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Switching to Launcher Pro - Time to go to CM6?

So I just (half-an-hour ago) switched over to Launcher Pro. I absolutely love it. I'm running it on Fresh 3.2.0.0 with Kingx's BFS #8 . . . but I just realized that I'm basically bordering on being done with Sense altogether. I am used to (and prefer) the HTC dialer, messaging, VVM, and a few other things, so that would make the switch hard, but how much Sense is still going on behind Launcher Pro? Is it going to kill my performance or battery life?

There's still some Sense stuff in the background, but it's not all bad. The awesome copy and paste ability that you see in the browser would be gone. The MMS app in CM6 doesn't let you send messages longer than 160 characters without it failing to send. Also, the battery life of CM6 is much worse than Fresh 3.2.0.0. Yesterday I read an ebook, messaged, surfed and played a bit of Connectoo and still had 66% battery life after 12 hours. Sure, that was light use, but I can barely make it to 9 hours on CM6 without it dying.
If you want to try CM6, here are a few things to address your concerns. You can install VVM on CM6 and it will work just fine (though some people report getting annoying notifications saying that they have a message when they don't). You can install Handcent messager which will let you bypass the 160 character bug I mentioned above. Also, there is an app called Dialer One that behaves kind of like the Sense dialer.
Edit: and if you use Exchange for your mail, I really like CM6's AOSP email app. If you type a letter or two from the email address you want, it will actually search the server's email addresses and list all matches, not just those in your own contact list.

Thanks for the info! I think I'll stick with Fresh and LP for now, it's everything I love. Gonna try VaelPak before reflashing to get rid of this theme I just flashed (didn't nandroid first), then it'll be back to the old standby.

I've been using Vaelpak for about a week now and its great. I switched when I found myself using Sense less and less. I never tried CM6 because I use 4G and can't do without it.

bigmoogle said:
I've been using Vaelpak for about a week now and its great. I switched when I found myself using Sense less and less. I never tried CM6 because I use 4G and can't do without it.
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I used to be on Cyanogen...since the first nightly up to the final version. I recently got 4G in my area...so I've tried Baked Snack and Fresh...right now I've been using Vaelpak for about 12 hours and it is a very nice mostly Sense-less alternative.
btw, launcher pro is awesome, but I love my ADW just a little more

I used both Launcher Pro and ADW and I love ADW. Dont get me wrong I really liked LP and I like the customaizable dock but ADW is where its at man. If your gonna try another laucher play with ADW and play with all the settings there is a lot. Also that post above about CM6 isnt accurate lol. I have been running CM6 for a month now and my battery life is awesome. He probably had an app not letting his phone sleep. For instance my phone died in 9 hours the other day. I used it none stop for 5 hours straight then used it lightly for 4 hours before it died. I always get by a full day and charge everynight. If I used it lightly for a day i wouldnt have to charge it that night. Today its been off charge for 9 hours and I used it kinda lightly however I streamed pandora for at least 3 hours today. My battery is at 46%. Oh and I am not running any special kernals, I dont use a task killer and I dont use Juice. The only thing syncing is my PSN friends widget. That sync's every thirty minutes.
Lastly I really like the AOSP dialer because its got the option for favorits and that basicly takes the place of the only sense widget I used. CM6 is great no sense is a bit overwhelming the first time you load CM6 but man I am really loving it. Also Iv been on fresh and liked it, I also liked DC 3.2 when I tried that. Since I have loaded CM6 a month ago I havnt flashed any other rom. I hate to sound like a CM6 fan boy lol but CM6 is perfect for me even if its not perfect for others. I mean I was using ADW before I loaded CM6 and I never used any of the sense widgets so whats isnt there to love about CM6 for me. I get 4G in my area and still use CM6 lol.
Whatever you do have fun and love the fact that you have choics because with all the choices we have out there now we can really choose what is perfect or what works for use. Even if you where to like sense its your choice your phone do what you want. Thats just my disclaimer so I dont get flamed for touting CM6 so much in this post lol.

You can also remove a lot of the sense and sense widgets form the phone to prevent a lot of them from running in the background. I am of the minority it seems that is nto a fan of AOSP. I admit cyanogen does amazing work just from what he has accomplished but the rom is nto for me. (of course i also dont like ADW but yuo can switch that even on CM)
Anyway basically if yuo know you arent going to use the sense ui then i suggest just removing it and the htc sense widgets. I have a script now that i flash after each rom install /upgrade to remove sense and all the extra htc sense widgets (at least i am pretty sure i got them all) and a few things i dont use (ie peer networking apps cardock etc)

cm6 v.s. Fresh 3.2 ?

Ok Im all backed up and ready to give it a go. I just have a few questions.
I don't use the Sense Launcher and have almost nothing on my home screens. just the scrolling dock at the bottom. launcher pro.
What are some things I am going to lose?
What is the differences in the Camera? Details?
What are the differences in the Dialer?
I like the dialer on Fresh 3.2 because of the FB integration.
I don't use 4G
I have not used HDMI as my flatscreen has a CPU connected already.
Is it possible to have the gallery from 3.2 with the FB pictures tab? or is that a sense thing?
Basically I don't know what all is strictly sense.

the default aosp dialer has what i consider to be a fault. you can't just spell out the name of contact. so i started using DialerOne.
dont' forget to check out both CM6 related threads (both are a bit quiet, but will answer many of the questions you may cross...search is your friend)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=735596
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=729802
not sure on the FB stuff since I don't use it except to fill in the pics in my contact list.
give it a whirl. it will be a bit different.
enjoy.

Thanks Draginmagik (sportbike rider?) I had already thought out what I wanted to ask while at work and only had time to ask while on lunch. Figured Id get some input from some people who had used both but your input is appreciated to. I forgot about dialer one. That is one of my favorite things about the dialer I have. I tried Dialer One on The moment but couldn't get it to come up with the green button. I guess thats not a problem with the evo.

A few things ive noticed in Fresh 3.2 Vs Cyanogen mod is that...
Fresh's battery life (by itself, no kernal flashed) is by far the best of any of the ROMS ive used.
I like the sense camera sooooooo much more than the default android camera so thats a no brainer for me.
I do like the AOSP call history though, its much easier to navigate to and through.
Overall, im running Cyanogen right now but ill probably go back to Fresh later tonight... the battery difference is amazing.

Reading a little more I don't see where Sprint vvm / weird text message is there or not. I hated that on the Hero AOSP roms. Also want to get opinions on GPS as i need it to work at the end of this week. I will be flashing this tonight, just want to get some feedback so dont need the "just try it" post. Again, Im just trying to get a comparison so I know what to look for faster after I flash to be sure I like it before I head home this weekend. Once I get on the road and get back home, phone playtime is over until I get caught up at home . hahaha.

wanfaltm said:
A few things ive noticed in Fresh 3.2 Vs Cyanogen mod is that...
Fresh's battery life (by itself, no kernal flashed) is by far the best of any of the ROMS ive used.
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Have you tried Kings ASOP kernrel? Im using #3 BFS and its great if I dont use the phone but it seems to suck down pretty quick when the phone wakes up. I'm over the battery thing, I just started carrying my usb cable in my back pocket and hit up a usb plug when I see one. lol But thanks for the info. Ill keep an eye on that too.
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I like the sense camera sooooooo much more than the default android camera so thats a no brainer for me.
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Can you explain the difference? I just figured out on the Fresh camera that if you touch the screen it focuses on that spot. Awesome feature. Wish my real camera did that.

yamaford said:
Have you tried Kings ASOP kernrel? Im using #3 BFS and its great if I dont use the phone but it seems to suck down pretty quick when the phone wakes up. I'm over the battery thing, I just started carrying my usb cable in my back pocket and hit up a usb plug when I see one. lol But thanks for the info. Ill keep an eye on that too.
Can you explain the difference? I just figured out on the Fresh camera that if you touch the screen it focuses on that spot. Awesome feature. Wish my real camera did that.
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not sure how the stock CM6 kernel is. a few days ago the CM6 nightly was upped to the .34 kernel. the custom ROM's are mostly on the .32 kernel still. i ran Kings on CM and it was 'ok'. the UI was smooth but the battery life reminded me of my previous stock kernels. perhaps as he rolls out more kernels that will be adjusted.
Cyanogen wrote the camera app in CM6. it also has the point touch focus. it has been much improved from the default aosp camera.
c'mon...make ur nandroid and jump in the beautiful cyan colored waters.

DraginMagik said:
Cyanogen wrote the camera app in CM6. it also has the point touch focus. it has been much improved from the default aosp camera.
c'mon...make ur nandroid and jump in the beautiful cyan colored waters.
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All nanded up and flashed and restored most of my apps. Pandora sounds great. Ill test it in the shop but in the hotel its loud! I didn't Know that was a feature.
I liked the look of the dialer until the phone rang. YUK!
Im trying to finish up my Manup them but not sure if the ZIP I already have for the notification bar will work with CM6
The camera work good so far, as long as the pictures take good im OK with that. I hate 3d gallery, always have. its on my list of things to fix.
I downloaded the one in the link. Your on nightlys right? do they seem stable enough for you? whats the best way to try those out? The github link is kinda over my head.

DraginMagik said:
Cyanogen wrote the camera app in CM6. it also has the point touch focus. it has been much improved from the default aosp camera.
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Cant forget having the ability to zoom while recording video. That's one of the big pluses of CM.

Well I found that the stock notification bar zip that I had on file won't work. I got the little blue android of death. After a quick reflash of cm6 all is well. still need that manup theme.

i'm on the 9/15 nightly. i think it was the 'swipe away items from the notification bar' feature or maybe a camera update that got me to flash up from the CM6final.
running it with -snap 7.6bfs kernel
currently, the CM6nightlys have slowed down so you just kinda keep an eye on the thread for nifty new features or updates...other than that, it's been very very stable for me since well before CM6final was released.

CM6 vs Vaelpak

I am thinking about flashing CM6 this weekend just to see what it's like. I have been on Vaelpak 2.2 and been very happy with it. I tried some of the sense roms first (Baked and Myn mainly) and didn't think I would like a non-sense rom but I am digging Vael w/Launcher Pro and haven't really missed sense.
I know that the ultimate test will be to try it out myself and I plan to. I am also not trying to start another blanket "which one is best thread" but I would like to hear some thoughts from some of you Rom Warriors that have spent some decent time with both to see what I should expect as far as these two are concerned.
Other factors: I am not in a 4G area, HDMI isn't important (right now anyways) and I never listed to the FM radio anyways. I also have one of the Chinese batteries on the way, so as long as the weight of it don't scare me off, I hopefully won't have battery issues with either rom.
With those factors in the mix, can some of you offer your informed opinions of what I should expect to see/miss if I flash CM6?
I think both have new versions cooking (see what I did thar) so just give me your thoughts on the current versions.
Thanks a bunch!

I am doing that right now but I am coming from Fresh. So far don't like it. No Market- so far, I found a "fix" but it doesn't work, so I have a phone with web and that is about it!! Need to search some more but tied up with kids etc...
-Art

HTCinPA said:
I am doing that right now but I am coming from Fresh. So far don't like it. No Market- so far, I found a "fix" but it doesn't work, so I have a phone with web and that is about it!! Need to search some more but tied up with kids etc...
-Art
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Did you install gapps, per chance?

AOSP is something you either like or dislike ... there is no middle ground. I have used CM6 extensively, but I also maintain a nice "Sense" rom, for whenever I'm in a 4g area. On that point, I may not need it much longer, as CM6 will be going 4g very shortly. Also looks like HDMI will be working soon ... FM Radio has already been added.
Basic aosp, like in Cyanogen's rom is very quick, very smooth, and just works. You will hear about people who are having an issue here and there, but it's almost always "user error". That doesn't mean that CM6 is perfect, but it is highly evolved and almost there.
Most of the people coming from "sense" will not like it. Although it doesn't have all the widgets and stuff ... almost everything can be replicated. For example, I like the look of the clock/weather widget and so I use "fancy widget", an almost exact replica. I also like launcher pro, and it works perfectly. I could go on and on, but you will need to decide for yourself.
Do a nand back up of whatever you're currently using, and jump in. And don't give up after a couple of hours. As with everything new, there is a learning curve ... and you should do some reading/exploring. Ask lots of questions ... there is plenty of help available ... all be it, with the usual XDA "style". I will leave you with this final thought ... Cyanogen is without a doubt, the foremost Android developer ever.

CM6 will be smoother, less lockups and just overall run better. I haven't run Vael's so I don't know if he uses AOSP contacts and dialer, but I prefer the AOSP contacts and text apps. I download Dialer One from the market to get T9 dialing.
Integration with facebook contacts and twitter is much better on CM6. CM6 may have 4G working soon, FM Radio is working now, and HDMI is close as well. The camera app on CM6 is leagues better than any of the other camera apps.
Just make sure when you install cm6 that you install the Gapps zip since you need that to get maps, market, gmail and the basic google services.

I have a lot of time with both roms. Vaelpak's rom is fantastic and his support is quick and spot on. probably the developer that is the most reachable when you have a problem or question. Very smooth, stable, and fast. CM6 takes a lot of fine tuning to get all the apps you want and get it set up to exactly the way you want it. Its so damn fast and smooth that people in 4g areas run the rom anyway because it's performance out weighs the lack of 4g and hdmi. And snap's kernels and his support team are second to none. When 4g makes it to CM I will run that rom as my daily exclusively on my EVO until the new dual core phones come out or the EVO 2.
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Convince me to root and rom

Long story short, I got a new epic because I broke the screen on my old one. I was running srf 1.2 and genocide 1.1. I liked how you could putg themes and custome programs on, also getting rid of bloat ware. But I did not see that much of an improvemet as far as performancee goes. The 3g speed I think was actually a little slower on my old one and it did not seem to load anything that much faster. So I don't know if I want to do it all over again.
So people convince me why I should.

No one can convince you. Either you do, or you dont. But, lets put it this way. I stayed stock for 6 months, 5 on DI18, and one one EC05. Ever since I rooted and started flashing themes and mods, I could never go back to stock.
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zanderman112 said:
No one can convince you. Either you do, or you dont. But, lets put it this way. I stayed stock for 6 months, 5 on DI18, and one one EC05. Ever since I rooted and started flashing themes and mods, I could never go back to stock.
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Same here.

>Keyboard lag fix
>Screen rotation lag fix
>Improved scripts
>Improved processing
>Overclocking
>Themes
Need I say more?

Root, sure. Look at all the things you can do once you root and install CWM, like backup and restore, adblock, delete system apps, etc. And it only takes a few minutes.
Rom, nah;
I keep trying other roms but I always end up back at stock. Nothing is as rock solid reliable as the stock roms, and unless you can live with some stuff not working or you want to constantly tinker I haven't found anything I like better than stock.
Now when CM7 is finished ask me again.

Stock has limitations and battery drag......drove me nuts......Thanks to XDA and SDX....that has changed my life!! Right now CM7.1 Kang running around 3200 tweaked, and just updated new fixes. There is so Much you can do with Gingerbread around the Corner we are going to see much more. Thanks to developers and our comments/suggestions.
Sooooo.....like Duhhhh...why wouldnt you want to root!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Need help finding ROMs, choosing which to try

I am trying to flash my Inc with a new ROM for the first time, but it seems like more than half the ROMs on this page are either removed by the developer or cant be downloaded because the download links are dead.
Any tips on what to try first, based on what available still? The only thing I am concerned with is that the ROM is stable and compatible with as many of the stock functions as possible, stuff like broken radios is not what I am looking for right now. Would be kinda cool to try one as different from stock as possible. Does CM7 work well on the Inc? I keep seeing people talking about stuff that is broken with it.

Miui 2.3.2
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Ice Cream Sandwich. Abduction by Hanger84 is smoother than the Sense ROMs.
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Abduction is good to try if you want to experice ice cream.... but prepare for some bugs and missing features ( ie Camcorder, camera, & flash on websites and netflix) I suggest one of the gingerbread Roms or Froyo Roms. CM 7 or 8 should be fine, but you loose some of the things you may be accustomed to in Sense (Widgets). But there are pretty good apps that can do what sense does, you just have to look for them.

I'm using CM 7.2 RC1 (RC2 crashes right away for me) with latest ICS Incredikernal and SmartassV2 governor, fully over-clocked. Never crashes, everything works but, of course, 720p recording. I even found decent settings for auto-brightness (Make about 16 levels, start out at ~70, go up in ~5 point increments, then increase. Set Window Length to 5 secs). I have tried three ICS roms but always went back.
I'm using the new Go Launcher but it has a couple of bugs. Clear its data to get the large icons if you are stuck on small. To change settings on the large weather clock you have to do it via the small weather clock.

I use CyanogenMod 7.2. Along with Chad/Tiny's Incredikernel, Jermaine/Tiny's EXT4All mod, and Launcher Pro. Speedy and battery efficient. The latest RC should be fine, I'm on one of the nightlies and have been using Pons' KANGs when his computer was still working.
In addition to Sonny Sekhon's Ice Cream Sandwich CM7 Theme.
If you like the stock ROM, and want something stable and based off of it, Liberation 3.0 is a good choice. It is basically a rooted, debloated, stock ROM. I keep a copy on my SD card incase I need access to EPST or just feel like using Sense.
ICS is getting there, but the laggy animations and general speed have kept me away. It seems to me that the current hardware acceleration isn't 100% implemented. But I have never used ICS outside of the Incredible. So I don't have room to compare.

I'm with the majority here. CM 7.2 RC2 is great. I actually have stock kernel though, I am not sure if performance is better with incredikernel but I can tell you that CM7 is TONS better than stock in terms of battery life, customization, and overall android experience. I like sense but on the Inc, it's like they stopped trying...
P.S. - I also use GO Launcher EX with kovdev's ICS theme.

Well I just switched from Abduction to CM9 and so far CM9 is much better!!
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Batttie said:
Well I just switched from Abduction to CM9 and so far CM9 is much better!!
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See if Youtube works. Didn't for me. I ended up using the Go Launcher anyway so the experience was the same for me. There weren't as many stock apps like Car Home and the music widget is not the big one. Things like Phone and Calculator open slowly. Never did crash tho or even lag.

Hi, I am new to XDA and was looking for some links to the cm9 rom for DINC. I am currently running aokp_inc_build-25 and its nice but I have had some issues with it specifically with the camera not working properly.
Thank you in advance for the assistance.

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See if Youtube works. Didn't for me. I ended up using the Go Launcher anyway so the experience was the same for me. There weren't as many stock apps like Car Home and the music widget is not the big one. Things like Phone and Calculator open slowly. Never did crash tho or even lag.
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I use a app called play on for YouTube Netflix and a lot of other video sites.. yea the camera fix seems to break playback on YouTube.. but I'm optimistic that those issues will be worked out since cm9 is still in development. What I love is that every feature u find in other Asop roms u can get apps that do that... so u can customize it better for your own personal taste and still have better stability!!!!!
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Ok before I started getting replies here I dl'd Touch of Blue and Stock+, tried ToB for the week and it was ok but started to crash and lag a lot. The latter may have been due to my SetCPU settings, I dunno, but it was getting hung up on simple apps, and I did not like a couple things about it, like getting calls when the screen is off required you to unlock it, then unlock it again at the receiving call screen. Also didnt like the battery meter.
Just installed Stock+ and immediately realized it wouldn't work at all when I saw that the App Data partition was still at 150MB. Thats the whole reason I rooted, so there is no way I am using a ROM that is eventually gonna give me the Low space messages again.
GOnna try the ones you guys suggested now

I like Wildstangs stock ROM, and gtiny's kernel. I used root app delete to debloat it. And run the on demand deadline settings and can go 11 hours on a full charge with heavy use.
I also like the last stable release of CM7.1.0 it is smoking fast and way less issues then the nightlies or kangs to me.
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CM7.2 couldn't figure out how to add my Google account. Also couldnt disable the camera shutter sound.
Tried Liberation but the App Data partition is still only 150MB; as soon as I restore my apps its gonna be out of space again.

ALL ROMs for the Incredible are going to have a 150 MB data/data partition. It's the way HTC made it. The only way around it is with the EXT4All mod. More information here. The file you're looking for to remove the limit is "Convert2Ext4_no_data_limit_normal_dalvik.zip".
And there is an options in the CM7 sound settings to disable the shutter sound. Called "Mute camera shutter".

Ok I found the camera sound setting, thanks. Any advice on getting the Google account to work? The Account settings were trying to setup an email thing, not my Google account
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Figured out that I need to flash the Google apps pack on CM7 to get that all to work, but ClockworkMod kept failing to mount the pack when I tried to install it. Now I am back on Liberation, because at least here I have my Google account with contacts, but I cannot get the EXT4 fix to work. I download it, open it with Clockwork, tell it to reboot and apply, but it fails to mount it, just like the Google apps pack problem. Using Clockwork 5.0.2.0