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If one of us happens to get the update, and want to keep root....what do you want us to do with the update?
Don't install it. I'm not sure how to do that with an Android device.
However if it does get installed you will lose root. It could also cause some problems if it gets pushed to your phone.
The devs will have a rooted version of the rom before they will have a root method for the rom.
I think it is safe to say, if you want to keep Root, ignore the update prompt, and wait for the developers here to make rooted versions of the ROM.
The original firmware was rooted before the phone came out. (I don't know how long it took developers to actually Root the phone, since I don't know how long they had the developers release in their hands).
When the 1.47 OTA came out, it broke root, and became a mad scramble to try to re-root the phone. If I remember right, it took a couple weeks to find the workaround that would allow root.
It is a good bet that the new release WILL break root again, and there is no telling how long it will be before it can be rooted again, if ever.
is this a serious question? most updates will remove all hacked/homebrew stuff been hapning since the begining of time.......(i.e. PSP, Nintendo Wii, iPhone/touch......)just dont update...take this stuff to yahoo answers.
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If one of us happens to get the update, and want to keep root....what do you want us to do with the update?
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Update lose root. Period. Just wait.
ohh geez, be prepared for all of the topics like "just updated to sprints official froyo update and lost root can i root it back?" my gawd its gonna get annoying
i guess this is a noob question, but how long does it take to get a rooted stock rome of this 2.2? i would assume not too long correct?
usually same day.. its all about patience which there is little of.. i can guarantee you will have a stock rooted rom by this weeks end
What's the best way to get rooted. I've tried te avalauncher way, they tell me I have to be rooted to use it. I've tried the simple root OTA, but when it's suppose to take you to factory restore, my phone goes to a backup/restore screen, so it fails cause I can't restore it. Please give me assistance.
I am running 2.2 from a manual install. No root.
You have to wait until the guys here find a way for p eople to root once they have 2.2 . That could take anywhere from a few days to a few weeks
Most likely you are NOT going to be able to root since you ran the OTA update for 2.2....
That is why you should read what you are flashing and know the consequences prior to doing so. Every thread that contained the download for the 2.2 leak said that it will make you lose root and the ability ( for now ) to gain root status.
You need to wait until one of the geniuses figure out a way to do it.
Sorry about your luck.
The best way is toast method...
Good luck!
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UND3RTAK3R said:
The best way is toast method...you can email me if you have any problems [email protected]
Good luck!
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Not gonna work since he used the 2.2 update man.
EVOme said:
What's the best way to get rooted. I've tried te avalauncher way, they tell me I have to be rooted to use it. I've tried the simple root OTA, but when it's suppose to take you to factory restore, my phone goes to a backup/restore screen, so it fails cause I can't restore it. Please give me assistance.
I am running 2.2 from a manual install. No root.
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1. wrong forum, should be in Q&A
2. if you did the manual update from Sprint, you will have to wait until the devs here create a root method for stock 2.2 is developed. Any existing root method will not work at all.
EVOme said:
What's the best way to get rooted. I've tried te avalauncher way, they tell me I have to be rooted to use it. I've tried the simple root OTA, but when it's suppose to take you to factory restore, my phone goes to a backup/restore screen, so it fails cause I can't restore it. Please give me assistance.
I am running 2.2 from a manual install. No root.
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You installed the plain OTA update? The one that says "not rooted yet" on the thread title?
For each new update, HTC tries to protect its software from being rooted. The last update required users to exploit a Flash Lite vulnerability and took a while. You will probably have to wait a long time before you can root this, since it doesn't have Flash Lite.
For future reference, root first THEN update to a rooted rom released by our devs. You can't just install Ava's rom on top of stock 2.2, it prevents you from doing so.
I'm sorry but HOW MANY posts were there saying if you want to keep root, DO NOT INSTALL THE UPDATE?? Ugh...
And yes I know this isn't constructive but sometimes people just need a slap on the back if the head.
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I'm in the same boat. After trying hard to resist the urge, I gave in and installed the leak. After finding the rooted version, I tried to use the 1.47 RUU to go back but it error-ed out. I'm so bummed I can't go back. Oh well; I knew the risk I was taking though so I guess I have to live with it...
Hours my my day wasted....HOURS!!!
Where's my AR-15
Wow, just wow.
I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?
Here we go again
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I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?
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By digging thru it and finding an exploit.
Which will most likely happen for the 2.2 update as well, just not as of yet.
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I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?
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With a ROM, you can run through the zip file and essentially take out the parts that would remove root and modify as you see fit to put on an already rooted device -- the device isn't running all the security checks on the ROM, since it's already been rooted to remove those. Much easier, almost trivial.
If you have a non-rooted device, though, you have to find a way to get the device, not the ROM, rooted. The device isn't going to take an unofficial ROM. Big difference, since you have to exploit something already on the device somehow. With the last OTA update, it was Flash Lite that could be exploited for root access to the device. With this one, no one has found a method to root the device once the OTA has been applied (and probably won't really try that hard until the official version is released, in case it closes any exploits that are in the version floating around now).
xeno314 said:
With a ROM, you can run through the zip file and essentially take out the parts that would remove root and modify as you see fit to put on an already rooted device -- the device isn't running all the security checks on the ROM, since it's already been rooted to remove those. Much easier, almost trivial.
If you have a non-rooted device, though, you have to find a way to get the device, not the ROM, rooted. The device isn't going to take an unofficial ROM. Big difference, since you have to exploit something already on the device somehow. With the last OTA update, it was Flash Lite that could be exploited for root access to the device. With this one, no one has found a method to root the device once the OTA has been applied (and probably won't really try that hard until the official version is released, in case it closes any exploits that are in the version floating around now).
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Beat me to it and said it better.
bludragon742 said:
I'm in the same boat. After trying hard to resist the urge, I gave in and installed the leak. After finding the rooted version, I tried to use the 1.47 RUU to go back but it error-ed out. I'm so bummed I can't go back. Oh well; I knew the risk I was taking though so I guess I have to live with it...
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I have no idea how it was "hard to resist" when AVA's rooted version showed up at 5:30pm and netarchy's showed up around 9pm. They showed up before any official sprint OTA. Lets also not forget the hundreds of posts warning people that this would happen.
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I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?
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The "rooting method" allows you to get into restricted areas of the phone to install stuff. The act of rooting is breaking into the phone itself, not into the rom. The rom itself is fully accessable and can be hacked up, its just getting it onto the phone is the hard part.
Essentially your phone, stock, is a box that's locked from the inside. For older versions people figured out how to unlock it, so that you can put any hacked up rom onto it. The new OTA, no one knows how to get in yet.
Don't know if that makes sense. It's pretty easy to understand if you understand OS permissions.
EDIT: what the other guy said.
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I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?
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Because someone takes the CONTENT of the update, and applies it piece-by-piece to an already rooted image, ignoring the bits that replace HBOOT and etc.
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I have no idea how it was "hard to resist" when AVA's rooted version showed up at 5:30pm and netarchy's showed up around 9pm. .
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I'll tell you why. The thread gets to 200 pages. There are people saying it works, sucks, bricks, awesome, hate it, stay away, success, etc. After reading 40 pages of it you have no idea up from down. Speaking from someone that is not familiar with Android rooting. It's frustrating. Then you go to one of the other 50 threads and it's all the same.
I never saw anywhere that if I installed the leak i'd be screwed. I'm fine with that though. I have 2.2 and can wait. Just annoyed i've spent hours of my day on this.
This thread was a funny read.
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I've been using my EVO for a while, and I did OTA to Froyo last night. I would like to try root it after a while, just want to know if there were anyone starting to work on the way for the EVO after Froyo upgrade?
Or, for non-rooted evo, can i do downgrade to old version official ROM, then root it?
JvIo55iBl3r said:
I've been using my EVO for a while, and I did OTA to Froyo last night. I would like to try root it after a while, just want to know if there were anyone starting to work on the way for the EVO after Froyo upgrade?
Or, for non-rooted evo, can i do downgrade to old version official ROM, then root it?
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Not possible yet...if you were previously rooted and updated to OTA im sure you knew what you were doing and the consiquences because its all over the forums...for now you're just going to have to wait it out....no word on root-able 2.2 yet.
I know unrevoked is working on a root but unless it has full nand unlock I wouldn't use it.
Well will be happy when someone does I want a stock rooted 2.2. Now im also wondering if there is a new way we have to root. Seems like everytime we get an update they have to come up with a new way to root. I have looked and read almost everything. Was wondering if someone can help a little. Sorry for hi-jacking OP.
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Well will be happy when someone does I want a stock rooted 2.2. Now im also wondering if there is a new way we have to root. Seems like everytime we get an update they have to come up with a new way to root. I have looked and read almost everything. Was wondering if someone can help a little. Sorry for hi-jacking OP.
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almost every update they will fix the current way we root. there already is and has been a stock 2.2 rooted in development forums. Before you can use it you have to be rooted however and if you are already on stock 2.2 that could be a while for them to find a way to exploit a bug to let you root again.
OK was making sure that rooted stock was good. Also i thought there wasnt a way to root yet from a 2.2, just making sure. Thanks!
mebo73 said:
OK was making sure that rooted stock was good. Also i thought there wasnt a way to root yet from a 2.2, just making sure. Thanks!
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You are right.. If you have 2.2 unrooted on your phone you cannot root it at this time. However if you have a 2.1 rooted phone you can flash a 2.2 Rooted ROM. Rooting a ROM pre-installed is different than rooting a ROM that is already installed on your phone.
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Not possible yet...if you were previously rooted and updated to OTA im sure you knew what you were doing and the consiquences because its all over the forums...for now you're just going to have to wait it out....no word on root-able 2.2 yet.
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nah, i didn't root my phone on 2.1. and i do know if i rooted, I should avoid official OTA when it cames, cuz it's highly possible to brick your phone, and at least, you will ruined your root for sure.
I guess i have to wait for a while to see someone publish confirmed way to do that.
what about downgrade? if so, how does it work?
You cannot downgrade. The upgrade to 2.2 updates your HBOOT. None of the RUU's will accept this updated HBOOT, causing the installation to error out.
Sorry man. You're just going to have to be patient on this.
[Q] How to Root Evo 3.26.651.3
Hi,
I'm stuck on the leaked Froyo update, had tried simple root and unrevoked and not luck, does anybody knows how to root HTC EVo 4G Froyo 2.2
software version 3.26.651.3 (beginer here)
Not possible on that version yet.
for now their is nothing you can do untill either HTC sends an OTA update to allow you to get the newest OTS Update or untill someone figures out a new root method for 2.2
God forbid a question go in the Q&A Forum.
Maybe you can flash a stock previous OTA (the 1.76 one) then try simple root? Maybe you can install 2.2 rooted after that?
There is another forum post that says you can go to the sprint store and they will downgrade you to 1.47 as long as you have .3. I am going to go try to do this today and then try to root after.
Is there enough demand for someone to develop a root for the new Froyo on the Evo?
I wonder if everyone who wanted to be rooted did not update on the OTA Froyo.
I did not see any reason to root when it seemed that all the roms had issues before the update.
texasez said:
Is there enough demand for someone to develop a root for the new Froyo on the Evo?
I wonder if everyone who wanted to be rooted did not update on the OTA Froyo.
I did not see any reason to root when it seemed that all the roms had issues before the update.
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It is not a question on will there be people trying to do this. I am sure a lot of the devs are. The question is will they be able to find an exploit to be able to.
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It is not a question on will there be people trying to do this. I am sure a lot of the devs are. The question is will they be able to find an exploit to be able to.
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There just does not seem to be any urgency to root Froyo. I see not mention in any of the forums I monitor.
texasez said:
Is there enough demand for someone to develop a root for the new Froyo on the Evo?
I wonder if everyone who wanted to be rooted did not update on the OTA Froyo.
I did not see any reason to root when it seemed that all the roms had issues before the update.
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????????????????????? uh What?
Q - Is there enough demand for someone to develop a root for the new Froyo on the Evo?
A - Of Course... really doesn't even need to be asked
Q - I wonder if everyone who wanted to be rooted did not update on the OTA Froyo.
A - Everyone that wanted to be rooted, were rooted, and probably upgraded to the rooted .3 pre-release and then upgraded to the rooted .6 final release
Q - I did not see any reason to root when it seemed that all the roms had issues before the update
A- What? You can root without flashing a rom... Why? Many reasons of which one is to be able to tether without paying Sprint a stupid fee for using the wifi router which doesn't need a custom rom.
But I don't quite know what you mean by "all" the roms had problems.... Simply not true, Most of the roms are and have been nothing more than stock roms with root access, with Sprint crap removed or mabey small changes in icons, lock screens, or rosies. The only time people start having issues in when you get into overclocking and changing kernels for reasons like higher fps's or 5 point multitouch. I have been running 2.1 roms with nothing broken or not working and 2.2 roms (.3 and .6) with everything working fine(4g, wifi tether, fps fix, overclocked, 5 point multitouch, etc)
The only people at this point that are waiting for a 2.2 root are the people that were too stupid impatient to wait 2 hrs before the .3 was rooted and reverted to stock to flash the pre-release 2.2 or people that updated first before realizing how much nicer it is to have a rooted phone.
Everyday new EVO owners are bringing there new phones home by the thousands and getting online trying to see how they can get root. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find out that the devs here have found a way to root a new 2.2 EVO before you even read this.
The Unrevoked team is working on it, but they don't have real root in the first place.
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????????????????????? uh What?
Q - Is there enough demand for someone to develop a root for the new Froyo on the Evo?
A - Of Course... really doesn't even need to be asked
Q - I wonder if everyone who wanted to be rooted did not update on the OTA Froyo.
A - Everyone that wanted to be rooted, were rooted, and probably upgraded to the rooted .3 pre-release and then upgraded to the rooted .6 final release
Q - I did not see any reason to root when it seemed that all the roms had issues before the update
A- What? You can root without flashing a rom... Why? Many reasons of which one is to be able to tether without paying Sprint a stupid fee for using the wifi router which doesn't need a custom rom.
But I don't quite know what you mean by "all" the roms had problems.... Simply not true.........
.....Everyday new EVO owners are bringing there new phones home by the thousands and getting online trying to see how they can get root. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find out that the devs here have found a way to root a new 2.2 EVO before you even read this.
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+1 Exactly
Its only been out for 5 days calm down. Im pretty sure the devs chat with each other through im and what not. as well i rather see them working on a root process then posting on here. if you want root then you should of not updated if you had no choice because you got the phone after the 31st - 1st then your sol right now
Two wrongs don't make a right....
OP....be patient young grasshopper....
Don't see no reason why not. It's an open source OS it's only a matter of time for a dev to find a way. Let's just hope for all of your guys that are not rooted or decided to un root to get 2.2, it's sooner rather than later.
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I am willing to test it when it come out. It's only a phone.
I noticed something interesting when I stopped by the Sprint store yesterday.
There was an older gentleman there purchasing an Evo. I felt a little sad because I knew that poor phone would never get hax'd. The manager instructed the sales person to charge the phone and make sure to run the update after activation.
My guess is that the majority of Evos from this point on will come with Froyo, so I'm sure there will be an effort to root.
I would like to see a one step method to root that has a hundred pages of "Thank You" rather that the hundred pages of problems and explanations I see now.
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I would like to see a one step method to root that has a hundred pages of "Thank You" rather that the hundred pages of problems and explanations I see now.
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then do it yourself.
Did it work? Did they downgrade you?
I'm just wondering if it's safe to rollback the firmware on my Galaxy Tab S 10.5" to the previous one or if it causes some sort of conflict.
I want to do so because I've just installed the most recent one (T800ODD1ANK1 - India) and I can't root it using Cf-Autoroot posted here.
Thanks!
What happens when you try to root it?
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What happens when you try to root it?
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Nothing. I did it with Odin and it just reboots to the same old unrooted tablet. All is working fine as usual, but no root.
What botters me the most is that I had Xposed framework installed but now it has no functionality and all the modules I had installed don't work. I would install the previous firmware but I'm afraid of breaking something, with installing older software on top of newer one.
I was able to root the US version of that ROM (T800XXU1ANK1) using CF Auto Root from Chainfire:
http://download.chainfire.eu/473/CF...uto-Root-chagallwifi-chagallwifixx-smt800.zip
Perhaps give that a shot???
I will but the India version has a more recent changelist (which was the reason why I chose to install it).
Thanks in advance.
As I predicted, since the changelist is different (your version has the same as the older one I had, with functioning root, but not with this one), no root.
Does anyone know if it is safe to install a previous version of the software? Like, for example, Cellular South ANK1 (with an older changelist).
Thanks.
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I was able to root the US version of that ROM (T800XXU1ANK1) using CF Auto Root from Chainfire:
http://download.chainfire.eu/473/CF...uto-Root-chagallwifi-chagallwifixx-smt800.zip
Perhaps give that a shot???
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I'm having the same issue as the original poster. It says I am rooted, but I'm not because root checker just keeps spinning and there isn't a SU# icon in my apps. I've done this with Odin about a million times before, for some reason on my new T800 (after I updated the software), it doesn't work.
Am I missing a step because I have the same version you have? Extract the file. Load the md5 file into AP. Hit Start. Wait for it to reboot. Right?
Yea root isn't working for me with T800XXU1ANK1. =(
Im assuming you ran Super SU and updated the binaries or whatever it asks, or updated the app in playstore?
Ive done nothing different and root works fine.
I was thinking about another root alternative. I was thinking about downloading the supersu zip and save it to the device or sd card. Then flash twrp recovery with odin, then boot into recovery and flash the supersu zip to get root? Could that work as an alternative since it flashes root in the process?
I just rolled back to T800XXU1ANJ6 and I am rooted.
I just bought a Tab S, and I can't seem to find an answer to a question that relates to this thread. Is there any advantage to updating before rooting?
I can't decide if I should root it now or update the software, and then root. After searching some, it appears that it doesn't matter whether I upgrade or not, but I can't seem to find if there is any advantage to updating it then rooting. Like, is it easier to get the latest firmware that way?
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I just bought a Tab S, and I can't seem to find an answer to a question that relates to this thread. Is there any advantage to updating before rooting?
I can't decide if I should root it now or update the software, and then root. After searching some, it appears that it doesn't matter whether I upgrade or not, but I can't seem to find if there is any advantage to updating it then rooting. Like, is it easier to get the latest firmware that way?
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If i am correct, There should be stock custom roms available that are prerooted so you can flash over. As for an ota update, that is faster than being rooted then flashing lollipop rom.
Anyway we have a lollipop rom already built. Its smooth and most things are working. Its really cool and id rather use this than waiting for samsung to get the latest update out. Do you have the 10.5 in or 8.4 inch?
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If i am correct, There should be stock custom roms available that are prerooted so you can flash over. As for an ota update, that is faster than being rooted then flashing lollipop rom.
Anyway we have a lollipop rom already built. Its smooth and most things are working. Its really cool and id rather use this than waiting for samsung to get the latest update out. Do you have the 10.5 in or 8.4 inch?
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I have the wifi 10.5 inch.
So, you are saying update OTA then root, unless I want to jump to Lollipop (which I do), which in that case it doesn't matter so I should just root and flash a lollipop rom?
Thanks for helping me out.
PeterGunz said:
I have the wifi 10.5 inch.
So, you are saying update OTA then root, unless I want to jump to Lollipop (which I do), which in that case it doesn't matter so I should just root and flash a lollipop rom?
Thanks for helping me out.
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Up to you If you want to jump to lollipop/CM12, just run flash Cfautoroot( with odin to root) then install twrp and flash the lollipop rom. There is a thread for cm12/lollipop in the development tab s section.
But wait! Rooting trips knox with voids your warranty. Same users has reported getting service from samsung for free of charge from defective units and some had to pay to get defective parts replaced by samsung. 50/50 chance. I took the risk and havent got a hardbrick or anything yet.
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DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
Up to you If you want to jump to lollipop/CM12, just run flash Cfautoroot( with odin to root) then install twrp and flash the lollipop rom. There is a thread for cm12/lollipop in the development tab s section.
But wait! Rooting trips knox with voids your warranty. Same users has reported getting service from samsung for free of charge from defective units and some had to pay to get defective parts replaced by samsung. 50/50 chance. I took the risk and havent got a hardbrick or anything yet.
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Thank you for the heads-up. I've rooted all 6 of my android phones that I've had, so I'm not too worried about voiding the watrranty. Judging by your reply it sounds like there are a lot of lemons out there for this device. Mine seems to be running okay, but I just can't take all the lag that I assume comes from TW and bloatware. My HTC One M8 with Lollipop seems faster and smoother than my Tab S at stock. Although after typing the last sentence, I put Nova on there and sped up all the animations and it is definitely light years faster than my One M8 now.
I think the answer to the original post is that the Su binary was installed, but the op didn't download then update Super su after rooting. You wont get full root until you do as there is no app to handle root requests.