What's the best way to get rooted. I've tried te avalauncher way, they tell me I have to be rooted to use it. I've tried the simple root OTA, but when it's suppose to take you to factory restore, my phone goes to a backup/restore screen, so it fails cause I can't restore it. Please give me assistance.
I am running 2.2 from a manual install. No root.
You have to wait until the guys here find a way for p eople to root once they have 2.2 . That could take anywhere from a few days to a few weeks
Most likely you are NOT going to be able to root since you ran the OTA update for 2.2....
That is why you should read what you are flashing and know the consequences prior to doing so. Every thread that contained the download for the 2.2 leak said that it will make you lose root and the ability ( for now ) to gain root status.
You need to wait until one of the geniuses figure out a way to do it.
Sorry about your luck.
The best way is toast method...
Good luck!
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UND3RTAK3R said:
The best way is toast method...you can email me if you have any problems [email protected]
Good luck!
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Not gonna work since he used the 2.2 update man.
EVOme said:
What's the best way to get rooted. I've tried te avalauncher way, they tell me I have to be rooted to use it. I've tried the simple root OTA, but when it's suppose to take you to factory restore, my phone goes to a backup/restore screen, so it fails cause I can't restore it. Please give me assistance.
I am running 2.2 from a manual install. No root.
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1. wrong forum, should be in Q&A
2. if you did the manual update from Sprint, you will have to wait until the devs here create a root method for stock 2.2 is developed. Any existing root method will not work at all.
EVOme said:
What's the best way to get rooted. I've tried te avalauncher way, they tell me I have to be rooted to use it. I've tried the simple root OTA, but when it's suppose to take you to factory restore, my phone goes to a backup/restore screen, so it fails cause I can't restore it. Please give me assistance.
I am running 2.2 from a manual install. No root.
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You installed the plain OTA update? The one that says "not rooted yet" on the thread title?
For each new update, HTC tries to protect its software from being rooted. The last update required users to exploit a Flash Lite vulnerability and took a while. You will probably have to wait a long time before you can root this, since it doesn't have Flash Lite.
For future reference, root first THEN update to a rooted rom released by our devs. You can't just install Ava's rom on top of stock 2.2, it prevents you from doing so.
I'm sorry but HOW MANY posts were there saying if you want to keep root, DO NOT INSTALL THE UPDATE?? Ugh...
And yes I know this isn't constructive but sometimes people just need a slap on the back if the head.
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I'm in the same boat. After trying hard to resist the urge, I gave in and installed the leak. After finding the rooted version, I tried to use the 1.47 RUU to go back but it error-ed out. I'm so bummed I can't go back. Oh well; I knew the risk I was taking though so I guess I have to live with it...
Hours my my day wasted....HOURS!!!
Where's my AR-15
Wow, just wow.
I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?
Here we go again
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I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?
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By digging thru it and finding an exploit.
Which will most likely happen for the 2.2 update as well, just not as of yet.
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I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?
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With a ROM, you can run through the zip file and essentially take out the parts that would remove root and modify as you see fit to put on an already rooted device -- the device isn't running all the security checks on the ROM, since it's already been rooted to remove those. Much easier, almost trivial.
If you have a non-rooted device, though, you have to find a way to get the device, not the ROM, rooted. The device isn't going to take an unofficial ROM. Big difference, since you have to exploit something already on the device somehow. With the last OTA update, it was Flash Lite that could be exploited for root access to the device. With this one, no one has found a method to root the device once the OTA has been applied (and probably won't really try that hard until the official version is released, in case it closes any exploits that are in the version floating around now).
xeno314 said:
With a ROM, you can run through the zip file and essentially take out the parts that would remove root and modify as you see fit to put on an already rooted device -- the device isn't running all the security checks on the ROM, since it's already been rooted to remove those. Much easier, almost trivial.
If you have a non-rooted device, though, you have to find a way to get the device, not the ROM, rooted. The device isn't going to take an unofficial ROM. Big difference, since you have to exploit something already on the device somehow. With the last OTA update, it was Flash Lite that could be exploited for root access to the device. With this one, no one has found a method to root the device once the OTA has been applied (and probably won't really try that hard until the official version is released, in case it closes any exploits that are in the version floating around now).
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Beat me to it and said it better.
bludragon742 said:
I'm in the same boat. After trying hard to resist the urge, I gave in and installed the leak. After finding the rooted version, I tried to use the 1.47 RUU to go back but it error-ed out. I'm so bummed I can't go back. Oh well; I knew the risk I was taking though so I guess I have to live with it...
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I have no idea how it was "hard to resist" when AVA's rooted version showed up at 5:30pm and netarchy's showed up around 9pm. They showed up before any official sprint OTA. Lets also not forget the hundreds of posts warning people that this would happen.
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I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?
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The "rooting method" allows you to get into restricted areas of the phone to install stuff. The act of rooting is breaking into the phone itself, not into the rom. The rom itself is fully accessable and can be hacked up, its just getting it onto the phone is the hard part.
Essentially your phone, stock, is a box that's locked from the inside. For older versions people figured out how to unlock it, so that you can put any hacked up rom onto it. The new OTA, no one knows how to get in yet.
Don't know if that makes sense. It's pretty easy to understand if you understand OS permissions.
EDIT: what the other guy said.
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I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?
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Because someone takes the CONTENT of the update, and applies it piece-by-piece to an already rooted image, ignoring the bits that replace HBOOT and etc.
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I have no idea how it was "hard to resist" when AVA's rooted version showed up at 5:30pm and netarchy's showed up around 9pm. .
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I'll tell you why. The thread gets to 200 pages. There are people saying it works, sucks, bricks, awesome, hate it, stay away, success, etc. After reading 40 pages of it you have no idea up from down. Speaking from someone that is not familiar with Android rooting. It's frustrating. Then you go to one of the other 50 threads and it's all the same.
I never saw anywhere that if I installed the leak i'd be screwed. I'm fine with that though. I have 2.2 and can wait. Just annoyed i've spent hours of my day on this.
This thread was a funny read.
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I've been using my EVO for a while, and I did OTA to Froyo last night. I would like to try root it after a while, just want to know if there were anyone starting to work on the way for the EVO after Froyo upgrade?
Or, for non-rooted evo, can i do downgrade to old version official ROM, then root it?
JvIo55iBl3r said:
I've been using my EVO for a while, and I did OTA to Froyo last night. I would like to try root it after a while, just want to know if there were anyone starting to work on the way for the EVO after Froyo upgrade?
Or, for non-rooted evo, can i do downgrade to old version official ROM, then root it?
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Not possible yet...if you were previously rooted and updated to OTA im sure you knew what you were doing and the consiquences because its all over the forums...for now you're just going to have to wait it out....no word on root-able 2.2 yet.
I know unrevoked is working on a root but unless it has full nand unlock I wouldn't use it.
Well will be happy when someone does I want a stock rooted 2.2. Now im also wondering if there is a new way we have to root. Seems like everytime we get an update they have to come up with a new way to root. I have looked and read almost everything. Was wondering if someone can help a little. Sorry for hi-jacking OP.
mebo73 said:
Well will be happy when someone does I want a stock rooted 2.2. Now im also wondering if there is a new way we have to root. Seems like everytime we get an update they have to come up with a new way to root. I have looked and read almost everything. Was wondering if someone can help a little. Sorry for hi-jacking OP.
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almost every update they will fix the current way we root. there already is and has been a stock 2.2 rooted in development forums. Before you can use it you have to be rooted however and if you are already on stock 2.2 that could be a while for them to find a way to exploit a bug to let you root again.
OK was making sure that rooted stock was good. Also i thought there wasnt a way to root yet from a 2.2, just making sure. Thanks!
mebo73 said:
OK was making sure that rooted stock was good. Also i thought there wasnt a way to root yet from a 2.2, just making sure. Thanks!
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You are right.. If you have 2.2 unrooted on your phone you cannot root it at this time. However if you have a 2.1 rooted phone you can flash a 2.2 Rooted ROM. Rooting a ROM pre-installed is different than rooting a ROM that is already installed on your phone.
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Not possible yet...if you were previously rooted and updated to OTA im sure you knew what you were doing and the consiquences because its all over the forums...for now you're just going to have to wait it out....no word on root-able 2.2 yet.
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nah, i didn't root my phone on 2.1. and i do know if i rooted, I should avoid official OTA when it cames, cuz it's highly possible to brick your phone, and at least, you will ruined your root for sure.
I guess i have to wait for a while to see someone publish confirmed way to do that.
what about downgrade? if so, how does it work?
You cannot downgrade. The upgrade to 2.2 updates your HBOOT. None of the RUU's will accept this updated HBOOT, causing the installation to error out.
Sorry man. You're just going to have to be patient on this.
How do i root froyo 2.2 cause i am at stock everything I need to know how to flash a recovery, how to flash radios, how to flash wimax???
Please tell me this is for lulz......since you've been a member since Jan.
I'm assuming you mean "Root" your phone so that you will be able to flash and load the various things you mentioned, in which case you will just have to wait patiently until the developers figure out how to root the phone.
2.2 has been rooted (not sure if using the correct term here) so that it can be loaded on a phone that was previously rooted on 2.1. If you applied the OTA updates from Sprint to get 2.2, then waiting is in order.
If you have stock 2.2 from the OTA Sprint updates, then you already have the latest Radio and Wimax...
-kp
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I'm assuming you mean "Root" your phone so that you will be able to flash and load the various things you mentioned, in which case you will just have to wait patiently until the developers figure out how to root the phone.
2.2 has been rooted (not sure if using the correct term here) so that it can be loaded on a phone that was previously rooted on 2.1. If you applied the OTA updates from Sprint to get 2.2, then waiting is in order.
If you have stock 2.2 from the OTA Sprint updates, then you already have the latest Radio and Wimax...
-kp
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Just to make it clearer, 2.2 has not been rooted on the EVO yet.. There are rooted 2.2 custom roms available, but they require you to already be rooted or you will have to root your 2.1, before flashing..
Neewwbb
Yea sorry im new to this site.. anyone have a ETA on the 2.2 root? this su*ks shouldnt have updated.. another thing what does "ROOT" access do really?
Root access basically just gives you administrator access to all parts of the phone. It's not like Jalibraking an iPhone, because the truth is Google doesn't really try to stop you from doing it at all.
You could root your phone just to give yourself the ability to do a backup, and keep everything stock. I was surprised when I bought my Evo, and saw that Google didn't have a way to do a full image backup. Root gives this to you.
You can also use root user access to replace ROM's, and use certain apps that only work with superuser access, or administrator access to put it another way. Examples would be wireless tether from theory of evolution, and titanium backup.
I use a root app called Rom Manager. It's a great way to try new Roms and flash back to stock if you don't like them. I know everyone warns about bricking your phone, and causing damage, but I wouldn't worry about it. You should be fine with anything you find in these forums, or from Rom Manager.
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Root access basically just gives you administrator access to all parts of the phone. It's not like Jalibraking an iPhone, because the truth is Google doesn't really try to stop you from doing it at all.
You could root your phone just to give yourself the ability to do a backup, and keep everything stock. I was surprised when I bought my Evo, and saw that Google didn't have a way to do a full image backup. Root gives this to you.
You can also use root user access to replace ROM's, and use certain apps that only work with superuser access, or administrator access to put it another way. Examples would be wireless tether from theory of evolution, and titanium backup.
I use a root app called Rom Manager. It's a great way to try new Roms and flash back to stock if you don't like them. I know everyone warns about bricking your phone, and causing damage, but I wouldn't worry about it. You should be fine with anything you find in these forums, or from Rom Manager.
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Google doesn't try to stop you, but the manufacturer's do.
It's more like jailbreaking than you think. Both rely on exploits in the software to gain root access to the system. That's why when you do an OTA update, you lose root. Because that exploit is no longer taken advantage up. That's also why it takes so long for people to find a root to the OTA versions. They need to haxxor through all of the code to try to find an exploit.
Though I admit, unRevoked rooting method is far more closely aligned to jailbreaking than a good old fashioned nand unlock.
2.2 I hear is far more secure, so I have a feeling we'll be having a bit of a waiting game.
It's laughable that we have yet another thread discussing this, but while we're on the subject, my personal opinion is that developer efforts would be better devoted to polishing a full EVO-compatible AOSP ROM from the source code up. But then, how would we flash it . . . ?
Oh well, never mind.
My phone is fully rooted with 2.1. I rooted it using the simple/easy 1,2,3,4 process.
If I were to install the ROM Flipzmode provided [ROM] 8/3/10 | Fresh Evo 3.1.0.1 | FroYo | OFFICIAL 3.26.651.6 OTA + fresh goodies Would I still retain my root if I flashed the device?
I'm pretty n00b here too.
Thanks in advance,
- Mitalis
I'm new here too....I have a fully rooted Moment (that I learned how to root @ SDX) but I finally broke down and added an Evo to the stable because of the screen's vastness....I purposefully held off on doing the 2.2 OTA because I plan to root my EVO any day now from the things I've read here @ XDA. This site has a lot of great tips on how to root the Evo....but if you need any more just do a bing.com search on "how to root an EVO" and you'll get plenty more. I love my Moment because it's the first phone I learned to root but I like this EVO too!
Mitalis said:
My phone is fully rooted with 2.1. I rooted it using the simple/easy 1,2,3,4 process.
If I were to install the ROM Flipzmode provided [ROM] 8/3/10 | Fresh Evo 3.1.0.1 | FroYo | OFFICIAL 3.26.651.6 OTA + fresh goodies Would I still retain my root if I flashed the device?
I'm pretty n00b here too.
Thanks in advance,
- Mitalis
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Yes you will be fine. Make sure to wipe before flashing.
Mitalis said:
My phone is fully rooted with 2.1. I rooted it using the simple/easy 1,2,3,4 process.
If I were to install the ROM Flipzmode provided [ROM] 8/3/10 | Fresh Evo 3.1.0.1 | FroYo | OFFICIAL 3.26.651.6 OTA + fresh goodies Would I still retain my root if I flashed the device?
I'm pretty n00b here too.
Thanks in advance,
- Mitalis
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if you were rooted with 2.1 then yes you can flash the new fresh 3.1.0.1 and still have root.
Thank you guys for answering my questions.
Much appreciated. =)
- James
Mitalis said:
Thank you guys for answering my questions.
Much appreciated. =)
- James
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Shut up, jerk.
Oh, wait . . . sorry, I'm just not used to politeness. You're welcome.
Im sure the DEVS will get us that 2.2 access here soon...
yes as long as u don't do an update to 2.2 ota.
u will be good...
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anyone have a ETA on the 2.2 root?
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When the sun has begun to ride through the sign of the Crab, and the river increases until it passes into the Balance. And as the weight of the waters decreases, the plains that before were navigable for boats will then be suitable for riders on horseback. Then, and only then, will you have root.
or not. Just keep your eye on the stickied thread in Q&A - it will be updated as soon as root is found.
So I have stock 2.2... rooted.... and I removed verizon crapware.
I just got the notification that an update is ready for me? this is the one that contains the verizon app store... as well as I think a new kernel.
Is it safe to install? would it even install? If I did would I lose root?
You would loose root if it takes.
The update may fail depending on if it checks for stock apps. Not sure if this update will.
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You would loose root if it takes.
The update may fail depending on if it checks for stock apps. Not sure if this update will.
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Well...since the root process also gives s-off... I'm a little confused about all of this. Shouldn't that let me get root back? and wouldn't the update fail since I don't have stock recovery?
Do I say install? Aaaaaigh
If you let it try to restart and install the update ClockworkMod will deny it, and the notification will go away for a while (either one day or one week, I can't remember).
I got the notification an hour or so ago on myn's warm twopointtwo.
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Well...since the root process also gives s-off... I'm a little confused about all of this. Shouldn't that let me get root back? and wouldn't the update fail since I don't have stock recovery?
Do I say install? Aaaaaigh
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Some one might be better able to explain root vs. S-OFF than I but ill give it a try.
Root is for your operating system. It's like in winblows having administrator privileges so you can execute high level commands, modify system settings, etc...
S-OFF allows for your phones bootloader (like a PCs BIOS) to flash unsigned files. So, if we do get an update that removes root, we can flash a custom recovery program, to then install a ROM that does have or can be rooted.
Do a backup. I don't think the update will install or stop bugging you to do it. You should be able to modify your build prop to stop the messages.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9123362&postcount=9
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I'm rooted and have S-Off, standard 2.2 ROM.
I would like to apply this OTA when it arrives, mostly because I'm a developer and have posted a few apps into the VCast store. Need to confirm they are there.
So should I hold off on applying it, or assume I can just use Unrevoked to re-root after the OTA?
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I'm rooted and have S-Off, standard 2.2 ROM.
I would like to apply this OTA when it arrives, mostly because I'm a developer and have posted a few apps into the VCast store. Need to confirm they are there.
So should I hold off on applying it, or assume I can just use Unrevoked to re-root after the OTA?
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+1 for this, I just want to install this for the sake of being up-to-date. I need my precious root, though.
I would like to apply this OTA when it arrives, mostly because I'm a developer and have posted a few apps into the VCast store. Need to confirm they are there.
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Why can't you look in the VCast store otherwise? If your phone is not the newest version then it won't have access to it?
Yeah... I would actually love to be able to install this... Especially since if I read correctly I would keep root.
As for the bloat, I can just remove it like the other bloat...
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I want this update but I'm on virtuous 3.1 and didn't get it... I want the apps and what not
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Mostly because I'd like to be able to check my vCast stats and comments from my phone, plus I think it's a good idea to be a user of the service if I'm selling apps on it.
*I posted this in another thread, copying here*
We have several Dinc's here at work. The only phones to receive this update so far are the slcd incredibles. Amoled doesn't seem to be getting it. And there appears to be a side effect after the update is applied, if you had a bluetooth device connected you need to unpair and re-pair the device. People are noticing that the scrolling seems much faster after the update so I'm going out on a limb and assuming the update had something to do with updating the slcd drivers.
Also had an issue on one where the phone wouldn't boot up after the reboot until the battery was pulled out and put back in.
***This did not break root on any of the phones***
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*I posted this in another thread, copying here*
We have several Dinc's here at work. The only phones to receive this update so far are the slcd incredibles. Amoled doesn't seem to be getting it. And there appears to be a side effect after the update is applied, if you had a bluetooth device connected you need to unpair and re-pair the device. People are noticing that the scrolling seems much faster after the update so I'm going out on a limb and assuming the update had something to do with updating the slcd drivers.
Also had an issue on one where the phone wouldn't boot up after the reboot until the battery was pulled out and put back in.
***This did not break root on any of the phones***
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Mine is one of the originals (had it since day one) and I received the OTA... it just didn't take cause I'm rooted (guessing it has something to do with replacing the recovery with clockwork.
I'd love to know how to apply it in case it was more than just crapware (which I will uninstall since i'm rooted)
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Mine is one of the originals (had it since day one) and I received the OTA... it just didn't take cause I'm rooted (guessing it has something to do with replacing the recovery with clockwork.
I'd love to know how to apply it in case it was more than just crapware (which I will uninstall since i'm rooted)
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I'm in the same situation, rooted original Incredible with Clockwork
This seems to be the info on the ota.
http://theflickcast.com/2010/11/12/htc-droid-incredible-ota-update-rolling-out/
And here's a link if you want the vcast apk
http://phandroid.com/2010/11/09/dro...ate-goes-out-today-v-cast-apps-now-available/
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This seems to be the info on the ota.
http://theflickcast.com/2010/11/12/htc-droid-incredible-ota-update-rolling-out/
And here's a link if you want the vcast apk
http://phandroid.com/2010/11/09/dro...ate-goes-out-today-v-cast-apps-now-available/
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I'd like those bug fixes, but it's not worth losing root :/
So it looks like someone will need to grab the OTA update... and repackage it as an update.zip for clockwork
Hello all!
First I am not new to flashing and/or hacking phones I have done many back in my WM and other phone days,just somewhat new to Android
I have looked around and I think I already know whats up but I can't say I have seen this question asked yet...I did search
Here we go,
I have an Evo with Hboot 2.10 Stock sprint flash (as in from the sprint store) and I updated to S/W 3.70 with out first checking to see what it had...(yea stupid of me )
What I want to do is Temp root into the phone,use Ti backup or whatever to make a back up of the stock apps and then remove them. I only want to remove the sprint tv,nascar,blockbuster and other apps that I don't use that don't tie into the rest of the OS.
I tried with Z4root but seeing as I have S/W 3.70 not much happens
I don't really care to flash to new rom as I am happy with the stock flash just want to get rid of apps I will never use.
So far my only option is to wait from what I have looked up,I just wanted to know if I could execute my plan with out a full system flash.
Thank you for your time and if anyone needs more info I will be glad to give it!
Yes, it seems 3.70 has patched the exploit that z4root was using to get temp root. Until the devs find a way to get a new exploit you'll have to wait.
With the rate these Devs work, I'd give it a week and you should be able to root your phone
Thanks!
I figured that was what I would have to do,but it never hurts to ask
A quick update.
It seems as if Z4root still does work even with the 3.70 OTA update...
I was searching around on Google and found people with this exact set up that had been able to temp root.
Not sure on the why yet but I had to do a reset to factory default first in order to get z4root to give me temp root(Maybe something from the update was hanging around on the phone blocking z4??). I then fired up TI backup and started to remove the Sprint stock apps I don't use and and a few other save to remove ones!
So if anyone is looking to stay on the stock sprint rom and has S/W 3.70 this might work for you as well!
And now I am fully rooted and running the sprintlovers rom. I was able to follow the guides here and get my phone flashed up.
If anyone has the same set up and needs help let me know!
How did you get permanent root on 3.70? I was going to try the'savior' adb method, but I'm afraid of bricking. I did just download unrevoked's new beta root though. I might try that when I get home
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how did you get root? I'm thinking of the savior method too (same evo specs). I'm guessing you used that since you're on sprintlovers?
Hello,
I was having a lot of trouble getting s-off for my Incredible 2, I guess because of my Windows 7 64bit operating system. I eventually got it done on a desktop with vista. however, that computer had no internet access so it didnt automatically install CWM. I havent had access to that computer for a while, so iwasnt able to flash CWM on my phone.
Today I tried doing the old temp root method, and once that was done, I installed superuser and busybox from the android market. now, without a new rom, CWM, new kernel, etc, my phone seems to be maintaining root access even after reboots.
Is there anything wrong with this picture? lol... When I was researching, it seemed that most places said you can't have root without installing a rom that has it. But it seems to be sticking without installing a rom. Is there any downsides to doing it this way?
Thank you anyone for your help, and I apologize if this is in the forums somewhere, but I did do a legitimate search and came up blank.
What method did you use and did you have froyo or ginger at the time?
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Why posting in the wrong forum .
Thread moved.
i used the alpharev x method, starting with froyo, I've never had ginger on my phone.
sorry about that =/ i thought since it was root/rom related it might go in the other forum.
oh, and for the temp root portion after s-off, i used this method--
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039015
I think there may b a problem, similar to people who used z4 root on other phones just to gain access to root apps without caring about custom roms and such. I'm afraid u will try to get pushed new ota updates, since ur still running completely stock, now I don't think that will take away your s off because of the high h boot version you now have, but it will take away your root, and I don't know how big of a deal that would b to you, but I would install clockwork recovery to prevent this. My brother had Droid x with z4 root, he left his phone alone for a while, and he came back to have gingerbread, it updated by itself cause he was completely stock with no recovery, just had Su permissions through z4, so now he's screwed and can't get root, or couldn't last time I checked. I have not even read how to install clockwork manually, I did it with the alpharevx tool, so I don't know of this would be a prob or not if u got updated to the ota gingerbread, hope this helps and makes sense, it does to me but that's a different story lol.
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lol!! it makes sense to me too.
I didn't know that phones could auto update with OTA's without user consent, pressing an "okay" button type of thing. Dammit. is there any point to having S-OFF without rooting?
installing CWM manually isn't exactly a problem, I just gotta wait til i get access to a non windows 7 64 bit computer again. hopefully that opportunity comes before an OTA is pushed to my phone.
Thank you for your input!
jeremytn86 said:
I think there may b a problem, similar to people who used z4 root on other phones just to gain access to root apps without caring about custom roms and such. I'm afraid u will try to get pushed new ota updates, since ur still running completely stock, now I don't think that will take away your s off because of the high h boot version you now have, but it will take away your root, and I don't know how big of a deal that would b to you, but I would install clockwork recovery to prevent this. My brother had Droid x with z4 root, he left his phone alone for a while, and he came back to have gingerbread, it updated by itself cause he was completely stock with no recovery, just had Su permissions through z4, so now he's screwed and can't get root, or couldn't last time I checked. I have not even read how to install clockwork manually, I did it with the alpharevx tool, so I don't know of this would be a prob or not if u got updated to the ota gingerbread, hope this helps and makes sense, it does to me but that's a different story lol.
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I couldn't see an advantage to just being s off, unless it allows u to use different sim cards, but I don't know, I'm no expert. The only thing I can think of is maybe it will leave the possibility of rooting open to u at a later time, but I don't know. I like my set up, its pretty much stock with some of the Verizon crap removed but I have root and can use rooted apps.
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thanks again for the input. i'll probably end up with that debloated type of rom too.
It depends on what you want. I'd say no problem if all you want is the root access.