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Hi, i searched all over... some1 said to me that DeFrost would never likely be on the same ROM as Sense UI as they cancel each other out, I`ve found threads on here sowing the changelogs/bugfixes etc of DeFrost but what are all the PROs / CONs to Defrost ?
whats it got that renders sense UI uselss
thanks
The fact that there is no sense ui in Defrost. But just take a look at the defrost thread, all you need to know about, what it is and what it contains can be found there.
i moved from leedroids to defrost and have to say im impressed, support is amazing, its lighting fast and battery is also great, sense only takes up space and slows down the system.
I currently use defrost and it is fast. Alot faster and smoother then leedroid, however i think im going to go back to a sense rom.
This is for a number of reasons but mainly because of all the widgets and apps and extensions of sense. Once you try to get some of the functionality back that sense offers the rom starts to become as bloated anyway.
It you want sense use a sense rom, if not use a AOSP rom. TBH it is best to try them both out and see which you prefer.
I find that defrost is much faster, assuming you're using launcher pro, its more responsive to the touch... in my case anyway. the only downside to defrost i think is the camera skin... its ugly as hell. I love the camera interface on sense, although the video recording (720p) is much better on defrost.
anddd you can flash so many different kernels to your different needs on defrost, personally i like HAVS 1113 mhz BFS 875mA the best.. but thats only cause my desire can handle the low voltage
DeFrost is better in battery live and speed (of course it is a non-Sense ROM).
Sense ROMs (like LeeDroid) is according to my taste more beautiful and it is somehow like a birthmark of the Desire. The new Sense (HD or Z porting) is even more awesome than the ordinary Sense.
But of course, Sense will drain your battery and resources more than without Sense.
That is why I find it hard to decide which ROM I should use.
I am now on Z ROM...but dunno how long this will last...
Hey everybody!
I just got my G2 yesterday (traded for my mytouch 4G) and I'm loving it. I already downgraded from 2.3.4 and rooted it. Now I'm looking for a good rom. I see some roms that I've used on my Mytouch 4g, but I want to know what the community favorites are. I'm going to flash any random one right now, but based on your suggestions I'll flash a keeper later (and eventually ICS Rom once Wifi and keyboard are fully fixed). Thanks!!!
MIUI, I'm on bulletproof, but looks like its not getting updated anymore, so you might want to go with miui osimood. also MIUI 4.0 (ics) is on the works, so i'm hoping to get that oneday. UI is quite heavily customized, like it or not, i use it.
Check out G-Lite: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1349030
It's fast and stable and battery life is amazing. Also works with TMO wifi calling which was a huge plus for me.
Don't be a fool! Stick with vanilla - all other roms I have ever use suffer from random issues that I constantly had to attend to.
Go with G-lite, it's fantastic. Great battery life, super super fast, great everything.
Im gonna check out g-lite. I've been having problems with every rom I've tried so far...hopefully not this one
You want FAST? Then meXdroidROM is your best bet. Really good ROM!
vikashfoolsu said:
Hey everybody!
I just got my G2 yesterday (traded for my mytouch 4G) and I'm loving it. I already downgraded from 2.3.4 and rooted it. Now I'm looking for a good rom. I see some roms that I've used on my Mytouch 4g, but I want to know what the community favorites are. I'm going to flash any random one right now, but based on your suggestions I'll flash a keeper later (and eventually ICS Rom once Wifi and keyboard are fully fixed). Thanks!!!
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Sense UI is the best as per me, as it is complete in terms of everything, either dialer, message app, gps app, navigation app, social networking, etc.
It has everything and moreover its appearance is soothing to eyes.
The only drawback is that its resource consuming.
But as a solution to that, i used RomCleaner Script. It removes all the unnecessary bloatware from sense roms, however I use a custom cleaning list to leave back the skins and wallpapers and apps that I use.
Use that and If you are running upto sense 3.0 roms that would run smooth without lag even when you are playing 3D games.
However if you are going for sense 3.5 roms then you need to enable swap to have your phone lag free and smooth even when you are playing 3D games.
And following these steps will help you increase your battery life a lot.
I'm using Virtuous Affinity v1.48.0 being a sense fan, and i'm not encountering any lag ever even without overcloaking.
Hope that helps.
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Almost vanilla but glite is the way to go, fast, stable, and awesome battery life!
I'm an obsessive rom tester and this is a summary of what I have found on the G2:
All sense roms: 2/4 features, 1/4 speed
G-lite: 1/4 features, 3/4 speed
Cyanogenmod 7: 3/4 features, 2/4 speed
MIUI.US: 3/4 features, 3/4 speed
ILWT with GoLauncher, ILWT kernel and daemon, OCed to 1.3 GHz: 4/4 features, 4/4 speed
ILWT takes a little bit of tweaking from default (done easily by changing a text file read on the installation of the rom), but out of every rom to grace the G2 forums, this is the only one I've been able to settle down with. Even with the default settings it is a really amazing rom, but with the right tweaks it blows everything else away in terms of speed and functionality.
Many of these roms I have not had a chance to try their most recent version, so I doubt this report has a high degree of accuracy. "Speed" is based on my personal observations and not measured by performance tools. "Features" are highly subjective and based on built-in function and customization.
(Admittedly, I've never tried meXdroidMod because the screenshots make me wish they sold eye bleach.)
Most if not all of the meXdroid eye candy can be turned off It's really really smooth and fast, never had any problems with it and awesome battery life
Good thread! I'd also like to know what everyone's using, as I've got a UK Desire Z that I put Virtuous Unity on, and after a month or so I'm coming away disapointed.
While Sense 3.0 is very nice looking, it's not as slick on the DZ and the ROM in general seems to lag, or totally freeze up too often...like just now, I unlocked the phone, then went to settings and I had to wait around 10 seconds for it go from a black screen with the status bar to actually letting me select the options within settings.
One of the biggest downsides though the lack of landscape in the home screen!
Does anyone know which ROMs actually support having a landscape home screen?
Nitrious 1.4.7 ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1486126
Classic v0.1.0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312414&page=1192
Synergy ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1144447
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1) any pros' and cons' with each one?
2) What Kernels each one is on?
3) which one is more "minimalist" inregards to Apps
4) In order from best to least: Battery Life
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What I need is a ROM with working 4g, GPS and Camera
The phone is used for work.
I drive all over place, putting 100+ miles a day, so GPS is very important for me.
All my jobs are recieved via Google email.
I rather use 4g to pick my gps loc quickly and get load my emails quickly..
At the moment, I have to wait 3-5min for the email to be recieved and/or open to read. My GPS sometimes tells me, can not find my current location and it sucks. TIME is money in my line of work. Every wasteful minutes I can cut off = more money for me.
Camera and Video Recorder is another thing mandatory in my work. Uploading and sending it to corporate. Speed speed speed (4g)
During my drive time - I use my phone as a radio..
work hours - 10-12hrs a day.. so I need a rom that will benefit me the most.
I make alot of phone calls, alot of emailing, uploading pics and videos (short under 1min). I tend to stay on 4g as much as I can before I switch to 3g or turn it off during downtimes. I would like to have 4g on all day (10-12hr) before recharging. I do have a recharger in my car though, so I would say there is atleast 1-2hrs worth of charge time during my working hours.
I was told to check these 3 roms out but can't see what the difference are.
thank you in advance.
Well. I can only speak on Nitrous as I haven't tried the others. But I will say, if you aren't concerned about having the prettiest toy, its a great one. Very smooth. Expect a stock type of rom with alot of CPU speed tweaks baked in. Very similar to the stock in terms of what it gives you visually. Some nice little graphical changes but nothing impressive.
Its very good for what you are looking for. I never had a problem with the GPS. Battery life was about on par with stock. But I would recommend rom toolbox pro and under clocking the kernel .
I actually always keep this rom on my SD in case something happens crazy with the current one. That way I can always flash back to something minimalistic and stable. Give it a shot...
...I must let you know tho CM9 has been very stable for me as well and you get 4.0.4 opposed to Nitrous 2.3.5
CM9 is so far the best rom I've flashed so far. Only downside is battery life has been iffy at best.
Give MIUI from swiper a try also. 2.3.2 was very nice. Stay away from MIUI ICS builds. They've been quite buggy for me so far.
Hope that helps. GL
With less clutter here than your other thread, I will throw a loop:
Try Cyanogenmod 7.2 everything works nearly flawless. I use gps status app, and if you need more accuracy use galandy's gps fix (search for these).
You do need to flash gapps as well, for your google services. Just download the rom and gapps from cyanogenmod.com
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I don't agree with trying 7.2 cynogenmod, a great rom, but wouldn't be good for your situation. 7.2 is a AOSP rom which doesn't give you the capability of updating your prl, which should be a priority if your traveling and on the go. Out of the three roms, synergy is outdated and the developers have moved on. Classic 0.1.0 is a optimized base rom that is strippped down and meant for performance. If you like a stock feel, definitely a good choice. Nitrous is a 1.0 sense rom that's very fast, would be my choice of the three. If you want my opinion, I wouldn't choose any of the three. Go with a senseless 1.0 rom, which has sense stripped out. This gives you more internal memory, faster speeds, and makes for a fast phone. Here's my choices based on the public's opinion of what is the best out right now for our EVO.
1. senseless - Alter RC2 rom
2. sense - tommytomatoes finale
3. AOSP - Deck's Reloaded
I simply flash 00001.prl by tecknowfile.
Prl's are fairly universal imo
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Simple enough then, jump on the bandwagon and get Deck's Reloaded .44, definitely fastes rom on our evo at the moment, has working 4G, and all the google apps are inverted black to give a sexy sleek feel.
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Well. I can only speak on Nitrous as I haven't tried the others. But I will say, if you aren't concerned about having the prettiest toy, its a great one. Very smooth. Expect a stock type of rom with alot of CPU speed tweaks baked in. Very similar to the stock in terms of what it gives you visually. Some nice little graphical changes but nothing impressive.
Its very good for what you are looking for. I never had a problem with the GPS. Battery life was about on par with stock. But I would recommend rom toolbox pro and under clocking the kernel .
I actually always keep this rom on my SD in case something happens crazy with the current one. That way I can always flash back to something minimalistic and stable. Give it a shot...
...I must let you know tho CM9 has been very stable for me as well and you get 4.0.4 opposed to Nitrous 2.3.5
CM9 is so far the best rom I've flashed so far. Only downside is battery life has been iffy at best.
Give MIUI from swiper a try also. 2.3.2 was very nice. Stay away from MIUI ICS builds. They've been quite buggy for me so far.
Hope that helps. GL
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you lost me when you said 4.0.4 vs 2.3.5 - IDK wtf ur talking about.
isnt CM9 - AOSP?
what is MIUI? ICS?
also, what does toolbox Pro do and how do I underclock a kernel? (App? if so, name)
JollyGrnReefer said:
I don't agree with trying 7.2 cynogenmod, a great rom, but wouldn't be good for your situation. 7.2 is a AOSP rom which doesn't give you the capability of updating your prl, which should be a priority if your traveling and on the go. Out of the three roms, synergy is outdated and the developers have moved on. Classic 0.1.0 is a optimized base rom that is strippped down and meant for performance. If you like a stock feel, definitely a good choice. Nitrous is a 1.0 sense rom that's very fast, would be my choice of the three. If you want my opinion, I wouldn't choose any of the three. Go with a senseless 1.0 rom, which has sense stripped out. This gives you more internal memory, faster speeds, and makes for a fast phone. Here's my choices based on the public's opinion of what is the best out right now for our EVO.
1. senseless - Alter RC2 rom
2. sense - tommytomatoes finale
3. AOSP - Deck's Reloaded
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this helped me out alot. also I thought AOSP doesnt have a working 4g or was it Cynmod
you have me intriqued with the senseless 1.0 rom. I could care less for bloat apps and other bs. So the less, the better. With that said, senseless 1.0 = senseless - Alter RC2 rom???
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With even LESS clutter, read the threads and SEE what the differences are
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I've read each one of them, 2 of them doesnt tell me what kernel they are running and other the info that is stated, I have no idea what it means. It's not like I kept up with all the lingo and terms since I was here last time.
Last thing I remember was Gingerbread coming out.
Also, 1.5 yrs ago, each rom had a detail info of what they had. What apps they added, removed, etc... now not so much.
im slowly re-learning what is new in the evo 4g world.
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you lost me when you said 4.0.4 vs 2.3.5 - IDK wtf ur talking about.
isnt CM9 - AOSP?
what is MIUI? ICS?
also, what does toolbox Pro do and how do I underclock a kernel? (App? if so, name)
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4.04 is icecream sandwiched while 2.3.5 is gingerbread
Cm9 is based off ice cream sandwich(4.xx)
Cm7 is based off gingerbread (2.3x)
Tommy finale is based off gingerbread and so is any sense based Rom for the EVO. No ics for awhile
Miui has both an ice cream version and gingerbread version. You're going to have to search that. In order to over and underclock the CPU, you need a custom kernel. If you use tommys Rom (my current setup) I would use the underground kernel by ca1ne. ROM tool box will help with that. Or system tuner. Another good app
Here's the kernel thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1570308
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Sorry bud for the lack of a good explanation. These guys are all correct in directing you to the rom that would suit you best. Especially the last post. I was trying to say to stay away from miui ics for the time being. It's been quite buggy and laggy even with mason kernel compared to team dirts CM9. Mini is great and easy but stuck to a gingerbread base if you like it.
grrgrrgrr said:
this helped me out alot. also I thought AOSP doesnt have a working 4g or was it Cynmod
you have me intriqued with the senseless 1.0 rom. I could care less for bloat apps and other bs. So the less, the better. With that said, senseless 1.0 = senseless - Alter RC2 rom???
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Senseless just means that Rosie is stripped out of the rom which takes up to much space and memory. Alter rom comes with Go Launcher Ex baked in as the launcher, but you can choose any launcher your comfortable with. The only reason why I recommend Alter rom is because it is the fastest/snappiest senseless rom available. Using a2sd, I was using less than 60 MB internal space. Great for gaming and battery life. Graynode is the developer and is releasing 1.0 later this week, but RC2 is worth it. Just to clarify, it is a 1.0 sense based rom, similar to what came stock on your Evo, but the Rosie and everything sense has been stripped out of it, hence the name "senseless".
I will like to know as I am looking forward to go CM9 from GB
Sense ROMs have HTC Sense interface, Senseless ROMs don't.
Senseless just doesn't have sense.
No offense Just sayin ok
Sense is good looking, laggy, hangs most the time and so.
Senseless is better, little bad looking may be, but better battery and performance.
In senseless roms U would miss Internet pass-through(connect ur phone to internet via PC) and some widgets
hellnoob said:
I will like to know as I am looking forward to go CM9 from GB
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Sense is a commercial GUI offered by HTC.
It's the most visually stunning GUI for our phones, in my humble opinion.
Unfortunately, with all that beauty comes some overhead: lots of widgets and RAM-intensive processes that are always running (although not always used) so, yes, there *sometimes* is some performance degradation (but most folks don't notice/care).
"Sense-less" ROMs is an ambiguous term. It can mean 1 of 2 things:
1) ROMs that once were Sense-based but have since been modified to remove the Sense UI (my WildChild ROM is an example of this, so is jermzii's ROM, and possibly others). The benefit here is the visual glory of *most* Sense UI artefacts is retained, without all the bloat of the Sense launcher (called Rosie) and associated widgets. Also, everything still works under a Sense-less ROM of this nature. That includes the camera, proximity sensors, speedy graphics rendering, WiFi, and all the crap that you'd expect to work under any given ROM.
2) ROMs that were built from the ground-up without Sense. There are tons of ROMs like this, but probably the most famous for our phone is CyanogenMod (and any of its derivatives). Frankly, they all look ugly as sin (to me) and typically you'll find features that don't work as well (or not at all!) as the original Sense ROM. The trade-off here is that you lose beauty and some functionality in favour of being able to "get behind the scenes" and tweak things you couldn't normally tweak on the stock ROM. Although, as any decent dev here will tell you, there's nothing you can do with CM7 that you can't do with a properly modified Sense ROM. (With the possible exception, of course, of running apps that were designed solely for the CM7 framework).
Hope that answer helped you,
I'm kinda new in this topic so I'm sory for this stupid question: Do all Tegra games work well on ROMs like PARANOIDANDROID? Does even the gaming performance depend on ROM?
krzychuz said:
I'm kinda new in this topic so I'm sory for this stupid question: Do all Tegra games work well on ROMs like PARANOIDANDROID? Does even the gaming performance depend on ROM?
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I don't know PARANOIDANDROID, but I can tell you that the gaming performance (and in general, the system performance) doesn't depend directly from the Roms, but it should depends from the kernel mounted into the Roms.
The kernel is the heart of the system, and it directly manages the components of the phone.
At this moment only the ICS Roms mount "modified" kernels with great performance...the JB Roms hasn't "modified" kernels yet (only default HTC kernel).