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Keyboard lag in most 2.1 roms

I have been using 2.1 custom roms for a while now, but have now gone back to the latest stock 1.5
I have to say i am loving the quick typing I can now do on the keyboard. And general quick system responses.
What is causing the lag in 2.1 custom roms? As this is making them unusable for me.
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all 2.1 portings are laggy... damn

The main cause of the lag is Haptic feedback - ie the little vibration with each key press. Turn this off if you can live without it and you will get a much faster response.
The other cause of lag is as it searches for suggested words - have a play with the prediction settings to see if that makes a difference.
I have to say that I am utterly happy with VillainRom 5.4. I started autokiller on moderate settings then I used the overclock widget to force it to run at maximum speed when the screen is on and minimum speed when it is off and it works brilliantly. Full complements to the chef!

mr.bang said:
all 2.1 portings are laggy... damn
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when we'll we see a 2.1 rom from you??
i'm under the mr bang 1.7 (too lazy for now to switch to 2.0) and its the fastest i've ever tested ...

drspikes said:
The main cause of the lag is Haptic feedback - ie the little vibration with each key press. Turn this off if you can live without it and you will get a much faster response.
The other cause of lag is as it searches for suggested words - have a play with the prediction settings to see if that makes a difference.
I have to say that I am utterly happy with VillainRom 5.4. I started autokiller on moderate settings then I used the overclock widget to force it to run at maximum speed when the screen is on and minimum speed when it is off and it works brilliantly. Full complements to the chef!
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I did have a little play with the heptic feedback, but to be honest, i didn't really see much difference. Didn't test the prediction settings, didn't think of that, but if it works on the 1.5 stock rom perfectly, without any tinkerings, it should surly be possible with the 2.1 roms.
anyhow, to be honest, although i dont like the market app on 1.5, everything else is great. So i think I am just going to wait now for the official 2.1. I am tired of rom hopping.

drspikes said:
The main cause of the lag is Haptic feedback - ie the little vibration with each key press. Turn this off if you can live without it and you will get a much faster response.
The other cause of lag is as it searches for suggested words - have a play with the prediction settings to see if that makes a difference.
I have to say that I am utterly happy with VillainRom 5.4. I started autokiller on moderate settings then I used the overclock widget to force it to run at maximum speed when the screen is on and minimum speed when it is off and it works brilliantly. Full complements to the chef!
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Even if i turned off the haptic feedback the keyboard is just darn slow....
How can it be that the same suggested words in 1.5/1.6 work so much faster...
Its really annoying that typing is this slow on the 2.1 roms, especially looking at the many sms messages is send
or does anyone have a suggestion for another (quick) keyboard that also has word suggestion/correction???

I found the HTC_IME v24 keyboard to be an improvement on previous ones and usable for me, even with haptic on. But then maybe I don't type as quick as others!

you absolutely have to try villainslide. I pretty much came when I used the keyboard
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without_wings said:
I found the HTC_IME v24 keyboard to be an improvement on previous ones and usable for me, even with haptic on. But then maybe I don't type as quick as others!
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also tried that, it was a small improvement but still can't type more then 2 keys a second

thunderpossuem said:
you absolutely have to try villainslide. I pretty much came when I used the keyboard
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Just curious, was the keyboard the mod version? or was it a clean version?
I have the idea the lag also comes from some of the mods...

i also notice a huge lag when typing on my HTC Hero using VillainRom 5.4, its been like this in 5.2, 5.3 as well. (the only roms ive tested).
Tried turning of the feedback thing, but that didnt help at all.
Quite annoying, can someone try and find a way to fix this ? The rom it self is perfect else.

Hi I'm using the latest better keyboard with sensehero 2.1 I dare say its just as smooth as typing on my itouch: ) give it a shot. It supports multitouch too: )

twit_xp said:
Hi I'm using the latest better keyboard with sensehero 2.1 I dare say its just as smooth as typing on my itouch: ) give it a shot. It supports multitouch too: )
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is it on market? can i just install it?

havocnl said:
is it on market? can i just install it?
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Its a paid app from the market. I think theres a free one month trial version available though

I bought Smart Keyboard Pro and I noticed a difference you can try it out if you want and if you dont like it you can get a refund within 24hrs of purchase

I don't use htc keyboard anymore. Try shapewriter. It's free. It's impressive... A really really fast way to write... Just a couple of minutes to learn how to use...
Try it from market!

Over-sensative track pad

Hey I have used multiple rom's in which the track pad is WAYYY to sensitive. I will swype once and the cursor will go up an entire paragraph. To name a few rom's that do this are cyanogen and miui. But I know its not my phones fault because when I switch to a desire z rom or virtuous rom, it works perfectly. Is there a way to fix this?

The trackpad is like that because it's an AOSP rom. Can't give you a better answer than that, or a solution.

I like it like this. I found it not sensitive enough with Sense. I rather take small swipes than having to take multiple ones to move from a sentence. I guess personal preference. I think maybe the kernel type can also modify it but not sure.
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russphil said:
The trackpad is like that because it's an AOSP rom. Can't give you a better answer than that, or a solution.
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ive noticed that, and im surprised that im the only person to make a thread about it. also its only when im scrolling through text that it freaks out like that. when im using it to scroll through apps on my home screen it acts normally

What version of clockwork are you running? If you are running one of the experimental versions (like 2.5.1.1) the trackball has been going much quicker, but with the older 2.5.0.5 it is a bit slower.

Lcsglvr said:
I like it like this. I found it not sensitive enough with Sense. I rather take small swipes than having to take multiple ones to move from a sentence. I guess personal preference. I think maybe the kernel type can also modify it but not sure.
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i hated my trackpad before i rooted, but when i flashed the desire z and Desire hd rom it was the perfect sensitivity. one flick scrolled through 5 or so letters, i want to know if its code base to see if i can adjust it through the termal emulator

igknighted said:
What version of clockwork are you running? If you are running one of the experimental versions (like 2.5.1.1) the trackball has been going much quicker, but with the older 2.5.0.5 it is a bit slower.
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im running the newest on, i dont think clockwork has anything to do with it. its only like this on miui and cyanogen (from what ive tested)

igknighted said:
What version of clockwork are you running? If you are running one of the experimental versions (like 2.5.1.1) the trackball has been going much quicker, but with the older 2.5.0.5 it is a bit slower.
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I would try this.

[Q] Gingerbread keyboard in XWJV1

Hey guys,
anyone running XWJV1 noticed after installing the gingerbread keyboard that was ported to Froyo, that it doesn't work properly in gingerbread?
The sammy keyboard works good, but the gingerbread keyboard can't cope with typing faster than 1 key per second..
So does anyone has a solution for this, maybe an original gingerbread aosp keyboard that does run like it should?
Thanks,
Jonathan

Guess nobody uses it..
I just installed CM7 keyboard (stock android), but have the same problems.. guess it has something to do with the kernel or something.. the keyboard used to be blazing fast on froyo, now it's a lot slower in response...

I get the same problem it just can't keep up. could it be a memory management problem?
hope its sorted by the official release.
Cant use the stock Samsung keyboard as it makes a sound every click very annoying.

for some strange reason it doesn't support multitouch. this is how i tested it. press and hold any letter then try to press another. if it picks up the other letter while your finger is still on the first then it supports multitouch and if not well it just doesn't keep up with us
i resorted to using better keyboard 8 as an interim fix. swiftkey works well too but i found myself hitting "." instead of space one too many times out of habit. both offer trials so you can test them out.

Trackpad sensitivity

Hello there!
I've been using my Desire Z for a long time but found the trackpad pretty useless. This is because i found the sensitivity for it pretty low so if i want to scroll down on a page it's taking forever. I also noticed if i scroll using a piece of cloth (like my shirt) the scrolling is alot faster and usable. But it's not that nice using cloth all the time.
My girlfriend has just got an new phone the Samsung Galaxy Y Pro. It also has an optical trackpad which is alot faster and usable. Also in the settings there is an option to make the trackpad faster more sensitive.
Is there any kind of application or modification to make the trackpad faster sensitiver or so?
Please let me now .
Regards
Edit: whoops i forgot to add [Q] in the topics name and i have no idea how to edit this.

Finally a topic regarding this issue!
I noticed that using certain (mostly newer, modded - CM7 for example) ROMs, the trackpad responsivess is great.
However, recently I flashed to modded stock ROM (Virtuous G-Lite) and I also find the trackpad quite useless :/
Been searching the internet for reason or solution, but found nothing
Hope to find the answer!

So if the sensitivity differs in different ROMS it's editable in a file or so. So i think it would be possible for an smart developer to create an app that edit's the values in the file to change the sensitivity with a nice slider as GUI.
Hopes it will be there someday .

I could not agree more about the trackpad, it makes me want the responsiveness of my old G1 with the trackball (but that design is prone to fail because moisture/foreign objects can easily get underneath the ball).
Would love to see some sort of customization for trackpad sensitivity become mainstream for custom roms.

I've experienced the same problem with the following ROMs:
CM 7.1.0 Stable
Virtuous v2.0.0
Virtuous G-Lite 1.6
So it's happening on AOSP and Sense based ROMs.

Just flashed G2-Slim 1.2 (see my sig for link), which seems to be the same AOSP ROM as Virtuous G-lite, but the sensitivity responsiviness seems much better.
I have no idea how the hell can it be different..
Maybe different kernels affect this?

I'm also using the G-slim ROM for a couple of days now and besides I really like the ROM the trackpad is indeed faster. But still not as fast as I would like. Let's hope some dev. Check this thread out an can help us what makes the difference in sensitivity for the trackpad!

I remember before back on android 2.2 when using the trackpad through texts depending on how fast I swiped would determine how many letters or words it would move. But now especially with roms like cm7 no matter what it'll only move over 1 letter =/ a setting to adjust sensitivity in future roms would be amazing
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AntSmoove said:
I remember before back on android 2.2 when using the trackpad through texts depending on how fast I swiped would determine how many letters or words it would move. But now especially with roms like cm7 no matter what it'll only move over 1 letter =/ a setting to adjust sensitivity in future roms would be amazing
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That's exactly my problem! I don't want to move one letter if i like to i want to move 5 letters or scroll (fast) to the beginning with the trackpad. Just like it is on blackberry's or on the Samsung Galaxy Y PRO. My girlfriend get's the galaxy y pro on her birthday (27th of December) it runs gingerbread stock and has got an sensitivity option in the settings. Maybe i can break that functionality and put it in our phones. I don't know if it will work tho because the trackpad maybe differs. Still hoping a developer will look at this thread and help us out!

[Q] Android 4.2 and multi-touch gaming issues

Hey everyone, I just had a question, with most Jellybean 4.2 roms I've tried multi-touch has been kind of non-responsive with gaming. I've tried multiple games (Dead Space, Sandbox, Pinball, various SNES Emulators) where whenever I would put more than on finger on it and remove it, both touch points would still act as if I had my fingers on it. It seems as if it doesn't register the two touches as seperate. For example, I was playing Chrono Trigger using an emulator (Snes9ex+ and Snesoid) and in order to run you have to hold down a button and navigate with the directional pad. Whenever I would do this and remove my fingers the chracter would keep moving.
This only seems to happen on 4.2 roms (Evervolv, Mazwoz, Xenon) with any kernel (I used stock, mazwoz, and blackdome). However, Jellybean 4.1 roms seem to work just fine for the most part (Solar Flare, Dirty Unicorn/Diablo) where multi-touch was just fine no issues. There is an app to check multi-touch on the market and when I used that it registered up to 5 points for 4.2 roms and anything else such as pinch-to-zoom in the browser was alright, just seemed to be gaming.
So I was wondering, is this due to the roms or the kernels? Also, is this merely just a downside with porting 4.2 roms to the EVO or just something that hasn't been reported yet?
Thanks everyone, I really appreciate all the work you developers have done.

ohen2494 said:
Hey everyone, I just had a question, with most Jellybean 4.2 roms I've tried multi-touch has been kind of non-responsive with gaming. I've tried multiple games (Dead Space, Sandbox, Pinball, various SNES Emulators) where whenever I would put more than on finger on it and remove it, both touch points would still act as if I had my fingers on it. It seems as if it doesn't register the two touches as seperate. For example, I was playing Chrono Trigger using an emulator (Snes9ex+ and Snesoid) and in order to run you have to hold down a button and navigate with the directional pad. Whenever I would do this and remove my fingers the chracter would keep moving.
This only seems to happen on 4.2 roms (Evervolv, Mazwoz, Xenon) with any kernel (I used stock, mazwoz, and blackdome). However, Jellybean 4.1 roms seem to work just fine for the most part (Solar Flare, Dirty Unicorn/Diablo) where multi-touch was just fine no issues. There is an app to check multi-touch on the market and when I used that it registered up to 5 points for 4.2 roms and anything else such as pinch-to-zoom in the browser was alright, just seemed to be gaming.
So I was wondering, is this due to the roms or the kernels? Also, is this merely just a downside with porting 4.2 roms to the EVO or just something that hasn't been reported yet?
Thanks everyone, I really appreciate all the work you developers have done.
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Well this is a question that is probably asked about twice a week,but the reason for the lag is JB is not and i stress,is not made for the EVO,just not enough memory,also ICS,so you are lucky enough to get good devs that know what their doing with touch response tweaks and such,with ICS,unfortuneately we havent had such luck with JB yet,there are a few tweaks that might help with your lag since you are a gammer.... 4cyl Turbo engine v0.2.2 w/ 150 shot NOS / RTMixManager™2

Diablo67 said:
Well this is a question that is probably asked about twice a week,but the reason for the lag is JB is not and i stress,is not made for the EVO,just not enough memory,also ICS,so you are lucky enough to get good devs that know what their doing with touch response tweaks and such,with ICS,unfortuneately we havent had such luck with JB yet,there are a few tweaks that might help with your lag since you are a gammer.... 4cyl Turbo engine v0.2.2 w/ 150 shot NOS / RTMixManager™2
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Thanks a lot for this, honestly I didn't account it to lag, I just thought it was a bug since everything else was so smooth. Also sorry if this is a common question, I searched around but didn't find anything, thanks a lot for answering though!
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