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Once on 2.2, no root....

What's the best way to get rooted. I've tried te avalauncher way, they tell me I have to be rooted to use it. I've tried the simple root OTA, but when it's suppose to take you to factory restore, my phone goes to a backup/restore screen, so it fails cause I can't restore it. Please give me assistance.
I am running 2.2 from a manual install. No root.

You have to wait until the guys here find a way for p eople to root once they have 2.2 . That could take anywhere from a few days to a few weeks

Most likely you are NOT going to be able to root since you ran the OTA update for 2.2....
That is why you should read what you are flashing and know the consequences prior to doing so. Every thread that contained the download for the 2.2 leak said that it will make you lose root and the ability ( for now ) to gain root status.
You need to wait until one of the geniuses figure out a way to do it.
Sorry about your luck.

The best way is toast method...
Good luck!
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UND3RTAK3R said:
The best way is toast method...you can email me if you have any problems [email protected]
Good luck!
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Not gonna work since he used the 2.2 update man.

EVOme said:
What's the best way to get rooted. I've tried te avalauncher way, they tell me I have to be rooted to use it. I've tried the simple root OTA, but when it's suppose to take you to factory restore, my phone goes to a backup/restore screen, so it fails cause I can't restore it. Please give me assistance.
I am running 2.2 from a manual install. No root.
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1. wrong forum, should be in Q&A
2. if you did the manual update from Sprint, you will have to wait until the devs here create a root method for stock 2.2 is developed. Any existing root method will not work at all.

EVOme said:
What's the best way to get rooted. I've tried te avalauncher way, they tell me I have to be rooted to use it. I've tried the simple root OTA, but when it's suppose to take you to factory restore, my phone goes to a backup/restore screen, so it fails cause I can't restore it. Please give me assistance.
I am running 2.2 from a manual install. No root.
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You installed the plain OTA update? The one that says "not rooted yet" on the thread title?
For each new update, HTC tries to protect its software from being rooted. The last update required users to exploit a Flash Lite vulnerability and took a while. You will probably have to wait a long time before you can root this, since it doesn't have Flash Lite.
For future reference, root first THEN update to a rooted rom released by our devs. You can't just install Ava's rom on top of stock 2.2, it prevents you from doing so.

I'm sorry but HOW MANY posts were there saying if you want to keep root, DO NOT INSTALL THE UPDATE?? Ugh...
And yes I know this isn't constructive but sometimes people just need a slap on the back if the head.
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I'm in the same boat. After trying hard to resist the urge, I gave in and installed the leak. After finding the rooted version, I tried to use the 1.47 RUU to go back but it error-ed out. I'm so bummed I can't go back. Oh well; I knew the risk I was taking though so I guess I have to live with it...

Hours my my day wasted....HOURS!!!
Where's my AR-15

Wow, just wow.

I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?

Here we go again
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bludragon742 said:
I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?
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By digging thru it and finding an exploit.
Which will most likely happen for the 2.2 update as well, just not as of yet.

bludragon742 said:
I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?
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With a ROM, you can run through the zip file and essentially take out the parts that would remove root and modify as you see fit to put on an already rooted device -- the device isn't running all the security checks on the ROM, since it's already been rooted to remove those. Much easier, almost trivial.
If you have a non-rooted device, though, you have to find a way to get the device, not the ROM, rooted. The device isn't going to take an unofficial ROM. Big difference, since you have to exploit something already on the device somehow. With the last OTA update, it was Flash Lite that could be exploited for root access to the device. With this one, no one has found a method to root the device once the OTA has been applied (and probably won't really try that hard until the official version is released, in case it closes any exploits that are in the version floating around now).

xeno314 said:
With a ROM, you can run through the zip file and essentially take out the parts that would remove root and modify as you see fit to put on an already rooted device -- the device isn't running all the security checks on the ROM, since it's already been rooted to remove those. Much easier, almost trivial.
If you have a non-rooted device, though, you have to find a way to get the device, not the ROM, rooted. The device isn't going to take an unofficial ROM. Big difference, since you have to exploit something already on the device somehow. With the last OTA update, it was Flash Lite that could be exploited for root access to the device. With this one, no one has found a method to root the device once the OTA has been applied (and probably won't really try that hard until the official version is released, in case it closes any exploits that are in the version floating around now).
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Beat me to it and said it better.

bludragon742 said:
I'm in the same boat. After trying hard to resist the urge, I gave in and installed the leak. After finding the rooted version, I tried to use the 1.47 RUU to go back but it error-ed out. I'm so bummed I can't go back. Oh well; I knew the risk I was taking though so I guess I have to live with it...
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I have no idea how it was "hard to resist" when AVA's rooted version showed up at 5:30pm and netarchy's showed up around 9pm. They showed up before any official sprint OTA. Lets also not forget the hundreds of posts warning people that this would happen.
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I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?
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The "rooting method" allows you to get into restricted areas of the phone to install stuff. The act of rooting is breaking into the phone itself, not into the rom. The rom itself is fully accessable and can be hacked up, its just getting it onto the phone is the hard part.
Essentially your phone, stock, is a box that's locked from the inside. For older versions people figured out how to unlock it, so that you can put any hacked up rom onto it. The new OTA, no one knows how to get in yet.
Don't know if that makes sense. It's pretty easy to understand if you understand OS permissions.
EDIT: what the other guy said.

bludragon742 said:
I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?
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Because someone takes the CONTENT of the update, and applies it piece-by-piece to an already rooted image, ignoring the bits that replace HBOOT and etc.

Mad06STi said:
I have no idea how it was "hard to resist" when AVA's rooted version showed up at 5:30pm and netarchy's showed up around 9pm. .
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I'll tell you why. The thread gets to 200 pages. There are people saying it works, sucks, bricks, awesome, hate it, stay away, success, etc. After reading 40 pages of it you have no idea up from down. Speaking from someone that is not familiar with Android rooting. It's frustrating. Then you go to one of the other 50 threads and it's all the same.
I never saw anywhere that if I installed the leak i'd be screwed. I'm fine with that though. I have 2.2 and can wait. Just annoyed i've spent hours of my day on this.

This thread was a funny read.
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Want to upgrade to 2.2, but not sure how to proceed

Greetings all,
My Evo is still at 1.47 after foolishly taking the OTA update, and I haven't yet re-rooted it after the exploit was discovered. I want to upgrade to 2.2, but I am hesitant to do so after all the warnings from last time about taking OTA updates.
I really am not interested in a custom ROMs all that much, as I prefer stability and I want my 4G to work correctly.
With that said, I do want to keep my future options open. So, with that in mind, how should I first proceed?
I don't care about losing my apps and data, etc. I will reload.
- Should I follow the tutorials to first fully unlock the NAND?
- If so, can I then apply the official 2.2 update over the air?
- If I do that, and I have unlocked the NAND, can I revert to rock stock later?
- Is there a way (kitchen?) to keep the stock ROM and just remove some apps?
Thanks for the guidance, just want to proceed cautiously.
-Rob

robroy90 said:
Greetings all,
My Evo is still at 1.47 after foolishly taking the OTA update, and I haven't yet re-rooted it after the exploit was discovered. I want to upgrade to 2.2, but I am hesitant to do so after all the warnings from last time about taking OTA updates.
I really am not interested in a custom ROMs all that much, as I prefer stability and I want my 4G to work correctly.
With that said, I do want to keep my future options open. So, with that in mind, how should I first proceed?
I don't care about losing my apps and data, etc. I will reload.
- Should I follow the tutorials to first fully unlock the NAND?
- If so, can I then apply the official 2.2 update over the air?
- If I do that, and I have unlocked the NAND, can I revert to rock stock later?
- Is there a way (kitchen?) to keep the stock ROM and just remove some apps?
Thanks for the guidance, just want to proceed cautiously.
-Rob
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DO NOT UPGRADE/UPDATE, do a full root then flash any of the Froyo/2.2 ROM's already rooted

most of the release roms have 4g working as well as are very stable. I bet if you tried any of the custom roms you would be suprised. I have very few issues with the custom roms i have used (mainly fresh and dc). As i need my phone everyday for work and am a very heavy user because of it i can tell you hat you will probably be fine with any of the big custom roms (cm6 excluded if you need 4g)
Now on to the question if you root and then take the OTA you are basically jsut wasting time as it will unroot your phone. Your best bet is to root the phone and then if you dont want a custom rom find the stock rooted 2.2 rom in the dev section and flash that. it is the stock room except it doesnt override your root. nothing else is done to it.
This would allow you to have froyo on as close to the ota as possible while not killing your ability to root or taking away your root.

This. I'm lost along with all of the other users who applied the OTA to 2.2 (I have the leaked version). Once I get root again I will never unroot, ever. Flash this ROM (Post ID: 740520, can't post links yet), it's the rooted OTA ROM for 2.2. Keep your NAND, keep your root... having official software means you're stuck with terrible "official" support from HTC and Sprint.
Best of luck.

Will there be an effort to Root HTC 2.2?

[Q] How to Root Evo 3.26.651.3
Hi,
I'm stuck on the leaked Froyo update, had tried simple root and unrevoked and not luck, does anybody knows how to root HTC EVo 4G Froyo 2.2
software version 3.26.651.3 (beginer here)

Not possible on that version yet.

for now their is nothing you can do untill either HTC sends an OTA update to allow you to get the newest OTS Update or untill someone figures out a new root method for 2.2

God forbid a question go in the Q&A Forum.

Maybe you can flash a stock previous OTA (the 1.76 one) then try simple root? Maybe you can install 2.2 rooted after that?

There is another forum post that says you can go to the sprint store and they will downgrade you to 1.47 as long as you have .3. I am going to go try to do this today and then try to root after.

Is there enough demand for someone to develop a root for the new Froyo on the Evo?
I wonder if everyone who wanted to be rooted did not update on the OTA Froyo.
I did not see any reason to root when it seemed that all the roms had issues before the update.

texasez said:
Is there enough demand for someone to develop a root for the new Froyo on the Evo?
I wonder if everyone who wanted to be rooted did not update on the OTA Froyo.
I did not see any reason to root when it seemed that all the roms had issues before the update.
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It is not a question on will there be people trying to do this. I am sure a lot of the devs are. The question is will they be able to find an exploit to be able to.

dwertz said:
It is not a question on will there be people trying to do this. I am sure a lot of the devs are. The question is will they be able to find an exploit to be able to.
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There just does not seem to be any urgency to root Froyo. I see not mention in any of the forums I monitor.

texasez said:
Is there enough demand for someone to develop a root for the new Froyo on the Evo?
I wonder if everyone who wanted to be rooted did not update on the OTA Froyo.
I did not see any reason to root when it seemed that all the roms had issues before the update.
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????????????????????? uh What?
Q - Is there enough demand for someone to develop a root for the new Froyo on the Evo?
A - Of Course... really doesn't even need to be asked
Q - I wonder if everyone who wanted to be rooted did not update on the OTA Froyo.
A - Everyone that wanted to be rooted, were rooted, and probably upgraded to the rooted .3 pre-release and then upgraded to the rooted .6 final release
Q - I did not see any reason to root when it seemed that all the roms had issues before the update
A- What? You can root without flashing a rom... Why? Many reasons of which one is to be able to tether without paying Sprint a stupid fee for using the wifi router which doesn't need a custom rom.
But I don't quite know what you mean by "all" the roms had problems.... Simply not true, Most of the roms are and have been nothing more than stock roms with root access, with Sprint crap removed or mabey small changes in icons, lock screens, or rosies. The only time people start having issues in when you get into overclocking and changing kernels for reasons like higher fps's or 5 point multitouch. I have been running 2.1 roms with nothing broken or not working and 2.2 roms (.3 and .6) with everything working fine(4g, wifi tether, fps fix, overclocked, 5 point multitouch, etc)
The only people at this point that are waiting for a 2.2 root are the people that were too stupid impatient to wait 2 hrs before the .3 was rooted and reverted to stock to flash the pre-release 2.2 or people that updated first before realizing how much nicer it is to have a rooted phone.
Everyday new EVO owners are bringing there new phones home by the thousands and getting online trying to see how they can get root. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find out that the devs here have found a way to root a new 2.2 EVO before you even read this.

The Unrevoked team is working on it, but they don't have real root in the first place.

Riptide9 said:
????????????????????? uh What?
Q - Is there enough demand for someone to develop a root for the new Froyo on the Evo?
A - Of Course... really doesn't even need to be asked
Q - I wonder if everyone who wanted to be rooted did not update on the OTA Froyo.
A - Everyone that wanted to be rooted, were rooted, and probably upgraded to the rooted .3 pre-release and then upgraded to the rooted .6 final release
Q - I did not see any reason to root when it seemed that all the roms had issues before the update
A- What? You can root without flashing a rom... Why? Many reasons of which one is to be able to tether without paying Sprint a stupid fee for using the wifi router which doesn't need a custom rom.
But I don't quite know what you mean by "all" the roms had problems.... Simply not true.........
.....Everyday new EVO owners are bringing there new phones home by the thousands and getting online trying to see how they can get root. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find out that the devs here have found a way to root a new 2.2 EVO before you even read this.
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+1 Exactly

Its only been out for 5 days calm down. Im pretty sure the devs chat with each other through im and what not. as well i rather see them working on a root process then posting on here. if you want root then you should of not updated if you had no choice because you got the phone after the 31st - 1st then your sol right now

Two wrongs don't make a right....
OP....be patient young grasshopper....

Don't see no reason why not. It's an open source OS it's only a matter of time for a dev to find a way. Let's just hope for all of your guys that are not rooted or decided to un root to get 2.2, it's sooner rather than later.
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I am willing to test it when it come out. It's only a phone.

I noticed something interesting when I stopped by the Sprint store yesterday.
There was an older gentleman there purchasing an Evo. I felt a little sad because I knew that poor phone would never get hax'd. The manager instructed the sales person to charge the phone and make sure to run the update after activation.
My guess is that the majority of Evos from this point on will come with Froyo, so I'm sure there will be an effort to root.

I would like to see a one step method to root that has a hundred pages of "Thank You" rather that the hundred pages of problems and explanations I see now.

texasez said:
I would like to see a one step method to root that has a hundred pages of "Thank You" rather that the hundred pages of problems and explanations I see now.
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then do it yourself.

Did it work? Did they downgrade you?

Root After Update?

I've been considering rooting my phone at some point. I read in one post that the new OTA update might make rooting impossible. Is this true?
As a follow up question- Seems from the forum posts that some people end up with various problems after flashing. Is it really worth rooting and flashing? What are the most important advantages and improvements?
Thanks
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Dude just root your phone. Having complete control over your device is reason enough to do it. Some programs don't even work without it. Rooting is simple too btw with Unrevoked3. Make sure to get unrevoked3 because unrevoked forever will void any chance at a warrenty claim.

I'm a total noobie to rooting and flashing so please excuse me if I have this wrong.
I would be fine waiting for the official OTA update and then rooting and flashing a cooked ROM but I read on some posts that rooting may not be possible after the update. The advice seems to be to run unrevokedforever to get "s-off" and gain permanent root access. My biggest concern with this is voiding my warranty. I already had to return one of these for a bad speaker.
Can I just refuse the OTA until unrevoked gets s-on?

Before you do any rooting; consider the reason you want to root your phone. If you want official OTA updates then don't bother. IF you want to have the freedom and take on the responsibility of doing whatever you want to your phone and the consequences of not fully understanding what you're doing, then root your phone.
Rooting is not for everyone, decide what you want from your phone first, then consider what you'll gain from having root.
You can re-root your phone, but like anything else it carries risks, be ready to buy a new phone for $600 when you blow this one up. Then you are ready to root for certain.

Good advice DIC. I certainly don't want to shell out the dollars for a new phone. My main reasons for rooting and flashing would be:
- Better battery life
- wifi tethering
- having control for reasons I might realize later
- fun
Will the OTA update address the first 2 issues?
Will rooting still be possible after the OTA? If so I can just enjoy the benefits of that and then root and flash if I still want to.

Rooting after the 2.2 OTA
I ran across some older Unrevoked comments that were in the vein that all of their exploits had been plugged in the 2.2 OTA so finding new ones might take time. That was a few weeks ago so who knows what they have now. So if you accept the 2.2 OTA without the S-OFF mod, then you will have to wait for Unrevoked 4(?) to find a new exploit.
S-OFF on the other hand will let you accept any official, locked down update, load you own recovery (ClockworkMod) and from there load su/Superuser.apk.
I happen to be a Linux developer, so I'm interested in unlocking the phone so I can understand the lower levels (below the Android java machine). But I am also cautious, so I would prefer to start with stock and mod the system in bits and pieces as I need and understand it.

S-OFF on the other hand will let you accept any official, locked down update, load you own recovery (ClockworkMod) and from there load su/Superuser.apk.
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So are you saying you recommend applying forever and s-off now before accepting the OTA update?
As a "cautious" linux developer what have you done with your phone at this point?

I think I will root the phone with unrevoked3 and just install wireless tethering from the app store for now.
I would also like to update the radio for better performance. I read I can only update to 2.05 without applying s-off and that it can brick my phone if I install it twice. Is this a good idea?
If the official OTA shows up can I run it on a rooted phone? I assume I can. More importantly, do I want to?

marcmarshall said:
So are you saying you recommend applying forever and s-off now before accepting the OTA update?
As a "cautious" linux developer what have you done with your phone at this point?
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I applied the S-OFF mod specifically because I want to use stock as a starting point rather than relying upon a rebuilt or reconstructed MOD from someone else. Not that I don't trust the developers - they do a lot of great work. But with so many files flying around and very little source code behind those mods, I rather build the pieces myself (as much as is feasible). Koush has a lot of his work available on github, for example, and you can see exactly how he goes about replacing a kernel. I've also been able to recompile the kernel from the HTC released sources - now if I can find the configuration files that the Hydra Kernel developer uses, then I can roll my own kernels - again from stock sources.
To address your second question - I've done a network port scan on my phone to identify open TCP or UDP ports and found an unidentified UDP port listening. I posted a thread and some deductive reasoning from other XDA users narrowed down the source to the new Chrome to Phone feature. I'll be able to verify this after the stock 2.2 OTA comes through, but the phone is really a little Linux system under the Java machine that "traps" most of the Android apps. Root privilege bypasses the Android security and the hardware security (NAND lock) and could allow a "root" only app to install something under the hood. The phones are trapped in Verizon's network, so they are hard to get to, but the standard firewall (iptableS) is down by default.
So as Spiderman's Uncle Ben says, "With great power comes great responsibility". If you root your phone, but do not compile your own apps/mods from source, then you must rely upon the integrity of the community and file sharing systems for the mods that you install. S-OFF will let you install stock images and then as a minimum you need a replacement recovery (ClockworkMod) and the superuser package. But from there, you can work as you see fit.
It may benefit the community to have some form of central "Modding integrity verification" system for example where source codes, update zips and md5sums are fully documented so that if you pull down a mod from a file sharing site, then you have a good idea that the file is from the original developer. Then if the developer is good with changelogs and source, the user can feel reasonably good as to the integrity what's running on the phone. It would slow down innovation however.

I like the way you think Starfire. Last night I rooted with Unrevoked3, no s-off. I've only added a few root only apps and removed a couple bloats so far. I'm concerned about not being able to root after the OTA update so I think I will stop worrying so much and apply Unrevoked forever, update the radio, and apply the leaked or a custom ROM.
I like Sense and I would like a kernal with the adaptive cpu clocking, or whatever it is called, so I can improve battery life. Any suggestions?
Thanks much............mm

If you wait for the official ota its gonna be a while until a developer group like unrevoked finds a way to root it. If you want wifi tethering and froyo now I suggest rooting.
youtube.com/user/mejdam
^has several guides on how to root upgrade to baseband 2.05 and downgrade back to stock. Most roms can run on 2.05. If you want to extend battery life I suggest installing a hydra kernal that is undervolted or kingxkernal (if you want more control in oc). Also only way to get true wifi tethering for free is through rooting.
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marcmarshall said:
I like the way you think Starfire. Last night I rooted with Unrevoked3, no s-off. I've only added a few root only apps and removed a couple bloats so far. I'm concerned about not being able to root after the OTA update so I think I will stop worrying so much and apply Unrevoked forever, update the radio, and apply the leaked or a custom ROM.
I like Sense and I would like a kernal with the adaptive cpu clocking, or whatever it is called, so I can improve battery life. Any suggestions?
Thanks much............mm
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I played with SkyRaider 2.2 Sense and liked it a lot. 2.5.2 sounds even better although I have not tried it because (1) I have my phone S-OFF, rooted stock 2.1 with the stock 605.2 recovery waiting a few more days for the OTA and (2) there was a lot of back and forth with boot loops, sound fixes, Hulu fixes, etc. so I'm letting it settle out a bit. The SkyRaider dev does a great job with extras and themes available through ROM Manager. If the OTA takes too much longer, I may give that one a shot again - and keep looking under the hood.

I think I will play a little wait and see also. I was also leaning to skyraider based on what I had read. I might use it and then patch this kernal http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=760050&highlight=cpu+rom+battery . It is optimized for battery usage. I need to do some homework about it though to see if Skyraider is not already using the same optimization and that it is stable.
Thanks!

[Q] New to andriod

Hey guys!
I just recently gotten T-mobile's G2! I already got it unlocked by paying $8 to get the unlock code .
Soo, I have been doing a lot of reading regarding rooting, perm and temp, android , etc! I was a iphone 3GS user, so I don't have that much experience or any at all with android.
What is OTA? Does it mean "over the air" update?!
I am interested in rooting my g2. I checked the wiki out. However, there are couple of things I am not sure of.
First of all, what does stock rom mean? Is it like the original android 2.2 (fyro)? that is unmodified by T-mobile and other such carriers?
Did my G2 come with stock rom? or came with T-mobile's stock rom?
Also, I did update my G2 via "OTA" i suppose. How do I know I have the latest OTA? I am really confused about this part. I have checked various threads about it, but they were not able to clarify it for me.
Any links that would explain it, would greatly help me!
thank you guys & gals for help and replying !

Just asked this question
1. http://theunlockr.com/2010/10/20/how-to-root-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision-visionary-method/
2. http://theunlockr.com/2010/11/30/how-to-gain-permanent-root-and-s-off-on-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision/
3. (Optional Custom ROM) http://theunlockr.com/2010/11/30/how-to-load-a-custom-rom-on-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision/
Watch the videos most helpful. Also OTA is over the air update that for offical updates t-mobile pushes out.

You know you've got the latest OTA when no more show up
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 running Cyanogenmod.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=android+root
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blackknightavalon said:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=android+root
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Haha that makes me laugh every time I see it

There's a lot of great reasons to root, but a lot of great reasons also to stay with stock (like warranty). You DON'T need root to use an unlocked handset with another carrier. Just the APNs for that carrier (see Android manual for how to add one).
So, that said, the XDA wiki under HTC Vision has a lot of great info on rooting and SuperCID and custom ROMs, as does Cyanogen's site.
Stock ROM basically means "official" or "pre-loaded" ROM -- the one that the phone came with.
But before you begin anything I strongly encourage you to Google what "root" means on Linux and what it allows you to do, and ask yourself if you really need root before you start trying to get it on your G2. If you're not a hacker and just plan on using apps from the market you probably don't need it anyway. But I'll leave that decision up to you.

Thank you for all your insightful replies!
Yes, I have read regarding rooting and linux . I am sort of an hacker , since I've worked on iphone stuff.
Thanks for the links. I will have a look at them! I appreciate all your efforts.

Ok you need to set up an androidsdk environment. You need jdk for it to work. And while not necessary putting the tools directory for the sdk in the path definitely saves a lot of typing copying and pasting.
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LimitsX said:
I just recently gotten T-mobile's G2!
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Congratulations!
I already got it unlocked by paying $8 to get the unlock code .
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$8 isn't too but but you didn't need to spend that, the recommended method for obtaining root has an (optional) side effect of unlocking the phone. You will see this referred to as the "gfree" method.
What is OTA? Does it mean "over the air" update?!
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Yes OTA means "Over The Air" when your carrier sends an update for your phone over the cellular airwaves it's an OTA update. These updates are official an only designed for the stock ROM.
First of all, what does stock rom mean? Is it like the original android 2.2 (fyro)? that is unmodified by T-mobile and other such carriers?
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A "Stock ROM" is simply the ROM that came installed on your phone, any phones updated by an OTA update could also be considered to be running a stock ROM. Generally it refers to the OS version your carrier and manufacturer want/expect you to have. This is opposed to a "Custom ROM" which is a customized version of Android, there are a number of different custom ROMs for the G2 each with their own features and capabilities.
Did my G2 come with stock rom? or came with T-mobile's stock rom?
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Every phone comes with a stock ROM, by definition.
Also, I did update my G2 via "OTA" i suppose. How do I know I have the latest OTA? I am really confused about this part. I have checked various threads about it, but they were not able to clarify it for me.
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When a new OTA update is released, it takes a little while for the update to reach all the devices. There hasn't been a new OTA for the G2 in a while and AFAIK there has only been one so far. I would expect that if you just got your phone you would have received an OTA update within a day or two, and now would be up to date. As long as you are running a stock ROM you will receive new OTAs as they are released, if you root your phone but maintain the stock ROM (the state my own G2 is in right now) you would generally want to avoid installing any OTA because the update could cause you to lose root without the ability to get it back (if the OTA fixes the security hole that allowed root to be obtained)
Regarding temp vs permanent root. When the G2 first came out people had a hard time obtaining root, They first obtained "temp root" which persisted until the phone was rebooted. With a temp root any changes you make will be gone the next time you reboot your phone, because security settings of the phone prevent those changes from actually being committed to the phone. For example if you temp root your phone and remove the built in PhotoBucket application you will see that the app is back when you reboot next. Eventually they discovered how to obtain "permanent root" which will allow you to keep your root access across reboots and allows you to make permanent changes to your phone. An essential part of permanent root is defeating the security settings that prevent permanent changes to the phones memory. It should be noted that you first need to get temp root before you can get permanent root.

Just regarding the gfree method.... it does work quite well. But it did introduce a few unexpected quirks to my G2. I went back to all stock configs and decided I didn't need root so badly afterall. But it was nice to know how easy it was to do such a thing on a phone considered at one time to be unrootable.
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