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What IEs do you use? I suppose only a few people use the original PIE - big buggy single-windowed piece of $hit!
I use MultiIE, but it has an annoying bug (coming from PIE it's built on), so I wanted to make my life better...
I tried ftxPBrowser, but it seems to be very far from final yet. Actually, it's HPC version (99kb only :!: ) looks pretty good (in landscape), but doesn't work with PPC2002/WM2003...
Are there any good viewers? Any of them support 640x480 landscape?
People!
What IEs do you use? I suppose only a few people use the original PIE - big buggy single-windowed piece of $hit!
I use MultiIE, but it has an annoying bug (coming from PIE it's built on), so I wanted to make my life better...
I tried ftxPBrowser, but it seems to be very far from final yet. Actually, it's HPC version (99kb only :!: ) looks pretty good (in landscape), but doesn't work with PPC2002/WM2003...
Are there any good viewers? Any of them support 640x480 landscape?
hi all,
Posting here because I'm not allowed (yet) to post in the dev thread.
I flashed sandvolds's ICS for desire 0.4.4, pretty much everything works perfectly as advertised, great rom. The only issue I have so far is the keyboard which is less responsive than my old stock sense 2.2 keyboard. I tried with both the stock ICS keyboard and the hacker's keyboard, same result, the keyboard misses keystrokes as soon as I try to type faster.
I saw someone in the dev thread experienced the same problem, is it a known issue and did someone find a solution to this ?
will3b said:
hi all,
Posting here because I'm not allowed (yet) to post in the dev thread.
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Thank God.
will3b said:
I flashed sandvolds's ICS for desire 0.4.4, pretty much everything works perfectly as advertised, great rom. The only issue I have so far is the keyboard which is less responsive than my old stock sense 2.2 keyboard. I tried with both the stock ICS keyboard and the hacker's keyboard, same result, the keyboard misses keystrokes as soon as I try to type faster.
I saw someone in the dev thread experienced the same problem, is it a known issue and did someone find a solution to this ?
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I use swiftkey, use SetCPU to OC to 1113Mhz and see no issues with typing.
thanks for the reply.
I just tried with swiftkey, it does not seem to be much better. Overclocking the CPU does not change anything either, but I guess 1Ghz should be enough for touch input.
I forgot to tell in the first post that I did a "standard" install of ICS (no custom kernel), and just ran the a2sd script after install as advised.
I tried again to compare the stock and hacker's keyboards, and the results are not exactly the same : the stock keyboard simply misses keystrokes when typing gets quicker, whereas the hacker's keyboard feels more responsive but gets *incorrect* key strokes, which is a bit weird : if I type, slowly and one key after another, an 'i' and a 'd' for example, I get the expected text but if I type the same sequence faster I get "ad". Maybe a multitouch issue ?
will3b said:
thanks for the reply.
I just tried with swiftkey, it does not seem to be much better. Overclocking the CPU does not change anything either, but I guess 1Ghz should be enough for touch input.
I forgot to tell in the first post that I did a "standard" install of ICS (no custom kernel), and just ran the a2sd script after install as advised.
I tried again to compare the stock and hacker's keyboards, and the results are not exactly the same : the stock keyboard simply misses keystrokes when typing gets quicker, whereas the hacker's keyboard feels more responsive but gets *incorrect* key strokes, which is a bit weird : if I type, slowly and one key after another, an 'i' and a 'd' for example, I get the expected text but if I type the same sequence faster I get "ad". Maybe a multitouch issue ?
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Not a multitouch issue, it's still just slow. If you need a really fast ROM use devnull, I was actually quite impressed with stock android. Boots hella fast, and is very smooth.
If you're a fast typer - ICS for Bravo is basically not for you. If you must use it, just use the great predictive text swiftkey provides.
Hello,
I was very very excited about the news that CM9 now supports HWA and so is fully compatible with our beloved Defy.
After reading all the positive comments about no bugs, no lags, everything great, I installed it myself (from scratch) and must say that I was disappointed.
I used CM7 for a long time and it is still not bug free, but CM9 is far from RC or Stable I must say.
- boot time is long.
- Apps need much time to load
- overall snappieness is not as great as discribed
- quite a few apps do not respond and hang with a pop-up window about WAIT/KILL/REPORT
What I would like to know is: What is the advantage of CM9/ICS over CM7/GB?
What I love about ICS is the much more mature UI.
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Collected PRO's:
- ability to display (and change) all volume controls at the same time
- better Apps, in some cases (e.g. GMail)
- much nicer folders (haven't found a launcher with similar feature for CM7)
- display of recent apps/running apps A LOT better
- ICS controls look and work better (e.g a scrolling wheel for time selection)
- mature UI
Well, the cm9 the way it is today is a very initial port for a device that was in every way locked down from motorola for it does not exist and devs heroically tried to overcome difficulties.
It is not even a RC yet. So if you say cm7 is faster, more stable, better battery performance, you are probably correct, because its development is more mature . But why the the hell you are comparing them? What's your point in saying you are disappointed with the CM9?
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yes, so far, cm9 is not mature, you can stick to cm7 for a while then come back
why do I compare two versions of a firmware, well, I'd like to know the true advantages over cm7 so I can decide if its worth using it. i tried it and for now i think stableism is more important... but i'll be to curious soon anyway.
cm7 rocks
Ive been testing cm9 with and without HWA, both eppys and fuzz's builds. This weekend i decided to try Fuzz's cm7. I cant find any bugs and I was shocked at how much faster it was and scrolling home screens is smoother ( i use Mihome launcher with the superb leather theme! ). I wont be switching to cm9.... but cm10 is another matter.
gator123 said:
Ive been testing cm9 with and without HWA, both eppys and fuzz's builds. This weekend i decided to try Fuzz's cm7. I cant find any bugs and I was shocked at how much faster it was and scrolling home screens is smoother ( i use Mihome launcher with the superb leather theme! ). I wont be switching to cm9.... but cm10 is another matter.
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I am expecting cm10 too, lol
benny856694 said:
I am expecting cm10 too, lol
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me too... I was dissapointed about CM9 too, because i thought it would be faster with the HWA enabled but it didn't happen. You're right when you say the UI looks more mature than gb's one (in fact i LOVE the ics UI). I hope all the bugs can be fixed and have a good ROM after all.
Have you guys tried the fast black edition 1.2???
Best and fastest ICS i´ve used. There should be a new version coming soon, since 1.2 is before de HWA stuff.
Trying to summarize, why I favor CM9 over CM7, despite the shortcomings:
- ability to display (and change) all volume controls at the same time
- better Apps, in some cases (e.g. GMail)
- much nicer folders (haven't found a launcher with similar feature for CM7)
- display of recent apps/running apps A LOT better
I'm sure I'm forgetting something here... but anyway, that's what's important for me.
Some of you guys are missing the point of a development forum badly as well as what cm9 port represents. Are you disappointed, seriously?
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I was disappointed because expectations were high due to overly optimistic comments in the according threads.
On the other hand I am very thankful that we have the opportunity to use and test ICS and performance and bugs get better eventually... I hope so!
Sincerely.
measel said:
I was disappointed because expectations were high due to overly optimistic comments in the according threads.
On the other hand I am very thankful that we have the opportunity to use and test ICS and performance and bugs get better eventually... I hope so!
Sincerely.
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Yes, we're complaning about "minimal bugs" compared with other devices which can't run ICS from the start...
They said they're working to release a RC so... we'll wait
Mettanine said:
Trying to summarize, why I favor CM9 over CM7, despite the shortcomings:
- ability to display (and change) all volume controls at the same time
- better Apps, in some cases (e.g. GMail)
- much nicer folders (haven't found a launcher with similar feature for CM7)
- display of recent apps/running apps A LOT better
I'm sure I'm forgetting something here... but anyway, that's what's important for me.
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I agree and want to add:
+ ICS controls looks and works better - E.g a Scrolling wheel for time selection
Jelly bean going source today..
I would anytime go on CM9 then CM7 for the obvious reason that it looks beautiful and I love the settings page of it! It has good features. I have a neo V so I know what it feels to have ICS on your device
Mettanine said:
Trying to summarize, why I favor CM9 over CM7, despite the shortcomings:
- ability to display (and change) all volume controls at the same time
- better Apps, in some cases (e.g. GMail)
- much nicer folders (haven't found a launcher with similar feature for CM7)
- display of recent apps/running apps A LOT better
I'm sure I'm forgetting something here... but anyway, that's what's important for me.
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Exactly. I almost considered switching back to CM7 until CM9 was a bit more polished, but I realized I'd loose out on the MUCH SUPERIOR gmail app, and others, as well as the refinements in settings and controls.
For the record, anyone looking for a nearly identical ICS launcher (to trebuchet) for CM7 should give Holo Launcher a try. In many ways, it is more feature rich than trebuchet. I couldn't link to the play store page. (new user)
Are there any of the Lollipop builds in which the S-Pen has functionality other than being just a regular stylus or pointing device?
First of all, the only function of the SPen is to work as a stylus(Active digitizer). Everything else is a rom feature/functionality implemented by an app, not the pen.
Answering your question; sadly, not completely:
- Even the acclaimed rayman cyangenmod cm12.1 still lacks pen functionalities as it doesn't recognizes the eraser on more professional wacom pens(even from Samsung ones dedicated to our tablet specifically).
- Temask Rom is doing a very good work adding some personalization to the possible pen gestures and behaviors but nothing as far as creating an stylus experience as Samsung does with all the apps Samsung brings to the table.
- As far as i know, only touchwiz based roms have those stylus dedicated apps you are searching for as part of the rom.
The thing is, installing Roms such as CM or Temask CM is done to get rid of the Samsung Touchwiz environment with all its gimicks and features. People that flash this kind of roms are searching for, at least for now, a nexus tablet that has a digitizer to draw/sketch. I get that some Samsung features are useful, but many of us think that the lot of them makes the device lagy and only a low percentage are worth it.
This said, there are only two options, your feature needs are covered by third party apps, which are very rare, or you have to stay with touchwiz based roms.
To give you a list of the third party apps that are available visit this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2641400
Check if they cover your needs to see if changing roms is worth it for you. :good:
What we can hope for the feature:
If we can get an app on cyanogenmod source to add better API for the stylus(Attach/Detach Gestures, On/Off Digitizer, Hover+ButtonClick, Double Tap, Tap/Button Click, etc) developers would be able to make marvels out of it and make apps that compare and surpass Samsung implementation for features(Quicker, personalized and not making the device laggy); most importantly making it universal for any rom based on CM(Which are a lot). Currently we have CM SPen Addon: the downsides: you have to pay to get all the features and if you make an app out of it, the user would have to download 2 apps or more to make it work.
There is also a great project here in xda, beta status, that is trying to add some functionalities such as the action menu and screenshot noting. I dont know how it is going because i am not a beta tester of it but looks promising. The downside again, even if they do it incredibly well; the project doesn't add anything to the table for a "universal" API so it is not going to make more apps "pop up" for the device, you are stuck relying on them for more solutions. If anyone had the link, please post it.
I hope I took into perspective what non Touchwiz roms are at the moment, what they are going to be in the near future and what they can be if things play well. :good:
Thanks for all of the information. Definitely something to think about. The feature of the touchwiz roms that I use is the s-pen functionality. The rest of it I don't care for and I freeze as much as I can.
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Thanks for all of the information. Definitely something to think about. The feature of the touchwiz roms that I use is the s-pen functionality. The rest of it I don't care for and I freeze as much as I can.
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Yep, that i why i use cm. I would barely use touchwiz features and they would lag a lot when i did so i stopped using them. I changed to cm and i have never looked back. The only thing is that GPU is not optimized optimized at the moment so some things show graphical glitches and stuff. Don't know i that is going to get fixed soon, or ever for that matter. I use this tablet as a netflix-notebook machine and it works just fine.
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Are there any of the Lollipop builds in which the S-Pen has functionality other than being just a regular stylus or pointing device?
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There is also LiquidSmooth. It has the same S-Pen features as temasek ROM but it is based on Slim ROM which is very battery efficient. Only feature I miss from TW is multi window, but this is made better by the stylus gestures.
LiquidSmooth maintainer for d2usc/vzw & p600
Pazzu510 said:
First of all, the only function of the SPen is to work as a stylus(Active digitizer). Everything else is a rom feature/functionality implemented by an app, not the pen.
Answering your question; sadly, not completely:
- Even the acclaimed rayman cyangenmod cm12.1 still lacks pen functionalities as it doesn't recognizes the eraser on more professional wacom pens(even from Samsung ones dedicated to our tablet specifically).
- Temask Rom is doing a very good work adding some personalization to the possible pen gestures and behaviors but nothing as far as creating an stylus experience as Samsung does with all the apps Samsung brings to the table.
- As far as i know, only touchwiz based roms have those stylus dedicated apps you are searching for as part of the rom.
The thing is, installing Roms such as CM or Temask CM is done to get rid of the Samsung Touchwiz environment with all its gimicks and features. People that flash this kind of roms are searching for, at least for now, a nexus tablet that has a digitizer to draw/sketch. I get that some Samsung features are useful, but many of us think that the lot of them makes the device lagy and only a low percentage are worth it.
This said, there are only two options, your feature needs are covered by third party apps, which are very rare, or you have to stay with touchwiz based roms.
To give you a list of the third party apps that are available visit this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2641400
Check if they cover your needs to see if changing roms is worth it for you. :good:
What we can hope for the feature:
If we can get an app on cyanogenmod source to add better API for the stylus(Attach/Detach Gestures, On/Off Digitizer, Hover+ButtonClick, Double Tap, Tap/Button Click, etc) developers would be able to make marvels out of it and make apps that compare and surpass Samsung implementation for features(Quicker, personalized and not making the device laggy); most importantly making it universal for any rom based on CM(Which are a lot). Currently we have CM SPen Addon: the downsides: you have to pay to get all the features and if you make an app out of it, the user would have to download 2 apps or more to make it work.
There is also a great project here in xda, beta status, that is trying to add some functionalities such as the action menu and screenshot noting. I dont know how it is going because i am not a beta tester of it but looks promising. The downside again, even if they do it incredibly well; the project doesn't add anything to the table for a "universal" API so it is not going to make more apps "pop up" for the device, you are stuck relying on them for more solutions. If anyone had the link, please post it.
I hope I took into perspective what non Touchwiz roms are at the moment, what they are going to be in the near future and what they can be if things play well. :good:
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So pen presure sensitivity is not implied in such custom ROMS as it is in Touchwiz?
Pen accurate location detección on and over screen, tilt sensitivity and preassure sensitivity ranging from 1 to 0 are hardware-driver based. If the ROM got the drivers and your machine has the digitizer functioning correctly, it is going to work as well as it is intended to. Furthermore, your ROM could or could not implement OS-wide functions to make a better and seamless experience for you and complementing apps. And last but not least, your ROM(like touchwiz) could add unique apps to give a better or worse experience.
TL;DR: You can have a working spen without touchwiz.
Orion116 said:
There is also LiquidSmooth. It has the same S-Pen features as temasek ROM but it is based on Slim ROM which is very battery efficient. Only feature I miss from TW is multi window, but this is made better by the stylus gestures.
LiquidSmooth maintainer for d2usc/vzw & p600
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The xhalo floating windows works pretty well. Needs xposed though.
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arbit12 said:
The xhalo floating windows works pretty well. Needs xposed though.
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I despise xposed?
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