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How do we better our camera?

Is it just a horrible camera or is it something that can be fixed through software? I have 7 friends with evo's we will all put up $50/ea or so some im sure will pay more to the developers paypal account if we can get better picture quality on the front and back cameras.... Please we are begging ANYONE who can do it i will pay the bounty to.

You would probably have better luck spending that $50 on photography lessons or buying some decent post-processing software. Firmware isn't going to make you or your friends any better photgraphers.

I used my Evo while on vacation, and a good quality point and shoot. Both cameras took equally great pictures. Try to limit the use of the zoom, as it doesn't turn out well.
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as a former pro photographer. (not tooting my horn, just explaining)
QUALITY comes from both the photographer and the camera. More megapixels doesnt mean better QUALITY. it means larger IMAGE. you want better QUALITY get a larger SENSOR, notice the words in caps here people.
Some facts about the camera, from what i can tell by use, not spec sheets, if someone wants to provide one that'd be great, i didnt find one, but i didnt look too hard.
Its a telezoom lens, meaning it has focal length (mm #) greater (AFAICT) than that of the human eye. minimum focus distance is about 6-8" and its got a digital zoom (bleh).
Digital zoom for those that dont know will crop out part of the photo and enlarge the rest, digitally. Which is fine up to a point, after this point you end up with pixelation and bleh images.
As for taking better pictures, go read some rules on composition (the rule of thirds) and if its your cup of tea color scheme and color interaction.
Ive taken some nice photos with this camera. Just a nice rooftop with some desaturation. BAM
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i just dont see why we would have to photoshop our pictures to make them look better the brights are to bright the darks are to dark its just foolishness the only downside i have with this phone is the camera/picture quality

mikeyfg said:
i just dont see why we would have to photoshop our pictures to make them look better the brights are to bright the darks are to dark its just foolishness the only downside i have with this phone is the camera/picture quality
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who said anything about photoshop. that was in camera. if the highs/lows are too much, check your settings.
If you want i have plenty of other samples. Go back, read my previous reply, you might learn something.

nenn said:
who said anything about photoshop. that was in camera. if the highs/lows are too much, check your settings.
If you want i have plenty of other samples. Go back, read my previous reply, you might learn something.
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Is there a good online resource for learning to set white balance adjustments and those sort of things on a camera? I've always had a fascination with photography, but I admit I use P&S and automatic settings because I have no idea what those settings do...

fldash said:
Is there a good online resource for learning to set white balance adjustments and those sort of things on a camera? I've always had a fascination with photography, but I admit I use P&S and automatic settings because I have no idea what those settings do...
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the best resource to learn how to change those settings honestly is your camera manual. the next best resource to learn how they work, is to play with them.
a good book will teach you the basics. The Photographers handbook 3rd Edition is the book i used and it will teach you a ton about manual settings and basic SLR/dSLR usage. not to mention film development and i think printing technique.

I leave the iso on 100 all the time (less grain), and toggle back and forth on WB, daytime for outside pics and auto for everything else.

i have no problem with the camera i toy with the settings and take some really good photos with my camera !
not sure what people are *****ing about

Also maybe a higher class memory card

I'll have to agree with the OP. The camera on the Evo is really a let down. They got us excited with the 8 megapixel hype but it really was a let down. Same thing with the camera on the Hero. Honestly I think my Pre takes clearer pictures. It's not even in the same class as the iPhone 4 and this is coming from somebody who has bashed it since day one, but after looking at some pics and videos taken from my friend's iPhone I was literally blown away. Couldn't believe they came from a phone and not a expensive digital camera. HTC dropped the ball in that department.

Iphone has a better screen, have y'all tried cm roms, his camera app is way better than sense

im on cm6 rc2 still grainy no matter what...

My mistake his video camera app is better, there's people working on it I'm sure, I don't think its too bad myself

mikeyfg said:
im on cm6 rc2 still grainy no matter what...
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No way, lower your ISO to 100 (top config button, scroll down). Clean is day.

The camera is that bad? Really?
Here's a pic I took at Niagara Falls:
http://tinypic.com/m/be99qq/3
I'm FAR from a photographer, but some of the pics I get are at least as good as an entry level point and shoot - which is more than I expected out of it.
Some tips I have:
-make sure you are holding the phone still so the autofocus can adjust properly.
-after you hit the shutter button, make sure you hold still until it's really done taking the picture otherwise you may blur the image

fldash said:
No way, lower your ISO to 100 (top config button, scroll down). Clean is day.
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Where do you see ISO?
my top config button displays Focus Mode and Exposure.
I'm also on CM6 nightlies
Thanks

That menu scrolls down.
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Scroll down inside that setting box, there are tons of settings inside that top box...

How good is the camera?

I am thinking of getting a Defy as a free upgrade to my Hero. Reviews of camera seem mixed but general impression is that it's not brilliant, especially in low light. Interested to hear the views of people here.

You can compare the photos from defy with various other phones, including N8, iPhone4 on gsmarena site. Just click on some of the latest reviews, doesnt matter which phone, and go to the camera section of the review. There is a photo compare tool.

Thanks. That was helpful but I am more interested in the low light performance.

Neo Cortex said:
Thanks. That was helpful but I am more interested in the low light performance.
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I was pleasantly suprised with the quality of the flash. up to a metre or 2 it is very effective and doesn't wash out the photo like some others. All in all I am pleases with the camera - thats just my opinion though.

Thanks. I am almost certainly going to get one. The nagging doubt in the back of my mind is the speaker issue. Difficult to know how much of a problem it really is. People who don't have the issue (obviously) don't post to forums

None of those Cell Cameras are that cool in low light compared to a DSLR. What would really help is a camera app that writes out a dng file so that one can properly posprocess this in say Lightroom/Photoshop/Noiseware.
Just for completeness shake, the camera module seems to be a MT9PT012 ...

Higgsy said:
I was pleasantly suprised with the quality of the flash. up to a metre or 2 it is very effective and doesn't wash out the photo like some others. All in all I am pleases with the camera - thats just my opinion though.
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IMHO - flash and camera is pretty awful. Here's a shot with flash, I even gave it +20 brightness in Gimp:
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Then again, I might be spoiled by these babies:
Ironically - That was shot with my HTC Desire
I guess the Defy's camera is just below cell-phone average. It should't be your only camera, but for "Hey this looks fun!" shots it'll do fine.

I really like my defy but, honestly, the camera is not the best part.
Also the display looks not so brilliant as the desire's one.
I'm not saying they're bad, just they're not wonderful, but considering defy's price it's absolutely fair.

Well, one thing none of the others can do is H2Oing it. I just filmed in water, definitely better results than any other phone attempting the same

I'm using the Camera360 app. There is a filter called "Effect enhancement". If i you this one, the pictures look better - the ones taken in short range. Ok, they do look a bit "artifical", but for me its ok. There is a "free" version of that app for trying out...
The Defy is not the first Android i bought, but it will be the first Android, which will not be sold again. I really like this phone...
Maybe there will be some kind of camera-optimization. Until then, i will take my digi-cam for "more important" pictures to make.
Best regards
Stefan

Here is sample picture, resized, with flash and taken with camera360 app.

This was taken with a Galaxy S
This was taken with the Defy, different day so not a direct comparison. The weather was worse and it was cloudy. Hope this give you an idea of comparison though.
Defy on macro with flash
Defy with macro no flash. Shows good detail.
thanks

Photos aren't that great but they're not awful. I do find that the built in editing (kodak perfect touch) does an excellent job though. The macro mode and color reproduction aren't as good as my vibrant. But overall im satisfied.
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disturkis4u said:
Photos aren't that great but they're not awful. I do find that the built in editing (kodak perfect touch) does an excellent job though. The macro mode and color reproduction aren't as good as my vibrant. But overall im satisfied.
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yeah I agree that kodak perfect touch enhancement works well

What about Videos in 720p ?
Anyone succeed to take videos in 720p with Froyo 2.2 ?

have you tryed the kodak perfect touch option?? It's excelent! for night pics, and remember to use the "night" mode in dark places
imo, It's good++

I took pictures with it for the first time today. I did not like the quality of the pictures. My first impressions:
Pros: The LED flash is bright and puts my old BB Curve to shame. You could use it to blind a night time attacker if you could instantly turn it on with an external button.
The interface to take pictures is pretty good and easy to use.
Cons:
-Colors are muddy and off color even when shot outdoors.
-Colors with the flash are not automatically corrected and show up with the blue/white color cast of the LED flash.
-Color space compression is very noticable with banding visible under various conditions.
-Slow to take a picture because it does not focus until you click the onscreen button to take the photo.
I thought video was better on balance than the camera but it is rather poor in low light (as expected). I hope that I will learn to get better results with it after more testing but I'm glad it's not a primary reason for me to own the Defy.
-felipe

What about 720p videos?
Could someone try it?with froyo??

I found the camera pretty good in comparaison of my old phone.
But there's a hudge miss on the native camera app: you cannot change the JPG compression and by default it's very very compressed! Some have their 5Mpxl pictures that takes around 300kB (it should be 1.5MB at least!).
Maybe if someone know a way to change this settings it would be nice for improving the quality of the final picture

I really like the Vignette app for the camera, it's old school styles go rather well with the "performance" of the camear

Share your Photosphere Experiences (jb 4.2 cam)

Hi,
you are using the JB 4.2 camera app (available here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1966313 ) and you got photosphere working without FC, please share your results.
Here are mines so far, very much useless :'(
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Inside in a small area (quite interesting with all the lines on the ceiling)

Today I learned that the Photo Sphere feature from the new Jelly Bean 4.2 is no better than what we'd already had on our One X's since forever.

svucinic811 said:
Today I learned that the Photo Sphere feature from the new Jelly Bean 4.2 is no better than what we'd already had on our One X's since forever.
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difference is panoramic is 360 degrees but in a circular motion. photosphere would be in a spherical motion, thus covering a larger area.
however, i didn't like the outcomes though.
I am quite excited though, to see the implementations of the user interface(the one finger gestures) in sense. That would be awesome

Running maXimus v5 and everything works perfect. After flashing, I got a new camera app and a new gallery app. Opened photosphere and snapped my whole living room without difficulties. Photo was saved on sdcard/DCIM/Camera, jpg format. Understandably, the image is flat when viewed on my desktop but viewing it on the gallery app that was installed with the jb 4.2 camera, it can be viewed with sphere scrolling. Need to note that my battery turned from 33 degree celsius to 45 after two minutes of using the camera!!

I presume you can only view the "sphere" properly with the gallery app that's included, so posting it here won't allow other users see the effect
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Imagination goes a long way. Of course it's better to view it to the original gallery app but the stitches seen on the flat render stays ugly. I like where this is going, though.

mwilky said:
I presume you can only view the "sphere" properly with the gallery app that's included, so posting it here won't allow other users see the effect
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Hmm, yeah that makes sense. Now I remember seeing that in that video on the Verge.

The stitching quality is very disapointing even withe the gallery app i still view it flat :sly:
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Stitching will always be worse for nearby objects than distant ones. This tool is useful for landscape panos, not in your living room.
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Mine crashes right after taking the first photo. I cannot figure out why and I've reflashed but no luck.
Any ideas?
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nvm, I've seen that it is a problem with CM10.

It doesn't work yet as it should. I have tried .zip from link above same version from the same position with One X and S3. Feeling during taking photos and results are completely different. It feels like One X sensors are misbehaving.
I'm using OrDroid 7.1.0 (1.31 hboot).

here are some fair examples, didn t knew that google + had a player for photoshpere..
http://www.androidcentral.com/check-out-these-awesome-photo-sphere

i think i must have applied a picaso patch somehow...

I am looking forward to this, I really hope that the one touch menu gets implemented into Sense.
Wonder how these would look on the HTC DNA/J Butterfly screens...

It must be that you guys just take bad pictures, here's a full 360.
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diego9x said:
It must be that you guys just take bad pictures, here's a full 360.
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a) As I've pointed out numerous times, panoramas have a problem with nearby subjects because of parallax. Your subjects are mostly far away, and don't have clearly-defined edges which are obscuring more distant scenery, hence parallax is less of an issue. That makes this about as easy a subject as you could hope for. Doubly so since the sky is overcast and so the exposure level doesn't vary so much from frame to frame.
http://www.panoguide.com/howto/panoramas/parallax.jsp
b) There are clear stitching errors in your pano, too. Surprisingly many, actually, given how far away the subject is. Open the thumbnail below to see some of them circled. There are more, I'm sure, but I got bored of finding and circling them. Some are worse then others, for example the repeated treelines, repeated island, blurred island edge, and the zig-zagging horizon.

I'll add, by the way, that the stock HTC 2D pano tool is also absymal. It appears to make absolutely no effort to warp images, and simply aligns and fades them instead, leading to clear zig-zags in what should be straight lines like horizons.
The thing is, much MUCH better results should be possible. Attached is a pano shot not with the HTC One X, but with my Sony RX100 compact camera. (I've resized it to the same height as your pano.) It's a much more challenging subject, although nowhere near as bad as expecting to get a decent pano standing in the middle of a small room.
My image is -- other than brightness / contrast / color adjustment because there was a strong difference in exposure level and the bright sun / water biased the exposure too dark -- straight out of camera. No hand-tweaking of alignment was done, nor any local retouching of any kind.
It's stitched by the camera itself, which doubtless has a far less powerful processor than the HTC One X does. If the Sony can do this, the HTC One X should be able to do far better -- but so far it can't.

wrong nexus
Hey guys,
i've been trying to use photosphere for a couple of days on my Nexus S with custom ROM Xylon (android 4.2.1)
and i miss some things like the ability to share the pano to google maps, and also when i touch the edit icon (3-circle-venn), i get the "you don't have any app to complete this action" message.
As soon as i heard of the G+ player, i tried sharing it on g+ and here's the result (after trying many times):
plus[dot]google[dot]com/photos/115668189587438646263/albums/5824906965871823873/5824906969810603650
although i wanted something like this:
plus[dot]google[dot]com/photos/110023707389740934545/albums/5808606988734372865/5808606991682743250
(couldn't post links because it's my first post, sorry.)
could anybody help in this point? thanks in advance.
also: how to do that little planet effect? (i suppose it's on that EDIT button)

Hey, guys!
I found this lwp with lots of free HD photospheres.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hamsterbeat.wallpapers.fx.sphere

Keeps throwing "Google Services" FC on me, but the camera itself keeps running and works fine :-O Awesome!
Edit: Here's my deck

Should I buy - coming from Nexus 5

I have a opportunity to get a good deal on one. Should I buy?
I have a nexus 5 that I love, but I want more battery life. I have two small children that I take pictures of, so most pictures would be close range. Camera adequate for that?
I tried the OnePlus One. I liked it, but it was a little big, and the camera wasn't fast enough.
I could get it for $100 difference over my nexus 5.
Thoughts?

Of you want to keep it stock battery life isn't that great but if you go gpe or flash nocturnals gpe ROM battery life will be great

I usually switch phone every 6 months but this phone, I cant find another one that can beat it...but thats just my usage.

If this was a few months ago, I would say yes but kinda hard to recommend right now with the newer crop of phones out or coming soon. The Z3 would probably be the biggest contender with an excellent camera and crazy battery life.
I bought the N5 on release day and had it till about a month ago. Used Sense on the M8 for a day and found it laggy in some places so I converted it to GPE and that only lasted a couple of days cause it just didn't feel as smooth as stock N5.
Went back to Sense but a couple of days ago reconverted to GPE again and this time it feels smoother.
Maybe it only feels this way in comparison to Sense or that I have forgotten how fluid the N5 was but I'm not complaining. I got the M8 as a stop-gap phone until the N6 release but looks like I may have to stick with the M8 cause I can't justify the price of the N6.
HTC One M8

I don't think I would ever buy a Sony phone especially saying they're struggling business wise m8/m8 gpe are the winners
sent from my HTC one m8 google play edition

HTC was struggling profit wise too.
HTC One M8

Previous phone was a Nexus 5 so now owning the HTC ONE M8 is very nice.if you miss the feel of you Nexus just flash GPE

I know people fight about it all the time around here and I'm going to get flamed to death, but if camera is important you'd kinda be nuts to buy this phone. Worst camera I've had in a long time. Look at any head-to-head matchup among modern phones and hte M8 is invariably in last place when it comes to camera.

thebobmannh said:
I know people fight about it all the time around here and I'm going to get flamed to death, but if camera is important you'd kinda be nuts to buy this phone. Worst camera I've had in a long time. Look at any head-to-head matchup among modern phones and hte M8 is invariably in last place when it comes to camera.
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Fire ! Fire !
It's all good but compared to the Nexus 5 it is a better richness to the quality of pictures. And the forward facing takes really clear pics [emoji111]

jball said:
Fire ! Fire !
It's all good but compared to the Nexus 5 it is a better richness to the quality of pictures. And the forward facing takes really clear pics [emoji111]
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The forward facing cam is definitely good. The rear.... not so much.

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Came from the Nexus 5 as well. Miss the size of the Nexus but the pros of the M8 definitely outweigh the cons of it compared to the N5. If you're bored, go ahead and switch.

aamirani said:
Came from the Nexus 5 as well. Miss the size of the Nexus but the pros of the M8 definitely outweigh the cons of it compared to the N5. If you're bored, go ahead and switch.
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Disable the softkeys and use pie controls to pick up screen size [emoji111]

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Adorable. She looks around the same age as my daughter.
I'm not really crazy about quality of pictures, but speed of the camera. With my kids constantly moving, it's nice to capture something without much blur. Does the camera work well for that?

Yes but you can video and save stills if you have to

Stock can have as great battery life as any rom. In fact, depending on your usage and setup, it makes no difference what rom you use... Stock ... Gpe... Aosp.
If you really want good battery life, do everything (or as much as you want to) in post 2 in the battery thread in my signature.
Here's my results... Stock based Sense rom. And stock kernel. (note the average times at bottom of the shot... Not just a good day.... The norm.)
No, N5 is no where near the M8 on battery life... Potentially.

HTC 10 Camera Updates

I was thinking to buy HTC 10 very soon, and i have watched many reviews about this phone and they all just the same. The main flaws of HTC 10 is the camera. And i just know that there's several updates from HTC regarding it HTC 10 and camera.
So i things i want to ask is, considering its update, is there any improvements on the camera? and is it still worth to buy?
Thanks!

isssaputra said:
I was thinking to buy HTC 10 very soon, and i have watched many reviews about this phone and they all just the same. The main flaws of HTC 10 is the camera. And i just know that there's several updates from HTC regarding it HTC 10 and camera.
So i things i want to ask is, considering its update, is there any improvements on the camera? and is it still worth to buy?
Thanks!
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The camera isn't bad at all and, despite what some might say, it's a lot better than that on the 5X and 6P (I own the 5X). I've found updates to address a lot of my initial complaints with the camera, focusing is a little faster and more reliable now, the camera doesn't prompt you to uncover the AF laser and the app now has more features. The app is kinda slow to launch for some reason, it's not slow by any means, but does hesitate for about 2S which most other phones don't. For comparison, I'll talk about the S7 which is one of the best this year. While the camera isn't as good as the S7 overall, I would say that still image quality is similar, they just process differently. In fact, there are various things the 10 excels at, such as detail retention, which is fantastic for a smartphone, think photos of text and textures, especially in low-light, the 10 is actually better than the S7.
That being said, the S7 both focusses and takes images quicker (though is sometimes slightly noisier). The 10 does have a slightly warmer white balance whereas the S7 looks cleaner but on the cooler side. So the 10 actually looks better for portraits but the S7 is better for indoor shots where the artificial lighting tends to make things look warmer already, the 10 can look almost dirty. I found the latest version of the HTC camera app has alleviated the warm tone slightly and it no longer really bothers me. Detail and processing are all very good and mature, the sensor doesn't support phase detect AF but uses a combination of contrast and laser which works reliably in all lighting situations, phase detect does tend to become unreliable in low light though the 10 isn't actually the greatest low light focusser. Video quality is mediocre on the 10, at least in my experiences, and if you want to take great video, you should probably look into something else. Video is choppy and exposure shifts are pretty chunky when moving from bright to dark areas or vice versa. Outdoors, the phone is better, but the optical stabilisation is weak even if it isn't affected by the jello effect like the S7. Focusing and colour accuracy in video is quite good however.
Since I never use the phone for video it doesn't really bother me and I have a steady hand for stills. The results are mostly great, I'm far less compelled to bring my Sony A6000 along; I always used to feel stranded with my M8 when trying to take good images. The M8 simply didn't have the resolution and dynamic range I needed, the 10 does (but I still use my camera for important events of course). After playing around with some of my friends and relative's phones ('m the designated group photographer), the 10 is definitely one of the better cameras, you just need to keep it still since shutter speeds drop quite low.

And what about the lens flare like on this one? Are experiencing it a lot?
https://www.google.co.id/url?sa=i&r...3lEqCDYYHaVnPEW7wwDwTyiQ&ust=1482901376624797

isssaputra said:
And what about the lens flare like on this one? Are experiencing it a lot?
https://www.google.co.id/url?sa=i&r...3lEqCDYYHaVnPEW7wwDwTyiQ&ust=1482901376624797
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It's pretty normal when the lens is clean, I don't have oily hand so my lens is usually fine, but I do find that the lens does mark up easier than most resulting in flare. That being said, I don't feel bad about rubbing/cleaning the lens since it's sapphire, mine hasn't scratched at all, even after placing the phone on the ground and table, etc. Here's a photo I took a few nights ago, it was completely dark, around 10pm the lighting was facing towards the camera. As you can see flaring was almost non-existent.
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Is that with android N? Because on MM I get quite a bit of lens flare even after I've wiped the lens.