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[Q] sense...

Been having a great time playing around with my evo, have it fully rooted and flashed with the latest cm which has been really great on battery life and experimenting but I think im trying to run before I can walk. My first question is what exactly is it that sense brings to my phone?
Is it just a bunch of bloated screen effects to make the phone look pretty?....I really enjoy cm 6 but I do miss some things from stock like the call window, gallery, contact list, and browser (the stock browsers auto adjusting seemed a lot better)....but I don't miss the horrible battery life.
Is it sense that brought me those things I liked, or can I get them in cm with enough customization?
Tbh I've been looking at the new fusion mod since I'm in a 4g area and it would be nice to put my phone to full use. I was just curious about the sense vs. senseless.

shrumhead said:
Been having a great time playing around with my evo, have it fully rooted and flashed with the latest cm which has been really great on battery life and experimenting but I think im trying to run before I can walk. My first question is what exactly is it that sense brings to my phone?
Is it just a bunch of bloated screen effects to make the phone look pretty?....I really enjoy cm 6 but I do miss some things from stock like the call window, gallery, contact list, and browser (the stock browsers auto adjusting seemed a lot better)....but I don't miss the horrible battery life.
Is it sense that brought me those things I liked, or can I get them in cm with enough customization?
Tbh I've been looking at the new fusion mod since I'm in a 4g area and it would be nice to put my phone to full use. I was just curious about the sense vs. senseless.
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Have you tried checking the box
Settings - Cyanogen settings - UI settings - WebView - reflow immediately after pinch
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Oooo ty like I said I'm pretty new to all of this

[ROM COLLECTION] [08/16/2010] Exciting ROMs you've never heard of!

I was a little (very) bored so I decided to use google translate to search for ROMs in other launguages and here's a few that looks very promising (websites are in the language they where posted in. Use google translate to translate xD)
Elelinux FroYo, Also a translated version of this but looks more like google translate xD This is in my oppinion THE BEST Cyanogen 6 ROM! It's EXTREMELY smooth and it has some awsome awsome themes. If you then equip it with the Flykernel it gets even smoother and even better in benchmark. Tip: For the original kernel OverclockWidget seems to be working much better than SetCPU
EDIT: I must say it's a tie between the two kernels (elelinux or ninpo´s or however made that kernel for elelinux Froyo im not sure kernel might actually be a little better) I'm getting around 5.2-5.3 MFLOPS with the default kernel (748MHz) and it goes up high sometimes so I'm using that currently
Elelinux Legendary, Translated thread or at least almost I think A legend port so it has some nice features like FriendStream it also looks a little more up to date than other legend ports? It has a very nice theme too!
EDGEHero, Holy ****! Performance orgasm! Hust tried this and I thaught I was in love with Cronos Droid but OMFG am I cheating on it xD Anyways the one thing I notice when I saw this was the posibility for OC up to 844MHz yup 844MHz (yes my phone can take it )! Just read that this also has a theme
FramHero Pretty much a standard ROM but it has a very nice theme
bFROYO A Cyanogon 6 ROM with some nice features and it looks like it has got a REALLY cool theme too
7Hero A Russian ROM (not language wice) mainly made for Russians but it looks like it has some nice add-ons etc.
eVanilla Looks like it's a cyanogen 5.0.8 ROM. Focus in this ROM is clearly at performance
So if you've tried these ROMs what do you think? If you know another undiscovered wonder please let me know!

maybe you can find something, what you didn't see yet on the xda forums
http://hero-roms.blogspot.com/

liljom said:
maybe you can find something, what you didn't see yet on the xda forums
http://hero-roms.blogspot.com/
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Oh yeah of course I actually look at this page from time to time but I completely forgot xD Will update the post later

another one:
bFroyo - http://hero-roms.blogspot.com/2010/07/bfroyo63-v04.html
I don't know where it came from default language is non-english but as long as you know your way around menus you can switch it to english pretty easily.
great rom
all I found missing (which was a deal breaker) was exchange - it's not listed in accounts to add.
And finally, the very experimental...
[email protected]_2.2 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=580339&highlight=froyo
It's cool, works well, but for me has three fundamental issues:
- voice call sound quality is terrible, something's wrong there (But dev says it's fine for him). I've tried different radios, I've patched different audio files as per his suggestions, nothing's changed anything. sound in speaker is lacking in treble, and people on other end can't really hear me at all.
- not exchange support (yet)
- doesn't support our favorite apps2sd, doesn't even allow for an ext partition to be on the card. it's very froyo-only in design that way. if the above two things worked then I'd reformat to only fat32 and give it another try, but the voice sound quality bug is a blocker for me. however it's a cool design, very alternative font, sexy looking, nice layout, nice alternative default apps. An interesting rom, fun to play with. if sound quality somehow just "works" for you then it might be a daily user.

dkelley said:
another one:
bFroyo - http://hero-roms.blogspot.com/2010/07/bfroyo63-v04.html
I don't know where it came from default language is non-english but as long as you know your way around menus you can switch it to english pretty easily.
great rom
all I found missing (which was a deal breaker) was exchange - it's not listed in accounts to add.
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Cool will add to first post (found the original post ) Will not add [email protected] since it can be found here at XDA

I have used Elelinux Legendary, a few older versions, and they have been working great.
As for his FroYo ROM it is about the same as the other FroYo ROMs around.

kosmiq said:
I have used Elelinux Legendary, a few older versions, and they have been working great.
As for his FroYo ROM it is about the same as the other FroYo ROMs around.
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Cool How would you say the speed was on the legend post compared to Hero official 2.1?

C0mpu13rFr34k said:
Cool How would you say the speed was on the legend post compared to Hero official 2.1?
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Never used the real official 2.1, only team villains version. However I never had any problems with it and for the tasks I do with my phone it was more than enough. Mind though that I do not play games or stuff on my phone. I use it for SMS, Email, calls etc. For that, it worked great. Only reason I switched ROM was to try the various vanilla ROMs and never really found my way back...

kosmiq said:
Never used the real official 2.1, only team villains version. However I never had any problems with it and for the tasks I do with my phone it was more than enough. Mind though that I do not play games or stuff on my phone. I use it for SMS, Email, calls etc. For that, it worked great. Only reason I switched ROM was to try the various vanilla ROMs and never really found my way back...
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That's kinda like me I only flash ROMs that's almost all I use my Hero for xD

Elelinux just updated his FroYo ROM. Translated changelog:
Changelog 2010-08-08
ROM updated. No wipe, simply flash over previous version.
Removed launcher2
Removed Gallery 3D
Added LauncherPro
Added Astro
Added phonebook
Built a new kernel. Counting on better battery time, added conservative as a choice for SetCPU, on demand is still default.
Recommended setting is 352MHz as the lowest if SetCPU is in conservative mode. Otherwise it could sleep too "hard" and have strange colors on wake. Running 352/652MHz with conservative on my Hero.
Minor graphical changes with black status bad and white text. If anyone wants the white I will upload that as well.
Here is an update to remove 3D Gallery.
http://www.statusuppdateringskomplex...D_gallerie.zip
Still working on a solution to the camera problem.
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thx thx =)

thanks for that... never been on that blog before so many roms.. starting with edgehero tho to check speed and then bfrodo for theme.. but was just going to updated to fusion might have to get a nokia for phone calls and txting next few days

too bad he removed 3d gallery from his froyo rom instead of fixing it or using the fixed version for froyo that cronos and fusion use.

Just installed bFROYO and it's pretty cool so far. The missing Exchange sync will be a deal breaker for me too long term but I'm waiting on the Froyo Email.apk from klaus27.
ROM is pretty great so far.

cs-cam said:
Just installed bFROYO and it's pretty cool so far. The missing Exchange sync will be a deal breaker for me too long term but I'm waiting on the Froyo Email.apk from klaus27.
ROM is pretty great so far.
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what's the email.apk supposed to do?? is it just an email app or is it exchange support?

@cs-cam
How long were you sat on the blue skating android with the arrow going around?
It keeps dissapearing, reappearing and carrying on... taken around 10 minutes so far, and no different, and worried that I may have bricked it... :-/
boch501

boch501 said:
@cs-cam
How long were you sat on the blue skating android with the arrow going around?
It keeps dissapearing, reappearing and carrying on... taken around 10 minutes so far, and no different, and worried that I may have bricked it... :-/
boch501
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You are in a bootloop... Pull the battery then go into recovery and do a FULL wipe and reinstall.

finally a sense rom where tvcatchup works properly!! Elelinux Legendary

djdavis said:
finally a sense rom where tvcatchup works properly!! Elelinux Legendary
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Glad to hear

elelinux said:
Glad to hear
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was it complicated to get it to work?

CM6 vs Vaelpak

I am thinking about flashing CM6 this weekend just to see what it's like. I have been on Vaelpak 2.2 and been very happy with it. I tried some of the sense roms first (Baked and Myn mainly) and didn't think I would like a non-sense rom but I am digging Vael w/Launcher Pro and haven't really missed sense.
I know that the ultimate test will be to try it out myself and I plan to. I am also not trying to start another blanket "which one is best thread" but I would like to hear some thoughts from some of you Rom Warriors that have spent some decent time with both to see what I should expect as far as these two are concerned.
Other factors: I am not in a 4G area, HDMI isn't important (right now anyways) and I never listed to the FM radio anyways. I also have one of the Chinese batteries on the way, so as long as the weight of it don't scare me off, I hopefully won't have battery issues with either rom.
With those factors in the mix, can some of you offer your informed opinions of what I should expect to see/miss if I flash CM6?
I think both have new versions cooking (see what I did thar) so just give me your thoughts on the current versions.
Thanks a bunch!

I am doing that right now but I am coming from Fresh. So far don't like it. No Market- so far, I found a "fix" but it doesn't work, so I have a phone with web and that is about it!! Need to search some more but tied up with kids etc...
-Art

HTCinPA said:
I am doing that right now but I am coming from Fresh. So far don't like it. No Market- so far, I found a "fix" but it doesn't work, so I have a phone with web and that is about it!! Need to search some more but tied up with kids etc...
-Art
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Did you install gapps, per chance?

AOSP is something you either like or dislike ... there is no middle ground. I have used CM6 extensively, but I also maintain a nice "Sense" rom, for whenever I'm in a 4g area. On that point, I may not need it much longer, as CM6 will be going 4g very shortly. Also looks like HDMI will be working soon ... FM Radio has already been added.
Basic aosp, like in Cyanogen's rom is very quick, very smooth, and just works. You will hear about people who are having an issue here and there, but it's almost always "user error". That doesn't mean that CM6 is perfect, but it is highly evolved and almost there.
Most of the people coming from "sense" will not like it. Although it doesn't have all the widgets and stuff ... almost everything can be replicated. For example, I like the look of the clock/weather widget and so I use "fancy widget", an almost exact replica. I also like launcher pro, and it works perfectly. I could go on and on, but you will need to decide for yourself.
Do a nand back up of whatever you're currently using, and jump in. And don't give up after a couple of hours. As with everything new, there is a learning curve ... and you should do some reading/exploring. Ask lots of questions ... there is plenty of help available ... all be it, with the usual XDA "style". I will leave you with this final thought ... Cyanogen is without a doubt, the foremost Android developer ever.

CM6 will be smoother, less lockups and just overall run better. I haven't run Vael's so I don't know if he uses AOSP contacts and dialer, but I prefer the AOSP contacts and text apps. I download Dialer One from the market to get T9 dialing.
Integration with facebook contacts and twitter is much better on CM6. CM6 may have 4G working soon, FM Radio is working now, and HDMI is close as well. The camera app on CM6 is leagues better than any of the other camera apps.
Just make sure when you install cm6 that you install the Gapps zip since you need that to get maps, market, gmail and the basic google services.

I have a lot of time with both roms. Vaelpak's rom is fantastic and his support is quick and spot on. probably the developer that is the most reachable when you have a problem or question. Very smooth, stable, and fast. CM6 takes a lot of fine tuning to get all the apps you want and get it set up to exactly the way you want it. Its so damn fast and smooth that people in 4g areas run the rom anyway because it's performance out weighs the lack of 4g and hdmi. And snap's kernels and his support team are second to none. When 4g makes it to CM I will run that rom as my daily exclusively on my EVO until the new dual core phones come out or the EVO 2.
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Bored

I think I'm going through ROM Boredom.
Seems like I've run through just about everything, and I need something new that gets me excited again.
I had all the best Froyo ROMS, and ran Koni III for a long time as a daily.
I've run the 2.1/3.0 ROMS, but they're really all the same, more or less. Going from Synergy back to MikG, just for the 2.2 updated version isn't turning me on. Although I do prefer the 3.0 stuff over the older versions.
I have no desire to run MIUI and have to deal with all my apps on the desktops (I hate that)
I'm still a little gun shy on CM7, after the rash of White Screen issues, which looks like they've subsided, plus, CM7 just doesn't really appeal to me. I like the spit and polish of sense.
I guess I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place.

Unroot and return to stock? Who knows, of could be the "change" your looking for?

Lol.... Oh HELL no
Swyped From The Hippest Phone Using XDA Premium

I've been a little 'bored' as well .. at first I thought I was more or less content. Been jumping around lately and been on MIUI last week or so with a sweet theme. I use ADW EX anyways, so you get the drawer and don't have a cluster f*ck of apps on the screen. I never understood the hate, and with a theme you can really jazz it up. Been on it a few times but never hung around. Might just stick here for a while. It's pretty sexy.
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Does ADW EX take away form any of the other desktop customizations, etc on MIUI?

AdW on Miui is great. I really like the drop down notifications and all the setting options you can retain with the mix of the two.
If you get really bored and want to try something different not on XDA, there is that UD rom. I've never tried it but have been close a few times.
That launcher7 on the market for free could hold you over for an hour or two also

HipKat said:
Does ADW EX take away form any of the other desktop customizations, etc on MIUI?
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Hmm, such as? I know it has different options for transitions and such, but as for that and maybe some widgets, I'm not too sure of the other little 'goodies.' Unless, of course, you mean themed icons and what not ... in which case, I've been using a specific set for what seems like ages. So, again, not sure. I've always just slapped another launcher on as I don't like the apps being on the desktop by default. ADW EX, obviously, has different transitions as well and the list for MIUI 'appears' to have similar ones ... so not sure how different they all are.
Haven't messed around with different lock screens as I just use Widgetlocker, so can't really comment on that either. I haven't had much time to mess around with the latest version (can't remember the last one I was even on) but I plan giving it a longer run this time around.
Might be worth checking out.

Sounds like we run similar setups with custom icons, widgetlocker, etc....
I might just have to give it a run, just for something different, and as long as the icons aren't on the desktops, then it loses the stupid iphone look.
One really good thing is going back to SBC AOSP kernels.
My battery will love me again.

Just come on over to the 3d side Hip

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Just come on over to the 3d side Hip
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lol. no update til January

Hipkat,
I was using UD 3.3.1 with the tiamat kernel for a long time (for me anyway) It was a nice change and was really stable. I only went to Synergy to see what the fuss was about ( and now I'm staying there for a while) I don't know whats up with it now though, Balckdroids site is down and has been for a while.
If you want to give it a whirl, let me know and I'll give you the zip.

I'll take a look at it. Thx!

HipKat said:
lol. no update til January
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Or back to the Moment?
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OK, here they are.
Flash the UD rom first, then the GPS fix and google apps (these are newer than the ones bundled with the rom) then the tiamat kernel. You can do them all together and as always wipe cache/dalvik and data first.
Enjoy
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19202845/Ul...imate_supersonic-ota-eng.blackdroid.3.3.1.zip
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19202845/Ul...o fixes ud/CM7-N39-GPS-Driver_Supsersonic.zip
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19202845/Ultimate_droid3.3.1_AOSP/evo fixes ud/gapps-evo-20110504-vm.zip
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19202845/Ultimate_droid3.3.1_AOSP/evo fixes ud/Tiamat_Evo-v4.0.5-sbc.zip

CM7 isn't too flashy by default, but there are a ton of cool themes for it. And most of them use Theme Manager, which means you don't need to flash them -- you just install an APK and you can switch it up on the fly without even rebooting.

Have you tried using the kitchen to cook your own? I just did my own, but I can't flash it! Ha! No root!
Seen my post in General Forum?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1156664

SNS is pretty rad, 2.3, themed with Sense and NonSense, very fast and stable, no issues, crazy good battery life. And I get in the same mind games weekly it seems. I go from stock to custom 12 times over, back to stock, its an addictive habit that gets me in trouble with the fiance' most days! Just a thought, good luck!

lol, I'd probably work out more, if I wasn't sitting here playing with this phone almost every night....

Finally ready to move off GB

Any recommendations for ics roms I'm leaning towards mimicry since I want as much speed and stability as possible. I've been on glite for along time so performance and stability is a huge plus!
I prefer non sense roms with overclocking ability. being pretty it's a plus but not a must. I def want the most stable camera and I don't mind having to tweak out a bit. Any advice?

killj0y said:
Any recommendations for ics roms I'm leaning towards mimicry since I want as much speed and stability as possible. I've been on glite for along time so performance and stability is a huge plus!
I prefer non sense roms with overclocking ability. being pretty it's a plus but not a must. I def want the most stable camera and I don't mind having to tweak out a bit. Any advice?
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I think you're on the right track with Mimicry. In my experience it's been very stable, smooth, an fast. It's meets all your criteria. By default it's overclocked to 1.2 GHz, and has the option to install V6 Supercharger. I'd highly recommend it. As for pretty, Sonny Sekhon makes some incredible ISC/JB themes. Also, all ICS ROMs for the Vision have issues with 3rd party camera apps due to missing drivers. In my experience the stock camera works just fine.

I don't mind the stock camera, since frankly I have other camera apps I've never even run lol. does the stock camera do panoramic pics?

killj0y said:
I don't mind the stock camera, since frankly I have other camera apps I've never even run lol. does the stock camera do panoramic pics?
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Yeah, I thought I'd miss all my camera applications, but at this moment in my life the stock camera completely suffices. I haven't used the panorama option, but... yes, it's appears (just checked it) to be working... I've been using Mimicry for several months now and I'm still excited about it. I was a long time ILWT (CM7) user and I never thought an ICS ROM could compare, but Mimicry truly does. I actually flashed back to GB a couple weeks ago - just to see - and I missed blk_jack's ROM immediately. If you take a look at some of the other "best ICS ROM" threads I think you'll see that a huge population are loving Mimicry. Good luck!

killj0y, I had the same dillema, but was using stock rom.
Friend of mine that already was testing other roms told me to experiment with Andromadus, and especially with Mimicry http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1714187
With latest radio it's just very good concerning the 'out of the box' installation experience.
The only problems were with camera, but I never experienced any issues because I use default campera app, and the only program that was giving weird effects was Google Goggles.
The lack of drivers for camera is annoying when recording video, 480p only.
Recently I started to experiment with Andromadis JellyBean development builds, they they got some minor issues. There still happen some camera issues, but video recording is ok @ 720p. In general it was a bit sluggish, but managed to fix that installing DataSwap - it really helps.
Just wait till Mimicry gonna switch to JellyBean and it's gonna by awesome.

Ditamae said:
Yeah, I thought I'd miss all my camera applications, but at this moment in my life the stock camera completely suffices. I haven't used the panorama option, but... yes, it's appears (just checked it) to be working... I've been using Mimicry for several months now and I'm still excited about it. I was a long time ILWT (CM7) user and I never thought an ICS ROM could compare, but Mimicry truly does. I actually flashed back to GB a couple weeks ago - just to see - and I missed blk_jack's ROM immediately. If you take a look at some of the other "best ICS ROM" threads I think you'll see that a huge population are loving Mimicry. Good luck!
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Oh great i just flashed it this morning and am tweaking it to my liking so far so good. Wish i could change apex to default to the main screen when I click home like the GB launcher or go launcher ex. I'll make sure to uninstall pano then
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killj0y, I had the same dillema, but was using stock rom.
Friend of mine that already was testing other roms told me to experiment with Andromadus, and especially with Mimicry http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1714187
With latest radio it's just very good concerning the 'out of the box' installation experience.
The only problems were with camera, but I never experienced any issues because I use default campera app, and the only program that was giving weird effects was Google Goggles.
The lack of drivers for camera is annoying when recording video, 480p only.
Recently I started to experiment with Andromadis JellyBean development builds, they they got some minor issues. There still happen some camera issues, but video recording is ok @ 720p. In general it was a bit sluggish, but managed to fix that installing DataSwap - it really helps.
Just wait till Mimicry gonna switch to JellyBean and it's gonna by awesome.
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Awesome I have had the latest radio for a while now since the ota so no issues there. I thought i was having the wifi dropout issue when i first booted but might have been a false alarm. Either way i have the files needed in my dropbox just in case. I hadn't thought about google goggles damn that kinda sucks but i can live with that. I was kinda bummed about the 720p but i rarely record video, but when I do i like it being the best quality i can manage since it will suck that much less lol.:good:

Best Rom type threads are not allowed on XDA, please just try some and find one that suites you.
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