It would be nice to have a list of how long batteries last on different rom types for different people. The premise is easy enough, but I would like to mention that I don't want to know, "What ROM is Best". Simply thought it would be nice to know what rom types have better battery life since that is the largest factor in flashing a rom (for me at least).
So, I have flashed multiple roms and have found that AOKP and AOSP have horrible battery lives on GB, but seem to last much longer on ICS and JB.
On the other hand, I see that Sense has great battery lives, but only as far as Sense 1.0.
I would also like to know why it is this way? What is it about GB, ICS, JB, AOSP, AOKP, and Sense that determines battery life.
If everyone that posts would mention what rom TYPE (eg., ICS, AOSP, AOKP, etc.) you are using, your battery life, any tweaks or mods you're using, and if you have an extended battery or not.
Hopefully this brings some clarity as to why our phones act the way they do, and how to improve battery life.
Thanks everyone.
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It would be nice to have a list of how long batteries last on different rom types for different people. The premise is easy enough, but I would like to mention that I don't want to know, "What ROM is Best". Simply thought it would be nice to know what rom types have better battery life since that is the largest factor in flashing a rom (for me at least).
So, I have flashed multiple roms and have found that AOKP and AOSP have horrible battery lives on GB, but seem to last much longer on ICS and JB.
On the other hand, I see that Sense has great battery lives, but only as far as Sense 1.0.
I would also like to know why it is this way? What is it about GB, ICS, JB, AOSP, AOKP, and Sense that determines battery life.
If everyone that posts would mention what rom TYPE (eg., ICS, AOSP, AOKP, etc.) you are using, your battery life, any tweaks or mods you're using, and if you have an extended battery or not.
Hopefully this brings some clarity as to why our phones act the way they do, and how to improve battery life.
Thanks everyone.
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Well.. it depends on the phone too ya know. Like guy 1 might have great batt life on gb soap and guy 2 may not.
But personally, I have great batt life with legendary 1.2. I can go about 15-18 hours with light to moderate usage
Heres a thread I started about batt life.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1817328
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Oh, my bad. Wish our posts could be merged. We both had the same basic idea. I just didn't think about the screenshots. Great minds think alike.
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I just got my droid incredible and I rooted it as soon as I got it. I've tried almost every rom in the "official rom" thread. I can't seem to figure out which one is the best for battery life. Right now I'm on myns 5.2. Any insight would help.
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I was using miui au 1.1.7 and had great battery life. Miui isn't for everyone though. I just installed the latest cm7 gb build so well see
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It really depends on the kernel that is flashed with the ROM as well, in general ROM's that are AOSP tend to have better battery life because all the Sense stuff that syncs constantly can drain your battery, but alot of devs have found ways around this by getting rid of the extra Sense junk.
But IMO switching kernels gives the biggest difference
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it trully is in the kernal and somewhat dependant on the rom.. like dude said.. warm is a badass rom.. i think i'm still using warm rls4, forget which kernal.. but find a decent one and use a cpu tool to setup profiles to control your kernals speed and usage.. with the right settings you can squeez some juice out...
lou's senseless rom with his #4 kernel is awesome
Skyraider 3.5 for sense or I'm having great battery life with cm7 w/ stock launcher (doubt it makes a difference on battery life but might)
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Like others have said, it's mostly about what kernel you are using. Some kernels reduce the amount of voltage the CPU uses to save battery as well as underclocking it when its not in use to save even more battery. I've used Skyraider 3.5 with Incredikernel and it has given me the best battery life, and I've used quite a few different kernels.
If you choose an AOSP ROM (like cyanogenmod) try invisiblek's kernel.
Best battery life to date is my current setup, Senseless Redemptive Revolution with Lou's #6. I can get 24-26 hours with normal usage not watching what I do. Recently, I reinstalled Juice Defender, and as I have always been a skeptic of it, if it is set up correctly, I am seeing a very noticeable increase in battery with no real side effects. FYI.
For Me, it was Cyanogen 6.1 stable and invisbilek's #28 for the kernel, but play around with it and see what works best for you, now that you are rooted, you can add any rom and kernel that you want and find out what works best for you, rembember, everyone's phone and usage are different, what works for me may not be best for you.
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Reason: The reason we close what's referred to as "Best ROM Threads" is because the vast majority of the type end up a nasty flame fest. The reasons should be obvious. It's really a matter of opinion, and then you get the fanboys of certain devs chiming in, and well, you get it. You did nothing wrong (besides posting in the wrong sub-forum). My advice is try a few and make that choice yourself. It's easy to find the most popular ATM, because they stay on page 1 of the dev sub. That doesn't necessarily make it the best, however. Give some a shot and see what's best for you. Good luck.
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Hi. I'm thinking about flashing my first ROM on the Droid Incredible for my wife. She is having terrible battery life with her phone, and I'd like to try and help her out. I really am not looking for much though. My order of prefs are:
Stability > Battery Life > Performance
Mods and tweaks and things of that nature are not really a huge concern for me. I just want everything to work well, and have great battery life. I'd love to hear some suggestions.
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I'm running OVORene Community ROM and my battery last all day with GPS on internet on and 5 apps syncing all day everything on. Super stable I have no problems so far no force closes. Give it a try
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But having sense 3.0 is a closer look too stock incredible and have great battery life
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Nobrainer, the newest leak 2.3.4. Its only sense 1.0, so it would be familiar to her, no lag, no issues at all, and the best battery life for me on any sense rom.
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Nobrainer, the newest leak 2.3.4. Its only sense 1.0, so it would be familiar to her, no lag, no issues at all, and the best battery life for me on any sense rom.
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I'd go this route or something VERY similar to it. Just don't flash the RUU. Try to find a rooted version of the ROM.
As for AOSP, I've flashed about 5 different AOSP ROMs on my dInc and none of them have been what I'd call stable and reliable. I'm NOT a fan of any of the launchers and I do NOT like having to spend days trying to dig through the Market and threads trying to find the stuff to make AOSP do most of what Sense does right out of the box. My girlfriend likes AOSP... and I just can't understand why, but I'm always messing with it trying to figure out why it's restarting, being all herky-jerky, not responding, doing weird things for no reason... And frankly, I don't think the battery life is all that much better on AOSP than Sense.
I don't know what about CM7 or MIUI isn't stable or reliable? What doesn't work on those roms that works on sense roms? IMO, sense is bloated, slow, and outside of social networking (which I couldn't care less about anyway), adds no real functionality when compared to AOSP. Also, AOSP roms are infinitely more customizable than sense. For people that like to mess with their phones and make them their own (which being XDA, I'd think a lot are in this category), there's just simply way more you can do with AOSP, and better kernels too!
Again, some of this is just my opinion, but I fail to see how our AOSP roms can be called unstable or unreliable. It all boils down to personal preference but to say that AOSP is not stable or reliable is simply not a true statement.
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I don't know what about CM7 or MIUI isn't stable or reliable? What doesn't work on those roms that works on sense roms? IMO, sense is bloated, slow, and outside of social networking (which I couldn't care less about anyway), adds no real functionality when compared to AOSP. Also, AOSP roms are infinitely more customizable than sense. For people that like to mess with their phones and make them their own (which being XDA, I'd think a lot are in this category), there's just simply way more you can do with AOSP, and better kernels too!
Again, some of this is just my opinion, but I fail to see how our AOSP roms can be called unstable or unreliable. It all boils down to personal preference but to say that AOSP is not stable or reliable is simply not a true statement.
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Going thru the miui or the cm7 nightly threads lately, it does appear that they also have their fair share of issues. The fact of the matter is, the leaked/rooted ota is very stable, very fast, and has great battery life. It also would have no learning curve for her and she could set up her screens to her liking with whats already familiar to her. Thats why i said no brainer. Aosp is nice, ive ran them all, but it really is just personal preference. Aosp battery can be just as bad if not worse than sense. I also found my self trying to make it look like sense, so now i use sense pretty much all the time. The diffrence between sense and aosp is preference and preference only.
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I definitely wouldn't hesitate to recommend the stock rom for someone that doesn't really mess with their phone that much and needs it to work without issue. I personally like to have a bit more control and feature additions. I mainly posted because it was being stated that AOSP roms were unstable and unreliable, and that's simply not the case. I have recently run CM7 nightlies and MIUI (current rom) without issue. I keep up on new features and bug fixes, and there isn't anything "buggy" about either of these roms. Pretty much the only things you're gonna be missing out on are 720p recording and tv-out functionality, but for me that tradeoff is well worth it considering the other benefits.
I can't really speak on battery life comparatively, because my phone hasn't seen a sense rom for more than a few hours since I got it, but I think the difference is mainly in the kernels. There are simply better options for AOSP (right now at least), the kernels have more battery saving features than what is available for GB sense. I see that they've gotten smartass working on the new GB sense kernel though, so I would think that would help. I imagine a lot of it also has to do with your accounts and sync settings as well, for example, I'd imagine if you had two phones (one on AOSP, one on stock sense) with the same governor settings and sync settings, battery life would be pretty similar.
I would think your probably right on that. I personally have had no issues with aosp roms or any of the new gb roms. I run basic configurations with minimal apps and minimal syncing. I only install 4 apps, so i can get a rom runnin pretty good for what i need.
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Im using the latest OMFGB nightly, no problems, no issues, everything works.
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OP you will be flooded with opinions going in all directions, it depends what you want. Pretty much any ROM here is noticeably faster than stock with better battery.
If you're looking something closer to stock, but faster and with better battery life than I would suggest Skyraider:
http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?t=1314
Agreeing with nivesout, Sense adds some bloat to your phone- but some people just like the UI and don't mind whatever minimal extra lag or battery loss they get from it.
CM7 is a great AOSP ROM and just in general one of the top choices here. If you get this then you should probably download Launcher Pro (from market) instead of using ADW, but it's up to you.
MIUI is more appearance based and offers lots of theming options, however the luancher that comes with it is not as smooth as other launchers (can always be changed like you can do with CM7)
All of these ROM's are stable and well polished.
I would also suggest that you use chad's incredikernel for a custom kernel (saves battery and increases performance) and also flash the latest radio because it's trending that most people get better battery and faster speeds with it.
It seems like people are just reading his op title. Paragraph 2 states mods and themes are not what he is looking for. Its for his wife. If you go thru the new ota threads you will find people stating excellent battery life. The ota's are debloated and can be even more reduced with ti backup. His wife will have no issues with this rom, nor will she have to search market for apps, theme section for themes, install new kernels, yada yada ya.... The leaked, debloated, pre-rooted ota is a perfect solution for what he is looking for. Op, you can pm me if you have questions about which one to install.
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Thanks to all of you who took the time to reply. I appreciate everyone's input.
@donnyp1 Thanks for your suggestion, and if you want to put your recommendation in this thread that would be great or PM works too. What you said is pretty head on, keeping it simple and similar to what she is already used to would be great. Just need to get that battery in check.
The new OTA has given me the best battery life of any ROM I've used. However, HTC's kernel dislikes my car's Bluetooth module, so I'm back on CM7 for maximum compatibility till they or a kernel dev releases one that works with my car.
My vote is on the OTA. Fast, long lasting and very stable. As a second choice I say CM7. Only thing about CM7 is that she would have to spend more time setting it up.
The sense 2.1/3.0 and 3.0 roms still have some bugs and general performance issues without no real boon to battery life. Lockscreen and quick settings sure do rock though.
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I have run all 3, and liberation beta 4 is really working well. I had no issues with any though. I used ti backup to remove the rest of the verizon stuff, it eorks fantastic. Display at 30%, i get great battery life on my phone. I also flashed the newest radio.
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Godsmacked's senseless 2.0 is a great blend of sense and aosp. Battery life is awesome, it flies, and I haven't had a single fc yet.
Maybe I'm wrong but I was always under the impression that Kernel effects battery life not ROM. I have been going between CM7 Nighties and MIUI.US, with their kernel only get 6 to 8 hours. But if I use incredikernel with incredicontrol I get between 18-27 hours depending on use. Incredicontrol enables fast charge and sound boost, also allows you to set min and max volts. I'm undervolted min 750 and stable with CM7 Nightly 173. I loved Nils' Business GingerSense 3.0 but I personally decided I can't live without incredikernel, so I will wait until he releases a gingersense kernel.
http://www.incredikernel.com/
I have not tried but there are mod's for Gingersense for better battery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216306
For choices on ROM's best to go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969371
I've been running MIUI for about a week now and I can't believe how great the battery life has been.
I personally have been using gingerbread-inc-deck with chads incredikernel as my daily for over a month now. It's stable and I've had great battery life. I've tested a few sense 3.0 roms, but the battery just doesnt seem to last as long for me.
Hi all.
I have started this thread for all users. And mainly newbies.
Now when i say newbies i dont mean anything bad, in a way i mran people eho are new to the nexus and are overwhelmed by all these great roms and devs. (Max respect to all you great devs)
If you are hoping that i will say....this rom is the best......or that rom is the best, you will not find that here...
I am what they would say a "crack flasher" and have flash most of the gsm roms (not all, so devs if i dont mention your rom its because ive had no experiance with it) anyone feel free to post there opinions.
Right lets start.
I am splitting these up in to groups.
Customization (obvious customize hell outa it...not as good battery.
Balanced. Fair customization fair battery.
Stock (ish) pretty much stock less customization. Good battery.
Stock. As close to stock as possible great battery.
I set it it out like this as its my opinion.
Right then, lets really begin this time.
From, the top.
Customization
You have aokp, liquid smooth and black ice, i repeat there may be more that i have not tried.
These 3 roms will give you as much customization as the devs can think of and cram them in there. I find that these have the worst battery. (That does not mean terrible, but just compared to others.
Balanced.
Cyanogen mod 9, eagles blood, gummy. These roms give an average user a good bit of customization and pretty good battery.
Stock (ish) only one i have experianced is bugless beast. I hate stock rom for one reason, wich is no wifi toggles etc. Bugless beast will gives me the feel of stock (wich i love) but with those features.
Toggles aren't the only feature but its what stands out to me most. Also offers great battery life.
Stock
Android revolution hd
This is a great rom for the people who want completely stock but better performance than stock.
Offers really great battery life.
There is one section i missed out as i didnt know what to call the section. The rom that belongs in this unknown section is........BAMF
i have had little experiance with this rom but my opinion is....
This is a unique rom. Well thought out. It dosent look like most of the others. Its set out diferant and offers good customization and pretty decent battery life.
And thats all, i know there are other roms i have missed out but i want to list the ones i have experianced personally.
Please no haters as i have put a lot of effort into this post.
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So I am thinking that JB Roms are still in development and won't have good battery. Is there any good battery roms on ICS?
Also are there any gingerbread roms?
You would be thinking right seeing as jb just came out. Just search and see what people are commenting on, battery wise
DO YOU JELLY?
Can i have a ICS rom and a JB rom running on Boot Manager or do they have to be the same?
I also want to know the answer to this question.
There is no best battery ROM. each ROM behave differently. they will give good battery for some, and bad for others.
what do you reccomend?
It's really less about the ROM, and more about the kernel you use...whether you undervolt or underclock or not, how you set up your apps, and how you use your phone. I'm using mROM at the moment, with Franco's kernel, undervolted. I just swapped kernels today, so I can't speak to the battery life just yet.
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+1 on the kernel being important for battery life.
I chose AOKP for its high customization. Lots of ROMs are as smooth, or even maybe a little smoother than AOKP, but many are just way too bare bones for me. I find AOKP to be the best package for my style, allows for nav bar control, notification control and toggles for phone features in the notication tray and many many more things. Plus, on the market there are many AOKP theme apps like Kiwi Cobalt or Purple Kush that make your phone look saaaa-weeeeeet.
And I always run Trinity kernels on my Nexus for battery life. Not sure why, but they seem to give my phone the best life. I haven't had luck with franco or other kernels in that aspect. But every phone and setup is different.
The combo I am running is the best I have found for a perfect balance between great speed and really good battery life on my phone.
Just remember to do backups. :good: The most important thing I can recommend, especially if new to flashing/custom-ing like myself.
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So I am thinking that JB Roms are still in development and won't have good battery. Is there any good battery roms on ICS?
Also are there any gingerbread roms?
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I have NEVER tried this Rom.
But the Redemption Rom is supposed to be fast and have amazing battery life.
The catch is ZERO features. Just Stock. But that is why it's so fast apparently and have amazing battery.
Maybe u get to the Softkeys bar, I dunno.
Jellybean ROMs are smashing ICS in terms of battery life on the Nexus, and I think it may be a result of better RAM management. If you're just not ready to take the plunge on JB (source based ROMs are out now btw), and want a mix of customization, and battery life, CM9 may be the way to go. As for Gingerbread... hmmm... I doubt there are any ROMs available for the Nexus, and it sounds like a harsh, Benjamin Button type thing to do to such a great phone, lol.
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Here's my take on what really effects battery life:
As long as you have a ROM that doesn't malfunction and keep the phone active when it shouldn't be, all ROMs should get around the same battery life. If they don't, it's probably because you don't know about the difference in their settings - one might simply be using a more aggressive CPU governor. Even if you have a ROM that does absolutely nothing as much as possible, you are the cause of battery drain. I've tried all sorts of ROMs, and in the end, I'm the one causing battery drain. Whether it be me being sloppy and accidentally allowing too many background settings for apps, or me using more battery intensive features, I'm the one draining the battery in the end. From my experience, Stock, Liquid ICS, CM9, AOKP, Jelly Bean, Jelly Bean AOSP, any kernel you want to try, the user has the most affect on the battery life. Try adjusting your habits to improve battery life. I'm a heavy, heavy user (Sometimes with unlimited amperage from a 2.1amp charger, my phone still will die while charging.) I'm also in the Army, and when I know I will be in the field without power for extended periods of time, I change how I interact with my phone. Maybe don't overclock, even underclock/undervolt, use a more strict governor, even disable a CPU core, change Android settings to not allow ANY background apps, always turn off 4G and syncing, of course turn off BT and WiFi when not needed. I change from a user who can barely make it through the day to a user that can make it almost two. If you want something to give you better battery life without changing your habits, go buy a bigger battery or a newer phone.
Trinity 307 kernel all the way!!! Add in its conservative governor option and your conserving a lot of battery. Not to mention the kernel runs at a very low temp so your device will last well beyond the end of your 2yr contract plus it comes with a stock color mod thing that makes your gnex look amazing IMO.
I have found that out of all the ROM's Ive tried, even the latest JB ones, that the ones with the best battery life and stability were Blazer and Calks 3.0. Those of which are on Gingerbread. So, am I the only one that thinks or agrees to this? I might not be "up to date" but my performance is damn good! =)
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What little extra battery life I'm not getting on FK23 & FL16 compared to GB is not worth all the extra goodies I would have to live without. For me GB is boring and the tradeoff is more than worth it.
Have you tried both the TW JB and the AOSP JB roms?
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I have found that out of all the ROM's Ive tried, even the latest JB ones, that the ones with the best battery life and stability were Blazer and Calks 3.0. Those of which are on Gingerbread. So, am I the only one that thinks or agrees to this? I might not be "up to date" but my performance is damn good! =)
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Haha, you're not the only one. After DD'ing Jellybean leaks for the past 25 days, I flashed back to my Calkulin nandroid backup for its awesome battery life. . I got the best Jellybean battery life on fl16 (3 hrs 45 mins) but it can't compare to the ~6 hrs on calkulin. I'm just gonna wait now for the ota Jellybean + source before I try it again.
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I have found that out of all the ROM's Ive tried, even the latest JB ones, that the ones with the best battery life and stability were Blazer and Calks 3.0. Those of which are on Gingerbread. So, am I the only one that thinks or agrees to this? I might not be "up to date" but my performance is damn good! =)
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Probably not the 'only' one. But in these parts XDA Developers you will certainly be in the minority.
By it's very nature these forums are for those looking for the latest greatest and bleeding edge technologies and tweaks.
The latest JB builds are awesome. Good battery, hotspot working natively (so far). Stable. Google Now natively. More responsiveness. Nicer looking and more customizable. I get about 14+ hours with fairyly heavy usage - my cell is my phone for work and home.
Yes these forums do provide some great stuff for the 'regular joe' but that's not what the forums are here for. We try to work together to get the most out of the devices as possible. That usually means functionalily and features 1st, performance 2nd and battery 3rd. I do know that there are some devs who may change those orders but that is usually the case.
I have always been amused by the 'how long does your battery last' crowd. While I think any phone should last at least a day with a good battery and reasonable usage I think it's silly to 'demand' more. It's 2012 get another battery (or external battery for emergencies) for backup, grab more chargers - I have one in all cars, home office work office and laptop bags.
Just my two cents.
Have you tried replacing your battery ? I just bought 2 new ones from Anker and my phone is getting better battery life and I'm running FL16 JB. I am delighted with the purchase and wish I had done it sooner. Here's link and read up on them as well.
Anker battery for D710
Good luck
Personally I use CM10 on my phone, but on my mate's phone, it's running Blazer's 4.1 GB sheerly because of the WiMax speeds. If I didn't love flashing the latest and greatest, I would've stuck with GB too.
From my experience, nothing beats calkulin's 2.8.1. I wanted to like more current roms, but even with underclocking, ics and jb chug the battery. People can ask or claim that your battery is bad. If the battery is bad then why can I get about double the battery life out of calkulin when compared to more recent roms? Same battery, twice the run time, practically no lag or noticeable performance hit. I was halfway through my second extended life battery during a normal shift at work with ics and jb when going home when I'd be around 20% with calkulin gb on the first battery. I'm not saying everyone else is wrong in their preferences, but to me, battery efficiency without noticeable CPU hit means everything. Other builds seem sluggish and battery hogs to me. Don't get me wrong, there's some cool features with new builds but the trade off of battery isn't worth it to me. It's a damned shame calkulin moved onto other pastures. He definitely knew his $hit when it came to tweaking rooms and I like his choices he took in his earlier builds with this phone.
I think if calkulin and bugless beast Pete got together, their rom would be damned near bulletproof. Peter Alfonzo.
Pacman ROM has amazing battery life for being JB. Plenty of customization tweaks as well, I used to only rock blazer 4.1 as well but some of my apps got updated and now require to be on ICS or JB based ROM.
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try another kernel on JB...may be its make ur battery life to be good...
You must have amazing battery life cuz fk23 has matched el29 battery wise and has better signal for me anyway
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Usually around 40 to 50%
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Ics
JB
i keep auto sync on too
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