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CM7 cons?

I know that CM7 is a great rom, but are there any cons or known bugs in everyday usage?
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It's stable and has a good battery life, I haven't encountered any bugs and judging by the change log RC1 has everything solved except 720p recording which isn't even a stock feature but an improvement.

I'm curious also, so you're saying every feature that works on stock (minus motoblur) will also work as it should (or better) under CM7 ?
There's nothing like no wi-fi or gps not working or anything at all ?

techguyone said:
I'm curious also, so you're saying every feature that works on stock (minus motoblur) will also work as it should (or better) under CM7 ?
There's nothing like no wi-fi or gps not working or anything at all ?
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I use Wifi daily, and have tested GPS briefly - no problems for me. I've actually found Wifi to work better than in my original t-Mobile 2.1 ROM.

for me have one con - the dialer without number t9
always i have to using contacts to make a call..

Jean-DrEaD said:
for me have one con - the dialer without number t9
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There are plenty of dialers on the market. I opted for Dialer One, though it's quite an overkill, all the options it has. Ray Dialer is cool as well, a bit lighter and faster. Both have T9 and are free even.

Main bug is flicker when recording video... jumps when playing back as well.
But it's got awesome battery life and speed!
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A very good thread!
So far, we always heard about pros on CM7. Now, we can get opposite info in one thread. It's good for developer and user. Long live to CM7!

It's better than the stock roms in every way.
My quadrant on UK stock 2.2 was 900. On CM7 it's 2200
Gallery (4 photos then crash, no picasa albums), facebook (did not sync properly) and unexpected 100% processor usage -> battery drain are other reasons to ditch stock roms and go fo CM7.
The defy is a fantastic phone, once you take the motorola software off it!
Olly

Gusar321 said:
There are plenty of dialers on the market. I opted for Dialer One, though it's quite an overkill, all the options it has. Ray Dialer is cool as well, a bit lighter and faster. Both have T9 and are free even.
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i know that, but i spoke one con of CM7... almost others roms have this function and i don't know why haven't on CM7... should be have a option to enable/disable... how knows in future releases... ;D

cm7 is realy great
its best
thx very much Quarx
i hope Quarx make cm7 for atrix too

i recently installed rc1 and the only bug ive noticed is laggy video recording (playback is flawless - not the laggy recorded one - even in hd). and when booting in android, launcherpro force closes, but after a restart it works fine. cm7 is really a superb rom, would never go back motos ****ty sw...
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Aside from poor camera and video recording performance, CM7 is better in every way than moto's ROM. I'm sure quarx and co. will fix those bugs real soon.

CM7 is the best ROM running under Android 2.3.4 but it's main problem is the battery consumption (it's just draining two, even three times faster than Froyo) In other every aspect, it's just awesome.

This is why I get twitchy about installing anything.
Person A says ' oh the battery life is awesome'
Person B says 'its got a big battery problem'
Who to believe....

Been using CM7 for more than a month already I think. I started with Beta6. Currently on a nightly earlier than RC1. Only a few things that I noticed that are not so good.
- Camera quality is not as good
- Video camera recording skips frames
It seems like most issues are with the camera. Speed is good with CM7.
I noticed that if battery life is not as good all that is needed is to check that you have the correct baseband set and to reboot the phone if you already have the correct baseband.
I have never had any issues with wifi or 3g so far. GPS I dont really use.
Hope that helps

Caveat emptor: It makes your Defy runs faster and more updated and deny you the opportunity to explain to your spouse the rationale of buying a new phone every 12-month.
Man, isn't that hideous?

Hmm no one else reported any GPS issue, so I guess it's just me. It's not able to find and lock my position. Will have to look into it. Currently on Beta 6

techguyone said:
This is why I get twitchy about installing anything.
Person A says ' oh the battery life is awesome'
Person B says 'its got a big battery problem'
Who to believe....
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mine battery life is great
if u set network on 2g
use auto task killer
and display time out to 15 sec
and with normal use . battery use about 2.5 - 3 days for mine

The bugs I found are the auto brightness not stable & video recording can't turn on the flash light,others all perfect for me,including battery life(same as Froyo) & GPS locked within 10s under clear sky
*I am using full sbf from the official Froyo 2.2 SEA18,just flash the RC1 & gapps then good to go

CM9 vs CM7; Reasons for CM9

Hello,
I was very very excited about the news that CM9 now supports HWA and so is fully compatible with our beloved Defy.
After reading all the positive comments about no bugs, no lags, everything great, I installed it myself (from scratch) and must say that I was disappointed.
I used CM7 for a long time and it is still not bug free, but CM9 is far from RC or Stable I must say.
- boot time is long.
- Apps need much time to load
- overall snappieness is not as great as discribed
- quite a few apps do not respond and hang with a pop-up window about WAIT/KILL/REPORT
What I would like to know is: What is the advantage of CM9/ICS over CM7/GB?
What I love about ICS is the much more mature UI.
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Collected PRO's:
- ability to display (and change) all volume controls at the same time
- better Apps, in some cases (e.g. GMail)
- much nicer folders (haven't found a launcher with similar feature for CM7)
- display of recent apps/running apps A LOT better
- ICS controls look and work better (e.g a scrolling wheel for time selection)
- mature UI

Well, the cm9 the way it is today is a very initial port for a device that was in every way locked down from motorola for it does not exist and devs heroically tried to overcome difficulties.
It is not even a RC yet. So if you say cm7 is faster, more stable, better battery performance, you are probably correct, because its development is more mature . But why the the hell you are comparing them? What's your point in saying you are disappointed with the CM9?
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yes, so far, cm9 is not mature, you can stick to cm7 for a while then come back

why do I compare two versions of a firmware, well, I'd like to know the true advantages over cm7 so I can decide if its worth using it. i tried it and for now i think stableism is more important... but i'll be to curious soon anyway.

cm7 rocks
Ive been testing cm9 with and without HWA, both eppys and fuzz's builds. This weekend i decided to try Fuzz's cm7. I cant find any bugs and I was shocked at how much faster it was and scrolling home screens is smoother ( i use Mihome launcher with the superb leather theme! ). I wont be switching to cm9.... but cm10 is another matter.

gator123 said:
Ive been testing cm9 with and without HWA, both eppys and fuzz's builds. This weekend i decided to try Fuzz's cm7. I cant find any bugs and I was shocked at how much faster it was and scrolling home screens is smoother ( i use Mihome launcher with the superb leather theme! ). I wont be switching to cm9.... but cm10 is another matter.
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I am expecting cm10 too, lol

benny856694 said:
I am expecting cm10 too, lol
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me too... I was dissapointed about CM9 too, because i thought it would be faster with the HWA enabled but it didn't happen. You're right when you say the UI looks more mature than gb's one (in fact i LOVE the ics UI). I hope all the bugs can be fixed and have a good ROM after all.

Have you guys tried the fast black edition 1.2???
Best and fastest ICS i´ve used. There should be a new version coming soon, since 1.2 is before de HWA stuff.

Trying to summarize, why I favor CM9 over CM7, despite the shortcomings:
- ability to display (and change) all volume controls at the same time
- better Apps, in some cases (e.g. GMail)
- much nicer folders (haven't found a launcher with similar feature for CM7)
- display of recent apps/running apps A LOT better
I'm sure I'm forgetting something here... but anyway, that's what's important for me.

Some of you guys are missing the point of a development forum badly as well as what cm9 port represents. Are you disappointed, seriously?
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I was disappointed because expectations were high due to overly optimistic comments in the according threads.
On the other hand I am very thankful that we have the opportunity to use and test ICS and performance and bugs get better eventually... I hope so!
Sincerely.

measel said:
I was disappointed because expectations were high due to overly optimistic comments in the according threads.
On the other hand I am very thankful that we have the opportunity to use and test ICS and performance and bugs get better eventually... I hope so!
Sincerely.
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Yes, we're complaning about "minimal bugs" compared with other devices which can't run ICS from the start...
They said they're working to release a RC so... we'll wait

Mettanine said:
Trying to summarize, why I favor CM9 over CM7, despite the shortcomings:
- ability to display (and change) all volume controls at the same time
- better Apps, in some cases (e.g. GMail)
- much nicer folders (haven't found a launcher with similar feature for CM7)
- display of recent apps/running apps A LOT better
I'm sure I'm forgetting something here... but anyway, that's what's important for me.
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I agree and want to add:
+ ICS controls looks and works better - E.g a Scrolling wheel for time selection
Jelly bean going source today..

I would anytime go on CM9 then CM7 for the obvious reason that it looks beautiful and I love the settings page of it! It has good features. I have a neo V so I know what it feels to have ICS on your device

Mettanine said:
Trying to summarize, why I favor CM9 over CM7, despite the shortcomings:
- ability to display (and change) all volume controls at the same time
- better Apps, in some cases (e.g. GMail)
- much nicer folders (haven't found a launcher with similar feature for CM7)
- display of recent apps/running apps A LOT better
I'm sure I'm forgetting something here... but anyway, that's what's important for me.
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Exactly. I almost considered switching back to CM7 until CM9 was a bit more polished, but I realized I'd loose out on the MUCH SUPERIOR gmail app, and others, as well as the refinements in settings and controls.
For the record, anyone looking for a nearly identical ICS launcher (to trebuchet) for CM7 should give Holo Launcher a try. In many ways, it is more feature rich than trebuchet. I couldn't link to the play store page. (new user)

Are any of the ICS ROMs daily driver ready?

I've read through all of the individual ROM threads, as well as any question threads, and it seems like none of them are quite ready.
I run CM 7.2 with essentially no modifications, for reference. S-off, CWM 3.0.0.8.
Thanks in advance for your input.

nitzua said:
I've read through all of the individual ROM threads, as well as any question threads, and it seems like none of them are quite ready.
I run CM 7.2 with essentially no modifications, for reference. S-off, CWM 3.0.0.8.
Thanks in advance for your input.
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What are you missing from them to be a daily driver? I've had zero issues on my CM9 build and you can find two options in the development thread that are extremely stable.
The only thing not working with ICS is the stock camcorder to my knowledge, but third party apps still work if you need it.

Zimeron said:
What are you missing from them to be a daily driver? I've had zero issues on my CM9 build and you can find two options in the development thread that are extremely stable.
The only thing not working with ICS is the stock camcorder to my knowledge, but third party apps still work if you need it.
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I'm wondering the same thing.
Almost everything works from what I used.
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Zimeron said:
The only thing not working with ICS is the stock camcorder to my knowledge, but third party apps still work if you need it.
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Abduction ICS and Abduction the 4th Kind have the Camcorder working good.
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I can't get mlb at bat to play mlb.tv on both DInc and Nook Color running CM9. Not a location issues, it tries but says Error-Can not play video. All other video seems to work.
Can't see any other issues with CM9, runs ok but maybe a little slower than CM7.

Depends what your standards for a daily driver are. If you mean a phone you can use to make calls, use some apps, without a lot of hassle, then yeah, they're daily drivers. If you want perfection, no glitches or bugs ever, then no.
The camcorder is the biggest issue for me (I was running Evervolv, but they're all built on the same base). Yeah, the camcorder kind of works, but playback is broken, and it's not nearly as smooth as stock. Also, I find that after a while (a day or two), things just start to get laggy. Not awful, but it doesn't fly like it does on stock. The graphics (especially the home screens and the app drawer) are actually way smoother on ICS than on stock, but it takes longer to actually get your apps opened and running. I'm currently rockin' Ice Cream Senseless with Holo Launcher. ( I also spent some time using Touch of Blue, I liked it a lot, but the 2am reboots kept making me miss my alarm clock and be late for work...) My current setup gives me 95% of what I liked about ICS, and it's very snappy and extremely stable. No doubt I'll be back to craving Ice Cream Sandwich (or Jelly Bean - lol) in another week or so, but I always end up coming back to this one.

Smoothness is the biggest issue, IMO.
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I used CM a9 build before going to the SIII and it worked the best for me. Was using Evervolv for a while, but that soon became very unstable.

bucks130 said:
I used CM a9 build before going to the SIII and it worked the best for me. Was using Evervolv for a while, but that soon became very unstable.
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I ran drk.hd's CM a9 for a while and it worked well except for the known video camera issue. The only reason I changed is because I got flash happy.
I went to mamarley's CM9 w/linearo and it is running very smooth (still no stock video camera). Although, I had to use the ics incredikernel w/HWA because mamarley's kernel was not communicating with my touch screen.

Also, I find that after a while (a day or two), things just start to get laggy. Not awful, but it doesn't fly like it does on stock.
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This is the general consensus that scares me away.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1719879
[ROM] Touchwiz 5.1.4 Fixed Location
I been on this rom for a bit. No major complaints. No CC and voice search will crash using navigation. But very smooth overall. Daily driver worthy for sure.
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I've been using the Linaro optimized CM9 ROM with the included Mamarley kernel.
The only issue I've run into is a problem with the bluetooth connecting to my car and not being able to play the call audio through the car speakers. I "think" they're working on a fix for it.

EDIT: SUPER sorry wrong forum

txlnghrnpe said:
I ran drk.hd's CM a9 for a while and it worked well except for the known video camera issue. The only reason I changed is because I got flash happy.
I went to mamarley's CM9 w/linearo and it is running very smooth (still no stock video camera). Although, I had to use the ics incredikernel w/HWA because mamarley's kernel was not communicating with my touch screen.
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is your's a amoled or slcd? I ended up having to do the same thing and I am just curious.

I've been on MIUI v4 since May and it's been very solid with the exception that Netflix doesn't work for me. It plays about 2 seconds of sound (no video) and then just a black screen. Going forward or backward in the video doesn't do anything to help it pick back up. MIUI GB worked great with Netflix previous to the ICS build. I thought maybe it was HWA related, but I've tried a few different kernels and haven't had any luck. Youtube plays just fine.
I am going to flash cm9 in a moment to see if Netflix works there.
edit: Flashed cm9 -- still the same issue with Netflix. Plays sound for about 2 seconds, then stops. Anyone else with this problem?

Cheesethief said:
Abduction ICS and Abduction the 4th Kind have the Camcorder working good.
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Loving Abduction the 4th Kind, thanks for the tip
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Aeckert said:
edit: Flashed cm9 -- still the same issue with Netflix. Plays sound for about 2 seconds, then stops. Anyone else with this problem?
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I think it's a problem related to the camcorder not working. I'm no Android programmer, but I'd bet it's because of a codec issue. Shame that barely any ROMs support a working camcorder.
Have you tried Evervolv 2.2.0p3? I hear that ROM has a working camcorder, but haven't tested it myself.

drk.hd CM9a9 with Chad/Tiny Incredikernel HWA
Working great as a daily driver, camcorder/netflix/youtube (occasionally) dont work.
Im very happy with it otherwise.

Why do you like your ROM?

What rom do you have on your phone?
Why do you like it?
What dont you like about it?
Im curious to see what everyone is running
So far ive ran aokp, paranoid android, and cm10.
Im currently on cm10 and enjoy how professional it is. (explaining the swag button to potent galaxy buyers was kind of tough)
I would have kept paranoid android but the profiles didnt work and i didnt know how to use the dpi changer.
I also started this thread to see who uses android development ROMS instead of the original development ones
Im mainly interested in the non original android development roms users and their oppinions but everyone's answer is appreciated

My favorite was Codename Android, besides one major flaw that myself and very few others experienced: Impossible to send SMS longer than 160 characters, regardless of settings/reflashes/apn/etc. Just because it was the smoothest ROM for me.
I value UI smoothness above all else and have yet to find a ROM that is truly stutter free.
CM10 is ok, but if you go to clock and swipe to the side to go to timer it stutters like a pentium 2 running Crysis: Warhead.
Stock ICS ROM's lag, as well Facebook/third party app scrolling has constant stutter reminiscing of SGS1
JB Leaks (LIF, LIG, LIH) give me blackscreen reboots once in a while, although noticeably smoother than ICS.
I didn't mention battery life as quite frankly I can get a day of usage with every ROM I have tried so far which is nearly all of them.
I think I'm using stock ROM right now as I was fed up and just restored an old nandroid... I guess its ok, everything just works, lots of stutter's though. Doesn't have that premium feel you expect of a device at this price point.
inB4 go buy iphone5

scorpion667 said:
My favorite was Codename Android, besides one major flaw that myself and very few others experienced: Impossible to send SMS longer than 160 characters, regardless of settings/reflashes/apn/etc. Just because it was the smoothest ROM for me.
I value UI smoothness above all else and have yet to find a ROM that is truly stutter free.
CM10 is ok, but if you go to clock and swipe to the side to go to timer it stutters like a pentium 2 running Crysis: Warhead.
Stock ICS ROM's lag, as well Facebook/third party app scrolling has constant stutter reminiscing of SGS1
JB Leaks (LIF, LIG, LIH) give me blackscreen reboots once in a while, although noticeably smoother than ICS.
I didn't mention battery life as quite frankly I can get a day of usage with every ROM I have tried so far which is nearly all of them.
I think I'm using stock ROM right now as I was fed up and just restored an old nandroid... I guess its ok, everything just works, lots of stutter's though. Doesn't have that premium feel you expect of a device at this price point.
inB4 go buy iphone5
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Run AOKP then, it's extremely fast and smooth.

Longcat14 said:
Run AOKP then, it's extremely fast and smooth.
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I have tried multiple versions of it, still stutters on homescreen sometimes. Same Timer stutter as CM10 and annoying alarm bug (although there is a fix, it's inconvenient). As well the Nova launcher that AOKP uses, and pretty much all third party launchers have a little input lag due to non native integration or no hardware acceleration (not sure which, but the input lag is there).
Anyway I'll take my fluidity rant somewhere else, people seem happy with the current state of the phone.

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I have tried multiple versions of it, still stutters on homescreen sometimes. Same Timer stutter as CM10 and annoying alarm bug (although there is a fix, it's inconvenient). As well the Nova launcher that AOKP uses, and pretty much all third party launchers have a little input lag due to non native integration or no hardware acceleration (not sure which, but the input lag is there).
Anyway I'll take my fluidity rant somewhere else, people seem happy with the current state of the phone.
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The childishness of aokp turned me off since i looked at the boot logo but my gripes can all be easily fixed /hidden.
I havent noticed the speed difference but i do see tge lag you speak about but ive dismissed it as a hardware being underpowered to the rom issue and dont notice it as much anymore
So im still looking for answers from non original development users but to everyone else
>> What are the Cm10 vs aokp major Differences?

Here is a quick look at some of the differences
http://techie-buzz.com/android/aokp-vs-cm10.html
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Blazer Rom.
It's minimalistic, faster than stock without overclocking, great battery right out of the box, and EVERYTHING WORKS. take that jelly bean.
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Because its my ROM. There are many like it, but this one is mine.

I'm currently using cm10 and I find very awesome. It's fast and has a lot of great features. I tried AOKP and decided that IMO cm10 was closer to actual 4.1, but AOKP had many more features.
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I had been running AOKP for a week or so, I like its customization better than that of other ROMs.
I just yesterday found a new ROM called Paranoid KANGdroid. It pulls from CM10, AOKP, and Paranoid Android. Has pretty much all the features of all three. So much customization, I love it. Not fully stable, though, its only a few days old.

Going back to Stock ROM - Done!

I am sure this topic has been beaten to death already but I still wanted to share my experience with custom ROMs and finally going back to the STOCK ROM. If beginners want to try out Custom ROMs, may be they can read this beginner's post.
First the ritual - Android community is great. ROM developers are great minds at work! Thanks for doing all the hard work and showing me whats in the Custom ROM world.
I started out with simple rooting of my phone to get tethering (cheap on my part but I think I pay more than what my carrier offers). After rooting, custom ROM was just so tempting. So I tried a few - CM, AOKP, Carbon. Honestly, out of all, CM10.0 was the most stable for me. Things I loved:
1. Battery Life - Can't say enough. There is so much junk that runs in background on STOCK ROMs.
2. 4.2.2 JB - Better than 4.1.2 but then, not by miles.
3. Ability to flash ROMs over the weekends You know it.
4. Utilities like Titanium backup and others that needed Root access.
5. Tether - super like.
Things I hated:
1. Force closures - OMG I couldn't understand how the STOCK ROMs are so robust or Is it that the Apps are tested on Stock ROMs very well that they don't crash. Countless failures for Instagram, Email, Camera, BT etc.
2. Camera functionality - I give 10 out of 10 to Samsung in creating great camera app. I am a heavy smartphone camera user. The 4.2.2 camera app was so laggy on my GS3. The user interface sucked (circle). No meter mode. Bad panorama mode, HDR mode and worst low light photos.
3. On one of the custom ROMs, I had horrible issues with making and receiving phone calls (Yes it can go that bad).
4. Bluetooth pairing with devices. BT crashed a lot while music was interrupted with incoming calls.
All in all, I am now happy that I am back to the STOCK ROM with This Link Many thanks to the Member.
There is a lot of excitement and good things about the Custom ROMs but if you are like me who is not a super power user, there is a lot to consider before jumping.
Happy Monday!

In CM 10.1, the FC issues were fixed for me. This applies for most current AOSP roms. I have not had any issues with camera lag either. I will admit that the stock camera is more robust with options but there are third party apps that help minimize the feeling of loss.
Regarding testing, this is what goes on here. The difference is you see the testing phases while you do not with the manufacturer. In addition, many of the drivers and hardware info is proprietary so developing drivers that are stable can be a hit and miss affair.
On the same note, not every phone and user is the same and the experience will be different for each. ROMs will possibly work differently across the same models of phone due to minor variations in quality which are nearly impossible to catch during the manufacturing process due to nearly microscopic differences.
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aybarrap1 said:
In CM 10.1, the FC issues were fixed for me. This applies for most current AOSP roms. I have not had any issues with camera lag either. I will admit that the stock camera is more robust with options but there are third party apps that help minimize the feeling of loss.
Regarding testing, this is what goes on here. The difference is you see the testing phases while you do not with the manufacturer. In addition, many of the drivers and hardware info is proprietary so developing drivers that are stable can be a hit and miss affair.
On the same note, not every phone and user is the same and the experience will be different for each. ROMs will possibly work differently across the same models of phone due to minor variations in quality which are nearly impossible to catch during the manufacturing process due to nearly microscopic differences.
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Totally agree with the slight variations in experiences with Custom ROMs. But for some reason, my jump to 10.1 was not smooth with FCs and I quickly made a u-turn to 10.0 and then ultimately to the STOCK ROM. Camera Apps like Camera Zoom are very good and they do provide more options like Metering and time lapse (missing in STOCK), they are still not complete (simple example - I can't enable Panorama from CamerZoom). Nevertheless, the experience can be really amazing when things work out but really frustrating when they don't. STOCK has its problems like I am missing my Solid Battery life today :crying:

I think I'm about to go back to stock as well. While I love all the extra features that custom roms offer, all the tinkering and occasional bugginess can take away from the overall experience. At least for me, anyways.
I also had been doing it long enough that I felt really comfortable with all the flashing that I was doing, but would still make the occasional mistake (look at the hilarity I posted in the stupid questions thread today). I'm thinking I'll play it safe, at least for now, before I do something I regret.
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newmind02 said:
I think I'm about to go back to stock as well. While I love all the extra features that custom roms offer, all the tinkering and occasional bugginess can take away from the overall experience. At least for me, anyways.
I also had been doing it long enough that I felt really comfortable with all the flashing that I was doing, but would still make the occasional mistake (look at the hilarity I posted in the stupid questions thread today). I'm thinking I'll play it safe, at least for now, before I do something I regret.
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It is in my opinion that even the stock roms have bugs. At seemingly random times, my alarm clocks on my AT&T S3 just didn't work when running stock. I was almost late for work 3 days in a row because of it (my alarm is set to repeat 5 times a week every week at the exact same time. I never turn it off). In addition, I get the occasional random battery drop that seems to have something to do with the switch between H+ and LTE when on a phone call.
I stuck with the stock rom for a while but now that AOSP roms are stable, I have switched. Whatever bugs are present do not affect me or they are so minor I work around it. It really comes down to what you find to be acceptable for you.
As far as being comfortable and making mistakes, I have done it as well. Being a flashing fiend has made me overconfident a few times and I botched several installs. Luckily I have been so busy of late, that my flashing desire has been on hold.

Never had any force closes.
Never had any lag
Never had any problems on custom Roms.
If you're experiencing and lag, force closes, you're MORE than likely doing something wrong on your end.
This phone doesn't lag. It should lag whatsoever. 1.5Ghz and 2Gs of ram does not create lag.
Touchwiz runs a LOT more stuff in the background.
Just follow instructions on how to flash, what to flash, and what to tweak. And I can guarantee you an awesome experience.
The camera as well. Just took some amazing lightning shots with 4.2.2 camera, on burst mode with 20 pictures taken in less then 3 seconds. No lag what's so ever.
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jayRokk said:
Never had any force closes.
Never had any lag
Never had any problems on custom Roms.
If you're experiencing and lag, force closes, you're MORE than likely doing something wrong on your end.
This phone doesn't lag. It should lag whatsoever. 1.5Ghz and 2Gs of ram does not create lag.
Touchwiz runs a LOT more stuff in the background.
Just follow instructions on how to flash, what to flash, and what to tweak. And I can guarantee you an awesome experience.
The camera as well. Just took some amazing lightning shots with 4.2.2 camera, on burst mode with 20 pictures taken in less then 3 seconds. No lag what's so ever.
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I concur
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techmine said:
I am sure this topic has been beaten to death already but I still wanted to share my experience with custom ROMs and finally going back to the STOCK ROM. If beginners want to try out Custom ROMs, may be they can read this beginner's post.
First the ritual - Android community is great. ROM developers are great minds at work! Thanks for doing all the hard work and showing me whats in the Custom ROM world.
I started out with simple rooting of my phone to get tethering (cheap on my part but I think I pay more than what my carrier offers). After rooting, custom ROM was just so tempting. So I tried a few - CM, AOKP, Carbon. Honestly, out of all, CM10.0 was the most stable for me. Things I loved:
1. Battery Life - Can't say enough. There is so much junk that runs in background on STOCK ROMs.
2. 4.2.2 JB - Better than 4.1.2 but then, not by miles.
3. Ability to flash ROMs over the weekends You know it.
4. Utilities like Titanium backup and others that needed Root access.
5. Tether - super like.
Things I hated:
1. Force closures - OMG I couldn't understand how the STOCK ROMs are so robust or Is it that the Apps are tested on Stock ROMs very well that they don't crash. Countless failures for Instagram, Email, Camera, BT etc.
2. Camera functionality - I give 10 out of 10 to Samsung in creating great camera app. I am a heavy smartphone camera user. The 4.2.2 camera app was so laggy on my GS3. The user interface sucked (circle). No meter mode. Bad panorama mode, HDR mode and worst low light photos.
3. On one of the custom ROMs, I had horrible issues with making and receiving phone calls (Yes it can go that bad).
4. Bluetooth pairing with devices. BT crashed a lot while music was interrupted with incoming calls.
All in all, I am now happy that I am back to the STOCK ROM with This Link Many thanks to the Member.
There is a lot of excitement and good things about the Custom ROMs but if you are like me who is not a super power user, there is a lot to consider before jumping.
Happy Monday!
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I tend to go back and forth between CM10.1 and Stock.
The biggest thing CM misses for me is the camera. Call me a fanboy but I really like what Samsung did to their camera optimizations in TW.
That being said, I don't like TW very much but a custom launcher and a few minor tweaks can make TW tolerable.
For apps running in the background I highly recommend Greenify for keeping apps dormant when you're not using them.
Titanium Backup also has a feature called Freeze that basically does the same thing as Greenify except it takes the app and prevents it from being used at all.
This is good for apps that you never use that come preloaded on the GS3 (AT&T and Samsung bloatware).