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cm6 v.s. Fresh 3.2 ?

Ok Im all backed up and ready to give it a go. I just have a few questions.
I don't use the Sense Launcher and have almost nothing on my home screens. just the scrolling dock at the bottom. launcher pro.
What are some things I am going to lose?
What is the differences in the Camera? Details?
What are the differences in the Dialer?
I like the dialer on Fresh 3.2 because of the FB integration.
I don't use 4G
I have not used HDMI as my flatscreen has a CPU connected already.
Is it possible to have the gallery from 3.2 with the FB pictures tab? or is that a sense thing?
Basically I don't know what all is strictly sense.

the default aosp dialer has what i consider to be a fault. you can't just spell out the name of contact. so i started using DialerOne.
dont' forget to check out both CM6 related threads (both are a bit quiet, but will answer many of the questions you may cross...search is your friend)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=735596
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=729802
not sure on the FB stuff since I don't use it except to fill in the pics in my contact list.
give it a whirl. it will be a bit different.
enjoy.

Thanks Draginmagik (sportbike rider?) I had already thought out what I wanted to ask while at work and only had time to ask while on lunch. Figured Id get some input from some people who had used both but your input is appreciated to. I forgot about dialer one. That is one of my favorite things about the dialer I have. I tried Dialer One on The moment but couldn't get it to come up with the green button. I guess thats not a problem with the evo.

A few things ive noticed in Fresh 3.2 Vs Cyanogen mod is that...
Fresh's battery life (by itself, no kernal flashed) is by far the best of any of the ROMS ive used.
I like the sense camera sooooooo much more than the default android camera so thats a no brainer for me.
I do like the AOSP call history though, its much easier to navigate to and through.
Overall, im running Cyanogen right now but ill probably go back to Fresh later tonight... the battery difference is amazing.

Reading a little more I don't see where Sprint vvm / weird text message is there or not. I hated that on the Hero AOSP roms. Also want to get opinions on GPS as i need it to work at the end of this week. I will be flashing this tonight, just want to get some feedback so dont need the "just try it" post. Again, Im just trying to get a comparison so I know what to look for faster after I flash to be sure I like it before I head home this weekend. Once I get on the road and get back home, phone playtime is over until I get caught up at home . hahaha.

wanfaltm said:
A few things ive noticed in Fresh 3.2 Vs Cyanogen mod is that...
Fresh's battery life (by itself, no kernal flashed) is by far the best of any of the ROMS ive used.
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Have you tried Kings ASOP kernrel? Im using #3 BFS and its great if I dont use the phone but it seems to suck down pretty quick when the phone wakes up. I'm over the battery thing, I just started carrying my usb cable in my back pocket and hit up a usb plug when I see one. lol But thanks for the info. Ill keep an eye on that too.
wanfaltm said:
I like the sense camera sooooooo much more than the default android camera so thats a no brainer for me.
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Can you explain the difference? I just figured out on the Fresh camera that if you touch the screen it focuses on that spot. Awesome feature. Wish my real camera did that.

yamaford said:
Have you tried Kings ASOP kernrel? Im using #3 BFS and its great if I dont use the phone but it seems to suck down pretty quick when the phone wakes up. I'm over the battery thing, I just started carrying my usb cable in my back pocket and hit up a usb plug when I see one. lol But thanks for the info. Ill keep an eye on that too.
Can you explain the difference? I just figured out on the Fresh camera that if you touch the screen it focuses on that spot. Awesome feature. Wish my real camera did that.
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not sure how the stock CM6 kernel is. a few days ago the CM6 nightly was upped to the .34 kernel. the custom ROM's are mostly on the .32 kernel still. i ran Kings on CM and it was 'ok'. the UI was smooth but the battery life reminded me of my previous stock kernels. perhaps as he rolls out more kernels that will be adjusted.
Cyanogen wrote the camera app in CM6. it also has the point touch focus. it has been much improved from the default aosp camera.
c'mon...make ur nandroid and jump in the beautiful cyan colored waters.

DraginMagik said:
Cyanogen wrote the camera app in CM6. it also has the point touch focus. it has been much improved from the default aosp camera.
c'mon...make ur nandroid and jump in the beautiful cyan colored waters.
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All nanded up and flashed and restored most of my apps. Pandora sounds great. Ill test it in the shop but in the hotel its loud! I didn't Know that was a feature.
I liked the look of the dialer until the phone rang. YUK!
Im trying to finish up my Manup them but not sure if the ZIP I already have for the notification bar will work with CM6
The camera work good so far, as long as the pictures take good im OK with that. I hate 3d gallery, always have. its on my list of things to fix.
I downloaded the one in the link. Your on nightlys right? do they seem stable enough for you? whats the best way to try those out? The github link is kinda over my head.

DraginMagik said:
Cyanogen wrote the camera app in CM6. it also has the point touch focus. it has been much improved from the default aosp camera.
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Cant forget having the ability to zoom while recording video. That's one of the big pluses of CM.

Well I found that the stock notification bar zip that I had on file won't work. I got the little blue android of death. After a quick reflash of cm6 all is well. still need that manup theme.

i'm on the 9/15 nightly. i think it was the 'swipe away items from the notification bar' feature or maybe a camera update that got me to flash up from the CM6final.
running it with -snap 7.6bfs kernel
currently, the CM6nightlys have slowed down so you just kinda keep an eye on the thread for nifty new features or updates...other than that, it's been very very stable for me since well before CM6final was released.

[Q] Dinc optical trackball speed found then lost!!!

I hope someone can help me with this. On my rooted droid incredible it has a optical trackball that barely moves the cursor when you swipe it. Somehow over the course of installing different roms (every one in Rom Manager), I was in recovery mode and noticed my swipes made the cursor fly down the list. It was very responsive and fast. Dare I say ... like a real trackball. It stayed fast for a few different rom installs and now it reverted back to slow. It only moves 1 - 3 lines with each thumb swipe. What did I do to make it fast the first time? How do I get that functionality back?
Was there code in one of the roms that changed its behavior?

isn't it kernel related?

pmsrefugee said:
I hope someone can help me with this. On my rooted droid incredible it has a optical trackball that barely moves the cursor when you swipe it. Somehow over the course of installing different roms (every one in Rom Manager), I was in recovery mode and noticed my swipes made the cursor fly down the list. It was very responsive and fast. Dare I say ... like a real trackball. It stayed fast for a few different rom installs and now it reverted back to slow. It only moves 1 - 3 lines with each thumb swipe. What did I do to make it fast the first time? How do I get that functionality back?
Was there code in one of the roms that changed its behavior?
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I noticed this too and love how responsive it is, especially in recovery. I'm running MIUI by nix and test2 kernel by kouch. Not sure where the modification is it, whether it's the rom or kernel.
Sent from my Droid Incredible using XDA App

ClockworkMod Recovery 2.5.1.1 has this feature. You might have flashed back to 2.5.0.5 on accident. Just scroll to "All ClockworkMod Recoveries" in ROM manager and choose to flash 2.5.1.1.

This is not kernel related. adrenalyne made a mod for this..

look for the topic titled clockworkmod...on crack or something similar
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App

Found it. During one of my restores clockwork mod got set back to the older version. I reinstalled 2.5.1.1 and got three flying cursor again. Thanks do much for the answer! Fyi miui rom is my favorite but I use launcher pro with it. 2nd would be shadow rom
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Cyanogenmod 7 vs Oxygen 2.0

Hi,
Im nog allowed to post this link in the development section, so im sorry if its wrong here. Can anyone tell me the differences between the CM7 rom and the oxygen rom? What are the pro's and con's of each rom? Tried a lot of google searches, but couldnt find it.
Patrick

still_the_same said:
Hi,
Im nog allowed to post this link in the development section, so im sorry if its wrong here. Can anyone tell me the differences between the CM7 rom and the oxygen rom? What are the pro's and con's of each rom? Tried a lot of google searches, but couldnt find it.
Patrick
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Depends if you want a technical explanation or simple?
As simple as it gets.. Nothing!
They are both GREAT Rom's by GREAT developers. However, they are also BOTH in "pre-stable" release status. This doesnt mean they arent stable, actually they are both insanely stable. It just means neither is a "Final Product"
Both share most of the same basic features and neither really has a downside or drawbacks.. it's all personal preference. I LOVED Oxygen when I was running it, but for me, the new features/tweaks/bugfixes of the CM7 nightlies just drew me in
Both have their own HBOOT, both support A2SD (though Cm7 is a seperate flashable zip) and both have a pretty stable following as far as theme support..
It really just comes down to you.. read through the threads/changelogs and see if one draws your attention more than the other.. remember, once you are rooted, it only takes a minute or two to flash a new ROM.. if you dont like the one you choose, try the other.

I find that CM7 actually works. I can't get Oxygen to install at all. The download messes up so the md5 is a mismatch and as such, when installed it doesn't. Just returns a bad request. But as mikeandjaimie said, there are very little differences. To be honest, you can't get someone to tell you what is better or not. It is down to you. Your own preference. Try them both out for a little bit and see which you like.

I've tried both over the last week (tried GingerVillain too) and I prefer Oxygen out of the 2 you mentioned. it's very basic, but I really like it. only had a problem with the Launcher Pro calendar widget, but everything else works fine. On CM I had some bad battery drain, but other people like it.

I actually managed to get Oxygen to work today and I am testing it a bit. Obviously there are still going to be bugs around but it's pretty stable. Oxygen is minimal. It uses the default Android launcher whereas CM7 uses ADWLauncher. I can't really tell the difference between them both really. Like I said above it is down to preference. There are no real differences at all.

mikeandjaimie said:
Both share most of the same basic features and neither really has a downside or drawbacks.. it's all personal preference. I LOVED Oxygen when I was running it, but for me, the new features/tweaks/bugfixes of the CM7 nightlies just drew me in
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What features do you prefer in CM7 as opposed to oxygen?
...just interested

Well I haven't used oxygen in a bit, but they hadn't added any of the CM specific tweaks and features yet.. mostly stuff like gestures, etc.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

CM patches are used for pretty much everything in Oxygen, so most features are alike. I like both, but prefer bleeding edge so CM nightlies FTW
Sent from a piece of ginger bread... Now with a little cyan tint

I have never used oxygen roms but its my first time to cyanogenmod 7 roms ever and I can say I am more then happy, I am have been using the first build nightly for well over a week now and its been absolutely fine, the only thing that does not work is video recording which but everyone is pre-warned about that until the nexus one files get dropped in.
Just flashed to 24th Feb nightly and still no hiccups, not getting the battery drain issues like people are posting, but there is no noticeable decrease or increase for me compared to the previous O2 branded froyo build.

what about ginger villain?

Haven't used CM7, but if you want a fast and lightweight ROM with excellent battery life (see the battery saving mods) then you cannot go wrong with Oxygen
Moreover,tt looks like now that the nexus one OTA has been extracted we will see a stable version of Oxygen very soon, so the problems with the Camcorder on RC7 (the dev didn't want any hacks in the ROM since he wanted it to be as stable as possible) will be ironed out!

Do both these have Bluetooth gamepad support
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would love to see some posts with info about what made someone to move from one mod to another
(just a bump)

I loved Oxygen, loved it. Very fast and minimal allowing me to add to it the way I see fit, the way it should be really. Problem was I was one of the few that experienced bootloops constantly. On average once a day. Sometimes it would go into a boot loop at idle, and I wouldn't notice for over an hour, and by the time I got it back on, the screen being on and displaying the boot animation had drained some serious battery.
So I tried Ginger Villian, I had the same issue with bootloops, so I tried redux. I was quite happy with it, except it didn't work as a phone. It dropped calls every few minutes to multiple numbers, and it refused to send or recieve mms (Yes I checked the APNs). That's when I decided to try CM7, and found that it just works for me where the others didn't. Yes it's a little more heavily featured than I would like, yes it can be a bit laggy and slow every now and then, but it's the stability and reliability that keeps me here for the moment.
I wasn't S-Off when running Oxygen though, so I will delete the ext partition on my SD card and reinstall Oxygen with the oxygen hboot to see if maybe it makes a difference. Something must, there's a lot of people out there claiming to have never had a boot loop, though I would miss the T-Mobile theme enginge that CM7 ships with.
Probably more than you wanted to hear, but that's basically what made me jump from Oxygen to CM.

i really love a stable rom. that's why i prefer cyanogen and used cm6 for a long time. but i also want the latest android version. that's why i use oxygen at the moment until cm7 becomes "FINAL".
the most important thing about cm is that they do not modify the rom all the time. they create a rom, they test it as beta/rc (ONLY for bugfixing - no new (maybe buggy) features all the time) and one day you get a final rom which is no longer changed and STABLE.

I used CM6.1 for quite some time, I love AOSP ROMs, Ultralinx persuaded me to try Oxygen RC2 and I changed HBOOT to go with it. I love the minimalist, hack free aspect of the ROM. And because Oxygen 2.0.1 is so stable and lightweight, and that I can't be bothered to change HBOOT again I think I am going to stick with Oxygen until I am due to upgrade phones.

I used Oxygen since I first rooted, it was a froyo rom, but I used it all the way up to the most recent version. Today I tried cyanogenmod, just to see what differences (if any) there were.
So far, I've noticed the for a2sd+ on cm, you need to flash an additional script. But the main benefit of cm is that I can, for the first time since rooting, send mms again. I could receive them on oxygen no problem, but couldn't for the life send them. Definite benefit for me there.

hidinginthebush said:
I used Oxygen since I first rooted, it was a froyo rom, but I used it all the way up to the most recent version. Today I tried cyanogenmod, just to see what differences (if any) there were.
So far, I've noticed the for a2sd+ on cm, you need to flash an additional script. But the main benefit of cm is that I can, for the first time since rooting, send mms again. I could receive them on oxygen no problem, but couldn't for the life send them. Definite benefit for me there.
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Sorry of topic now but:
What do you mean by flashing a script for the app2sd? I only have a app called S2E, and an ext3 partition. And that app does the job, just by restarting my phone the apps moves to the ext3. But I do realize that my internalmemory goes down when I have a lot of apps. Like now i got 96 mb free. Am I doin it right?
Thanks

xziaz said:
Sorry of topic now but:
What do you mean by flashing a script for the app2sd? I only have a app called S2E, and an ext3 partition. And that app does the job, just by restarting my phone the apps moves to the ext3. But I do realize that my internalmemory goes down when I have a lot of apps. Like now i got 96 mb free. Am I doin it right?
Thanks
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Less than a minute of searching:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10675412&postcount=2

xziaz said:
Sorry of topic now but:
What do you mean by flashing a script for the app2sd? I only have a app called S2E, and an ext3 partition. And that app does the job, just by restarting my phone the apps moves to the ext3. But I do realize that my internalmemory goes down when I have a lot of apps. Like now i got 96 mb free. Am I doin it right?
Thanks
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If you haven't moved your dalvik cache to SD then your internal memory will decrease. Dalvik takes up so much storage space.

Trackpad sensitivity

Hello there!
I've been using my Desire Z for a long time but found the trackpad pretty useless. This is because i found the sensitivity for it pretty low so if i want to scroll down on a page it's taking forever. I also noticed if i scroll using a piece of cloth (like my shirt) the scrolling is alot faster and usable. But it's not that nice using cloth all the time.
My girlfriend has just got an new phone the Samsung Galaxy Y Pro. It also has an optical trackpad which is alot faster and usable. Also in the settings there is an option to make the trackpad faster more sensitive.
Is there any kind of application or modification to make the trackpad faster sensitiver or so?
Please let me now .
Regards
Edit: whoops i forgot to add [Q] in the topics name and i have no idea how to edit this.

Finally a topic regarding this issue!
I noticed that using certain (mostly newer, modded - CM7 for example) ROMs, the trackpad responsivess is great.
However, recently I flashed to modded stock ROM (Virtuous G-Lite) and I also find the trackpad quite useless :/
Been searching the internet for reason or solution, but found nothing
Hope to find the answer!

So if the sensitivity differs in different ROMS it's editable in a file or so. So i think it would be possible for an smart developer to create an app that edit's the values in the file to change the sensitivity with a nice slider as GUI.
Hopes it will be there someday .

I could not agree more about the trackpad, it makes me want the responsiveness of my old G1 with the trackball (but that design is prone to fail because moisture/foreign objects can easily get underneath the ball).
Would love to see some sort of customization for trackpad sensitivity become mainstream for custom roms.

I've experienced the same problem with the following ROMs:
CM 7.1.0 Stable
Virtuous v2.0.0
Virtuous G-Lite 1.6
So it's happening on AOSP and Sense based ROMs.

Just flashed G2-Slim 1.2 (see my sig for link), which seems to be the same AOSP ROM as Virtuous G-lite, but the sensitivity responsiviness seems much better.
I have no idea how the hell can it be different..
Maybe different kernels affect this?

I'm also using the G-slim ROM for a couple of days now and besides I really like the ROM the trackpad is indeed faster. But still not as fast as I would like. Let's hope some dev. Check this thread out an can help us what makes the difference in sensitivity for the trackpad!

I remember before back on android 2.2 when using the trackpad through texts depending on how fast I swiped would determine how many letters or words it would move. But now especially with roms like cm7 no matter what it'll only move over 1 letter =/ a setting to adjust sensitivity in future roms would be amazing
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AntSmoove said:
I remember before back on android 2.2 when using the trackpad through texts depending on how fast I swiped would determine how many letters or words it would move. But now especially with roms like cm7 no matter what it'll only move over 1 letter =/ a setting to adjust sensitivity in future roms would be amazing
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That's exactly my problem! I don't want to move one letter if i like to i want to move 5 letters or scroll (fast) to the beginning with the trackpad. Just like it is on blackberry's or on the Samsung Galaxy Y PRO. My girlfriend get's the galaxy y pro on her birthday (27th of December) it runs gingerbread stock and has got an sensitivity option in the settings. Maybe i can break that functionality and put it in our phones. I don't know if it will work tho because the trackpad maybe differs. Still hoping a developer will look at this thread and help us out!

Sense Roms?

Hello everyone, I am currently running Sense 3.5 Energy and have been trying to find a good sense Rom the suits me. I just cannot seem to get one that doesn't have noticeable glitches.
With the Energy Sense 3.5 Rom I am having some trouble with a couple of things showing up.
*For example, when I try and select a "scene", "skin", "wallpaper", "Lock screen style" via the Personalize section, they are all just grey tabs and show no preview.
I find this Sense Rom to be the best one on my phone.
The other Sense Rom's do the same exact thing.
My other question is for the ICS Rom's. I love the overall feel of them and they are excellent but I am also having some noticeable issues.
*One issue I would like to address is when I turn the screen off from the on state, it will transition off, flicker on then off. It's basically a hit an miss, sometimes does it and sometimes doesn't, mostly it does. Same thing on ICS as to the Scene, skins, wallpapers, lock screen previews.
I have looked in many thread comments and haven't seen anyone really comment on any of these things, unless I am overlooking them. So here I am!
Appreciate all the help I can get, 2nd post! W00T!
Thanks, -Nic

Nickitt said:
Hello everyone, I am currently running Sense 3.5 Energy and have been trying to find a good sense Rom the suits me. I just cannot seem to get one that doesn't have noticeable glitches.
With the Energy Sense 3.5 Rom I am having some trouble with a couple of things showing up.
*For example, when I try and select a "scene", "skin", "wallpaper", "Lock screen style" via the Personalize section, they are all just grey tabs and show no preview.
I find this Sense Rom to be the best one on my phone.
The other Sense Rom's do the same exact thing.
My other question is for the ICS Rom's. I love the overall feel of them and they are excellent but I am also having some noticeable issues.
*One issue I would like to address is when I turn the screen off from the on state, it will transition off, flicker on then off. It's basically a hit an miss, sometimes does it and sometimes doesn't, mostly it does. Same thing on ICS as to the Scene, skins, wallpapers, lock screen previews.
I have looked in many thread comments and haven't seen anyone really comment on any of these things, unless I am overlooking them. So here I am!
Appreciate all the help I can get, 2nd post! W00T!
Thanks, -Nic
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The gray tab / hidden preview is a known issue with newer Sense ROMs. What to do is whenever you are in Personalize - Skins it whatever, hit the menu button and use Grid view.
The ICS screen-on thing, it happens sometimes. Not sure why, but it does. Plagues me on GB too. Annoying, yes, but I tap my power button 3 times fast to make sure it doesn't happen. Try using SetCPU or an alternative and raising barely the minimum value /screen off value.

tropicalbrit said:
The gray tab / hidden preview is a known issue with newer Sense ROMs. What to do is whenever you are in Personalize - Skins it whatever, hit the menu button and use Grid view.
The ICS screen-on thing, it happens sometimes. Not sure why, but it does. Plagues me on GB too. Annoying, yes, but I tap my power button 3 times fast to make sure it doesn't happen. Try using SetCPU or an alternative and raising barely the minimum value /screen off value.
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For the ICS, I personally wouldn't recommend using setcpu, because it'll compete with the tiamat havs kernel and can cause issues. You can try downloading rom toolbox from the market [free] and use it to change the governor.

Most stable sense roms, in my opinion, are mikg or classic.

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Most stable sense roms, in my opinion, are mikg or classic.
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Problem with those, IMO, is they're TOO stock. I need some flashiness to my ROM

tropicalbrit said:
The gray tab / hidden preview is a known issue with newer Sense ROMs. What to do is whenever you are in Personalize - Skins it whatever, hit the menu button and use Grid view.
The ICS screen-on thing, it happens sometimes. Not sure why, but it does. Plagues me on GB too. Annoying, yes, but I tap my power button 3 times fast to make sure it doesn't happen. Try using SetCPU or an alternative and raising barely the minimum value /screen off value.
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Alright I will rom the ICS in a couple of minutes because I would rather run them. Not exactly sure how to just raise a particular setting. I'll probably be able to figure it out though ha! Curious as to know which ICS you would run? Jared's or kushdeck's?
Appreciate the help
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For the ICS, I personally wouldn't recommend using setcpu, because it'll compete with the tiamat havs kernel and can cause issues. You can try downloading rom toolbox from the market [free] and use it to change the governor.
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That's good information that I didn't know and I am glad I know about now.

HipKat said:
Problem with those, IMO, is they're TOO stock. I need some flashiness to my ROM
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Both of those roms have very active themers who have done incredible jobs making them non stock. See wired theme for mikg or evolvedclassic and supreme cream for classic. Just sayin....