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If one of us happens to get the update, and want to keep root....what do you want us to do with the update?
Don't install it. I'm not sure how to do that with an Android device.
However if it does get installed you will lose root. It could also cause some problems if it gets pushed to your phone.
The devs will have a rooted version of the rom before they will have a root method for the rom.
I think it is safe to say, if you want to keep Root, ignore the update prompt, and wait for the developers here to make rooted versions of the ROM.
The original firmware was rooted before the phone came out. (I don't know how long it took developers to actually Root the phone, since I don't know how long they had the developers release in their hands).
When the 1.47 OTA came out, it broke root, and became a mad scramble to try to re-root the phone. If I remember right, it took a couple weeks to find the workaround that would allow root.
It is a good bet that the new release WILL break root again, and there is no telling how long it will be before it can be rooted again, if ever.
is this a serious question? most updates will remove all hacked/homebrew stuff been hapning since the begining of time.......(i.e. PSP, Nintendo Wii, iPhone/touch......)just dont update...take this stuff to yahoo answers.
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If one of us happens to get the update, and want to keep root....what do you want us to do with the update?
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Update lose root. Period. Just wait.
ohh geez, be prepared for all of the topics like "just updated to sprints official froyo update and lost root can i root it back?" my gawd its gonna get annoying
i guess this is a noob question, but how long does it take to get a rooted stock rome of this 2.2? i would assume not too long correct?
usually same day.. its all about patience which there is little of.. i can guarantee you will have a stock rooted rom by this weeks end
What's the best way to get rooted. I've tried te avalauncher way, they tell me I have to be rooted to use it. I've tried the simple root OTA, but when it's suppose to take you to factory restore, my phone goes to a backup/restore screen, so it fails cause I can't restore it. Please give me assistance.
I am running 2.2 from a manual install. No root.
You have to wait until the guys here find a way for p eople to root once they have 2.2 . That could take anywhere from a few days to a few weeks
Most likely you are NOT going to be able to root since you ran the OTA update for 2.2....
That is why you should read what you are flashing and know the consequences prior to doing so. Every thread that contained the download for the 2.2 leak said that it will make you lose root and the ability ( for now ) to gain root status.
You need to wait until one of the geniuses figure out a way to do it.
Sorry about your luck.
The best way is toast method...
Good luck!
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The best way is toast method...you can email me if you have any problems [email protected]
Good luck!
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Not gonna work since he used the 2.2 update man.
EVOme said:
What's the best way to get rooted. I've tried te avalauncher way, they tell me I have to be rooted to use it. I've tried the simple root OTA, but when it's suppose to take you to factory restore, my phone goes to a backup/restore screen, so it fails cause I can't restore it. Please give me assistance.
I am running 2.2 from a manual install. No root.
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1. wrong forum, should be in Q&A
2. if you did the manual update from Sprint, you will have to wait until the devs here create a root method for stock 2.2 is developed. Any existing root method will not work at all.
EVOme said:
What's the best way to get rooted. I've tried te avalauncher way, they tell me I have to be rooted to use it. I've tried the simple root OTA, but when it's suppose to take you to factory restore, my phone goes to a backup/restore screen, so it fails cause I can't restore it. Please give me assistance.
I am running 2.2 from a manual install. No root.
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You installed the plain OTA update? The one that says "not rooted yet" on the thread title?
For each new update, HTC tries to protect its software from being rooted. The last update required users to exploit a Flash Lite vulnerability and took a while. You will probably have to wait a long time before you can root this, since it doesn't have Flash Lite.
For future reference, root first THEN update to a rooted rom released by our devs. You can't just install Ava's rom on top of stock 2.2, it prevents you from doing so.
I'm sorry but HOW MANY posts were there saying if you want to keep root, DO NOT INSTALL THE UPDATE?? Ugh...
And yes I know this isn't constructive but sometimes people just need a slap on the back if the head.
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I'm in the same boat. After trying hard to resist the urge, I gave in and installed the leak. After finding the rooted version, I tried to use the 1.47 RUU to go back but it error-ed out. I'm so bummed I can't go back. Oh well; I knew the risk I was taking though so I guess I have to live with it...
Hours my my day wasted....HOURS!!!
Where's my AR-15
Wow, just wow.
I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?
Here we go again
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I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?
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By digging thru it and finding an exploit.
Which will most likely happen for the 2.2 update as well, just not as of yet.
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I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?
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With a ROM, you can run through the zip file and essentially take out the parts that would remove root and modify as you see fit to put on an already rooted device -- the device isn't running all the security checks on the ROM, since it's already been rooted to remove those. Much easier, almost trivial.
If you have a non-rooted device, though, you have to find a way to get the device, not the ROM, rooted. The device isn't going to take an unofficial ROM. Big difference, since you have to exploit something already on the device somehow. With the last OTA update, it was Flash Lite that could be exploited for root access to the device. With this one, no one has found a method to root the device once the OTA has been applied (and probably won't really try that hard until the official version is released, in case it closes any exploits that are in the version floating around now).
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With a ROM, you can run through the zip file and essentially take out the parts that would remove root and modify as you see fit to put on an already rooted device -- the device isn't running all the security checks on the ROM, since it's already been rooted to remove those. Much easier, almost trivial.
If you have a non-rooted device, though, you have to find a way to get the device, not the ROM, rooted. The device isn't going to take an unofficial ROM. Big difference, since you have to exploit something already on the device somehow. With the last OTA update, it was Flash Lite that could be exploited for root access to the device. With this one, no one has found a method to root the device once the OTA has been applied (and probably won't really try that hard until the official version is released, in case it closes any exploits that are in the version floating around now).
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Beat me to it and said it better.
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I'm in the same boat. After trying hard to resist the urge, I gave in and installed the leak. After finding the rooted version, I tried to use the 1.47 RUU to go back but it error-ed out. I'm so bummed I can't go back. Oh well; I knew the risk I was taking though so I guess I have to live with it...
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I have no idea how it was "hard to resist" when AVA's rooted version showed up at 5:30pm and netarchy's showed up around 9pm. They showed up before any official sprint OTA. Lets also not forget the hundreds of posts warning people that this would happen.
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The "rooting method" allows you to get into restricted areas of the phone to install stuff. The act of rooting is breaking into the phone itself, not into the rom. The rom itself is fully accessable and can be hacked up, its just getting it onto the phone is the hard part.
Essentially your phone, stock, is a box that's locked from the inside. For older versions people figured out how to unlock it, so that you can put any hacked up rom onto it. The new OTA, no one knows how to get in yet.
Don't know if that makes sense. It's pretty easy to understand if you understand OS permissions.
EDIT: what the other guy said.
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I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?
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Because someone takes the CONTENT of the update, and applies it piece-by-piece to an already rooted image, ignoring the bits that replace HBOOT and etc.
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I have no idea how it was "hard to resist" when AVA's rooted version showed up at 5:30pm and netarchy's showed up around 9pm. .
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I'll tell you why. The thread gets to 200 pages. There are people saying it works, sucks, bricks, awesome, hate it, stay away, success, etc. After reading 40 pages of it you have no idea up from down. Speaking from someone that is not familiar with Android rooting. It's frustrating. Then you go to one of the other 50 threads and it's all the same.
I never saw anywhere that if I installed the leak i'd be screwed. I'm fine with that though. I have 2.2 and can wait. Just annoyed i've spent hours of my day on this.
This thread was a funny read.
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[Q] How to Root Evo 3.26.651.3
Hi,
I'm stuck on the leaked Froyo update, had tried simple root and unrevoked and not luck, does anybody knows how to root HTC EVo 4G Froyo 2.2
software version 3.26.651.3 (beginer here)
Not possible on that version yet.
for now their is nothing you can do untill either HTC sends an OTA update to allow you to get the newest OTS Update or untill someone figures out a new root method for 2.2
God forbid a question go in the Q&A Forum.
Maybe you can flash a stock previous OTA (the 1.76 one) then try simple root? Maybe you can install 2.2 rooted after that?
There is another forum post that says you can go to the sprint store and they will downgrade you to 1.47 as long as you have .3. I am going to go try to do this today and then try to root after.
Is there enough demand for someone to develop a root for the new Froyo on the Evo?
I wonder if everyone who wanted to be rooted did not update on the OTA Froyo.
I did not see any reason to root when it seemed that all the roms had issues before the update.
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Is there enough demand for someone to develop a root for the new Froyo on the Evo?
I wonder if everyone who wanted to be rooted did not update on the OTA Froyo.
I did not see any reason to root when it seemed that all the roms had issues before the update.
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It is not a question on will there be people trying to do this. I am sure a lot of the devs are. The question is will they be able to find an exploit to be able to.
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It is not a question on will there be people trying to do this. I am sure a lot of the devs are. The question is will they be able to find an exploit to be able to.
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There just does not seem to be any urgency to root Froyo. I see not mention in any of the forums I monitor.
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Is there enough demand for someone to develop a root for the new Froyo on the Evo?
I wonder if everyone who wanted to be rooted did not update on the OTA Froyo.
I did not see any reason to root when it seemed that all the roms had issues before the update.
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????????????????????? uh What?
Q - Is there enough demand for someone to develop a root for the new Froyo on the Evo?
A - Of Course... really doesn't even need to be asked
Q - I wonder if everyone who wanted to be rooted did not update on the OTA Froyo.
A - Everyone that wanted to be rooted, were rooted, and probably upgraded to the rooted .3 pre-release and then upgraded to the rooted .6 final release
Q - I did not see any reason to root when it seemed that all the roms had issues before the update
A- What? You can root without flashing a rom... Why? Many reasons of which one is to be able to tether without paying Sprint a stupid fee for using the wifi router which doesn't need a custom rom.
But I don't quite know what you mean by "all" the roms had problems.... Simply not true, Most of the roms are and have been nothing more than stock roms with root access, with Sprint crap removed or mabey small changes in icons, lock screens, or rosies. The only time people start having issues in when you get into overclocking and changing kernels for reasons like higher fps's or 5 point multitouch. I have been running 2.1 roms with nothing broken or not working and 2.2 roms (.3 and .6) with everything working fine(4g, wifi tether, fps fix, overclocked, 5 point multitouch, etc)
The only people at this point that are waiting for a 2.2 root are the people that were too stupid impatient to wait 2 hrs before the .3 was rooted and reverted to stock to flash the pre-release 2.2 or people that updated first before realizing how much nicer it is to have a rooted phone.
Everyday new EVO owners are bringing there new phones home by the thousands and getting online trying to see how they can get root. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find out that the devs here have found a way to root a new 2.2 EVO before you even read this.
The Unrevoked team is working on it, but they don't have real root in the first place.
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????????????????????? uh What?
Q - Is there enough demand for someone to develop a root for the new Froyo on the Evo?
A - Of Course... really doesn't even need to be asked
Q - I wonder if everyone who wanted to be rooted did not update on the OTA Froyo.
A - Everyone that wanted to be rooted, were rooted, and probably upgraded to the rooted .3 pre-release and then upgraded to the rooted .6 final release
Q - I did not see any reason to root when it seemed that all the roms had issues before the update
A- What? You can root without flashing a rom... Why? Many reasons of which one is to be able to tether without paying Sprint a stupid fee for using the wifi router which doesn't need a custom rom.
But I don't quite know what you mean by "all" the roms had problems.... Simply not true.........
.....Everyday new EVO owners are bringing there new phones home by the thousands and getting online trying to see how they can get root. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find out that the devs here have found a way to root a new 2.2 EVO before you even read this.
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+1 Exactly
Its only been out for 5 days calm down. Im pretty sure the devs chat with each other through im and what not. as well i rather see them working on a root process then posting on here. if you want root then you should of not updated if you had no choice because you got the phone after the 31st - 1st then your sol right now
Two wrongs don't make a right....
OP....be patient young grasshopper....
Don't see no reason why not. It's an open source OS it's only a matter of time for a dev to find a way. Let's just hope for all of your guys that are not rooted or decided to un root to get 2.2, it's sooner rather than later.
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I am willing to test it when it come out. It's only a phone.
I noticed something interesting when I stopped by the Sprint store yesterday.
There was an older gentleman there purchasing an Evo. I felt a little sad because I knew that poor phone would never get hax'd. The manager instructed the sales person to charge the phone and make sure to run the update after activation.
My guess is that the majority of Evos from this point on will come with Froyo, so I'm sure there will be an effort to root.
I would like to see a one step method to root that has a hundred pages of "Thank You" rather that the hundred pages of problems and explanations I see now.
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I would like to see a one step method to root that has a hundred pages of "Thank You" rather that the hundred pages of problems and explanations I see now.
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then do it yourself.
Did it work? Did they downgrade you?
Hey guys!
I just recently gotten T-mobile's G2! I already got it unlocked by paying $8 to get the unlock code .
Soo, I have been doing a lot of reading regarding rooting, perm and temp, android , etc! I was a iphone 3GS user, so I don't have that much experience or any at all with android.
What is OTA? Does it mean "over the air" update?!
I am interested in rooting my g2. I checked the wiki out. However, there are couple of things I am not sure of.
First of all, what does stock rom mean? Is it like the original android 2.2 (fyro)? that is unmodified by T-mobile and other such carriers?
Did my G2 come with stock rom? or came with T-mobile's stock rom?
Also, I did update my G2 via "OTA" i suppose. How do I know I have the latest OTA? I am really confused about this part. I have checked various threads about it, but they were not able to clarify it for me.
Any links that would explain it, would greatly help me!
thank you guys & gals for help and replying !
Just asked this question
1. http://theunlockr.com/2010/10/20/how-to-root-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision-visionary-method/
2. http://theunlockr.com/2010/11/30/how-to-gain-permanent-root-and-s-off-on-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision/
3. (Optional Custom ROM) http://theunlockr.com/2010/11/30/how-to-load-a-custom-rom-on-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision/
Watch the videos most helpful. Also OTA is over the air update that for offical updates t-mobile pushes out.
You know you've got the latest OTA when no more show up
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Haha that makes me laugh every time I see it
There's a lot of great reasons to root, but a lot of great reasons also to stay with stock (like warranty). You DON'T need root to use an unlocked handset with another carrier. Just the APNs for that carrier (see Android manual for how to add one).
So, that said, the XDA wiki under HTC Vision has a lot of great info on rooting and SuperCID and custom ROMs, as does Cyanogen's site.
Stock ROM basically means "official" or "pre-loaded" ROM -- the one that the phone came with.
But before you begin anything I strongly encourage you to Google what "root" means on Linux and what it allows you to do, and ask yourself if you really need root before you start trying to get it on your G2. If you're not a hacker and just plan on using apps from the market you probably don't need it anyway. But I'll leave that decision up to you.
Thank you for all your insightful replies!
Yes, I have read regarding rooting and linux . I am sort of an hacker , since I've worked on iphone stuff.
Thanks for the links. I will have a look at them! I appreciate all your efforts.
Ok you need to set up an androidsdk environment. You need jdk for it to work. And while not necessary putting the tools directory for the sdk in the path definitely saves a lot of typing copying and pasting.
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I just recently gotten T-mobile's G2!
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Congratulations!
I already got it unlocked by paying $8 to get the unlock code .
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$8 isn't too but but you didn't need to spend that, the recommended method for obtaining root has an (optional) side effect of unlocking the phone. You will see this referred to as the "gfree" method.
What is OTA? Does it mean "over the air" update?!
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Yes OTA means "Over The Air" when your carrier sends an update for your phone over the cellular airwaves it's an OTA update. These updates are official an only designed for the stock ROM.
First of all, what does stock rom mean? Is it like the original android 2.2 (fyro)? that is unmodified by T-mobile and other such carriers?
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A "Stock ROM" is simply the ROM that came installed on your phone, any phones updated by an OTA update could also be considered to be running a stock ROM. Generally it refers to the OS version your carrier and manufacturer want/expect you to have. This is opposed to a "Custom ROM" which is a customized version of Android, there are a number of different custom ROMs for the G2 each with their own features and capabilities.
Did my G2 come with stock rom? or came with T-mobile's stock rom?
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Every phone comes with a stock ROM, by definition.
Also, I did update my G2 via "OTA" i suppose. How do I know I have the latest OTA? I am really confused about this part. I have checked various threads about it, but they were not able to clarify it for me.
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When a new OTA update is released, it takes a little while for the update to reach all the devices. There hasn't been a new OTA for the G2 in a while and AFAIK there has only been one so far. I would expect that if you just got your phone you would have received an OTA update within a day or two, and now would be up to date. As long as you are running a stock ROM you will receive new OTAs as they are released, if you root your phone but maintain the stock ROM (the state my own G2 is in right now) you would generally want to avoid installing any OTA because the update could cause you to lose root without the ability to get it back (if the OTA fixes the security hole that allowed root to be obtained)
Regarding temp vs permanent root. When the G2 first came out people had a hard time obtaining root, They first obtained "temp root" which persisted until the phone was rebooted. With a temp root any changes you make will be gone the next time you reboot your phone, because security settings of the phone prevent those changes from actually being committed to the phone. For example if you temp root your phone and remove the built in PhotoBucket application you will see that the app is back when you reboot next. Eventually they discovered how to obtain "permanent root" which will allow you to keep your root access across reboots and allows you to make permanent changes to your phone. An essential part of permanent root is defeating the security settings that prevent permanent changes to the phones memory. It should be noted that you first need to get temp root before you can get permanent root.
Just regarding the gfree method.... it does work quite well. But it did introduce a few unexpected quirks to my G2. I went back to all stock configs and decided I didn't need root so badly afterall. But it was nice to know how easy it was to do such a thing on a phone considered at one time to be unrootable.
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I just got my 2nd Note 2 after exchanging before 14 days was up for a better price. I rooted my 1st and had no issues Was using Jelly Bomb. My question is does it matter whether or not you update before you root. I've seen a few forums people were having issues when flashing certain ROMS after the update. Just wanted to know if its better to stay on the original update and root or update and root after. Advantages or disadvantages? I used a all in 1 toolkit before.
Thanks
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I just got my 2nd Note 2 after exchanging before 14 days was up for a better price. I rooted my 1st and had no issues Was using Jelly Bomb. My question is does it matter whether or not you update before you root. I've seen a few forums people were having issues when flashing certain ROMS after the update. Just wanted to know if its better to stay on the original update and root or update and root after. Advantages or disadvantages? I used a all in 1 toolkit before.
Thanks
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if you are just rooting without changing roms you should wait for the update then root but if you are going to change roms then it does not matter as the android version will be depending on the rom you will be using.
on the other hand if you can't wait to root then root away then unroot when an update is released and then root again, technically this should work but lets wait for the guru's say .
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if you are just rooting without changing roms you should wait for the update then root but if you are going to change roms then it does not matter as the android version will be depending on the rom you will be using.
on the other hand if you can't wait to root then root away then unroot when an update is released and then root again, technically this should work but lets wait for the guru's say .
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Thanks for the advice. I did notice how easy it was to root and unroot when I had to take my phone back. I just wasnt sure if people had been having issues on LK8 or whatever I keep seeing all over the forum or what the difference. I think I'll wait to update and will just root as is since I didnt have much trouble on the older firmware before
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Thanks for the advice. I did notice how easy it was to root and unroot when I had to take my phone back. I just wasnt sure if people had been having issues on LK8 or whatever I keep seeing all over the forum or what the difference. I think I'll wait to update and will just root as is since I didnt have much trouble on the older firmware before
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I would stay on ljc and wait for an official update of lk8. I updated and it worked fine until I wanted to go back to an ljc rom. Thanks to garwynn and his brilliance I can now go back to ljc roms without the chameleon error.