Galaxy S2, but it was known beforehand that the updatecycle would stop somewhere at the end of 2011, as it is to end at Q3/Q4-2012 for the Galaxy S2. By that time the same discussion will start, this time about the Galaxy Nexus, with the same stupid arguments, petitions and tears.

kingsway8605 said:
Apple appears to be that company with a record of providing almost 3 years of true os updates (bug fixes don't count).
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This is the crux of the whole thing:
I would never, in my worst "phone-geek" nightmare, dream of owning the same device for 3 years, I don't care which phone it was.
That's an eternity in terms of technological advances, and if that's what you're looking for: a phone that'll still be updated (software-wise) for 3 years, then an iphone is EXACTLY what you need.
I'd rather have a hole in my head than to be stuck with ANY phone for that long.
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kingsway8605 said:
You are aware that the Galaxy S on att and tmo still have Froyo? And I didn't buy anything except the epic touch from Samsung. As I have said repeatedly, unlike some, I don't cheer for corporations when it comes to plastic with electrical components inside, I just go with the company that will treat me best, and from the looks of it, Apple appears to be that company with a record of providing almost 3 years of true os updates (bug fixes don't count). If you guys want to buy from a company that has demonstrated that it does not care about you after a sale, based solely on fanboyism, then that is your prerogative. I have no desire to argue with you over who the best phone company is because I have a life lol.
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If Samsung didn't honestly care for it's customers people would have never gotten an update at all.
It's entertaining that you're white knighting yourself with the supposed honor of refusing to buy Sansung devices because of them no longer supporting year-old hardware.
Things move fast, the employees that make the updates at Samsung don't have any obligation to continue to work on old hardware.
The Evo Shift isn't getting ICS and it released after the Galaxy S line. Is HTC suddenly not carrying for its customers?
Why, exactly do you care?
Your device WILL get ICS and the chances are you are rooted and even if it didn't [get ICS] some developer(s) is/are working on it.
Hell, I'm sure that rooted Galaxy S users will get it.
Enjoy getting gimped updates with features cut out once your apple device is no longer the top-of-their-line.
There is absolutely no reason for people with a device that old to expect ICS via their manufacturer.
You're basically saying that Samsung should update phones that it shouldn't really be on to it, providing a lackluster User experience.
The users would get all sorts of issues with it and no amount of features would change the fact that some of the issues would push that customer away from that manufacturer.
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So sorry that Android's updates are taking much bigger steps than IOS' updates.

I believe the thing that the OP doesn't take into account is that even apple phones usually become to slow for the latest and greatest iOS version after 18 months to 2 years. In which case, you are back at square one if you had bought any number of android phones.
Regardless, 6 in one hand, half a dozen in the other.
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I just found out that my Commodore 64 does not support running Windows 7....
Damn it, I am pissed! Screw corporate america! Where's my tent, I'm going to "occupy" their headquarters!!

Worth dumping LTE for this?

I've been wanting the Galaxy Nexus since the announcement but never got around to getting it. I ended up getting a GS2 Skyrocket and have fallen in love with LTE.
Do you think it's worth dumping my skyrocket for the GN? What's the current state of ROM development?

I dumped the skyrocket but I don't live in lte market. And I don't load roms. Stock gnex ics > skyrocket touchwiz
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This is true, buuuut the skyrocket HD is coming out my friend. Id get that, keep it, try out the ics update on it whenever its released
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navymoss35 said:
This is true, buuuut the skyrocket HD is coming out my friend. Id get that, keep it, try out the ics update on it whenever its released
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Coming out in a few months
I kind of miss the stock Google experience.. once a new version of Android is announced, you're the first to get it Kinda wish the GN is $529 like the N1 was

No, LTE > ICS.
Of course you could do like me and switch to Verizon and have both.

Buff McBigstuff said:
No, LTE > ICS.
Of course you could do like me and switch to Verizon and have both.
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LTE has a huge battery drain.
GSM variant of Galaxy Nexus has better battery life and less mAh

Lots of good roms. switch to verizon and get lte too. To be honest if verizon had a GSII I would think twice about my purchase. I love ICS but the camera on this phone drives me nuts. Plus I don't hate Touch Wiz.
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Buff McBigstuff said:
No, LTE > ICS.
Of course you could do like me and switch to Verizon and have both.
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For you, maybe. You can't make that blanket statement for everyone... And I'm sure OP is happy with AT&T (and/or locked in with a large ETF if he's got a Skyrocket).

havent experienced the sg2 myself so i doont know how good it is, but i got the nexus last saturday and i love it more and more everyday. AWESOME PHONE!

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LTE has a huge battery drain.
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Yeah but I get 40+ Mbps. Kinda like how Ferraris get terrible gas mileage because a V12 has huge gas drain.
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For you, maybe. You can't make that blanket statement for everyone... And I'm sure OP is happy with AT&T (and/or locked in with a large ETF if he's got a Skyrocket).
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OP asked what I think. I gave him my opinion.

If budget permits, I would say yes, go for the GN. But if I were you at a time like this, I would wait for MWC (Mobile World Congress) where Samsung is allegedly announcing the Galaxy S3 and see what they have to offer in that aspect.

I'm pretty much stuck to AT&T because I get a huge discount off my monthly bill through work
I totally forgot about the Galaxy S3.. hummm

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Yeah but I get 40+ Mbps.
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Willieumm said:
Wtf are you doing on your phone that would make it vital for you to get speeds higher than hspa+?
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Ummmm... Mobile Hot Spot! Verizon has yet to throttle me on 4G... I use atleast 12-15 GB's / month. That is where it pays off to have Verizon LTE and unlimited data...

Lol again, Verizon is not an option for me. I pay close to $100 a month right now for 4 lines + unlimited data on 3 lines. With Verizon, I'd be paying over $200

Honestly HSPA+ speed are good enough for me in a mobile device. I browse, stream a lot and speeds are good enough. Average around 5Mbps is good for me. Sure I will take lte if there is an option, but it's not a big deal. Finally it comes down personal choice, if you are teethering may be lte speeds are good but for normal usage no big deal.
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Buff McBigstuff said:
Yeah but I get 40+ Mbps. Kinda like how Ferraris get terrible gas mileage because a V12 has huge gas drain.
OP asked what I think. I gave him my opinion.
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Fair enough, but the only ones I've seen complaining about their Galaxy Nexus are the ones getting the US carrier-Nexuses. On overall GSM owners seems happier.
Which may or may not be relevant to OP, so it's worth getting out there.
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To OP: I don't have LTE, so I have no idea what I would be dumping, but this is my general take on the Galaxy Nexus (from another thread)
Seriously though: I think this phone is the best phone I've ever had. For those returning it, it probably wasn't.
This phone was hyped like nothing I have ever seen, and lots of people probably bought it on the wrong premises. Some people probably bought this phone thinking this would be the Android Jesus-device who would save the souls of Apple-users en-masse by its presence alone. A device which could slay iStore employees by simply taking it out of your pocket. A gadget so shiny, the sun would feel its competition. Etc.
To those people, this device probably didn't deliver. They probably returned it.
To me though this phone is a godsend. Not only is the HW pretty good, it is also 100% open. It's a device whose openness is unprecedented in other types of phones.
I can compile Android from source and flash on this device. Using open tools which I've also built from source. It's not just something I say that you "can" do. I've built the source and deployed on my phone. No hacking or closed drivers or protocols required. Why? Just because I can. It gives you a feeling of actual ownership which is hard to describe or match.
If I want to run nothing but stock but rooted, I can do that without any need to meddle deeply with the phone. In fact, if all I want is a custom recovery to do nandroid backups, I can do that without flashing or modifying the phone in any way.
How? It's easy. I can boot my phone off a boot-image (and hence recovery-image too) hosted outside the phone. I can boot my phone from code hosted outside it. No hacking required. Absolutely none.
This is what a Nexus device is all about. It's all fully open. It does what you ask it. Even if it is retarded. Even if it is singing the Hello Kitty theme song while in the bootloader. Because the device is open. It's yours. It's yours to do exactly what you want with it.
The openness of this thing is amazing. For me, there is absolutely no other phone I would consider. Others might land at some other choice and that is perfectly fine too.
People returning this phone are probably doing it because they followed internet-hype and didn't research what they were actually buying.
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If you think that sounds awesome, LTE is probably worth dumping. If you think "that sounds... like something I dont care about at all", then probably not.

Had the Verizon GN. Was surprised to find that I actually had 4g where I lived. Got ~35mbps down and ~7mbps up. With mild use, was finding it difficult to get the battery to last through the day.
Returned it, bought the unlocked GSM version, popped an at&t similar in, and now my battery lasts all day with almost twice as much use and 30% left at night. Pages load at roughly the same speed. Call quality is better (maybe just where I live, but the Verizon version was always a little "glitchy").
Just my experience with LTE and the nexus.
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I have both phones and love both, skyrocket gives me 2 days in one charge easily, gnex only about 10-14 hours with extended battery but love stock ics.
If you already have the skyrocket then stick with it, its a great phone, if you dont have neither, get the Gnex gsm.

For now, LTE is the future. I carry a spare battery if and when needed. Battery technology will always be playing catch up.

What happened to the Nexus?

This is sort of a rant, or whatever. I remember when I got into Android, if you wanted top of the line, and a phone that would have everything, you got a Nexus. The Nexus was built specifically for Google. Then the introduced the Nexus S. That is when I started to get disappointed with the Nexus. It came in three or four different models, specific to carriers. Now, I am even more appauled because they have started putting carrier stamps on them. I noticed the Sprint version as the Sprint logo on the back of it, and the Verizon version has their logo on it. It is almost seeming like "Nexus" is an OEM now. They release a Nexus on an annual basis, with different features specific to carriers, and now put the carrier name on them. That is the same thing Samsung did with the Galaxy S and the Galaxy S2. HTC did it with a couple of their dual core phones, and the Hero. I dont know, it just bothers me. I used to want a Nexus back in the day, but now it is just like another manufacturer releasing a phone at the begining of the year. Wait a few months and something better will be out.

shiftr182 said:
This is sort of a rant, or whatever. I remember when I got into Android, if you wanted top of the line, and a phone that would have everything, you got a Nexus. The Nexus was built specifically for Google. Then the introduced the Nexus S. That is when I started to get disappointed with the Nexus. It came in three or four different models, specific to carriers. Now, I am even more appauled because they have started putting carrier stamps on them. I noticed the Sprint version as the Sprint logo on the back of it, and the Verizon version has their logo on it. It is almost seeming like "Nexus" is an OEM now. They release a Nexus on an annual basis, with different features specific to carriers, and now put the carrier name on them. That is the same thing Samsung did with the Galaxy S and the Galaxy S2. HTC did it with a couple of their dual core phones, and the Hero. I dont know, it just bothers me. I used to want a Nexus back in the day, but now it is just like another manufacturer releasing a phone at the begining of the year. Wait a few months and something better will be out.
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That is how phones are going to be when the og nexus was out there were no top of the line phones now its just like computers and how amd and Intel fought it out ... that is the business
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Carrier stamp is no big deal, what is appalling is when the carrier (ahem Verizon) wants to put their bloat on a Nexus device.

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Carrier stamp is no big deal, what is appalling is when the carrier (ahem Verizon) wants to put their bloat on a Nexus device.
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Yet that part we can put some blame on Google for as well. I think going to VZN for the first GNexus was a bad idea (IMO)

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Yet that part we can put some blame on Google for as well. I think going to VZN for the first GNexus was a bad idea (IMO)
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Definitely. One would think they would be advertising the hell out of it but instead i just saw droid razr commercials. What a shame...
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Its funny because a mwc there will be probably 6 phones announced that will blow the galaxy nexus away ... but that is phones wait 3 months and your phone is far surpassed
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Its funny because a mwc there will be probably 6 phones announced that will blow the galaxy nexus away ... but that is phones wait 3 months and your phone is far surpassed
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Yep. Soon after mwc the sgs3 will be announced (april based on rumors) and the devices from mwc will be old news
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Definitely. One would think they would be advertising the hell out of it but instead i just saw droid razr commercials. What a shame...
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That I agree on. All I see is Moto devices being pushed and very little if ANYTHING at all about the Nexus. The fact that VZN alone held out on releasing it was pretty sad. I mean Seriously it was/should of been released here in the States first yet VZN wanted it "their" way and held off cause of Wallet? (granted there was prob more then just that) but all in all VZN screwed up the GNexus launch for the States.
I just hope that in the future Google remembers this and maybe even choses Sprint for the next Nexus device.

I remember whwn nexus one was released, it really pushed the envelope hardware wise, as well as software. Even without rooting it, I'd say it was faster than anything else out there for close to a year, till sgs. Even then, it still seemed snappier. Now though, galaxy nexus didn't really seem all that appealing before it was even released, some could argue for sgs2 being better in many aspects. And it is stuck on a carrier that's really not selling it, at a price that some of us find high. On a most expensive network. By the time Sprint gets a better version of it, nexus will be old news. Definitely not the way Google envisioned this device, considering it is supposed to be flagship
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This is especially relevant since the only version of the galaxy nexus supported by google as a "true" nexus device is the gsm version...
Both the cdma and LTE customers are at SOL, as far as the first shot upgrades go...
(Yeah, this means Sprint.)
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mazook98 said:
This is especially relevant since the only version of the galaxy nexus supported by google as a "true" nexus device is the gsm version...
Both the cdma and LTE customers are at SOL, as far as the first shot upgrades go...
(Yeah, this means Sprint.)
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eh...no one knows this as of yet. One reason the NS4G is late to the game for updates is the WiMax stuff (iirc) The GNexus won't have that it will be a LTE device so that "should" make it a bit better (again I'm kinda guessing here but it makes sense at least to me)

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eh...no one knows this as of yet. One reason the NS4G is late to the game for updates is the WiMax stuff (iirc) The GNexus won't have that it will be a LTE device so that "should" make it a bit better (again I'm kinda guessing here but it makes sense at least to me)
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Google announced this today.
(The Sprint Gnex isn't really a Nexus device, as far as users like us are concerned.)
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eao1991 said:
Definitely. One would think they would be advertising the hell out of it but instead i just saw droid razr commercials. What a shame...
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How is that droid razr? I heard its a super amoled LED screen.... Does it compare to ours?
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I am hoping Sprint is smart enough to beef up their version of the GN. Otherwise by the time it is released it will be looked at as a mid level device and practically irrelevant.
I am also surprised they have yet to gave any type of time frame for it's release. They must still be working on their tiered LTE data plans

Google needs to set their foot down and limit OEM's on how many device they can make in a year. They can still continue releasing their Nexus devices and force carriers to not change anything on them. Our phones will have a long shelf life and be easier to receive updates.

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Google needs to set their foot down and limit OEM's on how many device they can make in a year. They can still continue releasing their Nexus devices and force carriers to not change anything on them. Our phones will have a long shelf life and be easier to receive updates.
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Why would they do that and lose out on a ****load of money

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I am hoping Sprint is smart enough to beef up their version of the GN. Otherwise by the time it is released it will be looked at as a mid level device and practically irrelevant.
I am also surprised they have yet to gave any type of time frame for it's release. They must still be working on their tiered LTE data plans
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There are rumors of a better GN in the works. Hopefully it's for Sprint especially since the sprint version at CES was kept under wraps in terms of only allowing photos of the front of the device.
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There are rumors of a better GN in the works. Hopefully it's for Sprint especially since the sprint version at CES was kept under wraps in terms of only allowing photos of the front of the device.
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I have heard rumors that the "better GN" has different processors in it, supposedly its the newest version of the TI-OMAP. I also read an article on Engaget from someone who got to play with the Sprint version and they confirmed it was identical to the Verizon version (including the 1.2ghz processors), except for google wallet.
If there is in-fact a better Nexus in the making, I would think it stupid to release it as a Galaxy Nexus because it wouldnt even be the same phone.

I kind of feel bad for people upgrading and going with anything else other than sgs2. Most people will never pay full retail, so they get stuck with their device for 20 months. Do you see yourself using an evo 3d for that long?!
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I use my phones for about 3 months on average. I buy and sell on ebay/craigslist. They pay for themselves that way.

Keep unlimited data / verizon and get the Gnex now?

Are the new phones going to crush the gnex / performance wise?
I am sitting on a verizon grandfathered unlimited data plan right now.
Verizon is holding off on its new batch of uber phones until it sets up its tiered data plan, that also will void your unlimited data plan.
Will i be crying like a little baby when june rolls around and the new phones come out and possibly destroy the Gnex?
Or will the S3 and other phun phones be only a small step up in real world performance.
The Gnex is only $199 now on verizon and the extended 2100mah battery is 1/2 off at 24$ ..
Thinking of going the nexus route to keep my unlimited data for a few more years.
Thoughts ?
As you can tell by my sig, im sort of a phone whore.

The reason why many people choose the nexus line is because of the stock android experience. It will also have the largest rom and development support until probably the next nexus. It seems like if you realty want to keep unlimited data then you have to get the nexus. After researching thoroughly I'm sure you'll be more than satisfied.
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With mod use will I be able to make it through a day with the 2200mah battery?
thx for the info.

I personally don't see the newer phones coming at as that much of an upgrade where I would risk losing my unlimited data for.
I get about 24 hours on a charge with over 4 hours of screen time using the 2100mah battery. That's with moderate use and multiple email accounts and the weather widget syncing.

wow
if i could get anywhere near that then i would be very happy.
on my craptacular Droid charge i get about 10 hours with very light usage

Gnex is a nice phone I would grab it and salvage another year or two of unlimited....the new phones will be better....but not by much...especially US versions. On the other hand AOSP on the LTE Gnex is crippled by Verizon and still hasn't even received 4.0.4.....updates are apparently coming through Verizon which to me makes it hardly a "pure Google experience"....so much for the newest version first....sad really...
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Gnex is a nice phone I would grab it and salvage another year or two of unlimited....the new phones will be better....but not by much...especially US versions. On the other hand AOSP on the LTE Gnex is crippled by Verizon and still hasn't even received 4.0.4.....updates are apparently coming through Verizon which to me makes it hardly a "pure Google experience"....so much for the newest version first....sad really...
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At least they won't be installing Touchwiz in a future update... *cough* Samsung Tab *cough* <---- Yes I know it's a Nexus, so that wouldn't happen

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At least they won't be installing Touchwiz in a future update... *cough* Samsung Tab *cough* <---- Yes I know it's a Nexus, so that wouldn't happen
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Yeah I know..... Sad...... One less rom option. Well I guess if one look can hold you over.... you can choose between a Gnex and a iPhone...... Tough call.
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Hold off until the last minute. If something else cones around before the cut off date, whenever that will be announced, get it. If nothing new or better is available buy the gnex. After the data cap plan goes into effect you can still keep unlimited by not paying for phones on a new contract. Just buy them outright.... which will be expensive.
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tylerdurdin said:
Gnex is a nice phone I would grab it and salvage another year or two of unlimited....the new phones will be better....but not by much...especially US versions. On the other hand AOSP on the LTE Gnex is crippled by Verizon and still hasn't even received 4.0.4.....updates are apparently coming through Verizon which to me makes it hardly a "pure Google experience"....so much for the newest version first....sad really...
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How is it crippled on AOSP? I had IMM76D on it within hours of release. Same with IMM76I. I am guessing that you are referring to the missing proprietaries. Not really a crippling blow, more like a minor inconvenience.
Also, updates don't come from Verizon. Verizon just approves when Google can OTA them.

adrynalyne said:
How is it crippled on AOSP? I had IMM76D on it within hours of release. Same with IMM76I. I am guessing that you are referring to the missing proprietaries. Not really a crippling blow, more like a minor inconvenience.
Also, updates don't come from Verizon. Verizon just approves when Google can OTA them.
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At this point Verizon is selling Gnexs with 4.0.2.....bugs lag and all. CDMA Nexus is a joke.....not Googles fault but just the same....a fault. I don't see how sitting around waiting for a carrier to approve a update is any different than any other cellphone period. Nexus is supposed to be latest greatest....Verizon has made the Nexus like every other phone....to me that warrants choices. Every phone will be running AOKP so sitting around waiting seems a bit crippling when the ONLY thing you are getting from a Nexus at this point is AOSP.
The advantages the Gnex had on other devices are slowly dwindling away.....I still think it's a nice phone that's why I told him to get it. Maybe you feel its a inconvenience.....I feel its business as usual..... not a "pure Google experience" lol.
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At this point Verizon is selling Gnexs with 4.0.2.....bugs lag and all. CDMA Nexus is a joke.....not Googles fault but just the same....a fault. I don't see how sitting around waiting for a carrier to approve a update is any different than any other cellphone period. Nexus is supposed to be latest greatest....Verizon has made the Nexus like every other phone....to me that warrants choices. Every phone will be running AOKP so sitting around waiting seems a bit crippling when the ONLY thing you are getting from a Nexus at this point is AOSP.
The advantages the Gnex had on other devices are slowly dwindling away.....I still think it's a nice phone that's why I told him to get it. Maybe you feel its a inconvenience.....I feel its business as usual..... not a "pure Google experience" lol.
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True, regarding OTAs, but it is hardly AOSP crippled (so far). As long as US carriers like Sprint, ATT, and Verizon are in control, this is likely not going to change.
There are a lot of issues with OTAs on the Galaxy Nexus. Heck, there are some yakjuxx variants still on 4.0.1. I know I personally didn't buy it for quick stock updates. I have always felt that Android does not fit Verizon's business model. I felt that years ago, and I still think that is the case today.

Unless the GS3 is a winner to you... then no nothing else coming out on VZW will be better than the Galaxy Nexus.. unless you like the Galaxy Note aka "Journey" or the Razr HD that is rumor to be coming out..
But the Nexus will always be better later on this year when "Key Lime Pie" or w/e Google decides to name its next OS Version because those GS3'S and Razr's are going to take ages to get upgraded to 4.2 or 5.0 just like most phones now who is still on ICS.. Leaks will always leak out..
You can keep your unlimited data plan even when VZW change their plans.. you just going to need to buy your next phone full price.. no discounts no upgrades..
anything that will make you sign a new 2 year contract will take you out of the grandfather plan

I just did exactly what the OP is asking. I had the GNEX on release day but had massive signal issues. I went back to my Bionic and waited. Then I tried the gnex again, same issues. I went and got the Razor maxx, great battery life mediocore phone. I just jumped on the GNEX again and third times a charm. I love it. Im running Franco MS3 and AOKP and I get through the day and night no problem.

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I just did exactly what the OP is asking. I had the GNEX on release day but had massive signal issues. I went back to my Bionic and waited. Then I tried the gnex again, same issues. I went and got the Razor maxx, great battery life mediocore phone. I just jumped on the GNEX again and third times a charm. I love it. Im running Franco MS3 and AOKP and I get through the day and night no problem.
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Droid Razr makes me want to cut my wrist. Gnex is FAR superior to that gimmick. Good choice man....don't turn back to the darkside.
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Yah, darkside is right.... I left out that I had the iPhone 4 and 4s a few times also.....

eakrish said:
Yah, darkside is right.... I left out that I had the iPhone 4 and 4s a few times also.....
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:what:
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yah, I was thinking about leaving and jumping on the HTC one X w/ ATT.