Hi,
Im nog allowed to post this link in the development section, so im sorry if its wrong here. Can anyone tell me the differences between the CM7 rom and the oxygen rom? What are the pro's and con's of each rom? Tried a lot of google searches, but couldnt find it.
Patrick
still_the_same said:
Hi,
Im nog allowed to post this link in the development section, so im sorry if its wrong here. Can anyone tell me the differences between the CM7 rom and the oxygen rom? What are the pro's and con's of each rom? Tried a lot of google searches, but couldnt find it.
Patrick
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Depends if you want a technical explanation or simple?
As simple as it gets.. Nothing!
They are both GREAT Rom's by GREAT developers. However, they are also BOTH in "pre-stable" release status. This doesnt mean they arent stable, actually they are both insanely stable. It just means neither is a "Final Product"
Both share most of the same basic features and neither really has a downside or drawbacks.. it's all personal preference. I LOVED Oxygen when I was running it, but for me, the new features/tweaks/bugfixes of the CM7 nightlies just drew me in
Both have their own HBOOT, both support A2SD (though Cm7 is a seperate flashable zip) and both have a pretty stable following as far as theme support..
It really just comes down to you.. read through the threads/changelogs and see if one draws your attention more than the other.. remember, once you are rooted, it only takes a minute or two to flash a new ROM.. if you dont like the one you choose, try the other.
I find that CM7 actually works. I can't get Oxygen to install at all. The download messes up so the md5 is a mismatch and as such, when installed it doesn't. Just returns a bad request. But as mikeandjaimie said, there are very little differences. To be honest, you can't get someone to tell you what is better or not. It is down to you. Your own preference. Try them both out for a little bit and see which you like.
I've tried both over the last week (tried GingerVillain too) and I prefer Oxygen out of the 2 you mentioned. it's very basic, but I really like it. only had a problem with the Launcher Pro calendar widget, but everything else works fine. On CM I had some bad battery drain, but other people like it.
I actually managed to get Oxygen to work today and I am testing it a bit. Obviously there are still going to be bugs around but it's pretty stable. Oxygen is minimal. It uses the default Android launcher whereas CM7 uses ADWLauncher. I can't really tell the difference between them both really. Like I said above it is down to preference. There are no real differences at all.
mikeandjaimie said:
Both share most of the same basic features and neither really has a downside or drawbacks.. it's all personal preference. I LOVED Oxygen when I was running it, but for me, the new features/tweaks/bugfixes of the CM7 nightlies just drew me in
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What features do you prefer in CM7 as opposed to oxygen?
...just interested
Well I haven't used oxygen in a bit, but they hadn't added any of the CM specific tweaks and features yet.. mostly stuff like gestures, etc.
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CM patches are used for pretty much everything in Oxygen, so most features are alike. I like both, but prefer bleeding edge so CM nightlies FTW
Sent from a piece of ginger bread... Now with a little cyan tint
I have never used oxygen roms but its my first time to cyanogenmod 7 roms ever and I can say I am more then happy, I am have been using the first build nightly for well over a week now and its been absolutely fine, the only thing that does not work is video recording which but everyone is pre-warned about that until the nexus one files get dropped in.
Just flashed to 24th Feb nightly and still no hiccups, not getting the battery drain issues like people are posting, but there is no noticeable decrease or increase for me compared to the previous O2 branded froyo build.
what about ginger villain?
Haven't used CM7, but if you want a fast and lightweight ROM with excellent battery life (see the battery saving mods) then you cannot go wrong with Oxygen
Moreover,tt looks like now that the nexus one OTA has been extracted we will see a stable version of Oxygen very soon, so the problems with the Camcorder on RC7 (the dev didn't want any hacks in the ROM since he wanted it to be as stable as possible) will be ironed out!
Do both these have Bluetooth gamepad support
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would love to see some posts with info about what made someone to move from one mod to another
(just a bump)
I loved Oxygen, loved it. Very fast and minimal allowing me to add to it the way I see fit, the way it should be really. Problem was I was one of the few that experienced bootloops constantly. On average once a day. Sometimes it would go into a boot loop at idle, and I wouldn't notice for over an hour, and by the time I got it back on, the screen being on and displaying the boot animation had drained some serious battery.
So I tried Ginger Villian, I had the same issue with bootloops, so I tried redux. I was quite happy with it, except it didn't work as a phone. It dropped calls every few minutes to multiple numbers, and it refused to send or recieve mms (Yes I checked the APNs). That's when I decided to try CM7, and found that it just works for me where the others didn't. Yes it's a little more heavily featured than I would like, yes it can be a bit laggy and slow every now and then, but it's the stability and reliability that keeps me here for the moment.
I wasn't S-Off when running Oxygen though, so I will delete the ext partition on my SD card and reinstall Oxygen with the oxygen hboot to see if maybe it makes a difference. Something must, there's a lot of people out there claiming to have never had a boot loop, though I would miss the T-Mobile theme enginge that CM7 ships with.
Probably more than you wanted to hear, but that's basically what made me jump from Oxygen to CM.
i really love a stable rom. that's why i prefer cyanogen and used cm6 for a long time. but i also want the latest android version. that's why i use oxygen at the moment until cm7 becomes "FINAL".
the most important thing about cm is that they do not modify the rom all the time. they create a rom, they test it as beta/rc (ONLY for bugfixing - no new (maybe buggy) features all the time) and one day you get a final rom which is no longer changed and STABLE.
I used CM6.1 for quite some time, I love AOSP ROMs, Ultralinx persuaded me to try Oxygen RC2 and I changed HBOOT to go with it. I love the minimalist, hack free aspect of the ROM. And because Oxygen 2.0.1 is so stable and lightweight, and that I can't be bothered to change HBOOT again I think I am going to stick with Oxygen until I am due to upgrade phones.
I used Oxygen since I first rooted, it was a froyo rom, but I used it all the way up to the most recent version. Today I tried cyanogenmod, just to see what differences (if any) there were.
So far, I've noticed the for a2sd+ on cm, you need to flash an additional script. But the main benefit of cm is that I can, for the first time since rooting, send mms again. I could receive them on oxygen no problem, but couldn't for the life send them. Definite benefit for me there.
hidinginthebush said:
I used Oxygen since I first rooted, it was a froyo rom, but I used it all the way up to the most recent version. Today I tried cyanogenmod, just to see what differences (if any) there were.
So far, I've noticed the for a2sd+ on cm, you need to flash an additional script. But the main benefit of cm is that I can, for the first time since rooting, send mms again. I could receive them on oxygen no problem, but couldn't for the life send them. Definite benefit for me there.
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Sorry of topic now but:
What do you mean by flashing a script for the app2sd? I only have a app called S2E, and an ext3 partition. And that app does the job, just by restarting my phone the apps moves to the ext3. But I do realize that my internalmemory goes down when I have a lot of apps. Like now i got 96 mb free. Am I doin it right?
Thanks
xziaz said:
Sorry of topic now but:
What do you mean by flashing a script for the app2sd? I only have a app called S2E, and an ext3 partition. And that app does the job, just by restarting my phone the apps moves to the ext3. But I do realize that my internalmemory goes down when I have a lot of apps. Like now i got 96 mb free. Am I doin it right?
Thanks
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Less than a minute of searching:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10675412&postcount=2
xziaz said:
Sorry of topic now but:
What do you mean by flashing a script for the app2sd? I only have a app called S2E, and an ext3 partition. And that app does the job, just by restarting my phone the apps moves to the ext3. But I do realize that my internalmemory goes down when I have a lot of apps. Like now i got 96 mb free. Am I doin it right?
Thanks
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If you haven't moved your dalvik cache to SD then your internal memory will decrease. Dalvik takes up so much storage space.
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Hello
So recently Ive been wondering if its worth to install the Gingerbread over the 2.2 Defrost mod, I cant say im unhappy with it, cuz its awesome but just bored recently and maybe gingerbread runs even smoother and battery is better and has some more functions?
thinking about oxygen rom or villain rom
what do you guys think? also will all the apps work on the gingerbread? cuz heard something like launcher pro doesnt work on gingerbread?
thanks
I am using LauncherPro to write this, all apps work fine. Nandroid and try it out if you don't like it restore Froyo, not that there is anything to dislike.
Launcher Pro works great on Redux too.
I agree with @Kalavere - many of the Gingerbread ROMs are reliable enough for everyday use - give a couple a run and see whether you like it or not. You probably won't go back.
thanks guys for the info, could you just tell me of some visible advantages over froyo? well apart from the different graphics, like any new features etc etc?
just looked at some reviews and dont really see a point of upgrading to gingerbread unless theres some improvements on smoothness, and battery life?
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thanks guys for the info, could you just tell me of some visible advantages over froyo? well apart from the different graphics, like any new features etc etc?
just looked at some reviews and dont really see a point of upgrading to gingerbread unless theres some improvements on smoothness, and battery life?
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Just flash and see, there are screen on and off visualizations, better battery graph logging, new RAM, internal and external memory graphs. And a few other features and bits and bobs.
Using Oxygen for some time now.... Try Gingerbread.... NEVER GO BACK!
Try it > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829734
On oxygen v2 rc5 battery lasted longer than now on latest miui (froyo). It wasn't pronounced that much on full load, but with screen turned off, i could get to first night with 80%. On miui, at best, 40-50%.
All the options were the same, and same apps were installed.
I went back to miui because on every other Tom i missed something.
On oxygen v2 rc5 3d didn't work, but that wasn't such a deal breaker for me.
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On oxygen v2 rc5 battery lasted longer than now on latest miui (froyo). It wasn't pronounced that much on full load, but with screen turned off, i could get to first night with 80%. On miui, at best, 40-50%.
All the options were the same, and same apps were installed.
I went back to miui because on every other Tom i missed something.
On oxygen v2 rc5 3d didn't work, but that wasn't such a deal breaker for me.
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That's really bad battery life no offence. Try a different kernel and radio. In 6 hours idle I go down to 90-95%
hello everybody
I am totally a noob as you say. i have a defy officialy updated to 2.2.2; since then i have some lag and reboot. in the french forum i have been advised to move to cm7 to avoid such pb. they give me links and tutorials, but it seems very hard to me to go ahead, i roughly succed in recording apk in the sd cards.
they try to help me nicely, but i feel totaly lost moreover with this strange vocabulary you use
this is why i am wondering if it is a good thing for me and the use i have of the defy to try to upgrade it.
basically, i read my emails, skype friends, facebook, read ebooks and take pictures and video of my sons i don't feel any probs with motoblur, don't play game or video or other stuffs like that.
even now, i am writing with my laptop .
i am pissed off when it reboot but it isn't not the end of the world.
what cm7 could bring to sb like me ?
thanks for your help
I do not use the Defy, but it sounds like you are happy with your phone. CM7 streamlines a lot of
unwanted and imo unneeded apps (and lots more really) from your phone. If you are satisfied with your phone's performance I see no need to do anything. I do however use CM7 and love the less is more feel and MUCH better performance.
Read the forums to decide what is best for your own needs.
Cheers
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Hmmm...if y you are new to rooting, flashing and using recovery and is not adventurous, then I suggest to stay with froyo as of now especially if you don't have the time or a spare phone. But if you really want a faster (case to case), good on battery( case to case), beingconstantly updated phone, then change to cm7.
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This is really a nice qn
I have used official eclair froyo miui cm7
cm7 is not so gud in customizations.
They give some hardware acceleration and you will not find much of lags on that gingerbread UI.
For looks, i recommend u to use Launcher pro . I am using it with cm7 and the combination is perfect.
U can definitely move to cm7 latest nightly.If u want good camera then u can move to milestone 2 rom.
On the contrary, CM7 is heavy customizable. Lots of features. I suggest you read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065798 and the CM7 thread for the latest Google Apps and Cm7. It's not that hard to install, actually it's really easy if you follow their steps.
You can use ADW/ Launcher pro or GO launcher. I personally use Go Launcher and i like it, doesn't crash, loads fast.
You can PM me if you want help in upgrading. Why keep your smartphone on 2.2 when you can unleash it's full potential with 2.3.4. Another reason is apps support, everything works on Gingerbread but not everything on Froyo, Hardware is much more faster ( download Quadrant Standard from the market) i get 2200-2400 . Browsing, doc reading/editing is much smoother. Better battery and the list could go on.
Oh, andf Nightlies are for testing... RC0/RC1 are stable versions to use.
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I do not use the Defy, but it sounds like you are happy with your phone. CM7 streamlines a lot of
unwanted and imo unneeded apps (and lots more really) from your phone. If you are satisfied with your phone's performance I see no need to do anything. I do however use CM7 and love the less is more feel and MUCH better performance.
Read the forums to decide what is best for your own needs.
Cheers
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yes, i was happy, except with th lags and reboots i meet since i updated it to froyo, but it isn"t so bad
salingpusa said:
Hmmm...if y you are new to rooting, flashing and using recovery and is not adventurous, then I suggest to stay with froyo as of now especially if you don't have the time or a spare phone. But if you really want a faster (case to case), good on battery( case to case), beingconstantly updated phone, then change to cm7.
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i think your are true, the gain i can havve compares to my use are very low, better stay and crossing my finger for an official upgrading
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On the contrary, CM7 is heavy customizable. Lots of features. I suggest you read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065798 and the CM7 thread for the latest Google Apps and Cm7. It's not that hard to install, actually it's really easy if you follow their steps.
You can use ADW/ Launcher pro or GO launcher. I personally use Go Launcher and i like it, doesn't crash, loads fast.
You can PM me if you want help in upgrading. Why keep your smartphone on 2.2 when you can unleash it's full potential with 2.3.4. Another reason is apps support, everything works on Gingerbread but not everything on Froyo, Hardware is much more faster ( download Quadrant Standard from the market) i get 2200-2400 . Browsing, doc reading/editing is much smoother. Better battery and the list could go on.
Oh, andf Nightlies are for testing... RC0/RC1 are stable versions to use.
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i had a quick look at the tutorial for noob and it is clearly easier than thr one i read before.
finally i will keep this version but i will keep on reding here, as i am very nosey i will certainely jump the gap one day.
thanks for all your replies and explanation
Had cm7 on my SGS got my defy and knew it had 200mhz less processor but otbwas very laggy needed restarting loads lots of force close. Opening Google maps was a joke.
Installed cm7 all better now and it removed the 800mhz underclock so now rocking a 1ghz and it works better then my SGS. Did some quick boot tests, opened a few apps defy was quicker then the SGS and the iPhone 3gs
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I suggest you to read this thread. People around here usually talk about pros of CM7 (and custom ROMs in general), but you have to be aware that there are certain cons also.
Japro said:
I suggest you to read this thread. People around here usually talk about pros of CM7 (and custom ROMs in general), but you have to be aware that there are certain cons also.
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thanks,
after an attentive look at it, it seems that most probs are on camera and as it is a main use of my defy i will stay with official froyo.
thanks guys
I had some reboots and issues too after updating to official froyo. They were all gone after doing a complete wipe.
If you have many apps installed and stuff on your phone, root your phone using SuperOneClick (is really, REALLY easy.. click, click rooted) and install Titanium Backup. Save all your apps and do a complete Wipe.
After that, your phone should be working perfectly. To do this wipe, with the phone turned off, hold Volume Down and turn it on (while still holding V. Down) at the triangle screen press at the same time Vol up and Vol Down. There you will see the options to Clear Cache and Delete User data.
You could also try only wiping cache, it wont delete any information on your phone, but might fix issues (No rooting or anything special needed for this)
Hope it helps~
Zephyrot' s post speaks true. See if you can't fix the issues with a factory reset / cache clear
For the first few months I didn't want to really root my phone or flash it as I was expecting ear piece problem. When I finally took the plunge I wanted a rom that removed motoblur, it's launcher and almost everything else so I could configure it myself from market apps and always have the latest versions.
This lead me not to CM7 - which is also rather bloated and still rather buggy when i last tried the nightlies it 2 weeks ago - but Barebones: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=977989
I installed 1.5.1 after flashing the nordic 2.2.2. I have never been happier.
I have now updated to 1.5.6 + the update.zip for market fixes - used Titanium backup *root* to transfer my apps and settings. I replaced the zoom launcher with launcherPro, milestone overclock to 1100 at 65vsel (after some testing with lower / higher settings).
Finally it was a blurless, bare rom that has the pure minimum as a base and all else can be added via the market afterwards.
Advantages :
its 2.3.4
highly customizable
gr8 performance
lots of options under cyanogenmod settings
mobile will be fully flexible
rest all feature u will come to know only when u try it
all the best
So strangely at 11:45pm last night my phone went absolutely nutty... Can't figure it out but all of my apps keep crashing. Gmail, Maps, etc.
I haven't updated CM7 since it came out months ago so I need a bit of help upgrading all of what needs to be done... I figure this is a good reason to bring things up to speed.
Ideally I'd like to get 7.1 on here. I also can't remember all of what I need to download to do this process. Not as brilliant as the rest of you!
Can anyone give me (or point me in the direction of) some step by step instructions of what I need to do? Real layman's terms...
Currently:
Android 2.3.3
Model number ADR6300
Kernel 2.6.37.6-incredikernel-gb-04192011+
CyanogenMod 7.0.0-Inc
Build Number GRI40
Help me get this puppy up and running!
Thanks all and Happy New Year!!!
Go to cyanogenmod.com and click on devices. Scroll down until you see the HTC Droid Incredible and click on it. Click on the wiki link. Everything you need to know will be there. Use the via clockworkmod recovery method.
Get 7.1 stable, the gapps for it, incredikernel ext4 and the adrenaline shot. That's should be good.
-My life is a shooting range, people never change-
I hate bad mouthing projects that people have worked so hard on. But, CM 7.x stable is NOT stable on the Dinc.
If you want to keep using CM 7.x (stable)...
expect this problem to keep happening. If you are a CM 7.x (stable) user and it hasn't happened to you yet, great. But, don't be surprised when it does. Yeah, check out the CM forum for 7.x stable on the Dinc... you will find many others who have the same problem (works great for some amount of time, and then constant FC's and freezes). I also just ran across another person in the Incredible discussion forum who had the same thing a few days ago. It happened to me after about a week on installing CM 7.1 stable, so I changed to Inc Deck (gingerbread) 1.3 stable. You can reinstall CM and it and it will work for some amount of time (completely unpredictable how long it will work). But someday, sometime...whammo... you will have useless phone, and you will need to reinstall again.
Some folks have said that the problem never goes away after a fresh install... I don't know about that. My phone screwed up, I searched and found many others with the problem, tried a quick fix, then abandoned CM 7.x stable immediately.
iowabeakster said:
I hate bad mouthing projects that people have worked so hard on. But, CM 7.x stable is NOT stable on the Dinc.
If you want to keep using CM 7.x (stable)...
expect this problem to keep happening. If you are a CM 7.x (stable) user and it hasn't happened to you yet, great. But, don't be surprised when it does. Yeah, check out the CM forum for 7.x stable on the Dinc... you will find many others who have the same problem (works great for some amount of time, and then is completely fubar'd). I also just ran across another person in the Incredible discussion forum who had the same thing a few days ago. It happened to me after about a week on installing CM 7.1 stable, so I changed to Inc Deck (gingerbread) 1.3 stable. You can reinstall CM and it and it will work for some amount of time (completely unpredictable how long it will work). But someday, sometime...whammo... you will have useless phone, and you will need to start over again.
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Hmmm interesting. Out of all the roms I have tried for the droid Incredible, CM7 has by far been the most stable. Never had any trouble with it and I have, at times, used it for months before trying a different rom.
Oh I know! It seems to catch everyone off guard because it works fine for X number of weeks or months and then... FC and freeze hell!
A lot of the folks found it happened shortly after upgrading from 7.0 to 7.1. But just in the last couple of days I have run across a couple of people that were still using 7.0 and now seem to have the issue.
The guy at CM who does most everything for the Dinc seems to think it was related to a full /data/data partition. I reinstalled fresh and did the ext4 "no data limit" mod, after first having the issue, and it made no difference at all. So, I gave up on CM the same day.
CM7 nightlies have actually been my daily driver for most of my time having service on the Incredible.
I've heard the force close issues have been due to /data/data filling up. If you keep 20MB free or more you should be fine. Root explorer is one app that will list how much free is on /data/data and a recommended app for any rooted phone. the CM7 nigthly thread has a few suggestions on how to free space. Search not enough space on the nightlies thread.
Edit: I see you posted about the /data/data partition already.
Thanks for this tidbit... I haven't had the issue, nor do i plan on getting it.. I'm pretty adamant about keeping a certain percentage of free space on all partitions, so hopefully everything runs smooth.
Thanks again for the heads up.
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CM7 nightlies have actually been my daily driver for most of my time having service on the Incredible.
I've heard the force close issues have been due to /data/data filling up. If you keep 20MB free or more you should be fine. Root explorer is one app that will list how much free is on /data/data and a recommended app for any rooted phone. the CM7 nigthly thread has a few suggestions on how to free space. Search not enough space on the nightlies thread.
Edit: I see you posted about the /data/data partition already.
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Oh I know! It seems to catch everyone off guard because it works fine for X number of weeks or months and then... FC and freeze hell!
A lot of the folks found it happened shortly after upgrading from 7.0 to 7.1. But just in the last couple of days I have run across a couple of people that were still using 7.0 and now seem to have the issue.
The guy at CM who does most everything for the Dinc seems to think it was related to a full /data/data partition. I reinstalled fresh and did the ext4 "no data limit" mod, after first having the issue, and it made no difference at all. So, I gave up on CM the same day.
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Don't let this Guy talk you out of cm7. I've been running the same kang for almost a month. And I ran the stable from October 9th til December 19th. It was always my fallback. I've never had issues, and as big as the nightlies/stable threads are. Why would you let one sway you?
-My life is a shooting range, people never change-
Correct, don't let one guy do that.
Certainly don't allow your own haywire experience affect your judgment.
And certainly don't allow these dozens of folks who posted on the CM incredible forum to have any influence on your decision.
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/32784-consistent-freezingfc-after-update-to-71/
Only listen to one guy who is running some OTHER build, that everything is perfect.
Your sarcasm is too advanced, my friend... ;] lol
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Correct, don't let one guy do that.
Certainly don't allow your own haywire experience affect your judgment.
And certainly don't allow these dozens of folks who posted on the CM incredible forum to have any influence on your decision.
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/32784-consistent-freezingfc-after-update-to-71/
Only listen to one guy who is running some OTHER build, that everything is perfect.
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Use Pons 7.2 kang. I've been since he started and all is well. I was running the nightlies before that and have never had any issues.
Ahhhhhhh
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Hello All,
I been a rooted HTC Desire user for quite sometime and my missus dislikes this very much because every month I will be stuck at my computer searching the XDA forum for my ideal ROM.
I know it is all down to personal preference and I have done a fair bit of searching before starting my own thread. (Also I have less than 10 posts so its a good start)
What I want in a ROM is fast and smooth as a prio.
Good battery usage and Stable.
Possibility to use a ext3/4 partition.
Not so import:
I love the ICS look and launcher but having used ADW Launcher and GoLauncher I prefer to just have a launcher built into a ROM. This made me find MildWild 4.3 and 5.0
I been using Oxygen 2.3.2 for quite sometime at the moment and never really had any problem apart from the very occasional soft reboot (Where the home screen reloads and welcome message appears)
So I tried MildWild 4.3 based on Oxy which so many people praised where the first thing I did was go into Spare Parts viewed battery history and BAM, Force Closes. So tried a full wipe but this still kept happening.
So I tried 5.0 but for some other reason that I cannot recall I was not getting a long with this (I think the lack of T9)
So yeah, what do people think would be ideal for me? I been watching Sandvolds work for sometime and even used the ICS rom but I would prefer a fully stable ROM that I can use day to day and take pictures of my family.
Sorry for the wall of text but hopefully people can give me their opinions. :highfive:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1899654
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1904496
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=628
Thank you for taking your time getting those links abaaaabbbb63
Just flashed MW 5.0, nice performance so far. Only thing that crashed was the Cynogen mod settings but I presume that is because it was modified by MildWild.
I'm starting to regret the day I made my username.. people calling me Abaaaabbbb...
Anyways, your welcome.
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Thank you for taking your time getting those links abaaaabbbb63
Just flashed MW 5.0, nice performance so far. Only thing that crashed was the Cynogen mod settings but I presume that is because it was modified by MildWild.
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The cyanogenmod settings under settings? It shouldn't crash
The battery tap under spare parts, yes, it crashed on mine also and crashes on some roms. So not to worry there
Sorry about replying, I know it's been answered but just clearing that up
No, the Cyanogenmod settings are great, always have been when I using CM7.1
But when you dive right in under the System and Update Notifications, but when I looked in the development thread it seems MW stripped out that feature
Didn't need it anyway.
Thanks for posting!
Yea..happens to everyone.
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Hi guys,
I have question regarding my HTC Desire Z .. Ever since I rooted the phone about 1.5 years ago, and have been trying out the newer ROMs, I've slowly realized that my phone is getting slower, slower, and slower .. I'm currently using a Jellybean ROM, and its *extremely* slow ! I mean, at times I receive a call, and the ringer rings about 5-6 times, and during all this time, the phone doesn't have the juice to switch to the phone app, so that I can 'accept' the call ! Ultimately the call disconnects itself!
A friend recently suggested to me that maybe the newer ROMs are two powerful for my phone, and that I need to move to an older Android version ROM, which my Desire Z CAN handle, without this much lag !
Also, I hardly have any apps installed on my phone at all, in an attempt to keep the load low .. I also use 'Advance Task Killer' regularly to kill background apps, but it doesn't really improve anything ..
What can I do to improve the speed of my phone !? I really pisses me off to see a 10-15 second lag when I call someone !
Get rid of the task killer first of all...
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i own desire z. installed flinnys 128 (jb) and everything works EXTREMELY smooth! no lag!!!!
just try it!
demkantor said:
Get rid of the task killer first of all...
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Task Killer is not the issue, as I only installed it the other day .. The condition was same before as well ..
d_gkal said:
i own desire z. installed flinnys 128 (jb) and everything works EXTREMELY smooth! no lag!!!!
just try it!
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I dont think it will make any difference .. I've tried many different ROMs, and its always the same condition with all ... Sometimes my phone become *so* unresponsive that I just feel like smashing it on the ground ! (When I really get upset!)
Also, on another note, when I open Advanced Task Killer, it shows me the amount of free RAM on the top .. Most of the times this value is between 60 MB ~ 100 MB, and sometimes between 100 MB ~ 140 MB .. If never seen this value go above 135 MB or so ... And Desire Z is supposed to have 512 MB of RAM
just full wipe and reflash the rom
d_gkal said:
just full wipe and reflash the rom
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If I do that, it will initially be fast .. Even if I install all my apps on the first day, it will still be okay in terms of speed ... But give it a week, it eventually becomes slow .. very slow! .. And the odd thing is, during this week, I don't necessary install/uninstall anything .. the phone just ****s itself in somehow ... And then from then on, it remains slow, no matter what ...
I open Google Maps, takes like 15 seconds to open .. takes another 60 seconds to go to Google Navigation, and then further lags after that ..
Basically there's a lag in *everything* !
Is there a way I can see what is slowing down the phone ?!
Also, is it true or not whether an older phone, such as Desire Z, can or cannot handle a relatively newer Android version ROM ? Maybe this is why the latest Android versions are NOT officially available for phones many times, because the manufacturer knows the device cannot handle that newer Android version ?
If your rom supports ext partitions, make sure all of yours are formatted that way. Chances are you have sopme bad apps, a logcat may hedlp determin abused wake locks or memory leaks. Also you can try downloading battery batt stats or watchdog for more infor
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ahmadka said:
Hi guys,
I have question regarding my HTC Desire Z .. Ever since I rooted the phone about 1.5 years ago, and have been trying out the newer ROMs, I've slowly realized that my phone is getting slower, slower, and slower .. I'm currently using a Jellybean ROM, and its *extremely* slow ! I mean, at times I receive a call, and the ringer rings about 5-6 times, and during all this time, the phone doesn't have the juice to switch to the phone app, so that I can 'accept' the call ! Ultimately the call disconnects itself!
A friend recently suggested to me that maybe the newer ROMs are two powerful for my phone, and that I need to move to an older Android version ROM, which my Desire Z CAN handle, without this much lag !
Also, I hardly have any apps installed on my phone at all, in an attempt to keep the load low .. I also use 'Advance Task Killer' regularly to kill background apps, but it doesn't really improve anything ..
What can I do to improve the speed of my phone !? I really pisses me off to see a 10-15 second lag when I call someone !
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i had a play with elitemod ics the other day & it was defiantly slower than the GB version... it was using more or less double the ram which i suspect is the real problem.....
Yes its true the newer versions are more hungry. We touched on it in one of the andromadus threads recently. I believe the issue to be the cpu. The nexus s has the same amount of ram as us and although its not as good on there as the gnex, its still good. Having bumped my lower cpu limit a notch, its much better. I also tried a few upper limits and found that 1200 to be best as it suffers with animation under that.
But then all dz's are different. Stay on your rom and bump up the lower limits a few clicks and let us know what you think.
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I've noticed the slowdowns happening with negligible CPU load and no memory constraints. I suspect a problem with the kernel. At the times it happens, the phone seems to be just doing *nothing*.
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If your rom supports ext partitions, make sure all of yours are formatted that way. Chances are you have sopme bad apps, a logcat may hedlp determin abused wake locks or memory leaks. Also you can try downloading battery batt stats or watchdog for more infor
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Is there any other thing I can try apart from logcat ? I installed Watchdog a few hours ago, but so far it hasn't reported anything out of the way ..
What does have ext partitions do ? How does that speed up the OS ?
Also, I'm probably going to be re-flashing another ROM soon, so please suggest me a ROM ... I'm looking for maximum longterm stability and responsiveness here, so even if a ROM isn't the newest or the most feature-filled, I can still try it out ..
And what is Superwipe (read it in another thread) ?
Normally, when I restore stuff after installing a ROM, I download a fresh copy of the app from the Store, and only restore the app's data using titanium .. is this okay ?
For the sake of starting fresh, flash the ext 4 recovery and flash mimicry as your rom. Read all suggestions in the first few post on mimicry, to flash 4ext I made a thread, you'll find it the first page or so in the general section (dzhboot or something)
Mimicry is one of the best made best performing full featured ics roms for our phones, partitioning everything to 4ext (easily done through recovery) will make it far better. Other bonus tweaks will be added in.
There (in my opinion) are beter performing gingerbread roms, but I do sugest mimicry as it is amazing and the dev has laid out a wealth of knowledge in the first few posts
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demkantor said:
For the sake of starting fresh, flash the ext 4 recovery and flash mimicry as your rom. Read all suggestions in the first few post on mimicry, to flash 4ext I made a thread, you'll find it the first page or so in the general section (dzhboot or something)
Mimicry is one of the best made best performing full featured ics roms for our phones, partitioning everything to 4ext (easily done through recovery) will make it far better. Other bonus tweaks will be added in.
There (in my opinion) are beter performing gingerbread roms, but I do sugest mimicry as it is amazing and the dev has laid out a wealth of knowledge in the first few posts
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I'm assuming you're referring to this thread: http://www.forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1714187
Well this is the ROM I'm currently using, which I flashed about 2 months ago, which is giving me all these performance issues ..
I went through the first few pages, but I didn't find any instructions on 4EXT ... The only thing I found was in the OP's FAQ in the start, which said that you should apply ext by downloading 4ext from Play Store, if you get lags ..
Anywhere else I can look ?
Look in general section, somewhere in the first page I posted a thread called dzhboot on g2 or something to that extent, one of the first few posts I eplain how to flash 4ext recovery.
One of the fastest roms I have used is elitemod cm7, maybe try that
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I have been wondering the same as the OP. I have been using andromadus and andromadus mimicry roms for the past few month. I tired cm9 unofficial but it was no different to mimicry in terms of lag. Currently on flinny's jb beta http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005136. Lag is not terrible but too often I am looking at a white screen waiting for something to happen.
I often experience lags opening apps like phone and browser (any browser). Phone hanging when trying to make a call is particularly annoying because my wife asks "why is your phone so ****?"
I would love to have a really smooth experience like others report but even with a fresh wipe I seem to have trouble. When I try to reduce the process limit i still seem to have too many processes running. What should i look for in logcat in terms of tracking down the problem?
Maybe 4ext will sort it out? I am very loathe to go back to a cm7 rom.
Ext4 worked really well for me to speed up my phone.. I highly recommend it.
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alexnh said:
I have been wondering the same as the OP. I have been using andromadus and andromadus mimicry roms for the past few month. I tired cm9 unofficial but it was no different to mimicry in terms of lag. Currently on flinny's jb beta http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005136. Lag is not terrible but too often I am looking at a white screen waiting for something to happen.
I often experience lags opening apps like phone and browser (any browser). Phone hanging when trying to make a call is particularly annoying because my wife asks "why is your phone so ****?"
I would love to have a really smooth experience like others report but even with a fresh wipe I seem to have trouble. When I try to reduce the process limit i still seem to have too many processes running. What should i look for in logcat in terms of tracking down the problem?
Maybe 4ext will sort it out? I am very loathe to go back to a cm7 rom.
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It's gotta be a certain app your installing thats hogging all your memory, I been running mimicry ever since blk released it n have had very few slowdowns.
Never had a problem receiving/making calls 'wiping' is not the same as 'superwiping' its different then just the name, I suggest you do some reading up before flashing any more roms.
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It's gotta be a certain app your installing thats hogging all your memory, I been running mimicry ever since blk released it n have had very few slowdowns.
Never had a problem receiving/making calls 'wiping' is not the same as 'superwiping' its different then just the name, I suggest you do some reading up before flashing any more roms.
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i superwipe, and i've been flashing roms since the g1. I am not seeing any particular process hogging resources. this current jb beta is pretty good but still get some lagging at random.
if that were the case I would love to try and find out what it is.
it seems to me that a minority of users report lags in rom threads and are dismissed without ever really getting to the root of the problem.
I would really like to try and get to the bottom of it. I am going to move to ext4 but if there are other troubleshooting steps to take I am all ears.
Ext4 alone will make a huge difference, and most of the rest of the slow downs will be do to apps/running services which can be seen with a logcat what is continually trying to use cpu resources
If only a minority report slowdowns then either that minority has a different idea of how the phone should run/ they use the phone in a completley different way/ or have different settings and apps then most have.
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