Hey everyone, I just had a question, with most Jellybean 4.2 roms I've tried multi-touch has been kind of non-responsive with gaming. I've tried multiple games (Dead Space, Sandbox, Pinball, various SNES Emulators) where whenever I would put more than on finger on it and remove it, both touch points would still act as if I had my fingers on it. It seems as if it doesn't register the two touches as seperate. For example, I was playing Chrono Trigger using an emulator (Snes9ex+ and Snesoid) and in order to run you have to hold down a button and navigate with the directional pad. Whenever I would do this and remove my fingers the chracter would keep moving.
This only seems to happen on 4.2 roms (Evervolv, Mazwoz, Xenon) with any kernel (I used stock, mazwoz, and blackdome). However, Jellybean 4.1 roms seem to work just fine for the most part (Solar Flare, Dirty Unicorn/Diablo) where multi-touch was just fine no issues. There is an app to check multi-touch on the market and when I used that it registered up to 5 points for 4.2 roms and anything else such as pinch-to-zoom in the browser was alright, just seemed to be gaming.
So I was wondering, is this due to the roms or the kernels? Also, is this merely just a downside with porting 4.2 roms to the EVO or just something that hasn't been reported yet?
Thanks everyone, I really appreciate all the work you developers have done.
ohen2494 said:
Hey everyone, I just had a question, with most Jellybean 4.2 roms I've tried multi-touch has been kind of non-responsive with gaming. I've tried multiple games (Dead Space, Sandbox, Pinball, various SNES Emulators) where whenever I would put more than on finger on it and remove it, both touch points would still act as if I had my fingers on it. It seems as if it doesn't register the two touches as seperate. For example, I was playing Chrono Trigger using an emulator (Snes9ex+ and Snesoid) and in order to run you have to hold down a button and navigate with the directional pad. Whenever I would do this and remove my fingers the chracter would keep moving.
This only seems to happen on 4.2 roms (Evervolv, Mazwoz, Xenon) with any kernel (I used stock, mazwoz, and blackdome). However, Jellybean 4.1 roms seem to work just fine for the most part (Solar Flare, Dirty Unicorn/Diablo) where multi-touch was just fine no issues. There is an app to check multi-touch on the market and when I used that it registered up to 5 points for 4.2 roms and anything else such as pinch-to-zoom in the browser was alright, just seemed to be gaming.
So I was wondering, is this due to the roms or the kernels? Also, is this merely just a downside with porting 4.2 roms to the EVO or just something that hasn't been reported yet?
Thanks everyone, I really appreciate all the work you developers have done.
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Well this is a question that is probably asked about twice a week,but the reason for the lag is JB is not and i stress,is not made for the EVO,just not enough memory,also ICS,so you are lucky enough to get good devs that know what their doing with touch response tweaks and such,with ICS,unfortuneately we havent had such luck with JB yet,there are a few tweaks that might help with your lag since you are a gammer.... 4cyl Turbo engine v0.2.2 w/ 150 shot NOS / RTMixManager™2
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Well this is a question that is probably asked about twice a week,but the reason for the lag is JB is not and i stress,is not made for the EVO,just not enough memory,also ICS,so you are lucky enough to get good devs that know what their doing with touch response tweaks and such,with ICS,unfortuneately we havent had such luck with JB yet,there are a few tweaks that might help with your lag since you are a gammer.... 4cyl Turbo engine v0.2.2 w/ 150 shot NOS / RTMixManager™2
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Thanks a lot for this, honestly I didn't account it to lag, I just thought it was a bug since everything else was so smooth. Also sorry if this is a common question, I searched around but didn't find anything, thanks a lot for answering though!
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Hello there!
I've been using my Desire Z for a long time but found the trackpad pretty useless. This is because i found the sensitivity for it pretty low so if i want to scroll down on a page it's taking forever. I also noticed if i scroll using a piece of cloth (like my shirt) the scrolling is alot faster and usable. But it's not that nice using cloth all the time.
My girlfriend has just got an new phone the Samsung Galaxy Y Pro. It also has an optical trackpad which is alot faster and usable. Also in the settings there is an option to make the trackpad faster more sensitive.
Is there any kind of application or modification to make the trackpad faster sensitiver or so?
Please let me now .
Regards
Edit: whoops i forgot to add [Q] in the topics name and i have no idea how to edit this.
Finally a topic regarding this issue!
I noticed that using certain (mostly newer, modded - CM7 for example) ROMs, the trackpad responsivess is great.
However, recently I flashed to modded stock ROM (Virtuous G-Lite) and I also find the trackpad quite useless :/
Been searching the internet for reason or solution, but found nothing
Hope to find the answer!
So if the sensitivity differs in different ROMS it's editable in a file or so. So i think it would be possible for an smart developer to create an app that edit's the values in the file to change the sensitivity with a nice slider as GUI.
Hopes it will be there someday .
I could not agree more about the trackpad, it makes me want the responsiveness of my old G1 with the trackball (but that design is prone to fail because moisture/foreign objects can easily get underneath the ball).
Would love to see some sort of customization for trackpad sensitivity become mainstream for custom roms.
I've experienced the same problem with the following ROMs:
CM 7.1.0 Stable
Virtuous v2.0.0
Virtuous G-Lite 1.6
So it's happening on AOSP and Sense based ROMs.
Just flashed G2-Slim 1.2 (see my sig for link), which seems to be the same AOSP ROM as Virtuous G-lite, but the sensitivity responsiviness seems much better.
I have no idea how the hell can it be different..
Maybe different kernels affect this?
I'm also using the G-slim ROM for a couple of days now and besides I really like the ROM the trackpad is indeed faster. But still not as fast as I would like. Let's hope some dev. Check this thread out an can help us what makes the difference in sensitivity for the trackpad!
I remember before back on android 2.2 when using the trackpad through texts depending on how fast I swiped would determine how many letters or words it would move. But now especially with roms like cm7 no matter what it'll only move over 1 letter =/ a setting to adjust sensitivity in future roms would be amazing
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I remember before back on android 2.2 when using the trackpad through texts depending on how fast I swiped would determine how many letters or words it would move. But now especially with roms like cm7 no matter what it'll only move over 1 letter =/ a setting to adjust sensitivity in future roms would be amazing
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That's exactly my problem! I don't want to move one letter if i like to i want to move 5 letters or scroll (fast) to the beginning with the trackpad. Just like it is on blackberry's or on the Samsung Galaxy Y PRO. My girlfriend get's the galaxy y pro on her birthday (27th of December) it runs gingerbread stock and has got an sensitivity option in the settings. Maybe i can break that functionality and put it in our phones. I don't know if it will work tho because the trackpad maybe differs. Still hoping a developer will look at this thread and help us out!
Hello. Is anyone else having issues with Yongzh's emulators (snesoid, gameboid...) when running them in ICS?
I get slightly poor performance and sound issues that don't manifest themselves when using Gingerbread. The same happens in Android 4.0 and 4.0.4. I've tried different ROMs too and I even tried overclocking the CPU to 1.5 GHz. Nothing helps.
I'm looking either for a fix or for some nice alternatives (some other emulators work nicely, but they're not as good).
What are you using since switching to ICS?
No kidding. That's one of the reasons the ICS update was dropped, it killed performance.
So if I read this post correctly, I guess its answering my other thread.. that I guess Yongzh's emulators are no good anymore and we should buy a new emulator off the market?
Mysticales said:
So if I read this post correctly, I guess its answering my other thread.. that I guess Yongzh's emulators are no good anymore and we should buy a new emulator off the market?
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I don't know about not being good, they're still my favorite, but they perform badly in ICS for some reason and they're actually one of the main reasons I can't decide whether I want ICS or GB.
Glad I came across this thread tho.. didnt even know they had issues in ICS.. Maybe I will have to buy a newer version emulator, unless anyone knows if he is still updating for ics on slideme wasnt it?
Hey, I'd like to know if this is ROM specific. Perhaps the emulators might work smoothly in some ROMs that I haven't tried. Please post your experiences. I'd mostly like to hear about CM9 (I haven't tried it yet).
I tried Tiger Arcade and Tiger Genesis and they both work like a charm in ICS. Consider this emulators as an option.
http://www.apps.tigerplay.info
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Hello. Is anyone else having issues with Yongzh's emulators (snesoid, gameboid...) when running them in ICS?
I get slightly poor performance and sound issues that don't manifest themselves when using Gingerbread. The same happens in Android 4.0 and 4.0.4. I've tried different ROMs too and I even tried overclocking the CPU to 1.5 GHz. Nothing helps.
I'm looking either for a fix or for some nice alternatives (some other emulators work nicely, but they're not as good).
What are you using since switching to ICS?
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Hey mate
that's easy , just use MD.emu , BGA.emu ... all of them are running smoothly on ICS .
What rom do you have on your phone?
Why do you like it?
What dont you like about it?
Im curious to see what everyone is running
So far ive ran aokp, paranoid android, and cm10.
Im currently on cm10 and enjoy how professional it is. (explaining the swag button to potent galaxy buyers was kind of tough)
I would have kept paranoid android but the profiles didnt work and i didnt know how to use the dpi changer.
I also started this thread to see who uses android development ROMS instead of the original development ones
Im mainly interested in the non original android development roms users and their oppinions but everyone's answer is appreciated
My favorite was Codename Android, besides one major flaw that myself and very few others experienced: Impossible to send SMS longer than 160 characters, regardless of settings/reflashes/apn/etc. Just because it was the smoothest ROM for me.
I value UI smoothness above all else and have yet to find a ROM that is truly stutter free.
CM10 is ok, but if you go to clock and swipe to the side to go to timer it stutters like a pentium 2 running Crysis: Warhead.
Stock ICS ROM's lag, as well Facebook/third party app scrolling has constant stutter reminiscing of SGS1
JB Leaks (LIF, LIG, LIH) give me blackscreen reboots once in a while, although noticeably smoother than ICS.
I didn't mention battery life as quite frankly I can get a day of usage with every ROM I have tried so far which is nearly all of them.
I think I'm using stock ROM right now as I was fed up and just restored an old nandroid... I guess its ok, everything just works, lots of stutter's though. Doesn't have that premium feel you expect of a device at this price point.
inB4 go buy iphone5
scorpion667 said:
My favorite was Codename Android, besides one major flaw that myself and very few others experienced: Impossible to send SMS longer than 160 characters, regardless of settings/reflashes/apn/etc. Just because it was the smoothest ROM for me.
I value UI smoothness above all else and have yet to find a ROM that is truly stutter free.
CM10 is ok, but if you go to clock and swipe to the side to go to timer it stutters like a pentium 2 running Crysis: Warhead.
Stock ICS ROM's lag, as well Facebook/third party app scrolling has constant stutter reminiscing of SGS1
JB Leaks (LIF, LIG, LIH) give me blackscreen reboots once in a while, although noticeably smoother than ICS.
I didn't mention battery life as quite frankly I can get a day of usage with every ROM I have tried so far which is nearly all of them.
I think I'm using stock ROM right now as I was fed up and just restored an old nandroid... I guess its ok, everything just works, lots of stutter's though. Doesn't have that premium feel you expect of a device at this price point.
inB4 go buy iphone5
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Run AOKP then, it's extremely fast and smooth.
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Run AOKP then, it's extremely fast and smooth.
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I have tried multiple versions of it, still stutters on homescreen sometimes. Same Timer stutter as CM10 and annoying alarm bug (although there is a fix, it's inconvenient). As well the Nova launcher that AOKP uses, and pretty much all third party launchers have a little input lag due to non native integration or no hardware acceleration (not sure which, but the input lag is there).
Anyway I'll take my fluidity rant somewhere else, people seem happy with the current state of the phone.
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I have tried multiple versions of it, still stutters on homescreen sometimes. Same Timer stutter as CM10 and annoying alarm bug (although there is a fix, it's inconvenient). As well the Nova launcher that AOKP uses, and pretty much all third party launchers have a little input lag due to non native integration or no hardware acceleration (not sure which, but the input lag is there).
Anyway I'll take my fluidity rant somewhere else, people seem happy with the current state of the phone.
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The childishness of aokp turned me off since i looked at the boot logo but my gripes can all be easily fixed /hidden.
I havent noticed the speed difference but i do see tge lag you speak about but ive dismissed it as a hardware being underpowered to the rom issue and dont notice it as much anymore
So im still looking for answers from non original development users but to everyone else
>> What are the Cm10 vs aokp major Differences?
Here is a quick look at some of the differences
http://techie-buzz.com/android/aokp-vs-cm10.html
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Blazer Rom.
It's minimalistic, faster than stock without overclocking, great battery right out of the box, and EVERYTHING WORKS. take that jelly bean.
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Because its my ROM. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
I'm currently using cm10 and I find very awesome. It's fast and has a lot of great features. I tried AOKP and decided that IMO cm10 was closer to actual 4.1, but AOKP had many more features.
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I had been running AOKP for a week or so, I like its customization better than that of other ROMs.
I just yesterday found a new ROM called Paranoid KANGdroid. It pulls from CM10, AOKP, and Paranoid Android. Has pretty much all the features of all three. So much customization, I love it. Not fully stable, though, its only a few days old.
Hello everyone!
I've been busy lately flashing different roms to my t989, trying to solve the problem described in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1161262.
I've tried some of the newest roms and kernels (All-star 4.2, CM10, 10.1, AOKP) but the issue is still there. The attached APK on that thread does not work And I have no idea how to do the kernel modification ;(
Anything that can be done to solve it? The touchscreen sensitivy option is grayed out on the roms I've tried so far. It's annoying on games like Modern Combat, or TeamViewer (mouse is jumpy). Or do I have to modify an existing kernel? :crying:
Thanks!
I have just noticed this problem.. no wonder the touchscreen sometimes jumps in Dead Trigger
Thank you for bringing this up, hopefully the kernel devs will take a look at this and probably fix this
It could be a slider or something like that :laugh:
I just noticed that, I was noticing lag, mainly in the youtube application when i'm scrolling, thought it was my rom or phone. I notice it as well with the ripple lock option in embryo 6.
Greetings.
In hopes of finding someone who's facing a similar problem, I'd like to ask you about a certain issue.
I've installed the Xperia Play Z Ultimate Edition rom on my Xplay r800i. It's running all cool and great, but there's one problem. The apps are closing for no reason. It's like, one moment you're playing a game, and all of a sudden the main screen appears, as if you pressed the home button, but the app is gone. It looks like they're crashing when the phone is under heavy load. It happens to literally everything. Even Messenger bubbles often disappear when there's a new heavy app starting.
I've searched the rom's thread, but didn't find any information about such problem.
If this matters, I've flashed the kernel that was supplied by rom creator - 480p DoomKernel.
This is the first rom I've seen which has an issue like that, and I don't think there's any alternative, as this is the only ICS rom I know that keeps all of Xplay's core features while significantly improving speed and functionality.
Please help. Does anyone know why this happens?
Update: out of frustration, I've changed to another ICS rom, Honami 2.1.3, together with switching to a Lupus V7 kernel (ram version)... and the same thing happens. Although with the new rom my phone's performance seems to have DRASTICALLY improved, apps are still closing for no reason. There's not even a popup or error, or anything like that - it just pulls the plug and suddenly kicks me to the main screen.
This problem renders heavy games literally UNPLAYABLE. It runs perfect for like 5 or 10 minutes, with high framerate even, then out of a sudden BAM - back to the main screen. No error, no nothing.
Browsing around Lupus settings I've found something called Low Memory Killer. From what I understand, this thing kills the apps when the device is on critically low memory. Maybe this is the cause? And if it is, why the heck is it "going rogue" and killing apps that I'm ACTIVELY USING? How do I configure this? I assume you can't just disable it...
Please help.
Seriously? No one has ANY IDEA what's happening? Please help! I literally have no clue what may be causing this.
Switched to YET ANOTHER rom and kernel - Nexplay, with bundled Lupus kernel, this time also changing the firmware to R800i_4.0.2.A.0.58_Enhanced. With this one, the phone runs definitely the fastest, but guess what... same thing happens as before. Games commit suicide when played for too long. Out of all I've tested, the only ones that don't shut down are OpenTyrian and Nes emulator. Gun Bros worked fine for like 5 minutes, and suddenly closed, working very slow for like 2 seconds before it happened. Same thing with Vendetta Online but this one outright REBOOTED THE PHONE! And these games supposedly are optimized for xplay, so it doesn't make any sense why there's such a problem going on...
I'm starting to wonder if maybe it's because I'm using ICS roms? But then, I've never seen anybody reporting such problems with ANY rom. This definitely isn't a common issue. I'm also using Link2SD, but again, I've never seen anyone mentioning it causing anything like that.
I can relate to your problem. I've experienced the same (apps randomly closing while in use) issues 1 or 2 years ago and to me the development on these roms are dead since the developers have moved onto newer devices. Currently my xperia play is dead (bricked) however with experience of using many of the roms i can safely say that ICS is not meant for the xperia play. Sony themselves didn't officially release ICS for this device due to the number of bugs and problems associated with it. I'd recommend you to use GB roms to bring out the best potential of your device. ICS lags some way or another whereas GB doesn't. All games run smooth on Gingerbread and they certainly do not have issues like ICS does. The best rom for this device is Gin2kitkat ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631144 ) and my personal favourite Xperia NXT 2 r1 (i've used this rom the longest). Here's the link for that: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1649368
From experience, as long as you use a Gingerbread rom you should be good to go as they are the most stable for our device. Good luck
Aaw, that's a real bummer. The problem with GB roms is that there's a lot of ICS apps and games that I really need. One of the main reasons I've decided to unlock bootloader on this device is because I wanted to get an upgrade to ICS. It's really strange. I've seen people play advanced games on this phone (example) and there are no signs of problems such as the one I'm experiencing.
Thanks a lot for your reply. I guess I'll use one more ICS rom, and if that fails, I'll give GB roms a try.
Btw, what do you think about NXT Gaming rom? I don't care much about flashy UI and widgets, and as long as everything in the phone works (camera, xLoud etc.) priority for me is gaming performance, and from description, this rom seems to be the most aggresive I've seen when it comes for optimizing performance for games.
I agree, from the vid the user is seen to be running the ROM "ICS Ultimate". Also i haven't tried the NXT gaming rom only the NXT 2r1 but regardless, with that rom i've been able to play emulator games and heavy intensive games such as Fifa 2012. I'd only imagine the 'NXT Gaming rom' is faster and better but since i haven't tried it, i'm unable to give you a direct response, sorry. Anyways Gingerbread will always be the best in terms of gaming performance and functionality, but if you're able to find a good ICS rom that is smooth when playing games such as GTA then it's entirely up to you whether you want to stay on ICS or not. Also correct me if i'm wrong but i remember GTA3 (not san andreas) being playable on gingerbread.
Correct, GTA3 DOES work on Gingerbread, but unfortunately only this one and Vice City do so. GTA San Andreas and Chinatown Wars will not work on anything lower than ICS. This is an example anyway, cuz there are few more things that I need and will work only on ICS.
Anyways, guess what. I've tried YET another Rom from a portuguese site (rom is Fusion ICS 2.4), and the problem stopped - apps no longer spontaneously shut down. There's another problem though... as this system is ridiculously unstable. Sometimes it's fast as lightning, then sometimes it slows down to a crawl for no reason - it has nothing to do with active apps; it often happens with no active apps running and with tons of free ram available. It's completely random. Even the interface sometimes crashes for no reason. Curiously though, all games run extremely fast and they never shut down on their own. Unfortunately, it's not worth using such a train wreck. Games running well while the rest of the system goes haywire defeats the purpose for me.
I'd give "ICS Ultimate" rom a try, but for some reason, I get virus alerts when trying to download or open the file. I guess I'll either wait until it's confirmed false alert, or go for GB roms finally.