[Q] Is the Epic what I really want? - Epic 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Looking for a capable Android phone for my mom. She has no experience with any kind of smartphone. But she knows for sure that she wants a slide-out keyboard. Our other requirement is that the phone work on Page Plus (Verizon network). I'm well capable of getting the Epic 4G working with Page Plus. Since we're using Page Plus, there's no contract, hence no carrier subsidy... which is what brings me to the Epic 4G.
The price is nice-- obviously much nicer than any newer phone. My only concern is that the phone may be antiquated, and might not be up to the task of modern apps. I don't expect much, though it's gotta be able to at least run Angry Birds without stuttering (I feel this is a reasonable place to set the bar).
Would anyone care to speak to the phone's performance, and whether this phone will suffice for another year under today's newer apps?
Thanks!
FYI, I plan to root and install CM7, based on what I've read here regarding performance and battery life.

I still think of the Epic as one of the greatest phones to date. With the requirements you specified it should suit your Mom's needs. You can even drop a little overclocking on that CM7 to give her that extra burst of speed to handle those nasty birds..lol.

kennyglass123 said:
I still think of the Epic as one of the greatest phones to date. With the requirements you specified it should suit your Mom's needs. You can even drop a little overclocking on that CM7 to give her that extra burst of speed to handle those nasty birds..lol.
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Thanks Kenny. BTW, I've noticed that CM9 has been pretty stable for a while, and that CM9.1 has even been released. I wouldn't be ready to dive into CM10 just yet, as that's still on nightlies. But in your opinion, do you think CM9.1 is up to snuff with CM7 in terms of performance and battery life?

I think it is definitely there in stability but I don't think anything beats CM7 in battery life setting for setting. Next would be the TW GB ROMs and then CM9 for battery life..imho.

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I think it is definitely there in stability but I don't think anything beats CM7 in battery life setting for setting. Next would be the TW GB ROMs and then CM9 for battery life..imho.
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Your humble opinion is much appreciated. In general, does CM7/GB have better battery life than CM9/ICS, or is the difference in battery life specific to the Epic ROMs?

i got some of my best battery life on CM9 about 19 hours with 2 hour onscreen time all push notifications off , i'd recommend getting a epic 4g touch battery for her the extra 300mAh makes all the difference on the ride home from work

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Your humble opinion is much appreciated. In general, does CM7/GB have better battery life than CM9/ICS, or is the difference in battery life specific to the Epic ROMs?
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Yes on the Epic, in my experience because CM9, ICS and JB are meant for phones with 1GB of RAM and is tough on resources. If you use a GB ROM the same as a CM9 or higher ROM with notifications and syncs on, GB will get better battery life everytime. I would get 4 Hours screen on time with my Epic on The People's ROM and be about 30% when putting on charge at night.

For battery life CM7 ROCKS!!!!!!!!! CM9 not so much and I haven't tried 10 but 9 gives me issues so not even thinking of 10. I have CM7 on both mine and wife's phone and she couldn't be more happy.

tazfanatic said:
For battery life CM7 ROCKS!!!!!!!!!
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Agreed!
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CM9 not so much
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Agreed again, though if you turn off data, it is a battery sipper, but that is not a best solution for everyone.
IMO, for the typical person that does not demand the bleeding edge, CM7 is the way to go. You get solid performance, great battery life, and all the benefits of a CM build.

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Yeah not a option for me or my wife.

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[Q] Best rom/kernel to put on friends Incredible?

So my friend wants me to root his Incredible and install a Rom on his phone to help with the performance and battery issues he's been having. What do you guys think is the best Rom/Kernel for the Incredible and what mod's and tweaks should I put on it for him? I likely won't be able to update things for him much so I want something that's stable.
I was thinking CM 7.1 like I have on my Atrix 4G which I love but what do you guys suggest because you all actually have the phone?
Sorry for the noobish question, I just don't know that much about the Incredible and the development going on for it.
Thanks!
There's that CM7.1, or Bugless Beast, or if he wants our Incredible stock Sense, there's roms like Stock+, and a few others that are pretty nice. They're all stable, and as for kernels, go onto Incredikernel.com, and go to latest downloads, and you'll see kernels for AOSP roms, or some for Sense roms under that. Even though there's a bunch, just get the latest, those are probably the best Incredible kernels, they're nice on battery life, and have a lot of other nifty features. Also, for roms, if he would like MIUI, last time I tried it, it was virtually bug free, but I just don't personally care for it, because of the iOS look. Good luck though, hope this helps with what you're doing.
I've been using Joelz Prime-XL-3D (Sense 3.5, GB 2.3.5) for a couple of weeks now, and I love it. I was on a stock ROM forever thinking that speed and battery life would be better, but I was wrong. Yes this is slightly slower than stock, and the battery lasts about an hour less than before (maybe I use it more now?), but I can live with both. I'm about to try Tiny's latest kernal so maybe battery life increases.
The only problem I have had (and it's a known issue) is that the camera FC's all the time, sometimes requiring a battery pull. But again I love it.
Inc deck with incredikernel.
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Cm 7.1 with incredikernel, ext 4 mod, adrenaline mod, and undervolt slightly with incredicontrol.
-My life is a shooting range, people never change-
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Cm 7.1 with incredikernel, ext 4 mod, adrenaline mod, and undervolt slightly with incredicontrol.
-My life is a shooting range, people never change-
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doubled ^ ^
you might want to skip the undervolting. It's a lengthy process to get it right and still if you shoot up a lot of programs at once it can cause your phone to reboot. Mainly happens to me when I used the camera, the worst time ever for it to reboot when I want to capture a moment.
But if you use the above you'll for sure get much better speed, performance, battery life with a little flare of sexy if you choose (customizing your launchers, widget locker, or if you use android kitchen)
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doubled ^ ^
you might want to skip the undervolting. It's a lengthy process to get it right and still if you shoot up a lot of programs at once it can cause your phone to reboot. Mainly happens to me when I used the camera, the worst time ever for it to reboot when I want to capture a moment.
But if you use the above you'll for sure get much better speed, performance, battery life with a little flare of sexy if you choose (customizing your launchers, widget locker, or if you use android kitchen)
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I was just gonna say a -25 drop to min and Max.
-My life is a shooting range, people never change-
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I was just gonna say a -25 drop to min and Max.
-My life is a shooting range, people never change-
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I tried that on mine, worked great most of the time but occasionally caused reboots at really bad times. I figured it wasn't worth the battery gain, but all phones are different and can handle different voltages so it probably still is worth to try it out.
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Cm 7.1 with incredikernel, ext 4 mod, adrenaline mod, and undervolt slightly with incredicontrol.
-My life is a shooting range, people never change-
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POQbum said:
doubled ^ ^
you might want to skip the undervolting. It's a lengthy process to get it right and still if you shoot up a lot of programs at once it can cause your phone to reboot. Mainly happens to me when I used the camera, the worst time ever for it to reboot when I want to capture a moment.
But if you use the above you'll for sure get much better speed, performance, battery life with a little flare of sexy if you choose (customizing your launchers, widget locker, or if you use android kitchen)
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I was just gonna say a -25 drop to min and Max.
-My life is a shooting range, people never change-
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POQbum said:
I tried that on mine, worked great most of the time but occasionally caused reboots at really bad times. I figured it wasn't worth the battery gain, but all phones are different and can handle different voltages so it probably still is worth to try it out.
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Thanks guys!
I think I'll just put CM 7.1 on it with EXT4 /data and /cache and undervolt it. I'm running V6 Supercharger on my Atrix, what do you guys recommend for the Incredible? Universal Adrenaline V13 or V6 Supercharger Update 9 RC3.2?
Thanks again.
try adrenaline first,luckily you can mount and delete the scripts,restart then try v6 and compare,most of what u seek needs to be established by trial and error with comparison since everyone is different. odds are you'll be on cm7 if you go aosp route....incredikernel is best for that,everything else past that is personal choice once you experiment everything

Battery: GNex Vs Inc

I am going to be upgrading tomorrow to a GNex and I am coming from an Incredible. I have owned the Inc. since release, and have seen it come a really long way in development.
I am wondering what to expect from the battery compared the the Inc, also what is the recommended kernel people are using for battery life with the Gnex?
Any other overall comments about the Gnex (especially those coming from an Inc)
FWIW I was running CM7.1 with chads incredikernel.
Thanks
bradm23 said:
I am going to be upgrading tomorrow to a GNex and I am coming from an Incredible. I have owned the Inc. since release, and have seen it come a really long way in development.
I am wondering what to expect from the battery compared the the Inc, also what is the recommended kernel people are using for battery life with the Gnex?
Any other overall comments about the Gnex (especially those coming from an Inc)
FWIW I was running CM7.1 with chads incredikernel.
Thanks
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I too came from the Incredible to the GN. I was always thrilled with the abundance of new and different roms and kernels for the Dinc. I have not yet rooted my GN but also I haven't felt the strong need to just yet. As for battery life it is hard to say it is better or worse because a lot of it depends on the user. I personally am satisfied with it knowing it is an LTE device which will burn it up faster and it's screen is larger so there's more battery drainage, and then there is the "shinny new toy effect". When I got the GN I had no illusions of the battery being OMG amazing but I have been happily surprised. Just use a brightness control, short screen timeout and you'll be fine. I must admit that I did not get the GN for what it is but rather what it can and will be from the amazing devs out there because I figure it will be just like the Dinc as in it can only get better from here.
bradm23 said:
I am going to be upgrading tomorrow to a GNex and I am coming from an Incredible. I have owned the Inc. since release, and have seen it come a really long way in development.
I am wondering what to expect from the battery compared the the Inc, also what is the recommended kernel people are using for battery life with the Gnex?
Any other overall comments about the Gnex (especially those coming from an Inc)
FWIW I was running CM7.1 with chads incredikernel.
Thanks
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I also came from a Dinc and had it since the day before its launch. I ran every rom and kernal out there and was getting about 20 hrs under normal usage.
The gnex out the box has been giving me 12 hours of normal use. But the fun is beginning. With a few tweaks i am getting about 20 hours. Granted i am not in a 4g area yet so i have that turned off but i think that battery life is exceptable given the monster screen its pushing...
Kernals are starting to pop up and if your from the Dinc community you should know HeyItsLou and I am running one of his Gnex kernals now.
Smooth as silk baby
I am not sure about the original Incredible, but I had an Incredible 2 for a few months. The battery life was noticeably better but, what you have to realize is that due to the screen size and LTE radio, the battery is going to drain much faster. For that matter, any 4G phone is going to destroy the battery while LTE is on. As others have said, try to use wifi as much as possible and switch to CDMA mode when not using heavy data. Oh, and even though the battery status may show that the screen is using it all the juice, the radio is actually playing a big roll in that.

[Q][kernal] What's a good one?

I have stock rooted, I love the phone and didn't want to flash a ROM so soon but I was wondering, what's a good kernal thats better than stock, that increases battery while not affecting the speed negatively, I currently get about 10-12hrs on my battery as is
Search doesn't work that well for me on mobile, so sorry if previously asked although I did scan the threads but just wanted to see how you guys are doing with your current kernals
Swyped from my Sgs2 T989
Try tdj's dark side kernel. Very smooth and great battery life. Plus you can overclock and under volt.
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GreggoryD502 said:
Try tdj's dark side kernel. Very smooth and great battery life. Plus you can overclock and under volt.
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Thank you for the info but when you say great battery life do you mean better than stock?
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relldroid said:
I have stock rooted, I love the phone and didn't want to flash a ROM so soon but I was wondering, what's a good kernal thats better than stock, that increases battery while not affecting the speed negatively, I currently get about 10-12hrs on my battery as is
Search doesn't work that well for me on mobile, so sorry if previously asked although I did scan the threads but just wanted to see how you guys are doing with your current kernals
Swyped from my Sgs2 T989
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i think there's only about 4-5 options out there... but each phone's hardware is different so each kernel will be different.
For example, my phone works really well with faux and darkside, but i get quite a bit of drain from eugene's kernel (yes I do configure my clock speed and voltages) people say synergy has great battery life and is smooth, however, my phone says different. it lagged more than the 3 mentioned and battery life was equivalent. There is also the bullet kernel... i haven't played with that... not sure if im missing any other kernels... but yeah i suggest giving the first three a try first as they are currently being supported.
reminder, you should let your phone go through at least 2 charges before comparing kernel's battery life etc... and with our phone.. thats 2 days lol
Pretty much any of the kernels on the first page will give you better than stock battery life. Faux, synergy and the dark side kernel are the three most popular kernels amongst Devs so that must mean something.
relldroid said:
Thank you for the info but when you say great battery life do you mean better than stock?
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yes it is better than stock, most of us actually UNDERclock because these devs are amazing lol
Thank you all for the reply, I've got some experimenting to do!
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relldroid said:
Thank you for the info but when you say great battery life do you mean better than stock?
Swyped from my Sgs2 T989
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To be honest, i only ran stock for a few hours. Ive been running a custom rom since day 1. But I believe it would be better then stock because TDJ has undervolted the kernel slightly.
I'm using the darkside right now and so far so good
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I've tried most of the popular kernels and the best battery life I've observed has been with Synergy... hands down gives me the best standby battery life.
But what I've noticed that gives me even better battery life is just turning off mobile data when I don't need it (in class, during meetings)... which also turns off the background syncing.
But in the end, it's all up to you how crazy you want to get with your battery management.

Am I the only one still using GB???

I have found that out of all the ROM's Ive tried, even the latest JB ones, that the ones with the best battery life and stability were Blazer and Calks 3.0. Those of which are on Gingerbread. So, am I the only one that thinks or agrees to this? I might not be "up to date" but my performance is damn good! =)
must be
What little extra battery life I'm not getting on FK23 & FL16 compared to GB is not worth all the extra goodies I would have to live without. For me GB is boring and the tradeoff is more than worth it.
Have you tried both the TW JB and the AOSP JB roms?
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I have found that out of all the ROM's Ive tried, even the latest JB ones, that the ones with the best battery life and stability were Blazer and Calks 3.0. Those of which are on Gingerbread. So, am I the only one that thinks or agrees to this? I might not be "up to date" but my performance is damn good! =)
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Haha, you're not the only one. After DD'ing Jellybean leaks for the past 25 days, I flashed back to my Calkulin nandroid backup for its awesome battery life. . I got the best Jellybean battery life on fl16 (3 hrs 45 mins) but it can't compare to the ~6 hrs on calkulin. I'm just gonna wait now for the ota Jellybean + source before I try it again.
jburke90 said:
I have found that out of all the ROM's Ive tried, even the latest JB ones, that the ones with the best battery life and stability were Blazer and Calks 3.0. Those of which are on Gingerbread. So, am I the only one that thinks or agrees to this? I might not be "up to date" but my performance is damn good! =)
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Probably not the 'only' one. But in these parts XDA Developers you will certainly be in the minority.
By it's very nature these forums are for those looking for the latest greatest and bleeding edge technologies and tweaks.
The latest JB builds are awesome. Good battery, hotspot working natively (so far). Stable. Google Now natively. More responsiveness. Nicer looking and more customizable. I get about 14+ hours with fairyly heavy usage - my cell is my phone for work and home.
Yes these forums do provide some great stuff for the 'regular joe' but that's not what the forums are here for. We try to work together to get the most out of the devices as possible. That usually means functionalily and features 1st, performance 2nd and battery 3rd. I do know that there are some devs who may change those orders but that is usually the case.
I have always been amused by the 'how long does your battery last' crowd. While I think any phone should last at least a day with a good battery and reasonable usage I think it's silly to 'demand' more. It's 2012 get another battery (or external battery for emergencies) for backup, grab more chargers - I have one in all cars, home office work office and laptop bags.
Just my two cents.
Have you tried replacing your battery ? I just bought 2 new ones from Anker and my phone is getting better battery life and I'm running FL16 JB. I am delighted with the purchase and wish I had done it sooner. Here's link and read up on them as well.
Anker battery for D710
Good luck
Personally I use CM10 on my phone, but on my mate's phone, it's running Blazer's 4.1 GB sheerly because of the WiMax speeds. If I didn't love flashing the latest and greatest, I would've stuck with GB too.
From my experience, nothing beats calkulin's 2.8.1. I wanted to like more current roms, but even with underclocking, ics and jb chug the battery. People can ask or claim that your battery is bad. If the battery is bad then why can I get about double the battery life out of calkulin when compared to more recent roms? Same battery, twice the run time, practically no lag or noticeable performance hit. I was halfway through my second extended life battery during a normal shift at work with ics and jb when going home when I'd be around 20% with calkulin gb on the first battery. I'm not saying everyone else is wrong in their preferences, but to me, battery efficiency without noticeable CPU hit means everything. Other builds seem sluggish and battery hogs to me. Don't get me wrong, there's some cool features with new builds but the trade off of battery isn't worth it to me. It's a damned shame calkulin moved onto other pastures. He definitely knew his $hit when it came to tweaking rooms and I like his choices he took in his earlier builds with this phone.
I think if calkulin and bugless beast Pete got together, their rom would be damned near bulletproof. Peter Alfonzo.
Pacman ROM has amazing battery life for being JB. Plenty of customization tweaks as well, I used to only rock blazer 4.1 as well but some of my apps got updated and now require to be on ICS or JB based ROM.
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try another kernel on JB...may be its make ur battery life to be good...
You must have amazing battery life cuz fk23 has matched el29 battery wise and has better signal for me anyway
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A more typical day
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What's the screen on time
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What's the screen on time
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Usually around 40 to 50%
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Ics
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i keep auto sync on too
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My thoughts on GB ICS and JB on the Epic 4G Touch.

I'll just be giving everyone a little history on my experiences with the Epic 4G Touch and it's OS iterations since release.
Purchased brand-new on 10/1/11. It came with 2.3.6. When mid 2012 came I heard about 4.0 ICS coming around, so I kept checking every 5 minutes for the new update implementation. Read that it's been delayed... not confirmed; Sprint said that they've no idea... blah blah blah, that sort of nut-shell...
So, when it FINALLY got to my phone, I was excited only to figure out these 3 issues.
1. It wasn't ANYWHERE as smooth, responsive, or as fluid as 2.3.6.
2. Had much... much worse battery life (FL27 barely fixed that....)
3. Had the infamous "Sprint ID has stopped responding" issue (FL24 fixed that?) - it went away when I got FL24.
So, within the last week or so, I got sick of waiting for 4.1.2 OTA from Sprint and or Samsung, so I decided to do what we all here do. We take matters into our own hands; so I did, and threw the GA10 Build 4.1.2 with Nature UX onto my Epic 4G Touch.
Now, I love it. It's smooth, and is as good as any UI overlayed Android flavor.
I would keep it...if me, I, personally didn't get horrid battery life from it. (4G off, auto-sync off, most "useless apps and programs running in the background were disabled. I had GPS off, and 50% or so screen brightness.
Guess what mmy battery drain rate was? 30% an hour.... using the phone for mid-use texting would bring battery life from 99% to 20% in about 50 minutes.
As you guessed, I had to do something about that...
Oh what about custom ROMS you might ask? Man you guys here at XDA are on the ball today. Thanks for asking.
I used AOSP Alpha 6 4.1.1 and TBH I loved it. That from what I've experienced on my handset was an OTA worthy build. No known bugs or issues to me... but it still had bad battery life (20-40% an hour drain..)
And I tried AOKP 4.1.1, which was HORRID overall in my experiance. Slow, and bad battery life.
So, if it's OK here... I've come to the conclusion that Android 2.3.6, overall, is the BEST ANDROID version to date.
It offers the best combination of speed/smoothness, and battery life.
I have a Nexus 7 with Android 4.2.1, and my stock Epic 4G Touch running 2.3.6, is JUST AS FAST, and JUST as responsive..
Tl;DR: I think GB is better then JB or ICS generally speaking, and I'm curiorus on what the XDA input is on all this..
Strange, my battery life on GA10 stock rooted is similar to GB. I get 18-24 hours with 2-3 hours of screen time most days. My batteries are both new 1800mah. I occasionally use gps nav, regularly use bluetooth and have email sync every 30 minutes. No facebook or twitter type apps.
The touchwiz experience is definitely better in JB as well. I was on AOSP roms for 6 months before this and never thought I would go back.
My thoughts ill sum it up quickly. Gb was is great. Fast and works. Ics is a joke and very glitchy. Stock jelly bean ga10 now were talking its flat out amazing. The new google search and refinement is top notch. I recieved new phone under warranty. Ga10 is so good I flashed it as soon as I pulled phone out of box. I just pulled 7 hour screen on time- 3.5 hours of tiger woods 2012 with cheapo extended battery.
Now on batteries. If there old and getting crappy life like you well replace it. I have multiple batteries and wall dock charger. That being said my phone never is plugged in to charge. Most people smart phone habbits is plug phone in all the time. Trying to cram a few %. That kills a battery. Destroys them! If you can fully charge on dock and fully discharge in phone then dock charge your dead batttery. They last much longer and keeps android battery meter happy. I have 2 stock samsung batteries that came with the phone. 1 is 14 months old and the other is 1 week old that came with replacement. The old one dies very fast while new one last all day. Amazon is your best friend
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I've come to the conclusion that Android 2.3.6, overall, is the BEST ANDROID version to date.
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Well good for you!
Hope you got your flame suit on.
I guess all the devs contributors and regulars here must be idiots or something. You know, trying to continually improve the OS, applications and experience. What's that all about? We should probably just take what we were given and be happy. I mean my old 66 VW bug was great, why would I want or need my new car?
After reading the 2 posts you've put up recently I think your problem is lack of understanding what you're doing. You should probably do alot more reading before you brick your phone, then the best Android version will be "none" cuz your phone's gonna be dead.
I like to break stuff!
Yeah, you didn't even try 4.2.1... Which is 10x better than GB. Touchwiz ICS I agree is atrocious.. but you only tried a couple AOSP JB ROMs and are condemning it as worse than GB. Now that is a joke!
And I am sure you didn't try to apply any kind of battery tweaks or even try ds battery saver. Idk for me GB was lacking in so many departments. But to each his own
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After reading the 2 posts you've put up recently I think your problem is lack of understanding what you're doing. You should probably do alot more reading before you brick your phone, then the best Android version will be "none" cuz your phone's gonna be dead.
I like to break stuff!
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I'm a noob when it comes to ROOTING and all things involving modification of them, true.
But, I know enough to come to the conclusion that Gingerbread has worked the best for me.
Perhaps I should have stated that the OP was subject to personal preference and bias.
I'm not trying to pass off anything I've said as absolute fact. Im just expressing my own two cents, so take what I say with a huge truck load of salt.
The OP says what I did, and what I experienced. Nothing more.
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Yeah, you didn't even try 4.2.1... Which is 10x better than GB. Touchwiz ICS I agree is atrocious.. but you only tried a couple AOSP JB ROMs and are condemning it as worse than GB. Now that is a joke!
And I am sure you didn't try to apply any kind of battery tweaks or even try ds battery saver. Idk for me GB was lacking in so many departments. But to each his own
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I never said 4.2.1 is worse then GB. I said that GB has proven to be faster, and more responsive then 4.2.1.
I have a Nexus 7 running 4.2.1.
With my stock phone, and stock tablet, GB runs just as smooth really. But I'd give the advantage to GB.
You are correct that I never tried any battery tweaks. I may have to when I learn how to.
But a stock GA10 ROM getting the lack of battery life I had?
If other people are reporting better battery life then even GB (Or even equal)
This means either I just did something wrong, or maybe it's not working for me.
I can accept either way.
Just saying how it all is... for me.
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Well good for you!
Hope you got your flame suit on.
I guess all the devs contributors and regulars here must be idiots or something. You know, trying to continually improve the OS, applications and experience. What's that all about? We should probably just take what we were given and be happy. I mean my old 66 VW bug was great, why would I want or need my new car?
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In my personal experiance, GingerBread has been the best FOR ME.
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Strange, my battery life on GA10 stock rooted is similar to GB. I get 18-24 hours with 2-3 hours of screen time most days. My batteries are both new 1800mah. I occasionally use gps nav, regularly use bluetooth and have email sync every 30 minutes. No facebook or twitter type apps.
The touchwiz experience is definitely better in JB as well. I was on AOSP roms for 6 months before this and never thought I would go back.
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See, your results are something I wish I had. I also use factory 1800Mah batterys. I have 4 total. 3 purchased on Amazon for just shy of $10.00, and one factory original.
What are you doing right? Or, what am I doing wrong? XD
OP, I know what you're trying to say and understand how you reached your personal conclusion and insight about the state of custom and official roms available for our phone. With that said, I think you should give the stock rooted FL16 rom an install and try it out. For me personally, it's the best Jellybean I've tried so far.
I tried in the past Gingerbread (EL29 OEM, Calkulin v3.0), ICS (OEM and Blue Kuban), and Jellybean (FK23, FL16, and GA10). And among those, I've had the smoothest experiences with OEM EL29, Calkulin v3.0, FL16, and GA10. GA10, however, had the call waiting bug and faster battery drain than FL16. So I went back to FL16. The battery life of FL16, though good, wasn't as good as Calkulin v3.0. So I bought myself a Gorilla Gadget 3500mah extended life battery and everything is perfect now.
I hope you can derive more fun and usage pleasure out of our phone in the feature.
I'll chime in. The feature set in Jelly vs. Ginger is no contest. Even if Jelly had a bit of lag and slightly less battery life (which I have none in GA10) I'd still use it over Ginger hands down. It's 10X more powerful. It's like comparing an xbox to an xbox 360.
A side note on battery life. Sure it was longer with ginger, that was when my battery was new. A year later, no rom is going to have equal battery life. Buy a new battery and then see how many hours you get off Jelly.
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gatesmarch123 said:
I'll chime in. The feature set in Jelly vs. Ginger is no contest. Even if Jelly had a bit of lag and slightly less battery life (which I have none in GA10) I'd still use it over Ginger hands down. It's 10X more powerful. It's like comparing an xbox to an xbox 360.
A side note on battery life. Sure it was longer with ginger, that was when my battery was new. A year later, no rom is going to have equal battery life. Buy a new battery and then see how many hours you get off Jelly.
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I have 3 batterys that are like-new. Maybe 20 charge cycles through 'em.
Also, GA10 has horrid battery life for me.
What did I do wrong?
Mansevolver said:
See, your results are something I wish I had. I also use factory 1800Mah batterys. I have 4 total. 3 purchased on Amazon for just shy of $10.00, and one factory original.
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I really jusy use my phone like normal with some minor adjustments for better battery life. I removed a few stock apps but nothing really significant mostly sprint and samsung bloatware. I don't use connection optimizer, removed it, but I am very good about manually toggling gps, bluetooth and wifi when not in use and backing out of apps. Default brightness with auto setting 1 minute off and I use notification light with blink app, fast blue for sms so I can see it quickly.
Email is set to sync schedule to check every 30 mins on weekdays with nights and weekends every 4 hours. Only email, gmail, calendar, contacts, and internet sync. Weather widget is updated every hour. Location services use wireless networks but not gps or google and google now is off.
I get a pretty 3g good signal most of the time. No 4g here in KY so its always off. I use wifi at home but not at work and at least an hour of my screen time is over 3g daily. I also use an external charger and run my batteries down to about 10% then power off and pop in a new one. Hope that helps you or somebody else.
Just get yourself a new phone with a bigger battery that will solve your problem thats what I did. For me I felt like GB was the best for the e4gt and well iCS was a joke snd well JB is great snd all but waiting for an update and for source just to make roms much better and kernels to get better battery is just taking too long. I solved my problem by getting a note 2 that runs JB real good and battery life is lovely especially when you dont have to carry extra batteries or a charger which is silly to me but thats just my 2 cents and plus im just a phone whore cuz im pretty sure when tge s4 or note 3 comes out ima just sell the note 2 and buy the latest best thing lol but that's just me.
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miketucky350 said:
My thoughts ill sum it up quickly. Gb was is great. Fast and works. Ics is a joke and very glitchy. Stock jelly bean ga10 now were talking its flat out amazing. The new google search and refinement is top notch. I recieved new phone under warranty. Ga10 is so good I flashed it as soon as I pulled phone out of box. I just pulled 7 hour screen on time- 3.5 hours of tiger woods 2012 with cheapo extended battery.
Now on batteries. If there old and getting crappy life like you well replace it. I have multiple batteries and wall dock charger. That being said my phone never is plugged in to charge. Most people smart phone habbits is plug phone in all the time. Trying to cram a few %. That kills a battery. Destroys them! If you can fully charge on dock and fully discharge in phone then dock charge your dead batttery. They last much longer and keeps android battery meter happy. I have 2 stock samsung batteries that came with the phone. 1 is 14 months old and the other is 1 week old that came with replacement. The old one dies very fast while new one last all day. Amazon is your best friend
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Amazon totally IS my best friend, when it comes to objects.
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My experience was opposite interestingly enough. When I first got my phone I took it back to the sprint store twice because the UI was so laggy I couldn't take it.
Decided to root and ROM. Flashed ICS and all lag was gone. JB is even better.
Gingerbread was horrendous for me.
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gb was ok. no lag or anything but I had flashed to page plus on stock el29 gb and was so afraid of upping to ics for fear of losing flash, I learned how to flash phones myself for the most part, which I didn't need personally because u never lose flash for it is stored in nvram and anyway best ics rom is either shadow God's universe, or sniper's lightweight, or the infamous blu kuban. best jb rom = shadow god's jellyverse for tw based, sniper's black beans rom for 4.2.
my personal favorite rom that I always come back to = PACman!
anyways, I didn't really experience much lag or anything from gb, ics, or jb
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I understand this is personal preference and bias, but you have to understand that these are still leaks. They have imperfections.
As far as battery life on gb vs jb, without tweaks, think of it like this.
You have a lawnmower engine (your battery) that runs great on your lawnmower (gb), then you decide to put that engine into a truck (jb) and you can't figure out why it doesn't work the same. Obviously the truck is much bigger, has more features, requires more resources right?
Its apples and oranges here man, a little research through existing threads will take you a long long way:beer:
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Stryke_the_Orc said:
I understand this is personal preference and bias, but you have to understand that these are still leaks. They have imperfections.
As far as battery life on gb vs jb, without tweaks, think of it like this.
You have a lawnmower engine (your battery) that runs great on your lawnmower (gb), then you decide to put that engine into a truck (jb) and you can't figure out why it doesn't work the same. Obviously the truck is much bigger, has more features, requires more resources right?
Its apples and oranges here man, a little research through existing threads will take you a long long way:beer:
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but u can tweak the motor to handle the bigger load
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