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E4gt future proof

So I'm thinking of getting this phone with my soon-to-expire premier program upgrade (especially since it looks like we wont see galaxy nexus before the end of december), and I want to be sure this thing will stay satisfying for two years.
Primarily, I want to avoid issues the epic 4g has: limited (although what there is is extremely dedicated) dev support and lack of cm/miui that keeps the phone stuck at outdated os iterations (which is mostly sammy's fault anyway).
What im asking is, is this phone a dev darling and do they promise to love it for ever, even after samsung abandons it in 8 months?
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There is no such thing on the market. Once this phone stops getting Android updates, the community will have no choice but to dump it for the next newest. It'll probably be able to drive your car, have sex with your wife, and make banana pancakes. How will you be able to coerce a developer away from such a dream phone when all you have to offer him/her is a beat up old 2011 E4GT to work on? You just have to let nature take it's course. Buy the phone for what it does now or always ask that same question: "Should I wait for the next one or get this one now?"

which ROM makes Banana Pancakes?
Mine only makes Buttermilk.....

Premier program upgrade expires 12/31/12 you have a good year and two months to make a decision.

Trickee360 said:
So I'm thinking of getting this phone with my soon-to-expire premier program upgrade (especially since it looks like we wont see galaxy nexus before the end of december)
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Your Premier upgrade doesn't expire in December. You have all of 2012 to use it.
If you were thinking you could have gotten one additional 11-12mo upgrade cycle, that would have needed to be done by 10/1/2011.

When it comes to electronics, nothing is future proof!
The SGS2 is a great phone today and while it might not be the top of the line in a few months it will still be able to handle it's own.
There is one thing I am jealous of with the Galaxy Nexus, and that is the HD screen. If the SGS2 would have had an HD screen, it would be right up there with the GN. I do not count ICS because the SGS2 will eventually get it. If the GN only had a qhd screen I don't think I would care as much....Seems almost like qhd screens didn't stay around as the top dog for to long. Guess the lower end devices will be going qhd while top end goes 720p to compete.

The point is well taken that there's no such thing as a future-proofe phone. I should have qualified that I am asking if this phone appears likely to enjoy EVO or HD2-like developer love. I was spoiled with cm-support on the G1 and I want to recapture those possbilities with my next phone.
I was on the phone with Sprint for an hour and a half talking about my upgrade status and they repeatedly told me it would expire on Dec 31, 2011. I guess I'll call again and ask again. I don't know what to trust anymore. If I get another year I'll be extatic.
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The program itself ends 12/31/11 but you have until the end of next year to use your upgrade.

Just called Sprint to confirm my upgrade won't expire! Thanks so much for the heads-up, my XDA brothers XD
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I had to fight Sprint to get my last upgrade but they relented and gave it to me so now it's either ET4G or Galaxy Nexus if or whenever they get it.

sfhub said:
Your Premier upgrade doesn't expire in December. You have all of 2012 to use it.
If you were thinking you could have gotten one additional 11-12mo upgrade cycle, that would have needed to be done by 10/1/2011.
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I did not know that, i just checked and next September I have an upgrade available... cool.

worldwidepmp said:
I had to fight Sprint to get my last upgrade but they relented and gave it to me so now it's either ET4G or Galaxy Nexus if or whenever they get it.
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Honestly, i'd go with the ET4G, the Galaxy Nexus is waaaaaay overrated

G1-8701 said:
Honestly, i'd go with the ET4G, the Galaxy Nexus is waaaaaay overrated
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Add ICS and a 720P screen to our SGS2 and you have yourself a phone that is equal to or better then the GN. We will get ICS whether it be official or not, so that will really even the playing field. So our phone is future proof until you start seeing quad core phones come out and well as Sprint LTE phones. But I would say you are good for at least the next year to year and half with the SGS2.
When the specs for the SGS3 get dropped, I am betting that will be a game changer and Samsungs flagship phone, not the Nexus.

buggerritt said:
There is no such thing on the market. Once this phone stops getting Android updates, the community will have no choice but to dump it for the next newest. It'll probably be able to drive your car, have sex with your wife, and make banana pancakes. How will you be able to coerce a developer away from such a dream phone when all you have to offer him/her is a beat up old 2011 E4GT to work on? You just have to let nature take it's course. Buy the phone for what it does now or always ask that same question: "Should I wait for the next one or get this one now?"
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I hate you... Now I want Banana pancakes!

IMO, dual core SOCs and 1GB RAM are the major milestone for smartphones. Quad cores will improve benchmarks, but probably not much else. Cutting edge OS is what's important to me now, which the GN covers nicely
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Add ICS and a 720P screen to our SGS2 and you have yourself a phone that is equal to or better then the GN.
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Not quite. We don't have NFC or a barometer, either. The lack of NFC means we can't use Google Wallet or Beam... ever, and the barometer means slower GPS locks and we can't use any other aps that take advantage of it.
I don't quite understand why Sprint had Samsung remove the NFC chip... it's the only GS2 variant that doesn't have one, and aside from LTE, that's the newest feature everyone is jumping on lately.
This phone will have a lot of life in it, but it's not future proof.

The nexus has a cheap pentile display. Go with the epic touch you won't regret it. And it has a sa+ display!
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Trickee360 said:
I was spoiled with cm-support on the G1 and I want to recapture those possbilities with my next phone.
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I really enjoyed the support out there for my EVO 4G, and was a little disappointed at the lack of options out there right now for my shiney new E4GT (not complaining, stating a fact, back off flamers)
However, read through the forums for the other variations of the SGS2 and you can see it's out there for them. I just think Sprints baby is a little late to the party, but is going to get it's fair share of cake. Read through some of the Developer posts and there is news popping up fairly regularly about test builds of CM7 and MIUI...

I am getting closer and closer to getting this. I just know a week after I do the galaxy nexus will be announced for sprint.
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I'll be honest, this is my first android phone (epic touch 4g), but I have been tinkering with anything that draws power since I was a little guy ripping apart old stereo receivers and what not! Sure, something with some more bang is bound to come out in the next few months or so; but in my opinion, a device with the capabilities exhibited by this phone are not going to be overlooked anytime soon! Some people may dump the phone and grab whatever is better on the market at that time, but dev is not going to halt for this phone anytime soon as far as I can tell. Even before getting this phone I've done lots of research on android phones and spoken to friends that have owned such, and this is phone definitely marks a milestone in my opinion. Sure it has its bugs, I get LoS once a week or so; but despite its flaws (which will be resolved by the manufacturer or else!) it is a great phone and will serve any user well for YEARS! Hell, I had a Blackberry 8330 for a few years, wasn't anything special by any means at all but with some TLC and mods it was a great phone for as long as I had it. The ET4G should last a Looooooong time...
Edit: I also wanted to say, to those who were saying things about the Galaxy Nexus coming out for Sprint. Sure you may be able to the phone with Sprint in the very near future, but is it not quite similar to the ET4G? Really I guess it depends on preference and such. From what I've read and heard, though...the phones are not THAT much different so I guess whatever feel you like best is what you should get! Cheers!

Worth dumping LTE for this?

I've been wanting the Galaxy Nexus since the announcement but never got around to getting it. I ended up getting a GS2 Skyrocket and have fallen in love with LTE.
Do you think it's worth dumping my skyrocket for the GN? What's the current state of ROM development?

I dumped the skyrocket but I don't live in lte market. And I don't load roms. Stock gnex ics > skyrocket touchwiz
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This is true, buuuut the skyrocket HD is coming out my friend. Id get that, keep it, try out the ics update on it whenever its released
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navymoss35 said:
This is true, buuuut the skyrocket HD is coming out my friend. Id get that, keep it, try out the ics update on it whenever its released
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Coming out in a few months
I kind of miss the stock Google experience.. once a new version of Android is announced, you're the first to get it Kinda wish the GN is $529 like the N1 was

No, LTE > ICS.
Of course you could do like me and switch to Verizon and have both.

Buff McBigstuff said:
No, LTE > ICS.
Of course you could do like me and switch to Verizon and have both.
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LTE has a huge battery drain.
GSM variant of Galaxy Nexus has better battery life and less mAh

Lots of good roms. switch to verizon and get lte too. To be honest if verizon had a GSII I would think twice about my purchase. I love ICS but the camera on this phone drives me nuts. Plus I don't hate Touch Wiz.
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Buff McBigstuff said:
No, LTE > ICS.
Of course you could do like me and switch to Verizon and have both.
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For you, maybe. You can't make that blanket statement for everyone... And I'm sure OP is happy with AT&T (and/or locked in with a large ETF if he's got a Skyrocket).

havent experienced the sg2 myself so i doont know how good it is, but i got the nexus last saturday and i love it more and more everyday. AWESOME PHONE!

zephiK said:
LTE has a huge battery drain.
GSM variant of Galaxy Nexus has better battery life and less mAh
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Yeah but I get 40+ Mbps. Kinda like how Ferraris get terrible gas mileage because a V12 has huge gas drain.
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For you, maybe. You can't make that blanket statement for everyone... And I'm sure OP is happy with AT&T (and/or locked in with a large ETF if he's got a Skyrocket).
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OP asked what I think. I gave him my opinion.

If budget permits, I would say yes, go for the GN. But if I were you at a time like this, I would wait for MWC (Mobile World Congress) where Samsung is allegedly announcing the Galaxy S3 and see what they have to offer in that aspect.

I'm pretty much stuck to AT&T because I get a huge discount off my monthly bill through work
I totally forgot about the Galaxy S3.. hummm

Buff McBigstuff said:
Yeah but I get 40+ Mbps.
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Wtf are you doing on your phone that would make it vital for you to get speeds higher than hspa+?
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Willieumm said:
Wtf are you doing on your phone that would make it vital for you to get speeds higher than hspa+?
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Ummmm... Mobile Hot Spot! Verizon has yet to throttle me on 4G... I use atleast 12-15 GB's / month. That is where it pays off to have Verizon LTE and unlimited data...

Lol again, Verizon is not an option for me. I pay close to $100 a month right now for 4 lines + unlimited data on 3 lines. With Verizon, I'd be paying over $200

Honestly HSPA+ speed are good enough for me in a mobile device. I browse, stream a lot and speeds are good enough. Average around 5Mbps is good for me. Sure I will take lte if there is an option, but it's not a big deal. Finally it comes down personal choice, if you are teethering may be lte speeds are good but for normal usage no big deal.
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Buff McBigstuff said:
Yeah but I get 40+ Mbps. Kinda like how Ferraris get terrible gas mileage because a V12 has huge gas drain.
OP asked what I think. I gave him my opinion.
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Fair enough, but the only ones I've seen complaining about their Galaxy Nexus are the ones getting the US carrier-Nexuses. On overall GSM owners seems happier.
Which may or may not be relevant to OP, so it's worth getting out there.
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To OP: I don't have LTE, so I have no idea what I would be dumping, but this is my general take on the Galaxy Nexus (from another thread)
Seriously though: I think this phone is the best phone I've ever had. For those returning it, it probably wasn't.
This phone was hyped like nothing I have ever seen, and lots of people probably bought it on the wrong premises. Some people probably bought this phone thinking this would be the Android Jesus-device who would save the souls of Apple-users en-masse by its presence alone. A device which could slay iStore employees by simply taking it out of your pocket. A gadget so shiny, the sun would feel its competition. Etc.
To those people, this device probably didn't deliver. They probably returned it.
To me though this phone is a godsend. Not only is the HW pretty good, it is also 100% open. It's a device whose openness is unprecedented in other types of phones.
I can compile Android from source and flash on this device. Using open tools which I've also built from source. It's not just something I say that you "can" do. I've built the source and deployed on my phone. No hacking or closed drivers or protocols required. Why? Just because I can. It gives you a feeling of actual ownership which is hard to describe or match.
If I want to run nothing but stock but rooted, I can do that without any need to meddle deeply with the phone. In fact, if all I want is a custom recovery to do nandroid backups, I can do that without flashing or modifying the phone in any way.
How? It's easy. I can boot my phone off a boot-image (and hence recovery-image too) hosted outside the phone. I can boot my phone from code hosted outside it. No hacking required. Absolutely none.
This is what a Nexus device is all about. It's all fully open. It does what you ask it. Even if it is retarded. Even if it is singing the Hello Kitty theme song while in the bootloader. Because the device is open. It's yours. It's yours to do exactly what you want with it.
The openness of this thing is amazing. For me, there is absolutely no other phone I would consider. Others might land at some other choice and that is perfectly fine too.
People returning this phone are probably doing it because they followed internet-hype and didn't research what they were actually buying.
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If you think that sounds awesome, LTE is probably worth dumping. If you think "that sounds... like something I dont care about at all", then probably not.

Had the Verizon GN. Was surprised to find that I actually had 4g where I lived. Got ~35mbps down and ~7mbps up. With mild use, was finding it difficult to get the battery to last through the day.
Returned it, bought the unlocked GSM version, popped an at&t similar in, and now my battery lasts all day with almost twice as much use and 30% left at night. Pages load at roughly the same speed. Call quality is better (maybe just where I live, but the Verizon version was always a little "glitchy").
Just my experience with LTE and the nexus.
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I have both phones and love both, skyrocket gives me 2 days in one charge easily, gnex only about 10-14 hours with extended battery but love stock ics.
If you already have the skyrocket then stick with it, its a great phone, if you dont have neither, get the Gnex gsm.

For now, LTE is the future. I carry a spare battery if and when needed. Battery technology will always be playing catch up.

might buy this phone but...

so my upgrade is due in about a month for my og evo and was thinking about this phone because i played with it in a sprint store and really liked it except for the touchwiz part... so just wondering if there are any sense roms on this phone or if its even possible... i know there was one for the nexus s 4g. if not, no big deal because i'll probably be running ics anyway but just curious haha

there are no sense roms for this. and being a longtime user of HTC, I thought I would miss sense as well.
did not. not one bit. I actually prefer TW at this point, far closer to aosp, in most ways, cleaner.
of course there are sense "themes" for alternate launchers you could use, if you really needed it...
and with ICS around the corner, well we'll have CM9, AOKP, MIUI4... plenty of better options than Anything sense based.
and again, frankly, still like running stock ROMs on this phone. after all the crap I heard about how "bad" TW is/was, I expected to change it quick. but TBH I can't understand what they were talking about. clean. responsive, light on resources (compared to sense)... to each his own though, right?

alright thanks haha. its just after 2 years sense has kinda made a place for itself in my heart so idk haha. btw any news on the sgsIII? i heard a few rumors but figured this forum would know more about it like any news on a release date or a definite shape or look of the phone for sprint? don't want to buy a device and have it already be outdated like 2 months later haha

PhxkinMassacre said:
don't want to buy a device and have it already be outdated like 2 months later haha
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LOL, i know what you mean. I gave up on that race. I ended up hesitating on everything, because of reading rumor of "the newest thing, right around the corner". I am just committed to buying a new device every year, find something awesome, run it into the ground. ;-)
and this phone is AWESOME. seriously. fast as ****, brilliant screen, SO much internal storage and RAM, I can't make this phone fail.

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LOL, i know what you mean. I gave up on that race. I ended up hesitating on everything, because of reading rumor of "the newest thing, right around the corner". I am just committed to buying a new device every year, find something awesome, run it into the ground. ;-)
and this phone is AWESOME. seriously. fast as ****, brilliant screen, SO much internal storage and RAM, I can't make this phone fail.
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haha alright. thanks for the info. if nothing else better comes out in a month, this is at the top of my list

There is usually never a point to wait but this time there is a case to wait. Sprint well be starting to sell lte phones around midyear that will support their new lte network. Being this close to that there is no reason to grab a Wimax phone.
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m0ckery13 said:
There is usually never a point to wait but this time there is a case to wait. Sprint well be starting to sell lte phones around midyear that will support their new lte network. Being this close to that there is no reason to grab a Wimax phone.
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What he said. There ate a few nice phones on the horizon that should really compete with the E4GT, plus have LTE
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tbh i would wait for an lte phone at this point. this phone is 6 months old now and if the og evo is still kicking i would hold out for an lte one.

I would wait too if that evo is still good..
This phone is awesome but i would wait for an LTE phone.

I wouldn't wait for LTE, Sprint is having their own issues with the rollout which was expected to be limited coverage anyhow for the first 1-2 years. 4g might be spotty but in a good area its crazy fast and its my understanding that phones wont have both 4g/wimax and lte. This means that unless you are in a lte area your new lte phone will only really have 3g and wifi. Just get the best phone out when your contract is up. I got this phone last month and believe its the best phone out right now.

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I wouldn't wait for LTE, Sprint is having their own issues with the rollout which was expected to be limited coverage anyhow for the first 1-2 years. 4g might be spotty but in a good area its crazy fast and its my understanding that phones wont have both 4g/wimax and lte. This means that unless you are in a lte area your new lte phone will only really have 3g and wifi. Just get the best phone out when your contract is up. I got this phone last month and believe its the best phone out right now.
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Agree completely; there is no way there will be much Sprint LTE before the end of this year, and, then, it will only be in their major cities, if at all.
I would jump all over this phone ASAP, since its the best Android phone out there, bar none..and, if you look around, there are some good deals..

I'd save the upgrade and buy a gently used E4GT for $100 more. I realize there are places that offer the E4GT as an upgrade for less than $200, but that isn't an option for sero users like myself. Anyway lol, I've gone from the og Evo, to the 3vo, to the E4GT just a few days ago, and this thing is Big and Beautiful! I highly recommend switching
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PhxkinMassacre said:
so my upgrade is due in about a month for my og evo and was thinking about this phone because i played with it in a sprint store and really liked it except for the touchwiz part... so just wondering if there are any sense roms on this phone or if its even possible... i know there was one for the nexus s 4g. if not, no big deal because i'll probably be running ics anyway but just curious haha
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I came from the OG EVO 4G as well. A world of a difference and I love it! I hadn't been using Sense on my EVO for the last half a year cuz I've been using ADW anyway. There are so many good launchers out there and ICS is awesome in itself, I'm sure you won't miss Sense at all.
This phone is a ton faster than the EVO and the screen is amazing. My EVO would take a few minutes to fully start up, the S2 takes <30 sec. You will love it, I'm sure!
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+1 on buying privately instead of upgrading if possible...
In the past 4 months I have bought 3 S2's (one I just bought yesterday), all of them I paid $400 max for. And these phones were brand spanking new, still sealed in the box. If you look for a lightly used one, I'm sure you can get one for around the $300 range.
I had a fortunate situation though cuz my EVO broke on my, so Sprint replaced it with a new one. I sold that one on eBay for $260, so my out of pocket expense wasn't too bad. I love not being under contract, plus it leaves you the option should the Sprint network change and something totally awesome comes out and you wanna be locked in again.

Yo massacre id recommed the et4g i came from evo too lte is having so many issues rolling out on sprint who knows when it will be ready especially now that the fcc either has or is trying to block lightsquared for the gps interference issues which is gonna do some real damage to sprint both finacially and in their ability to obtain the hardware and support they are gonna need, and with wimax continuing to be supported atleast until 2015 if you are currently in a 4g area you will be able to use it til your up for an upgrade again vs you could wait for lte and it wont be available in your area right away or not at all if lte happens as planned right now it looks like anything other than test markets are being delayed for now
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I have been hearing that BS about 4G/LTE for 2 years now...when a customer asks me when it's coming I just state that I have no idea, best plce to stay current with all of that is www dot clear dot com and keep checking the coverage map in your area.

Clear doesn't do lte yet, atleast not in my area they are exclusively wimax here in the Tampa bay area
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I would wait for LTE too. I do second buying a used one but good luck finding an E4GT for $100, $200 is more likely. If you want Sense wait for a new HTC phone.
Sammys feel cheaper and are scratch magnets. Appearance wise, I think HTCs hold up better. I'm not a TW fan and I'm not Sense fan either. I like it simple and have used Launcherpro with Fancy Widgets for the sense style clock and the 5 day forecast. Been doing that for all my HTC, LG and Samsung phones. Since I'm now on a an ICS rom, I'm trying Nova Launcher.
The E4GT is the best phone I have owned but it is getting old and the new cycle bigger, badder and faster is about to start. Don't lock yourself into last year's phone with a wasted upgrade.

I would wait for LTE too. I do second buying a used one but good luck finding an E4GT for $100, $200 is more likely. If you want Sense wait for a new HTC phone.
Sammys feel cheaper and are scratch magnets. Appearance wise, I think HTCs hold up better. I'm not a TW fan and I'm not Sense fan either. I like it simple and have used Launcherpro with Fancy Widgets for the sense style clock and the 5 day forecast. Been doing that for all my HTC, LG and Samsung phones. Since I'm now on a an ICS rom, I'm trying Nova Launcher.
The E4GT is the best phone I have owned but it is getting old and the new cycle bigger, badder and faster is about to start. Don't lock yourself into last year's phone with a wasted upgrade.

I wonder if I'm the only one ...

who would rather not hear about a phone months before it might be available on my carrier of choice.
I'd like more focus on what's available now, how to fine tune it and get more life out of it than knowing a company is spending tons of money baiting us with what might one day be. Frankly I get really annoyed when that next best phone doesn't show up on my carrier.
I'd much prefer waking up one morning and bam newer, better phone from Samsung without even knowing it was coming.
I personally think it's one of the reasons many of us (me, me, me) struggle to hang onto a device for any length of time and, of course, that's likely why they do what they do. Get us lusting for the next, best, greatest thing ever so that by the time it's finally out we're ravenous to have it. Only for me, it totally backfired with the Nexus. When it was first announced I was gonna be first in line to buy it, but by now, meh I'll wait and see what's next.
Just a rambling thought.

My buddy got the VW Nexus and is taking it back for the razr maxx. He has had one problem after another, like the phone crashes and goes a boot loop if you turn on wifi.
The screen isn't really bigger thanks to the on screen buttons, my phone has more useful area. Its not worth it IMO, especially since I'm running ICS already on this...

I feel ya. Sprint got me with the evo, I bought the hero thirty two days before. When the galaxy 2 came out I didn't hesitate waiting for the nexus.
Ima pass on the galaxy 3, cause three months later a better phone will come to sprint with all the LTE bugs fixed.
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It's just a phone to me. I don't even care about what new ones are coming out because it seems way too expensive to be updating every few months. I can't justify spending that much money that often on a phone.
I stuck with my old phone for two years and can easily live with this phone for two years.
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I prefer the phones just show up on my doorstep when available.

sfhub said:
I prefer the phones just show up on my doorstep when available.
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Sfhub, are you keeping your Epic Touch for a while?
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I don't mind hearing about the new phones. I've come to an understanding that I will always have the coolest, greatest, best-est thing for 3 months, and then it gets replaced by something better.
The thing to remember is that the hardware doesn't get "old" it's that the software gets "newer". It's the same story with computers. You could have a Pentium computer, running Windows 3.1 and Word 5.0 and it will work like a charm. It's when you decide to try to put Windows 7 on that computer that the hardware fails you.
Our phones are the same. Take all the apps out now that work like a charm with your phone, install them, work with them and your phone should work just as well now as it will in 2 years. It's the fact that new apps come out that demand more from the processor, use the better camera, take advantage of better sound, and now your phone has"aged"
This is just the way the tech industry is. Hence why Moore's law is still in effect
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore's_law
Just my 2 cents

Im upgrading to the Tmobile g1
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JohnCorleone said:
Sfhub, are you keeping your Epic Touch for a while?
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Most likely.

Personally I would much rather know when a new phone is coming so I don't buy a phone a month or 2 before a better phone comes out. And I disagree that a better phone comes out every three months. The GSII came out like a year ago ( and almost a year ago in the US) and its still arguably the best phone out there. The Nexus doesn't have as good as hardware and personally I cannot understand why anyone would downgrade from a SGII to a Nexus, that's beyond me...The Note has a bigger screen and even though I woud like to have one its not worth it with the SGIII almost here. As for the HTC One X it probably is a little better than the SGII but honestly not by much. I think its crazy that HTC's new flagship phone has just about the exact same specs as Samsung's year old phone. What were they thinking (and I like HTC phones but the SGIII will blow it out of the water). So in conclusion if your phone is outdated in 3 months you either bought the phone late after it came out or you bought a crappy phone.

d12unk13astard said:
Im upgrading to the Tmobile g1
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So Jelly ...

Personally I would much rather know when a new phone is coming so I don't buy a phone a month or 2 before a better phone comes out. And I disagree that a better phone comes out every three months. The GSII came out like a year ago ( and almost a year ago in the US) and its still arguably the best phone out there. The Nexus doesn't have as good as hardware and personally I cannot understand why anyone would downgrade from a SGII to a Nexus, that's beyond me...The Note has a bigger screen and even though I woud like to have one its not worth it with the SGIII almost here. As for the HTC One X it probably is a little better than the SGII but honestly not by much. I think its crazy that HTC's new flagship phone has just about the exact same specs as Samsung's year old phone. What were they thinking (and I like HTC phones but the SGIII will blow it out of the water). So in conclusion if your phone is outdated in 3 months you either bought the phone late after it came out or you bought a crappy phone.
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brekec88 said:
Personally I would much rather know when a new phone is coming so I don't buy a phone a month or 2 before a better phone comes out. And I disagree that a better phone comes out every three months. The GSII came out like a year ago ( and almost a year ago in the US) and its still arguably the best phone out there. The Nexus doesn't have as good as hardware and personally I cannot understand why anyone would downgrade from a SGII to a Nexus, that's beyond me...The Note has a bigger screen and even though I woud like to have one its not worth it with the SGIII almost here. As for the HTC One X it probably is a little better than the SGII but honestly not by much. I think its crazy that HTC's new flagship phone has just about the exact same specs as Samsung's year old phone. What were they thinking (and I like HTC phones but the SGIII will blow it out of the water). So in conclusion if your phone is outdated in 3 months you either bought the phone late after it came out or you bought a crappy phone.
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But see that's part of what I'm talking about. I too am waiting for the SGSIII but we have no idea if it will even make it to Sprint.
I've never waited an entire 2yrs or 22months whatever the limit is to upgrade a phone. I've bought several of mine at full price because I do like shiny new gadgets but only if they are an actual upgrade. For example, I was peeved at wasting an early upgrade on the stupid Evo 3D thinking it was an upgrade from the OG Evo, in my opinion it wasn't and I couldn't wait to drop that stupid phone when the E4GT came out.
Now that I'm getting more comfortable with flashing custom ROMs and themes I can see myself hanging onto my phone for longer than I normally would, heck I've already had it for almost 8 months which is a record for me.
If the SGSIII comes out and Sprint gets it (or a good variation of it) then I'll be all over that, I just hate the months and months of speculation that, for us, usually amounts to jack squat.

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But see that's part of what I'm talking about. I too am waiting for the SGSIII but we have no idea if it will even make it to Sprint.
I've never waited an entire 2yrs or 22months whatever the limit is to upgrade a phone. I've bought several of mine at full price because I do like shiny new gadgets but only if they are an actual upgrade. For example, I was peeved at wasting an early upgrade on the stupid Evo 3D thinking it was an upgrade from the OG Evo, in my opinion it wasn't and I couldn't wait to drop that stupid phone when the E4GT came out.
Now that I'm getting more comfortable with flashing custom ROMs and themes I can see myself hanging onto my phone for longer than I normally would, heck I've already had it for almost 8 months which is a record for me.
If the SGSIII comes out and Sprint gets it (or a good variation of it) then I'll be all over that, I just hate the months and months of speculation that, for us, usually amounts to jack squat.
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I have heard (might be or not be true) from several sources not only will sprint get it but will also get it first in the US. I love changing phones often as well and have been contemplating switching to Att pay as you go or Straighttalk pay as you go. Its only 50 a month for unlimited everything and you can just buy international unlocked phones. Also Att and straittalk(they use Att towers) have faster data speeds. Plus international phones are always release first.

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I have heard (might be or not be true) from several sources not only will sprint get it but will also get it first in the US. I love changing phones often as well and have been contemplating switching to Att pay as you go or Straighttalk pay as you go. Its only 50 a month for unlimited everything and you can just buy international unlocked phones. Also Att and straittalk(they use Att towers) have faster data speeds. Plus international phones are always release first.
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+1 Tried to talk my wife into straight talk myself.. As long as you don't go over 2gb of data you should be good. I must admit it's still tempting.. sell the Epic and get a new GSM nexus for $399
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coldblooded79 said:
+1 Tried to talk my wife into straight talk myself.. As long as you don't go over 2gb of data you should be good. I must admit it's still tempting.. sell the Epic and get a new GSM nexus for $399
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Why the heck would you do that Nexus is a downgrade...Just wait for GS3 and if you can't wait grab the HTC One X for only $150 more than the Nexus, then just sell it for a SG3 if you like more. And Straight talk seems good but was leaning towards Att Go phone $50 plan, you get unlimited EVERYTHING, you just have to activate it in a dumb phone like a motarola Razr and switch the Sim card. I know it sounds to good to be true but ive done research and others on XDA say it works.

brekec88 said:
Personally I would much rather know when a new phone is coming so I don't buy a phone a month or 2 before a better phone comes out. And I disagree that a better phone comes out every three months. The GSII came out like a year ago ( and almost a year ago in the US) and its still arguably the best phone out there. The Nexus doesn't have as good as hardware and personally I cannot understand why anyone would downgrade from a SGII to a Nexus, that's beyond me...The Note has a bigger screen and even though I woud like to have one its not worth it with the SGIII almost here. As for the HTC One X it probably is a little better than the SGII but honestly not by much. I think its crazy that HTC's new flagship phone has just about the exact same specs as Samsung's year old phone. What were they thinking (and I like HTC phones but the SGIII will blow it out of the water). So in conclusion if your phone is outdated in 3 months you either bought the phone late after it came out or you bought a crappy phone.
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Agreed with everything you said 100%

Still worth getting sprint galaxy nexus?

I just got a job at coporate sprint store. So i trying to decide on what phone to get. I always wanted a galaxy nexus but was wondering any issue(especially sprint) with the device. I know the gs3 is out but im really not feeling that device.... So anybody with the sprint galaxy nexus still recommended the phone with the current devices sprint offer???

How often can employees get subsidized upgrades? Sorry I don't have Sprint so I can't answer but I've always wondered about that....
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I so insanely recommend it, and grab one of the slim extended batteries you guys are giving away. I run mmuzzy's pure stock AOSP 4.1.1 JRO03L build and it is flawless and smooth as butter. I compare my Nexus to the SIII every so often when I stop in my local Sprint store, and I don't regret my choice.
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CDMA=Garbage.
Unless they are paying your phone bill for you get yourself a GSM one.

You're working at a corporate Sprint store? I feel bad for you lol. Well, only if it is a service and repair. Those stupid CSAT surveys are DUMB. Not even mentioning selling jam boxes and SPC. Literally the most stressful job I've ever had LOL.
Get the Nexus. Touchwiz is garbage.
Sent from my GNEX.

Get either one IMO, flip a coin.
The GS3 is getting more stuff all the time.
The GNex is good and will be for a while.
Although in Sprint's case, I may get the GS3, since the Sprint version is really gimped.

Dj21o said:
You're working at a corporate Sprint store? I feel bad for you lol. Well, only if it is a service and repair. Those stupid CSAT surveys are DUMB. Not even mentioning selling jam boxes and SPC. Literally the most stressful job I've ever had LOL.
Get the Nexus. Touchwiz is garbage.
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Yea ill probably get the nexus. As for are they paying your bill lets just say its ALMOST free... But im excited for this job, even though i read reviews of people hating to work for sprint. To me it depends on location of the sprint store you work at. Im pretty sure most are better than some... But what isnt???

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Yea ill probably get the nexus. As for are they paying your bill lets just say its ALMOST free... But im excited for this job, even though i read reviews of people hating to work for sprint. To me it depends on location of the sprint store you work at. Im pretty sure most are better than some... But what isnt???
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That's a good way to look at it and be positive. There was a lot of corruption in my store and it was very stressful. I learned A LOT when I was there. Are you going to be a rep or a tech?
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A rep. Just started today doing ilearn you know boring stuff lol! But everybody i work with seems cool so far. Mostly everybody that i work with came from the local radioshacks lol so i find that really weird in a way???? even the sprint store in my area mall ALL their employees are former radioshack employees!!!

Former Radio Shack employee here also trying for the local Sprint stores to be a rep. Plus, when I was at Radio Shack my first year I was top sales for Sprint in my entire district, so it would make a lot of sense for me to transition to Sprint eventually.
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If I had the choice for a GSM one i would go that route. But if you're only choice is sprint go with the gnex. Its totally worth it. Software > Hardware. Even though the GS3 has its own cm10 there are numerous issues and it will never run correctly or as efficiently as touchwiz does on that device. If you like pure android the gnex is your device.
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If I had the choice for a GSM one i would go that route. But if you're only choice is sprint go with the gnex. Its totally worth it. Software > Hardware. Even though the GS3 has its own cm10 there are numerous issues and it will never run correctly or as efficiently as touchwiz does on that device. If you like pure android the gnex is your device.
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Agreed. If I had to choose a new phone on Sprint right now I'd choose the Gnex again. If nothing else for the onscreen keys. If you're a vanilla Android fan it's a no brainer.

Keep in mind he gets the direct employee plan. He's actually getting a better deal out of it than he would on GSM for what he'll be getting at the employee rate.
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Zeinzu said:
Keep in mind he gets the direct employee plan. He's actually getting a better deal out of it than he would on GSM for what he'll be getting at the employee rate.
Sent from my Stock AOSP Android 4.1.1 Galaxy Nexus.
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You better believe with my discount im sticking with the cdma model!!! First day today and all we sold were iphones, gs3, and evo lte. But that was also what was brought back in with people trying to figure out why they cant use the market lol!

Thanks guys for the feedback. Anybody have any major issues with the sprint model? Nobody really said anything about issues. Played with the store demo today at work and the phone is still on ics and it was so smooth and fast. Bet its a beast on JB!

I use mmuzzy's pure stock untouched AOSP 4.1 build and have not a single issue. Your experience with the Nexus should be very good.
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Just make sure the screen is up to par. Turn it down to 0% and look at the calculator and see if the darker buttons have a purple tint. If so you have a defective screen or at least a visual defect.
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Dont buy it...i got burn in after only 6 months...the software is gr8 but the hardware sucks big time....
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vladtdr said:
Dont buy it...i got burn in after only 6 months...the software is gr8 but the hardware sucks big time....
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Any phone can do that. Its a big problem with LED displays. Just get it switched out since he is going carrier route.
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I will give you my opinion as someone who had the GNEX (on Verizon) for the past 6 months and just made the switch to the S3 2 days ago......
Let me first give some on the positives of the GNEX. It gets updates and as far as custom Roms are concerned and everything usually is in full working order. You won't see a list of non working things in it's thread. It is great knowing when someone releases something it will just work.
The device is smooth. On ICS it was smooth and on JB even more. I never had any issues with Lag.
Now for the reason I decided to leave the GNEX. The screen quality is terrible. Even if you get one with a good screen, it is still pretty bad, especially on stock with altering any colors. Luckily with custom kernels you can help the screen quite a bit but if your screen has a purple tint or lines through it at lower brightness there is nothing you can really do to fix those issues.
The camera, oh boy the camera!!! In daylight and outdoor shots the camera takes some amazing pictures. Go indoors with non natural light or low lit areas and you can barely make out people's faces in the pic (a little exaggerated but you get the point). Having a 2 year old and not wanting to carry a camera around with me every day a good camera in my phone while maybe not important to everyone is pretty important to me.
The battery life. The LTE battery life is an embarrassment. I do not think you can really test this on Sprint yet since so one really has LTE but on Verizon, if you have LTE on you would be lucky if you can hit 2 hours of on screen time and that is with the 2100mAh extended battery. With Sprint I guess you can really only test it on 3G and 3G will always perform better for battery. But I switched to Verizon from Sprint for it's LTE network and when they got the GNEX is when I made the jump. It was the first Verizon phone I actually wanted.
Also, when I first switched to the GNEX, I was coming from a Sprint Epic 4G Touch. When putting them side by side I felt like I was downgrading by keeping the GNEX. After 2 days I actually packed up the GNEX and was about to send it back and port back to Sprint but I decided to stick it out. I just didn't want to go back to GB and a Wimax phone knowing Sprint is doing away with the technology.
Oh, and another thing I am not a fan of that most people love are the on screen buttons. They waste to much space for no reason. I was to use all of my 4.6" screen. Why would I want to take away from that! It is not like the space is not there on the bottom of the device to add capacitive buttons! I might be in the minority on this one though as a lot of folks enjoy their on screen buttons and customizing them.
Onto the S3. While I did not have it that long and I also need to run now that I spent so much time on the GNEX, it seems to be an amazing device. I have had for 2 days now I have yet to root it. It feels so good on stock and I am really enjoying the experience I am in no rush to do it. I have nothing against TW and I enjoyed it on the E4GT as well. As a matter of fact their are lots of people who want to flash software and run themes that mimic the S3 so it can't be that bad. I used to run an S3 theme on my GNEX and then removed it saying no matter how good the theme is my phone is no S3!
The screen on the S3 is gorgeous. Much closer to the Super Amoled Plus Screen I was used to. The device is super thin and light. Feels great in the hand. I like not having the buttons on the screen. I get to enjoy all 4.8 inches of it!
Battery life seems to be great as well. I have yet to kill it in the 2 days with it. I was at 2.5 hours of on screen times after 14 hours of being unplugged and was at 40% battery left. It felt good knowing that I would have a device that I can actually use all day and not worry about it dying on me at some point.
The camera is so much better in low lit area's and it also has no shutter lag like the GNEX. Although I still think the E4GT took better low light pics then the S3, it still shines way above the GNEX in this category.
As far as smoothness is concerned. While the specs scream latest and greatest and benchmarks definitely back that up as well, it is no smoother then the GNEX is so nothing to worry about there.
Anyway, to wrap it up you need to decide what is important to you and go with it. The S3 fit my needs better at this time and I feel like the GNEX just came up a little short in area's where it could have really shined.
At this point if I was interested in a GNEX device, I would probably be looking to see about the next GNEX which hopefully addresses it short comings....
Oh, one last thing to consider. The LTE radio's in the Verizon GNEX has caused so may issues with a lot of users devices, I went through 3 before I got one that worked well, it will be hard to tell if Sprint has the same issues until more users are in an LTE area. So you might have problems down the line when they start flipping the switch. Jut something to think about that you might not know when you first get the device.....