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Thoughts on ROM's so far??

So I'm new to the android community coming from an iphone 4S, and so far it's pretty awesome. lol. I've tried two ROM's, AOKP and TuchMi. So far i'm enjoying TuchMi since it brings the stock with all of Samsung's features, plus overclocking, V6 and all that. performance has been nice. As i'm trying to get more into android, I wanted to know you guy's thoughts on the two ROM's or maybe any other ones that might be better?? thanks in advance!

Stock, the best!

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Stock, the best!
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Just plain stock?? really think so??? Thing about AOKP, is the customizations.

Wanams Rom
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I was hoping this thread to run good since I am trying to get an idea on roms since I just got my S III today.

We got enough good roms going.
I mean we have a subsidized carrier phone, so it's pretty natural for the international counterpart would get more attention.
With that said, I love AOKP.

AOKP is beast. Just trying to test out different ROM's, but seriously, if you like touchwiz, check it out. Only thing is, my apps say they are invalid when I download. Any help??
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Diet ICS
Also tried TuchMi, it was pretty good.
Currently using the diet ICS build from 08/04 with the latest BLUE theme installed (found in the diet ICS thread from peterguru) and it looks and works great. Running ktoonz latest kernel (which allows underclocking to 192MHz and has more steps than faux123's v009) and smokin's CPU Editor with Battery Saver. Great battery life, great performance, awesome blue "diet" theme. Probably my favorite so far.
To be honest though the thing that made me switch and flash diet ICS over TuchMi 5.0 was the inclusion of Google Wallet (although now my phone thinks its a Galaxy Nexus ) -- still haven't been able to test it out in the wild though...

kswa1987 said:
Also tried TuchMi, it was pretty good.
Currently using the diet ICS build from 08/04 with the latest BLUE theme installed (found in the diet ICS thread from peterguru) and it looks and works great. Running ktoonz latest kernel (which allows underclocking to 192MHz and has more steps than faux123's v009) and smokin's CPU Editor with Battery Saver. Great battery life, great performance, awesome blue "diet" theme. Probably my favorite so far.
To be honest though the thing that made me switch and flash diet ICS over TuchMi 5.0 was the inclusion of Google Wallet (although now my phone thinks its a Galaxy Nexus ) -- still haven't been able to test it out in the wild though...
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I've been seeing alot about diet. So you say its a good one? Think i might flash it tonight.
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AOKP has been wonderful so far, flashed it from CM9 and not really seeing any reason to go back although both are great in their own ways.

Wanam has a really nice ROM. Well that's if you're one of us that actually likes Touchwiz. I for one love it. Smooth and excellent battery life.
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Just plain stock?? really think so??? Thing about AOKP, is the customizations.
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I've been on TuchMi-S3"X" 5.0 since i got my phone 2 weeks ago. So far the best. I tried Diet rom too, but it was a little skinny for me (lol?).
I tried AOKP today and I had used AOKP on my Atrix before, but I went back to TuchMis3x right away because its so far the best. Stable, Battery is insane too!
I'm just waiting for CM10 to fully come out for our phones and i'll make the switch!

Sooo, I switched from TuchMi to AOKP, and right after, my battery starts to drain. Drained about 5% within 2min. Running TuchMi, my battery barely moves. Now I'd have to say that it is successfully the best ROM imo. only problems are: my Google account syncs on and off with contacts, and sometimes i get a blue screen fracture. idk.

pguillory said:
Sooo, I switched from TuchMi to AOKP, and right after, my battery starts to drain. Drained about 5% within 2min. Running TuchMi, my battery barely moves. Now I'd have to say that it is successfully the best ROM imo. only problems are: my Google account syncs on and off with contacts, and sometimes i get a blue screen fracture. idk.
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If your battery drained that fast then something is wrong. Almost 11 hours on battery with 2 hours of screen time, lte on all day and wifi on past 3 hours and I am sitting at 62% right now. I am on aokp ics right now. Only thing keeping me from newer updates is that HBO go doesn't work in any of the cm10 based in roms yet that I know of
I would also like to point out that it takes several battery cycles before a rom fully settles in and you find out how it truly performs with battery.
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crash822 said:
If your battery drained that fast then something is wrong. Almost 11 hours on battery with 2 hours of screen time, lte on all day and wifi on past 3 hours and I am sitting at 62% right now. I am on aokp ics right now. Only thing keeping me from newer updates is that HBO go doesn't work in any of the cm10 based in roms yet that I know of
I would also like to point out that it takes several battery cycles before a rom fully settles in and you find out how it truly performs with battery.
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Thanks for that. Like I said, I'm new to this so I didn't know what was going on, so the first thing that came to my mind was to go back. Now I just flashed the AOKP jb ROM. The AOKP that i had before was the CM9 based one i believe? lol. Either way, thanks man. added a little more confidence for me lol.

Jellybro from Euroskank the best one for my needs. not the last one though. 2 days battery, butter smooth, love the Jelly aesthetics and simplicity.

When the bugs are worked out of paranoid android I would say give that a run. The ability to run phone and tablet on one device together flawlessly is great. Plus you ave full control over the size of all apps and the such.

JellyBro is my top pick, then would be a stock ROM ([ROM]{??/??/????}TEAM_INSOMNIA PrEsEnTs ARISTODEMOS) and after that I'd say AOKP CM9 based for EXTREMELY long battery life.

been using cm9 for a few days, perfectly stable so far and great battery life. Can't beat stock ics

Blazer
I have been on Blazer O/C with the Kalagas mixed ICS Theme and love it. Seems all the stock based ROMS are fine with some nice tweaks

AOSP JELLY or CM10 JELLY

Which do you prefer and why. I Basically want the pro's and con's. I know CM10 is not meant for our phones, heck even CM9 for that matter. So im curious... whats your flavor.
How long have you been using JB (either one) and what's your battery like. Or how did you make it better.
What modem works for you and why.
Let's see some screenshots of your battery.

Its not that its not meant for our phones but not officially supported
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Correct. But it does work better on other phones. But you are correct thanks for correcting me.

I am a big CM fan and after using the alphas I strayed and lived on the Unofficial CM9 nightlies for a while. I found those very smooth, but had sub-par battery.
After jumping back to GB for a month or so, I have played with both CM10 and JB AOSP. As expected, CM10 has more customization options while AOSP is very lean. Performance is very similar between the two as there has been a lot of collaboration between the devs and functionality is continually improving VERY fast with each update.
That being said, the only thing I miss on either ROM is bluetooth for media. Everything else that I use is working without issue. Some have reported LOS, but I have not experienced it with a clean data wipe and fresh install. I am still holding on to the EL29 modem, but considering trying a couple of the newer releases.
As for my preference, I am using JB AOSP as my DD at this point because I have experienced VERY good battery life with practical use CM10 seemed to drain a little faster, but it is coming along quite nicely IMO. Moving from Calks GB 3.0 to the JB ROMS lately has not been a dramatic transition in terms of battery and that is saying something.
I hope that is what you were looking for. Either way, IMO you can't go wrong test driving both and seeing which one does it for you.
Edit 1 (AOSP Alpha 5): Bluetooth media has been working since Alpha 4 and it is very stable. With Alpha 5, the screen transition from portrait to landscape (and back) is more responsive as it has been a little slow in the previous builds. This is a very nice build. The battery issue seems to be that the phone does not charge completely but shows 99-100% when disconnecting from the charger. Sbrissen has noted a potential battery fix on Alpha 5. I have not had it long enough to report anything at this point.

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I am a big CM fan and after using the alphas I strayed and lived on the Unofficial CM9 nightlies for a while. I found those very smooth, but had sub-par battery.
After jumping back to GB for a month or so, I have played with both CM10 and JB AOSP. As expected, CM10 has more customization options while AOSP is very lean. Performance is very similar between the two as there has been a lot of collaboration between the devs and functionality is continually improving VERY fast with each update.
That being said, the only thing I miss on either ROM is bluetooth for media. Everything else that I use is working without issue. Some have reported LOS, but I have not experienced it with a clean data wipe and fresh install. I am still holding on to the EL29 modem, but considering trying a couple of the newer releases.
As for my preference, I am using JB AOSP as my DD at this point because I have experience VERY good battery life with practical use CM10 seemed to drain a little faster, but it is coming along quite nicely IMO. Moving from Calks GB 3.0 to the JB ROMS lately has not been a dramatic transition in terms of battery and that is saying something.
I hope that is what you were looking for. Either way, IMO you can't go wrong test driving both and seeing which one does it for you.
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That's exactly what I was looking for thank you sir.

Jelly bean running smoothly
I'm running Sbrissens aosp alpha 3 and its smooth sailing with no known issues so far! Also think its a DD for me,battery is not melting my phone like previous builds.

jamesissocool said:
I am a big CM fan and after using the alphas I strayed and lived on the Unofficial CM9 nightlies for a while. I found those very smooth, but had sub-par battery.
After jumping back to GB for a month or so, I have played with both CM10 and JB AOSP. As expected, CM10 has more customization options while AOSP is very lean. Performance is very similar between the two as there has been a lot of collaboration between the devs and functionality is continually improving VERY fast with each update.
That being said, the only thing I miss on either ROM is bluetooth for media. Everything else that I use is working without issue. Some have reported LOS, but I have not experienced it with a clean data wipe and fresh install. I am still holding on to the EL29 modem, but considering trying a couple of the newer releases.
As for my preference, I am using JB AOSP as my DD at this point because I have experience VERY good battery life with practical use CM10 seemed to drain a little faster, but it is coming along quite nicely IMO. Moving from Calks GB 3.0 to the JB ROMS lately has not been a dramatic transition in terms of battery and that is saying something.
I hope that is what you were looking for. Either way, IMO you can't go wrong test driving both and seeing which one does it for you.
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I've been waiting for a post like this since Sbrissen released the ROM. Think I shall finally give it a go and see how it runs.

cm10 ftw.
after using cm you'll find it hard to go back to anything else! (unless its aokp)
there is just endless customization options..

cm10 may have more features for me aosp is a lil better far as battery and smoothness i ran both for a lil over a day aosp is the winner

Check out SB's AOSP Alpha 3. All the reviews say it is coming along nicely (almost Beta)
I tried it back when it was private, and it was amazing (other than LOS, which he seemed to have fixed)
So I'm installing it again now.

CM10 vs. AOSP
Well, for me CM does the trick. And when I got the EpTouch and found out it was not supported by CM, I was heartbroken. The Epic Touch is such a wonderful device with its screen, and CPU power; granted there are a number of devices currently better than this phone.
I think CM is a better choice just for how well they support development. I have never had an AOSP ROM before, but I enjoyed being able to boot into recovery from hitting the power button. I even enjoyed playing with a few of the CM settings in the phone.
AOSP is just pure, 100% Android, and is great if that is what you want. But, I still want a little suprises here and there.

Cm is very stable for the epic. They are quite close to official I would say.
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Nice post, guys. I'm gonna flash cm10 now. Haha.:victory:

What is the best way to go to AOSP from EL29 GB? And of get back to GB if needed?
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bigblue4life said:
What is the best way to go to AOSP from EL29 GB? And of get back to GB if needed?
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Use el26 cwm and wipe everything. To go back just use one click.

Well I was running the AOSP build and loved it with the exception that WiFi tether won't work. Can anyone confirm it works on cm10 before I go through the trouble of flashing?

From what I read, Wifi tether is not working on Jellybean right now and have been running CM10 Alpha 4 for over 12 hours now. Let your Rom settle. It takes time to set your accounts back up with syncing and will drain your battery the first cycle. The first battery cycle had 3 hours. I left it off and let it charge over night. I have now had it off the charger for an hour and half and am still at 87%. A huge increase since first cycle. In that same time I have a 1% Time without Cell signal (LOS).... I had this on GB, just b/c I have one tower about 3 miles away that I'm anchored to. If you haven't already I would recommend flashing the new FH13 modem as well.

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From what I read, Wifi tether is not working on Jellybean right now and have been running CM10 Alpha 4 for over 12 hours now. Let your Rom settle. It takes time to set your accounts back up with syncing and will drain your battery the first cycle. The first battery cycle had 3 hours. I left it off and let it charge over night. I have now had it off the charger for an hour and half and am still at 87%. A huge increase since first cycle. In that same time I have a 1% Time without Cell signal (LOS).... I had this on GB, just b/c I have one tower about 3 miles away that I'm anchored to. If you haven't already I would recommend flashing the new FH13 modem as well.
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Well, from what i read from your reply is, I dont know what im talking about , yada yada yada.... If you read a little closer it says wifi tether is not working on the AOSP build. I clearly asked above if someone could verify that it is indeed working on the CM10 build. Is that what you are trying to say? Cause no one here said they are having problems with syncing or other accounts.

Cm10 alpha 4 is running great, I was running el29 modem but I had some issues with Los, after I upgraded to fh13 I have not experienced any more Los. also turning off location services gets better battery in deep sleep.
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CM10 alpha 4 is not working well for me with LOS issues. I keep getting LOS atleast 4-5 times a day needing a reboot... going to try ASOP.

Battery Up Times

It would be nice to have a list of how long batteries last on different rom types for different people. The premise is easy enough, but I would like to mention that I don't want to know, "What ROM is Best". Simply thought it would be nice to know what rom types have better battery life since that is the largest factor in flashing a rom (for me at least).
So, I have flashed multiple roms and have found that AOKP and AOSP have horrible battery lives on GB, but seem to last much longer on ICS and JB.
On the other hand, I see that Sense has great battery lives, but only as far as Sense 1.0.
I would also like to know why it is this way? What is it about GB, ICS, JB, AOSP, AOKP, and Sense that determines battery life.
If everyone that posts would mention what rom TYPE (eg., ICS, AOSP, AOKP, etc.) you are using, your battery life, any tweaks or mods you're using, and if you have an extended battery or not.
Hopefully this brings some clarity as to why our phones act the way they do, and how to improve battery life.
Thanks everyone.

NeedToMod said:
It would be nice to have a list of how long batteries last on different rom types for different people. The premise is easy enough, but I would like to mention that I don't want to know, "What ROM is Best". Simply thought it would be nice to know what rom types have better battery life since that is the largest factor in flashing a rom (for me at least).
So, I have flashed multiple roms and have found that AOKP and AOSP have horrible battery lives on GB, but seem to last much longer on ICS and JB.
On the other hand, I see that Sense has great battery lives, but only as far as Sense 1.0.
I would also like to know why it is this way? What is it about GB, ICS, JB, AOSP, AOKP, and Sense that determines battery life.
If everyone that posts would mention what rom TYPE (eg., ICS, AOSP, AOKP, etc.) you are using, your battery life, any tweaks or mods you're using, and if you have an extended battery or not.
Hopefully this brings some clarity as to why our phones act the way they do, and how to improve battery life.
Thanks everyone.
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Well.. it depends on the phone too ya know. Like guy 1 might have great batt life on gb soap and guy 2 may not.
But personally, I have great batt life with legendary 1.2. I can go about 15-18 hours with light to moderate usage
Heres a thread I started about batt life.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1817328
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Oh, my bad. Wish our posts could be merged. We both had the same basic idea. I just didn't think about the screenshots. Great minds think alike.
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My thoughts on GB ICS and JB on the Epic 4G Touch.

I'll just be giving everyone a little history on my experiences with the Epic 4G Touch and it's OS iterations since release.
Purchased brand-new on 10/1/11. It came with 2.3.6. When mid 2012 came I heard about 4.0 ICS coming around, so I kept checking every 5 minutes for the new update implementation. Read that it's been delayed... not confirmed; Sprint said that they've no idea... blah blah blah, that sort of nut-shell...
So, when it FINALLY got to my phone, I was excited only to figure out these 3 issues.
1. It wasn't ANYWHERE as smooth, responsive, or as fluid as 2.3.6.
2. Had much... much worse battery life (FL27 barely fixed that....)
3. Had the infamous "Sprint ID has stopped responding" issue (FL24 fixed that?) - it went away when I got FL24.
So, within the last week or so, I got sick of waiting for 4.1.2 OTA from Sprint and or Samsung, so I decided to do what we all here do. We take matters into our own hands; so I did, and threw the GA10 Build 4.1.2 with Nature UX onto my Epic 4G Touch.
Now, I love it. It's smooth, and is as good as any UI overlayed Android flavor.
I would keep it...if me, I, personally didn't get horrid battery life from it. (4G off, auto-sync off, most "useless apps and programs running in the background were disabled. I had GPS off, and 50% or so screen brightness.
Guess what mmy battery drain rate was? 30% an hour.... using the phone for mid-use texting would bring battery life from 99% to 20% in about 50 minutes.
As you guessed, I had to do something about that...
Oh what about custom ROMS you might ask? Man you guys here at XDA are on the ball today. Thanks for asking.
I used AOSP Alpha 6 4.1.1 and TBH I loved it. That from what I've experienced on my handset was an OTA worthy build. No known bugs or issues to me... but it still had bad battery life (20-40% an hour drain..)
And I tried AOKP 4.1.1, which was HORRID overall in my experiance. Slow, and bad battery life.
So, if it's OK here... I've come to the conclusion that Android 2.3.6, overall, is the BEST ANDROID version to date.
It offers the best combination of speed/smoothness, and battery life.
I have a Nexus 7 with Android 4.2.1, and my stock Epic 4G Touch running 2.3.6, is JUST AS FAST, and JUST as responsive..
Tl;DR: I think GB is better then JB or ICS generally speaking, and I'm curiorus on what the XDA input is on all this..

Strange, my battery life on GA10 stock rooted is similar to GB. I get 18-24 hours with 2-3 hours of screen time most days. My batteries are both new 1800mah. I occasionally use gps nav, regularly use bluetooth and have email sync every 30 minutes. No facebook or twitter type apps.
The touchwiz experience is definitely better in JB as well. I was on AOSP roms for 6 months before this and never thought I would go back.

My thoughts ill sum it up quickly. Gb was is great. Fast and works. Ics is a joke and very glitchy. Stock jelly bean ga10 now were talking its flat out amazing. The new google search and refinement is top notch. I recieved new phone under warranty. Ga10 is so good I flashed it as soon as I pulled phone out of box. I just pulled 7 hour screen on time- 3.5 hours of tiger woods 2012 with cheapo extended battery.
Now on batteries. If there old and getting crappy life like you well replace it. I have multiple batteries and wall dock charger. That being said my phone never is plugged in to charge. Most people smart phone habbits is plug phone in all the time. Trying to cram a few %. That kills a battery. Destroys them! If you can fully charge on dock and fully discharge in phone then dock charge your dead batttery. They last much longer and keeps android battery meter happy. I have 2 stock samsung batteries that came with the phone. 1 is 14 months old and the other is 1 week old that came with replacement. The old one dies very fast while new one last all day. Amazon is your best friend
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I've come to the conclusion that Android 2.3.6, overall, is the BEST ANDROID version to date.
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Well good for you!
Hope you got your flame suit on.
I guess all the devs contributors and regulars here must be idiots or something. You know, trying to continually improve the OS, applications and experience. What's that all about? We should probably just take what we were given and be happy. I mean my old 66 VW bug was great, why would I want or need my new car?

After reading the 2 posts you've put up recently I think your problem is lack of understanding what you're doing. You should probably do alot more reading before you brick your phone, then the best Android version will be "none" cuz your phone's gonna be dead.
I like to break stuff!

Yeah, you didn't even try 4.2.1... Which is 10x better than GB. Touchwiz ICS I agree is atrocious.. but you only tried a couple AOSP JB ROMs and are condemning it as worse than GB. Now that is a joke!
And I am sure you didn't try to apply any kind of battery tweaks or even try ds battery saver. Idk for me GB was lacking in so many departments. But to each his own

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After reading the 2 posts you've put up recently I think your problem is lack of understanding what you're doing. You should probably do alot more reading before you brick your phone, then the best Android version will be "none" cuz your phone's gonna be dead.
I like to break stuff!
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I'm a noob when it comes to ROOTING and all things involving modification of them, true.
But, I know enough to come to the conclusion that Gingerbread has worked the best for me.
Perhaps I should have stated that the OP was subject to personal preference and bias.
I'm not trying to pass off anything I've said as absolute fact. Im just expressing my own two cents, so take what I say with a huge truck load of salt.
The OP says what I did, and what I experienced. Nothing more.

bilgerryan said:
Yeah, you didn't even try 4.2.1... Which is 10x better than GB. Touchwiz ICS I agree is atrocious.. but you only tried a couple AOSP JB ROMs and are condemning it as worse than GB. Now that is a joke!
And I am sure you didn't try to apply any kind of battery tweaks or even try ds battery saver. Idk for me GB was lacking in so many departments. But to each his own
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I never said 4.2.1 is worse then GB. I said that GB has proven to be faster, and more responsive then 4.2.1.
I have a Nexus 7 running 4.2.1.
With my stock phone, and stock tablet, GB runs just as smooth really. But I'd give the advantage to GB.
You are correct that I never tried any battery tweaks. I may have to when I learn how to.
But a stock GA10 ROM getting the lack of battery life I had?
If other people are reporting better battery life then even GB (Or even equal)
This means either I just did something wrong, or maybe it's not working for me.
I can accept either way.
Just saying how it all is... for me.

leaderbuilder said:
Well good for you!
Hope you got your flame suit on.
I guess all the devs contributors and regulars here must be idiots or something. You know, trying to continually improve the OS, applications and experience. What's that all about? We should probably just take what we were given and be happy. I mean my old 66 VW bug was great, why would I want or need my new car?
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In my personal experiance, GingerBread has been the best FOR ME.

someguyatx said:
Strange, my battery life on GA10 stock rooted is similar to GB. I get 18-24 hours with 2-3 hours of screen time most days. My batteries are both new 1800mah. I occasionally use gps nav, regularly use bluetooth and have email sync every 30 minutes. No facebook or twitter type apps.
The touchwiz experience is definitely better in JB as well. I was on AOSP roms for 6 months before this and never thought I would go back.
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See, your results are something I wish I had. I also use factory 1800Mah batterys. I have 4 total. 3 purchased on Amazon for just shy of $10.00, and one factory original.
What are you doing right? Or, what am I doing wrong? XD

OP, I know what you're trying to say and understand how you reached your personal conclusion and insight about the state of custom and official roms available for our phone. With that said, I think you should give the stock rooted FL16 rom an install and try it out. For me personally, it's the best Jellybean I've tried so far.
I tried in the past Gingerbread (EL29 OEM, Calkulin v3.0), ICS (OEM and Blue Kuban), and Jellybean (FK23, FL16, and GA10). And among those, I've had the smoothest experiences with OEM EL29, Calkulin v3.0, FL16, and GA10. GA10, however, had the call waiting bug and faster battery drain than FL16. So I went back to FL16. The battery life of FL16, though good, wasn't as good as Calkulin v3.0. So I bought myself a Gorilla Gadget 3500mah extended life battery and everything is perfect now.
I hope you can derive more fun and usage pleasure out of our phone in the feature.

I'll chime in. The feature set in Jelly vs. Ginger is no contest. Even if Jelly had a bit of lag and slightly less battery life (which I have none in GA10) I'd still use it over Ginger hands down. It's 10X more powerful. It's like comparing an xbox to an xbox 360.
A side note on battery life. Sure it was longer with ginger, that was when my battery was new. A year later, no rom is going to have equal battery life. Buy a new battery and then see how many hours you get off Jelly.
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gatesmarch123 said:
I'll chime in. The feature set in Jelly vs. Ginger is no contest. Even if Jelly had a bit of lag and slightly less battery life (which I have none in GA10) I'd still use it over Ginger hands down. It's 10X more powerful. It's like comparing an xbox to an xbox 360.
A side note on battery life. Sure it was longer with ginger, that was when my battery was new. A year later, no rom is going to have equal battery life. Buy a new battery and then see how many hours you get off Jelly.
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I have 3 batterys that are like-new. Maybe 20 charge cycles through 'em.
Also, GA10 has horrid battery life for me.
What did I do wrong?

Mansevolver said:
See, your results are something I wish I had. I also use factory 1800Mah batterys. I have 4 total. 3 purchased on Amazon for just shy of $10.00, and one factory original.
What are you doing right? Or, what am I doing wrong? XD
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I really jusy use my phone like normal with some minor adjustments for better battery life. I removed a few stock apps but nothing really significant mostly sprint and samsung bloatware. I don't use connection optimizer, removed it, but I am very good about manually toggling gps, bluetooth and wifi when not in use and backing out of apps. Default brightness with auto setting 1 minute off and I use notification light with blink app, fast blue for sms so I can see it quickly.
Email is set to sync schedule to check every 30 mins on weekdays with nights and weekends every 4 hours. Only email, gmail, calendar, contacts, and internet sync. Weather widget is updated every hour. Location services use wireless networks but not gps or google and google now is off.
I get a pretty 3g good signal most of the time. No 4g here in KY so its always off. I use wifi at home but not at work and at least an hour of my screen time is over 3g daily. I also use an external charger and run my batteries down to about 10% then power off and pop in a new one. Hope that helps you or somebody else.

Just get yourself a new phone with a bigger battery that will solve your problem thats what I did. For me I felt like GB was the best for the e4gt and well iCS was a joke snd well JB is great snd all but waiting for an update and for source just to make roms much better and kernels to get better battery is just taking too long. I solved my problem by getting a note 2 that runs JB real good and battery life is lovely especially when you dont have to carry extra batteries or a charger which is silly to me but thats just my 2 cents and plus im just a phone whore cuz im pretty sure when tge s4 or note 3 comes out ima just sell the note 2 and buy the latest best thing lol but that's just me.
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miketucky350 said:
My thoughts ill sum it up quickly. Gb was is great. Fast and works. Ics is a joke and very glitchy. Stock jelly bean ga10 now were talking its flat out amazing. The new google search and refinement is top notch. I recieved new phone under warranty. Ga10 is so good I flashed it as soon as I pulled phone out of box. I just pulled 7 hour screen on time- 3.5 hours of tiger woods 2012 with cheapo extended battery.
Now on batteries. If there old and getting crappy life like you well replace it. I have multiple batteries and wall dock charger. That being said my phone never is plugged in to charge. Most people smart phone habbits is plug phone in all the time. Trying to cram a few %. That kills a battery. Destroys them! If you can fully charge on dock and fully discharge in phone then dock charge your dead batttery. They last much longer and keeps android battery meter happy. I have 2 stock samsung batteries that came with the phone. 1 is 14 months old and the other is 1 week old that came with replacement. The old one dies very fast while new one last all day. Amazon is your best friend
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Amazon totally IS my best friend, when it comes to objects.
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My experience was opposite interestingly enough. When I first got my phone I took it back to the sprint store twice because the UI was so laggy I couldn't take it.
Decided to root and ROM. Flashed ICS and all lag was gone. JB is even better.
Gingerbread was horrendous for me.
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gb was ok. no lag or anything but I had flashed to page plus on stock el29 gb and was so afraid of upping to ics for fear of losing flash, I learned how to flash phones myself for the most part, which I didn't need personally because u never lose flash for it is stored in nvram and anyway best ics rom is either shadow God's universe, or sniper's lightweight, or the infamous blu kuban. best jb rom = shadow god's jellyverse for tw based, sniper's black beans rom for 4.2.
my personal favorite rom that I always come back to = PACman!
anyways, I didn't really experience much lag or anything from gb, ics, or jb
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I understand this is personal preference and bias, but you have to understand that these are still leaks. They have imperfections.
As far as battery life on gb vs jb, without tweaks, think of it like this.
You have a lawnmower engine (your battery) that runs great on your lawnmower (gb), then you decide to put that engine into a truck (jb) and you can't figure out why it doesn't work the same. Obviously the truck is much bigger, has more features, requires more resources right?
Its apples and oranges here man, a little research through existing threads will take you a long long way:beer:
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Stryke_the_Orc said:
I understand this is personal preference and bias, but you have to understand that these are still leaks. They have imperfections.
As far as battery life on gb vs jb, without tweaks, think of it like this.
You have a lawnmower engine (your battery) that runs great on your lawnmower (gb), then you decide to put that engine into a truck (jb) and you can't figure out why it doesn't work the same. Obviously the truck is much bigger, has more features, requires more resources right?
Its apples and oranges here man, a little research through existing threads will take you a long long way:beer:
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but u can tweak the motor to handle the bigger load
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Current best known setup for battery life?

Currently I am on HO!NO!'s Full Throttle V9 (CM9 base) with a slight undervolt, an OC at 1.78Ghz, brightness on lowest, and LTE off. There is not a huge difference in battery life between HSPA+ and EDGE. The idle battery drain is about ~1%/hour which is pretty fair.
I've heard some people say they've gotten very good results on CM10.1 with Wind Kernel and I was was hoping that people could share what their setup is as far as achieving the battery life I've read about in some ROM threads. I feel outdated rocking CM9, when CM10.1 has alot of nice features I'd like to get in on.

imo the rom in my sig, but i haven't tested every one

for battery?
ICS: Liquid Nitro and HO!NO!'s v20f are probably the best, then HO!NO! CM9.
JB: I have no idea! Right now I'm running CM10.1M2+Wind, but it still drains too fast when in use, especially while using data/wifi, but it's getting better with incremental versions. I didn't have much luck with the CM10 variants I tried, but I might go back and try Quattrimus again.

Looks like my suspicions are confirmed so far, that no JB ROM can touch ICS as far as battery life goes. I have no clue why this is, although I know that 4.2.2 is much better than 4.1. However, as big of an improvement as 4.2.2 is over 4.1, it still doesn't come close to ICS battery life.

Technocian said:
Looks like my suspicions are confirmed so far, that no JB ROM can touch ICS as far as battery life goes. I have no clue why this is, although I know that 4.2.2 is much better than 4.1. However, as big of an improvement as 4.2.2 is over 4.1, it still doesn't come close to ICS battery life.
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Screen off I can get 4.2.2 sleeping like a baby.
It's when the screen is on and data is being transferred that it becomes a bit of a hog.
Even so, I can usually get through a day of use without charging.