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Just ordered my SGS2 online!

Do you guys think I made the right choice of ordering the sgs2 instead of the Amaze?
How's dev so far for this phone? Any recommendations you guys can give as far rooting, custom rom & kernel?
So excited to get this new phone!
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babymatteo said:
Do you guys think I made the right choice of ordering the sgs2 instead of the Amaze?
How's dev so far for this phone? Any recommendations you guys can give as far rooting, custom rom & kernel?
So excited to get this new phone!
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Yes you did make the right chose indeed! The development is kinda slow at the moment. People wasting so much time deciding between the amaze and sgsii. Once we get root, expect the development to kick off and some goodies!

It's all waiting on the root, then it's on!
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Theres not much deving cause i mean.. Cmon we just got it.
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phreshjoker said:
Theres not much deving cause i mean.. Cmon we just got it.
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You said the best answer. Why are people expecting MIRACLES on 34th Street? This phone is about a week old. I hope you guys don't expect a newborn to walk.
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YES! I'm loving it even without root, which I'm confident we will have within a week!
I'm planning on rooting, removing the bloat, adding google talk with video, unrooting, then leaving it alone for a month or so.
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You did make the right choice, this is a great phone!
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babymatteo said:
Do you guys think I made the right choice of ordering the sgs2 instead of the Amaze?
How's dev so far for this phone? Any recommendations you guys can give as far rooting, custom rom & kernel?
So excited to get this new phone!
Sent from my LG-P999 using Tapatalk
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which SGS2 model did you order?

I just decided to read the reviews for the phone on t-mo.com (sort of the final step before I buy one after work today just to make sure there aren't any massive issues people have been reporting that I've missed) and I have to say, and I apologize allgamer because this is sort of off-topic, they were ****ing hilarious.
One guy claimed this phone should not be advertised as a non-LTE phone because it is a LTE device (huh? HSPA+ is definitely the same as LTE...waaaaait...). Another claimed that because there was no wifi calling, you couldn't surf the web on wifi! OH EM GEE GAIZ U CNT SUFR TEH WEBZ! Wait no...My Nexus S can't do Wifi calling and I can (and do) use it on WiFi all the time. Same with my Epic 4G. Same with my Evo 4G. Same with my MT3G. Same with my wife's Evo Shift 4G. Same with my Wife's Nexus S. Wow, I guess samsung must have really screwed the pooch or something to make it so that wifi calling was linked to all wifi use. Yikes! They better fix that soon! (That was sarcasm, FYI).
On a serious note though, I've done the reading, compared to the Amaze and watched the Galaxy Nexus launch and I'm not convinced any of them are or will be better than this phone on t-mo. The only real huge selling points of the GN (compared to the SGS2) are the HD screen and ICS; we'll get ICS and .15in diagonally larger isn't really that much so oh well. As for the Amaze? Its really only got better resolution which I couldn't find an issue with in store and I have pretty discerning eyes. Yes, I could see the difference but I couldn't see it making an impact on my daily life.
In summation, and as a non-owner of the SGS2 I'd have to tell the OP that yes, you did in fact make the right choice!

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I just decided to read the reviews for the phone on t-mo.com (sort of the final step before I buy one after work today just to make sure there aren't any massive issues people have been reporting that I've missed) and I have to say, and I apologize allgamer because this is sort of off-topic, they were ****ing hilarious.
One guy claimed this phone should not be advertised as a non-LTE phone because it is a LTE device (huh? HSPA+ is definitely the same as LTE...waaaaait...). Another claimed that because there was no wifi calling, you couldn't surf the web on wifi! OH EM GEE GAIZ U CNT SUFR TEH WEBZ! Wait no...My Nexus S can't do Wifi calling and I can (and do) use it on WiFi all the time. Same with my Epic 4G. Same with my Evo 4G. Same with my MT3G. Same with my wife's Evo Shift 4G. Same with my Wife's Nexus S. Wow, I guess samsung must have really screwed the pooch or something to make it so that wifi calling was linked to all wifi use. Yikes! They better fix that soon! (That was sarcasm, FYI).
On a serious note though, I've done the reading, compared to the Amaze and watched the Galaxy Nexus launch and I'm not convinced any of them are or will be better than this phone on t-mo. The only real huge selling points of the GN (compared to the SGS2) are the HD screen and ICS; we'll get ICS and .15in diagonally larger isn't really that much so oh well. As for the Amaze? Its really only got better resolution which I couldn't find an issue with in store and I have pretty discerning eyes. Yes, I could see the difference but I couldn't see it making an impact on my daily life.
In summation, and as a non-owner of the SGS2 I'd have to tell the OP that yes, you did in fact make the right choice!
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I am getting the Galaxy Nexus just because it has no buttons. To tell the truth our phone is bigger because the virtual buttons take of space on the screen. Other than that the galaxy nexus has no real selling factor besides icecream sandwich.

I just realized one thing I don't know about the S2...does it come with a mSD and if so what size is it?

AllGamer said:
which SGS2 model did you order?
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There's different models? I ordered mine from the Tmobile website. I got the overnight shipping so it should be in by tomorrow.

kenvan19 said:
I just decided to read the reviews for the phone on t-mo.com (sort of the final step before I buy one after work today just to make sure there aren't any massive issues people have been reporting that I've missed) and I have to say, and I apologize allgamer because this is sort of off-topic, they were ****ing hilarious.
One guy claimed this phone should not be advertised as a non-LTE phone because it is a LTE device (huh? HSPA+ is definitely the same as LTE...waaaaait...). Another claimed that because there was no wifi calling, you couldn't surf the web on wifi! OH EM GEE GAIZ U CNT SUFR TEH WEBZ! Wait no...My Nexus S can't do Wifi calling and I can (and do) use it on WiFi all the time. Same with my Epic 4G. Same with my Evo 4G. Same with my MT3G. Same with my wife's Evo Shift 4G. Same with my Wife's Nexus S. Wow, I guess samsung must have really screwed the pooch or something to make it so that wifi calling was linked to all wifi use. Yikes! They better fix that soon! (That was sarcasm, FYI).
On a serious note though, I've done the reading, compared to the Amaze and watched the Galaxy Nexus launch and I'm not convinced any of them are or will be better than this phone on t-mo. The only real huge selling points of the GN (compared to the SGS2) are the HD screen and ICS; we'll get ICS and .15in diagonally larger isn't really that much so oh well. As for the Amaze? Its really only got better resolution which I couldn't find an issue with in store and I have pretty discerning eyes. Yes, I could see the difference but I couldn't see it making an impact on my daily life.
In summation, and as a non-owner of the SGS2 I'd have to tell the OP that yes, you did in fact make the right choice!
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Thanks...this really reassured me

babymatteo said:
There's different models? I ordered mine from the Tmobile website. I got the overnight shipping so it should be in by tomorrow.
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Tmobile USA or Tmobile UK ?
yes there are different models of the SGS2

AllGamer said:
Tmobile USA or Tmobile UK ?
yes there are different models of the SGS2
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Oic...definitely the Tmo US version...i believe it's the SGH-T989 IIRC.

then you are in the right forum

AllGamer said:
then you are in the right forum
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Lmao...cool i passed the test

kenvan19 said:
I just realized one thing I don't know about the S2...does it come with a mSD and if so what size is it?
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mine from the T-Mobile store had no mSD.
I ordered a class 10- from Amazon. 16gb Amazonbasic was $33.

no, samsung never shipped phones with free external microSD included.
it was always purchased separately
only Motorola ships 8 GB microSD included

AllGamer said:
no, samsung never shipped phones with free external microSD included.
it was always purchased separately
only Motorola ships 8 GB microSD included
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And htc .
I need galaxy s 2 now ..
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GSM Galaxy Nexus going on eBay - Galaxy Note en route

I've thoroughly enjoyed my short ownership of this device, but after the OMG nature of ICS wore off, it's really just an average phone.
I've ordered a Galaxy Note and will be here Monday. Despite touchwiz, slow updates, blabla, the Note just seems like an incredible device that can finally allow me to leave my laptop behind.
Not trolling, just posting as others may find interest in the Note once the newness of the Nexus wears off.
If you are interested in buying direct, PM me. I will be very fair on the price if it's done outside of eBay's ridiculous fees. Steinheil protector + spare, case and absolutely mint with everything.
No, this isn't an ad for my phone. It's jut a post that's intended to generate discussion on the comparison.

To be honest I would have purchased a note also, but it won't work with T-Mobile 3g. I love my nexus though, and the development on here will make it truely remarkable
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Buh bye google updates.
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I came from a note and got the nexus and I don't regret returning the note at all. The note had very bad color banding or at least mine did. Also videos were horrible due to a halo effect that would show up in a white background. I hope it was just my unit but it seems like many were having the same issue as I did. The only thing I liked much more about the note was the battery life. Would last me sometimes 3 days! Nexus doesn't even come close...
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i just did the opposite! i bought a gsm note to use on ATT but it had several issues. had problems with the capacitive touch buttons not working after phone calls. the phone would also shut it self off randomly. i returned it because of those problems. if it wasnt for that it was a really cool phone. the extra screen real estate was nice for games and web sites.

I'm not saying this because I have a Nexus, but I find it hard to understand how you find it just an average phone. The camera is about the only average thing about it, everything else runs so well in ICS which makes the experience as a whole so much more coherent.
The only thing I'd really wish for at the moment would be an LTE version for GSM carriers.

outsidah said:
I'm not saying this because I have a Nexus, but I find it hard to understand how you find it just an average phone. The camera is about the only average thing about it, everything else runs so well in ICS which makes the experience as a whole so much more coherent.
The only thing I'd really wish for at the moment would be an LTE version for GSM carriers.
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Yeah, I considered that, but ATT will drop the legendary Exoynos processor because it isn't compatible with LTE.
That and who knows how ATT will handle grandfathered unlimited plans that try to go to LTE. I simply don't trust them to let me keep it.
6mbps is plenty fast since I don't tether.

to each their own but please list a few phones that you consider above average
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@rbiter said:
Buh bye google updates.
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Hello better phone with ICS in the pipeline? Wacom digitizer and all.
Different strokes, I guess. I've owned the Nexus One, Nexus S, SGSII, EVO. Pure google, while nice, ends up being modded to hell anyway by most, so it's not an issue for me personally. I don't like touchwiz, but that's fixable with launchers.

If the Note was going to be on Verizon I would have thought about it. If it gets a CM9 port then it could be a killer phone. My brother-in-law imported one for his AT&T line and I got to play with it. VERYYY NICE.

spovat said:
to each their own but please list a few phones that you consider above average
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I have nothing to prove to anyone. Just think the 2500 mAh battery, wacom digitizer and real-estate of the Note are worthy advantages.
Not going to launch into an I'VE FOUND THE JESUS PHONE debate. Most all modern phones are pretty close in performance/features anyway.
Just my preference. The Nexus is a great device, but not the absolute best ever. If it didn't have ICS, this forum would be lit up with endless *****ing.

ericshmerick said:
I have nothing to prove to anyone. Just think the 2500 mAh battery, wacom digitizer and real-estate of the Note are worthy advantages.
Not going to launch into an I'VE FOUND THE JESUS PHONE debate. Most all modern phones are pretty close in performance/features anyway.
Just my preference. The Nexus is a great device, but not the absolute best ever. If it didn't have ICS, this forum would be lit up with endless *****ing.
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If you don't have anything to prove then what was the purpose of creating this thread? If you want to sell your phone then go to the marketplace.
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Market place link is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=476
You shouldn't need to make a thread to justify your decision. Cool, you're going to the Galaxy Note, good luck. The Galaxy Nexus forum will continue the way it is without you.
If you didn't want a debate about Galaxy Nexus vs. Galaxy Note, then just post up your ad in the marketplace and be on your way. Simple as that.

This is a thread for discussion, not spam.
It's basically sold already, but thanks for the slap.
By the way, its not an ad. I simply mentioned it's available if anyone was interested, which several are so far.
An ad is a thread with the sole purpose of selling an item. This thread is not. Feel free to add to the discussion.
What are your thoughts on the Note vs. the Nexus?
Ok, so I feel that I've ruffled feathers. Will a mod please move this to the for sale forum so I can be a good senior member like I have been since 2006?
That way, XDA homeostasis is reached for all.
Thanks.

There are rumors that the Note is coming to ATT early next year with LTE. Nice, right? Except there is one problem...
They are replacing the Exynos with a Snapdragon S3.
They also had to do this with the Galaxy S2 on T-Mobile because the Exynos chipset apparently has problems playing nicely with high speed networks such as LTE and T-Mobiles 42 Mbps HSPA+ network.
Will make it exceptionally difficult to dev for. And since it's basically a different device with a different SoC, kiss frequent and timely updates goodbye.
If the Note appeals to you, go for it. Just saying, aside from the bigger screen, a S3-verison Note doesn't seem to have any huge advantage over the Nexus.

I've had both. The note is a great device, but IMO the GN is better overall.

I would of gotten a Note instead if it supported t-mobile, sigh.
I'm hoping by the time Note II comes out, samsung will have resolved the shortcomings of exynos' radios as well as samoled+ HD. I will jump all over that.

wonshikee said:
I would of gotten a Note instead if it supported t-mobile, sigh.
I'm hoping by the time Note II comes out, samsung will have resolved the shortcomings of exynos' radios as well as samoled+ HD. I will jump all over that.
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X2
But I do love my galaxy nexus. As someone said, the only average thing about it is the camera
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Aren't you going from a big phone to an even bigger phone? That would drive me crazy plus the stylus is for the 80's.
But honestly? I've been tempted myself. The Note have NFC?

dont you think that note is jut too big? i never got note in my hands, but by comparassions videos on youtube (everything vs note) i get a little scared about how big it is...
also, why do you guys need so fast network for a phone?! 6mb is not good enough? what are you doing that need so high speed? video calling?!

thiagodark said:
dont you think that note is jut too big? i never got note in my hands, but by comparassions videos on youtube (everything vs note) i get a little scared about how big it is...
also, why do you guys need so fast network for a phone?! 6mb is not good enough? what are you doing that need so high speed? video calling?!
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This argument is so old.
People on sprint/verizon don't get 6mbps. It's 1mbps or 4G, which do you think people would obviously prefer (barring battery issues)

Keep unlimited data / verizon and get the Gnex now?

Are the new phones going to crush the gnex / performance wise?
I am sitting on a verizon grandfathered unlimited data plan right now.
Verizon is holding off on its new batch of uber phones until it sets up its tiered data plan, that also will void your unlimited data plan.
Will i be crying like a little baby when june rolls around and the new phones come out and possibly destroy the Gnex?
Or will the S3 and other phun phones be only a small step up in real world performance.
The Gnex is only $199 now on verizon and the extended 2100mah battery is 1/2 off at 24$ ..
Thinking of going the nexus route to keep my unlimited data for a few more years.
Thoughts ?
As you can tell by my sig, im sort of a phone whore.

The reason why many people choose the nexus line is because of the stock android experience. It will also have the largest rom and development support until probably the next nexus. It seems like if you realty want to keep unlimited data then you have to get the nexus. After researching thoroughly I'm sure you'll be more than satisfied.
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With mod use will I be able to make it through a day with the 2200mah battery?
thx for the info.

I personally don't see the newer phones coming at as that much of an upgrade where I would risk losing my unlimited data for.
I get about 24 hours on a charge with over 4 hours of screen time using the 2100mah battery. That's with moderate use and multiple email accounts and the weather widget syncing.

wow
if i could get anywhere near that then i would be very happy.
on my craptacular Droid charge i get about 10 hours with very light usage

Gnex is a nice phone I would grab it and salvage another year or two of unlimited....the new phones will be better....but not by much...especially US versions. On the other hand AOSP on the LTE Gnex is crippled by Verizon and still hasn't even received 4.0.4.....updates are apparently coming through Verizon which to me makes it hardly a "pure Google experience"....so much for the newest version first....sad really...
killing is my business, And business is good.

tylerdurdin said:
Gnex is a nice phone I would grab it and salvage another year or two of unlimited....the new phones will be better....but not by much...especially US versions. On the other hand AOSP on the LTE Gnex is crippled by Verizon and still hasn't even received 4.0.4.....updates are apparently coming through Verizon which to me makes it hardly a "pure Google experience"....so much for the newest version first....sad really...
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At least they won't be installing Touchwiz in a future update... *cough* Samsung Tab *cough* <---- Yes I know it's a Nexus, so that wouldn't happen

KidCuda said:
At least they won't be installing Touchwiz in a future update... *cough* Samsung Tab *cough* <---- Yes I know it's a Nexus, so that wouldn't happen
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Yeah I know..... Sad...... One less rom option. Well I guess if one look can hold you over.... you can choose between a Gnex and a iPhone...... Tough call.
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Hold off until the last minute. If something else cones around before the cut off date, whenever that will be announced, get it. If nothing new or better is available buy the gnex. After the data cap plan goes into effect you can still keep unlimited by not paying for phones on a new contract. Just buy them outright.... which will be expensive.
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tylerdurdin said:
Gnex is a nice phone I would grab it and salvage another year or two of unlimited....the new phones will be better....but not by much...especially US versions. On the other hand AOSP on the LTE Gnex is crippled by Verizon and still hasn't even received 4.0.4.....updates are apparently coming through Verizon which to me makes it hardly a "pure Google experience"....so much for the newest version first....sad really...
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How is it crippled on AOSP? I had IMM76D on it within hours of release. Same with IMM76I. I am guessing that you are referring to the missing proprietaries. Not really a crippling blow, more like a minor inconvenience.
Also, updates don't come from Verizon. Verizon just approves when Google can OTA them.

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How is it crippled on AOSP? I had IMM76D on it within hours of release. Same with IMM76I. I am guessing that you are referring to the missing proprietaries. Not really a crippling blow, more like a minor inconvenience.
Also, updates don't come from Verizon. Verizon just approves when Google can OTA them.
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At this point Verizon is selling Gnexs with 4.0.2.....bugs lag and all. CDMA Nexus is a joke.....not Googles fault but just the same....a fault. I don't see how sitting around waiting for a carrier to approve a update is any different than any other cellphone period. Nexus is supposed to be latest greatest....Verizon has made the Nexus like every other phone....to me that warrants choices. Every phone will be running AOKP so sitting around waiting seems a bit crippling when the ONLY thing you are getting from a Nexus at this point is AOSP.
The advantages the Gnex had on other devices are slowly dwindling away.....I still think it's a nice phone that's why I told him to get it. Maybe you feel its a inconvenience.....I feel its business as usual..... not a "pure Google experience" lol.
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At this point Verizon is selling Gnexs with 4.0.2.....bugs lag and all. CDMA Nexus is a joke.....not Googles fault but just the same....a fault. I don't see how sitting around waiting for a carrier to approve a update is any different than any other cellphone period. Nexus is supposed to be latest greatest....Verizon has made the Nexus like every other phone....to me that warrants choices. Every phone will be running AOKP so sitting around waiting seems a bit crippling when the ONLY thing you are getting from a Nexus at this point is AOSP.
The advantages the Gnex had on other devices are slowly dwindling away.....I still think it's a nice phone that's why I told him to get it. Maybe you feel its a inconvenience.....I feel its business as usual..... not a "pure Google experience" lol.
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True, regarding OTAs, but it is hardly AOSP crippled (so far). As long as US carriers like Sprint, ATT, and Verizon are in control, this is likely not going to change.
There are a lot of issues with OTAs on the Galaxy Nexus. Heck, there are some yakjuxx variants still on 4.0.1. I know I personally didn't buy it for quick stock updates. I have always felt that Android does not fit Verizon's business model. I felt that years ago, and I still think that is the case today.

Unless the GS3 is a winner to you... then no nothing else coming out on VZW will be better than the Galaxy Nexus.. unless you like the Galaxy Note aka "Journey" or the Razr HD that is rumor to be coming out..
But the Nexus will always be better later on this year when "Key Lime Pie" or w/e Google decides to name its next OS Version because those GS3'S and Razr's are going to take ages to get upgraded to 4.2 or 5.0 just like most phones now who is still on ICS.. Leaks will always leak out..
You can keep your unlimited data plan even when VZW change their plans.. you just going to need to buy your next phone full price.. no discounts no upgrades..
anything that will make you sign a new 2 year contract will take you out of the grandfather plan

I just did exactly what the OP is asking. I had the GNEX on release day but had massive signal issues. I went back to my Bionic and waited. Then I tried the gnex again, same issues. I went and got the Razor maxx, great battery life mediocore phone. I just jumped on the GNEX again and third times a charm. I love it. Im running Franco MS3 and AOKP and I get through the day and night no problem.

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I just did exactly what the OP is asking. I had the GNEX on release day but had massive signal issues. I went back to my Bionic and waited. Then I tried the gnex again, same issues. I went and got the Razor maxx, great battery life mediocore phone. I just jumped on the GNEX again and third times a charm. I love it. Im running Franco MS3 and AOKP and I get through the day and night no problem.
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Droid Razr makes me want to cut my wrist. Gnex is FAR superior to that gimmick. Good choice man....don't turn back to the darkside.
killing is my business, And business is good.

Yah, darkside is right.... I left out that I had the iPhone 4 and 4s a few times also.....

eakrish said:
Yah, darkside is right.... I left out that I had the iPhone 4 and 4s a few times also.....
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yah, I was thinking about leaving and jumping on the HTC one X w/ ATT.

JB on Sprint tomorrow

http://www.talkandroid.com/137572-j...y-s-iii-to-start-rolling-out-on-october-25th/
Interesting.
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Looks legit. Dammit.

I heard about the update this afternoon so I ODIN'd back to UCLH9......wishful thinking.

I'm staying up tonight.
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Bet this is gonna end up like ICS for the S2 series. AT&T is gonna be the last to get JB.
Stock ICS on my S3

.... i'm not even a Sprint customer.... but am i the only one who noticed in the screen cap of that message where it says:
"This software update will be pushed to existing Sprint Samsung Galaxy S3 customers over a few week period."
Think if you're staying up all night.... i wouldn't recommend it. haha

elementaldragon said:
.... i'm not even a Sprint customer.... but am i the only one who noticed in the screen cap of that message where it says:
"This software update will be pushed to existing Sprint Samsung Galaxy S3 customers over a few week period."
Think if you're staying up all night.... i wouldn't recommend it. haha
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Well yeah, that's typically how updates roll out. Or at least over a few day period. Not sure if it was that article or another similar one I read but it stated it would likely be week before everyone had the update. On the bright side we will have a solid release for roms, and maybe JB source.
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It's on the open source site already
I didn't confirm but someone else did say this on the sprint forum
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sly-tendencies said:
Bet this is gonna end up like ICS for the S2 series. AT&T is gonna be the last to get JB.
Stock ICS on my S3
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+1 I think Xmas, maybe. ATT is probably going to make sure it performs worse than the iphone now that it has lte.
I have to say though, I'm fairly happy with a mod'd tw and the Google Now for ICS... But I still think the wifi stinks even with uchl9.
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I call BS, there have been ZERO reports of Sprint users actually getting the update on their phones yet:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=10943

stan.s said:
+1 I think Xmas, maybe. ATT is probably going to make sure it performs worse than the iphone now that it has lte.
I have to say though, I'm fairly happy with a mod'd tw and the Google Now for ICS... But I still think the wifi stinks even with uchl9.
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Really? You think AT&T is going to voluntarily make it perform worse than the iPhone? Soooo.... AT&T is the ONLY carrier with the iPhone? I did not know that. Not to mention that i don't recall ever really going into an AT&T store and having an employee walk up to me vigorously promoting the iPhone trying to force me into buying one as if it's the JesusPhone. If they did, i'd walk right the hell out.

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Really? You think AT&T is going to voluntarily make it perform worse than the iPhone? Soooo.... AT&T is the ONLY carrier with the iPhone? I did not know that. Not to mention that i don't recall ever really going into an AT&T store and having an employee walk up to me vigorously promoting the iPhone trying to force me into buying one as if it's the JesusPhone. If they did, i'd walk right the hell out.
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They used to do this when it was exclusive but they don't anymore.

Sir_Brizz said:
They used to do this when it was exclusive but they don't anymore.
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BS... It was the complete opposite. Their profit margins off of the iPhone are slim to none as compared to other phones they sold at the time. Still is that way to this day...

http://www.technobuffalo.com/compan...out-android-4-1-1-jelly-bean-to-galaxy-s-iii/

jb
Hopefully ATT will get JB by next week.

If I could down vote this I would. Freaking people
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elementaldragon said:
Really? You think AT&T is going to voluntarily make it perform worse than the iPhone? Soooo.... AT&T is the ONLY carrier with the iPhone? I did not know that. Not to mention that i don't recall ever really going into an AT&T store and having an employee walk up to me vigorously promoting the iPhone trying to force me into buying one as if it's the JesusPhone. If they did, i'd walk right the hell out.
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Yes, I do. I know for a fact that that iphone customers are the vast majority of the customer base, have been for years now, historically 20 Iphones are sold for every other phone combined. In the last quarter with three months of Android sales with great models like the HTC and GS3, they still sold 5x as many Iphones and the new model was only available for one month.
In addition att tweaks the network and the build.prop in Android to insure that the iphone outperforms other devices (so long as there is capacity). There are known cases where android phones were miss-identified to the network as to their speed capacity. Iphones don't have the new pat apn and using it on a LTE apple device won't get you a network connection.
Simply put ATT doesn’t really care about android phones and only sells them to satisfy a niche market and to fill out price points. They don't have much pull with Apple for bloatware or the timing of updates. The gs3 l9 firmware patch removed 2.4/5ghz switch shows that they want to reduce customers calling to the call center and any confusion people had about the bad wifi performance of the gs3 where one of the fixes was to not scan both bands.
Look at the reduced pricing for the Android phones across the board, they want to move them out. The Sony TL will be released in a couple weeks for $99, already less than the ion was at release. Ion was free at Sony's stores and websites in the last weeks. BB has been selling gs3 for $99; the TL doesn’t stand a chance.
ATT likes to pee into android firmware claiming that it doesn't meet the network standards. Every att branded android firmware update has been delayed by this excuse. Serious bugs, they will fix, it's bad publicity, updated firmware? They rather not, if they don't have to, and the longer they can string it out, the more likely you will upgrade your phone.
It's been reported that they have already gone through 3 firmware betas.
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Calm down. Lol. I don't know what you are talking about. I get great/excellent network performance out of my gs3. I pull 30+ on LTE easily. Soo many conspiracy theories.
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Interesting points, but it seems odd that they would continue to get so many exclusive android devices if they didn't really care about the market or keep that market happy. (galaxy Note, original SGS2, and now HTC one x+ just off the top of my head)
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While stan.s seems to be pushing the theory farther than most, I am glad his theory doesn't include "AT&T is updating their bloatware, blah, blah, blah."
I recently realized that AT&T already released the Galaxy Note II, which comes with Jelly Bean and includes the same three teensy bloatware apps: AT&T Messages, AT&T Hotspot, and AT&T Navigator. They've all been updated for Jelly Bean already.
Something network related seems plausible and that's what the AT&T reps indicated ("a strain on the network"); in fact, they explicitly noted that Sprint's network was much smaller, so the rollout came quicker.

Lollipop Rom

When do you think we will start seeing the first lollipop roms?

jd14771 said:
never, to be honest. This device can barley handle kit kat.
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That doesn't seem reasonable for at least two reasons.
1. I was under the assumption that Lollipop uses less resources than KitKat (that is at least what the propaganda is saying)
2. You have devices like the Incredible and Bionic that are running 4.4.4... our device is much newer and much more powerful than those...
3. I have 4.4.4 running on my device and it seems to be handling it fine....

Its my understanding that Google dropped AOSP source code for CDMA devices (at least the GNex) after 4.2.2 and CM merges have been barely keeping the Sprint GNex in the game. Its a shame too. My Nexus 4 literally had hardware problems on day 4 making it nothing more than a speakerphone and even with insurance, Google Play wanted to hold $450 on my debit card for 6 weeks while they searched for water or drop damage. That was with insurance. The GNex still feels like a well built device even though the specs aren't the most impressive
I found old Miui and CM7 ROMs buried in my Dropbox for my NS4G so I am going to go old school with that device this weekend just for fun
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1. we will have to wait and see about that.
2. those devices also are not slated to get lolipop.
3.Kitkat for me is not as fast as other phones. Quite laggy if you know where to look. Also- for us to get lolipop- we would need a dev to get drivers and such for out device. Its nearly guaranteed that Samsung is not going to revive this 4 year old device.
ill be upgrading to the note 4. this was just a transition device for me, it wasn't all that impressive.
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I had the Note 2 which was a game changer with the 8 hours of screen time daily even overclocked but passed on the Note 3 and got the HTC One M7 which turned out to be a great move. I SIM unlocked it and Super-CIDed it then switched to the T-Mobile $70 unlimited everything plan and I get LTE averaging 35MB down and 30 up with WiFi calling and text and even pulled 5 days on one charge with 4+ hours of screen time.... but I am going to have to get the Note 4. I have been waiting for a more sturdy metallic feeling device from Samsung... I just don't know if I should use one of my 2 Sprint upgrades I have sitting here or go with the T-Mobile version. GSM devices get so much more Dev support

This made it look more promising than before.
But I've been around old phones where hope is lost but some Dev somewhere takes on a challenge and makes it work. Whether or not this happens no one will know for sure... The point is though, there is hope and if you want it that badly there's always the opportunity to learn something new. Heck, my old HTC Hero had some ICS builds, they sucked but...

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Upgrading to the note 4 on sprint is like going to prom with your sister. And not even your hot sister, i'm talking meg from family guy sister. Verizon is next for me. Unbeatable coverage. You pay for it but i'm sick of dead zones and losing coverage when its cloudy. And the development on sprint devices has been dwindling for some time.
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Yeah that's why I have been sitting on 2 Sprint upgrades for over a year now...Sprint's Tri-Band LTE speeds are mediocre and I am in a prime coverage area meanwhile my $70 unlimited everything T-Mobile HTC One M7 is blazing fast all of the time...
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I don't see this being impossible, I mean I have the G1 and someone got freaking JB on that at one point, I run 4.0 with only moderate lag on the thing. I think people just keep talking around the elephant in the room, the TI OMAP, because it doesn't have drivers...well neither did a lot of phones, for a lot of stuff. A "thanks" bounty and a donation to whoever gets this working :fingers-crossed:

Verizon is terrible in my area. Sprint was much better. It matters where you are. I'll try us cellular when my current contract is up.

jd14771 said:
Upgrading to the note 4 on sprint is like going to prom with your sister. And not even your hot sister, i'm talking meg from family guy sister. Verizon is next for me. Unbeatable coverage. You pay for it but i'm sick of dead zones and losing coverage when its cloudy. And the development on sprint devices has been dwindling for some time.
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This is EXACTLY the way I feel. Hello Nexus 6 Verizon. See you later Sprint!

uconnpat said:
When do you think we will start seeing the first lollipop roms?
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When you step up and build one.

jd14771 said:
Lol, have you seen the new commercials saying the unlimited plan is back? i don't think ive ever pulled more than 4gb from sprint on a heavy month because the speeds are so slow. If only people knew.
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I just seen it the other day. If I'm on 3G I can't do anything internet related....At all. Play store can't display anything, the browser won't load pages and some apps that require data will say they need an internet connection. Speeds are equal to AOL if not worse. 4G on the other hand is not bad. It can be better but I can at least do everything I need to.

Zeinzu said:
When you step up and build one.
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The source isn't available yet, though

dreamwave said:
The source isn't available yet, though
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Was simply my inb4 response.

They're coming soon! MWisBest posted this in his OmniRom threads

jd14771 said:
Lol, have you seen the new commercials saying the unlimited plan is back? i don't think ive ever pulled more than 4gb from sprint on a heavy month because the speeds are so slow. If only people knew.
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unfortunately, I used 55-65GB per month, so I can't leave Sprint. $50 per month.... just can't make a justification for changing. My service where I live is pretty good and i have LTE coverage everywhere but where I actually live... lol. but they gave me an air-rave to provide me a 3G signal, but I use Wifi for anything data at home.

Did this whole thing just turn into a sprint trolling thread? If so, please continue! This is the most productive thing I've seen all day!
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Zeinzu said:
When you step up and build one.
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It would be nice to see lollipop on the old G-Nex, especially as 5.0 uses less resources than KitKat, apparently...

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It would be nice to see lollipop on the old G-Nex, especially as 5.0 uses less resources than KitKat, apparently...
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I was hoping some devs still had the Galaxy Nexus lying around and built some lollipop ROMs for it. The Evo 4G LTE runs incredibly fast and smooth with Lollipop. I am actually moving that device up to 5.1.1 today which is a more current Android version then my M9 currently has running on it
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