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[Q] Is there any sense in using Sense? =]

I mean, what will I lose if I choose to use a rom without sense?
Do I get less battery drain?

you'll lose:
Sense Launcher, Sense Widgets - this can be fully replaced by Launcher Plus Pro, or, if you don't like the look of Sense Widgets by ADW.Launcher
Sense programs, like mail, calendar, ...
FM Radio
HTC Sync - you won't be able to sync your Desire calendar with Outlook directly any longer. You'll have to buy third party software to do this via the Google cloud or you use an Exchange Server.
Because the HTC Froyo source got released now, as it seems, you'll also be able to undervolt Sense ROMs now.
However, non Sense ROMs are lighter, more customized and contain some essential features which I miss on Sense ROMs: Bluetooth HID support.

Why get rid of sense?, its amazing!!!

you will also loose htc dialer and htc contacts

I love sense because of the widgets I keep it for that.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Agreed. I love everything about sense. It makes the phone great. If I wanted senseless I could have bought an N1.

Sense is the reason desire is the best smart phone! I would not dream having a smartphone without it...
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Sense is very nice but I see that there are many roms that don't contain it. So, I was wondering if it realy is neasecery, or what is better in a non-sense rom, and if a non-sense rom is less hungry for battery

I have two Desires - one has a Sense ROM and the other is running CyanogenMod. There are one or two small things I prefer about the CyanogenMod ROM, but a great deal more I prefer about Sense, but there are others on this forum who will tell you the opposite, and be equally correct because it is just an opinion.
One thing I will say though is that you will often hear that non-Sense ROMs are "faster" than Sense ROMs. In my experience, if there is a speed difference, you can only really tell in benchmarks - in general use I feel my Sense phone is every bit as fast as my CyanogenMod phone. The same is true on battery life - both seem to sip about the same amount of power.
I don't think there is any real alternative other than trying out a non-Sense ROM for yourself and making your own choice.
Regards,
Dave

You can undervolt Sense roms of course. Also now with S-Off you can remove the Sense apps you dont need easily from the phone.
After playing with a non-Sense rom I am back to a Sense one mainly because I cold not live with the battery drain and I can now customize the Sense apps.
On Alex 1.7 and with light use I can almost go 3 days on a battery... with a non-Sense rom I could barely make 24-36h (wipe before flash and few apps installed, no sync), so it's clear in my case which rom type drains more battery.
Also this Alex 1.7 Sense rom is smooth as silk and I never get any apps or the whole phone crashing (daily occurence in aosp rom for many people?).
Aosp roms are great if you like messing around with your phone all the time, but you cant get away with the fact that Sense roms just work.
Respect to all the rom makers Sense or non.Sense.

Thanks for all the responses, you helped a lot =]

Nutsonfire said:
After playing with a non-Sense rom I am back to a Sense one mainly because I cold not live with the battery drain and I can now customize the Sense apps.
On Alex 1.7 and with light use I can almost go 3 days on a battery... with a non-Sense rom I could barely make 24-36h (wipe before flash and few apps installed, no sync), so it's clear in my case which rom type drains more battery.
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Mhh, something wasn't working properly then. With very light use I can also get 3 days battery life.
Else it's difficult to compare, because it heavily depends on how you use the phone. Playing around, surfing, ... drastically reduces battery life.
However, at the moment I use DeFroST 5.0 with HAVS kernel and the battery life looks perfect to me.
Nutsonfire said:
Also this Alex 1.7 Sense rom is smooth as silk and I never get any apps or the whole phone crashing (daily occurence in aosp rom for many people?).
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Should be fixed now. AOSP roms had a few issues, but at it seems as if they're ironed out.
Nutsonfire said:
Aosp roms are great if you like messing around with your phone all the time, but you cant get away with the fact that Sense roms just work.
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Somehow true, sometimes, but sense roms also have bugs often, and a not working revision, which gets fixed in the next release.
So if you want a stable ROM use the stock. If you want some customization, use a custom sense rom. If you don't use sense features, replaced it with other apps/widgets/tools, and need some AOSP rom features, then get an AOSP rom.

i dont have a Desire atm, but i plan on getting one soon (or possibly the DHD). I like sense, especially the new one which allows you to theme it. But something i've noticed with sense compared to stock is that HTC have removed a lot of animations. Like when opening an app or closing it. It instantly opens or closes with no animation. Stock android has a sort of zoom in zoom out animations.
From what i understand, HTC have set the options to "Some animations" in the settings by default. Could someone here go into Settings, Sound and Display, Animations, and set it to All Animations and report here if they see any changes?

htc contacts, gallery , dialer , camera and video , radio, weather ,friendstream are light years and galaxies far away from the aosp android ones...

Rate your tested roms

I didn't found any threads like this one so i decided to make one.
This thread is realy simply. Tell us what roms you have tested, your experience with them and your rating. (0-10/10 rating system)
My Tested roms so far (only one lol)
Leedroid 2.2e:
This sense rom works like a charm for me , Never had a force close or random restart. Only have had one laggy moment that was about 3 sec long.
My score: 9.8/10
Only got my desire yesterday, so haven't been able to test other roms so far. planning on test ALL desire roms tonight

Leedroid 2.2e 9/10
RCMixHD 11 5/10
RCTouch .02 7/10 if Camera worked 10/10
DeFrost 5.9 4/10
MIUI 10.22 7/10
Cyanogenmod 6 3/10

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Leedroid 2.2e 9/10
RCMixHD 11 5/10
RCTouch .02 7/10 if Camera worked 10/10
DeFrost 5.9 4/10
MIUI 10.22 7/10
Cyanogenmod 6 3/10
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Would love if you could tell what you like/dislike about the different roms

Cyanogenmod 6 - (5/10)
I found myself wanting to install CM as soon as I rooted my desire, but the nightlies just weren't cutting it for me, just a few FC's and GPS errors at the wrong times made this ROM very unstable for me... Last I flashed was somewhere around September 20th I love the features being implimented and I look forward to a real stable release​
Pre-rooted Stock Froyo (2.10.405.2) (9/10)
This rom was the only other rom I have installed and LOVE it, with all the "optional mods" I have fine tuned and tweaked the stock ROM to exactly what I think it should be, (Deodexed Mod, A2SD+, POWERSAVING MODPACK, Super Circle Battery Mod, etc...) along with Launcher Pro and the HTC dialer, the only thing is the speed, but its not too noticable... a very good stable stock rom!​

DeFroST, OD and cm6: 10
All that sense rubbish: 0
Simply because the cyanogenmod mods will blow your brains out.
*******Sense fans - don't flame me, just my option that everyone is entitled to********

42turkeys said:
DeFroST, OD and cm6: 10
All that sense rubbish: 0
Simply because the cyanogenmod mods will blow your brains out.
*******Sense fans - don't flame me, just my option that everyone is entitled to********
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Is Cyanogenmod realy that good? tryed the beta on wildfire and it was really bad :/

Stock Sense ROM: 6/10 - Stable, Sense (htc sync) - great for starters, but no BT HID support, no A2SD+, no customization
Other Sense ROMs: 8/10 - Same as stock sense with a few tweaks which makes it pretty good and usable. However, the important thing, BT HID, remains unchanged. It's also bloated with Sense which advanced users don't really use any longer, so I don't see a sense in Sense any longer
CyanogenMod: 5/10 - Customizable, BT HID support, but bloated with pre-installed apps and poor Desire support. It also lacks, as all AOSP Roms do a good Desire - Outlook synchronization.
OpenDesire: 7/10 - Better than native CM, BT HID, better Desire support, won't be updated in the future
DeFroST: 9/10 - Much better than CM, not bloated, reduced to the basic apps, totally customizable, HAVS Kernel, lots of themes and stable, BT HID. Why not 10 points? General AOSP issue with sync, and the update rate is really high and a lot of updates aren't stable. So you have to be careful in flashing the latest ROMs and maybe skip one, two, or three updates until you get a stable again. It's a ROM for tech lovers, to play around with the Desire and maximizing its use.

I was running the latest stable version of Defost when I first rooted my desire. I could only score it maybe a 5/10 as it wouldn't send MMS msgs and wouldn't connect to my cars Bluetooth system?
Went over to Cyanogen and all my issues were resolved. Cyanogen 8/10, it would get 10/10 but I sometimes get the occasional phone rebooting on it's own?
Also how many of you guys have used the Alpharev to S-off your devices? Should I go for it?
HTC Desire. Cyanogen 6.0.2. S-ON

OpenDesire not updated anymore?
UpSpin said:
OpenDesire: 7/10 - Better than native CM, BT HID, better Desire support, won't be updated in the future
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Thanks for the input. Just curious: how do you know that OpenDesire won't be updated anymore?

@x5starguerillaa
As always, there's no perfect rom for each user. Some love that others this. I don't use MMS, an overpriced piece of junk in my opinion. SMS useless already, however, not everyone has a Smartphone, else I just use E-Mail. So I never noticed that something isn't working. That's why I don't complain
I have S-OFF, but never used the received freedom. Hadn't a use for it yet.
So no, it's not necessary, do it only if you really need it.
@Wekkel
Read in following order:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8439017&postcount=7387
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8503351&postcount=7744
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8502826&postcount=7731
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8439336&postcount=7397

OpenDesire update query
Thanks. To me, it seems OD will be made a bare ROM and that updates will still be pushed via the included update_program.
Just trying to figure out whether Android 2.3 will be slipstreamed into OD at a certain moment

@ UpSpin.
Thanks for the info on S-Off. I suppose if I get more advanced then I may go ahead but I shall leave it for now.
And on Defrost Vs Cyanogen; I probably would have stuck with defrost had it not been for the Bluetooth issue. The customization options on defrost were better and installing different kernel's and stuff was a breeze thanks to its UI. I would go back to it if there was a workaround to fix my Bluetooth connectivity? Do you know of one?
HTC Desire. Cyanogen 6.0.2. S-ON

Can't decided on what non sense Rom to use. Maybe Miui if it had Swedish dictonary.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

Sense HD 10/10
MIUI 9/10
But I love Sense UI, hence why I got a Desire instead of a Nexus.
Sent from my HTC Desire

LeeDrOiD 2.2x
For sure the best Sense Rom - pretty stable and very well maintained. Great Community plus Website and people who care about it. I dislike Sense (see below), so i give it
8/10
MIUI 10.x
Interessting aspects of different GUI Design, nice approach, and a "must have seen" rom. Unfortunatly not my taste, since i like functionality as much as design
7/10
DeFrost
Obviously much love and work in it, but i hate to say i was disappointed. Where is the good stuff of cyanogenmod? Poor shell, no dropbear(sshd), not even htop? Hey, i am a linux freak, if you take away all the great linux stuff from cyanogenmod, what is left?
5/10
CyanogenMod 6.1 / nightlys
One word: Awsome!
Android 2.2.1, which none of the sense roms features
Aditional functionality like the notification-powerbar
insanely fast. if you are used to sense, you first go "wow, why is everything so smooth and fast?", if you play 3d games, you go "wow, why do i have no lags anymore and a stable framerate?", if you watch video from your cifs-server with arcmedia, you go "wow, why do videos start so fast, and why is skipping in the video not lagging like hell?"
i know all you guys love sense soooo much, but face it, sense is pure crap from system design view, looks nice, yes, but nothing you cannot replace with an even better app from the market. you get the weather clock widget, far better email apps and everything you miss on sense.
so the downside is (based on personal taste) missing some sense stuff, but the upside is always latest android, extreme speed, stability and the biggest community of all roms. not only one dev repackaging some htc stuff, but a whole crew compiling their own stuff. go for it!
10/10

Best Sense ROM:
LeeDroid 2.2x - used it since 2.2a, and haven't had an issue since. First few days will be a bit slow while it rebuilds its cache, but after that is smooth sailing. Left it because... I found out I don't need HTC Sense. Other Sense ROM that I've tried = MoDaCo, which wasn't as smooth or feature packed as LeeDroid.
Best AOSP ROM:
DeFrost is my personal favourite AOSP ROM. I have tried OpenDesire 4.0.36 and Cyanogen 6.0.1, but I kinda prefer DeFrost setup and it's overall look and feel. Definitely fast and smooth, IMO. And I love LauncherPro too
Final words; there are things in HTC Sense that you might not notice until it's gone, like the blue notification LED, text reflow, Friendstream (yes, I think it's better than the Facebook app), and having a the stock HTC settings (I answer a lot of questions in another forum, you see...) so sometimes I miss LeeDroid too

LeeDroid:
Best sense rom out there, but personally I prefer nonsense 10/10 for stability and great design though, if sense is your thing
MIUI:
I want to like it, I want to use it, but the lack of an app drawer in the main launcher is a real killer, and needs ext4 supporting, stable app2sd. 7/10 for now, will be 11/10 when those 2 things are fixed
Cyanogenmod: great rom, havent used since 6.0 though as I prefer defrost. still a 9/10 for great features/stability and support
Defrost: The best, most stable one out there in my opinion! has all the great features of cyanogenmod, a great OTA update system, and does everything I want it to. I always go back to it after trying others out

Miui -- Best battery life I have ever experienced.
Cyanogen -- Most stable.

celestialspring said:
Miui hands down. Best battery life I have ever experienced.
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Cyanogen 6.1, five and a half hours of sleep, 2% battery drain. Does miui use less?
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mad-murdock said:
Cyanogen 6.1, five and a half hours of sleep, 2% battery drain. Does miui use less?
Sent from my S-OFF'd brain using teh internetz
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I lost like 1% overnight 10hrs plus (wifi / gps / bt switched off)
but have now moved to cyanogen as Miui did not let me choose which account I wanted to add a new contact to. May be there is a way.

Recommendations for rom and kernel...

I'm not trying to be lazy here, but due to being in school, two part time jobs, a family of four, etc...I was hoping to crowd source some recommendations or what to steer clear of for custom rooms and kernels for the Droid Incredible. I am rooted and have been for a while, and have attempted to do some custom cleaning up by way of root manager and titanium backup, etc., but to be honest, I don't have the time to get into the self management too much due to the life stresses I listed above.
Basically I am looking for something that is of good speed performance without sacrificing battery life and possibly improving it (I know, we don't live in a perfect world, but it's worth a shot) along with getting rid of the crapware that HTC shoves down your throat.
I am now on the stock froyo with HTC sense and of course I want good app compatibility too. I am also a sucker for eye candy, so it doesn't have to have the sense UI but I do like a bit of UI intuitiveness and pleasant to the eye.
Obviously I am on a Droid Incredible, rooted with stock froyo and sense UI, as I've already said.
Recommendations are greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Roger

Well, there really isn't anything to "steer clear" of. What I would recommend is trying a few sense roms, AOSP roms, and MIUI.
If you like sense roms, I would recommend
Warm 2.2 if you like the theme (though if you like MMS there's a problem about mms and wifi)
Uber Z if you like Z roms (pastel button in bottom right, also faster)
Nothing Special if you want to stay stock
Ziggy's 1/21 kernel with BFS (note that he makes new ones quite frequently)
If you like AOSP, I would definitely only recommend CM7 (CyanogenMod 7) with the stock kernel. I haven't tried any other kernels but I've found the stock kernel gives very smooth and snappy performance but still has good battery.
If you like MIUI, I would recommend the "real" MIUI. It's updated very frequently. I can't really recommend a good kernel because I don't like MIUI much (personal preference, some hate it but some like it). Just use your favorite AOSP kernel because MIUI is just a themed AOSP rom.
Hope this helps

Thanks for the insight.
I am thinking an AOSP, as you recommend Cyanogenmod 7, because I am interested in trying some different UI flavors. As I said, I am a sucker for eye candy, so if there is something really dazzling then all the better; however, my main concern is hopefully a little battery improvement, and getting rid of all the crapware bloat that they hold you hostage with. I don't Facebook AT ALL, I very seldom look at Twitter, and I could give a rat's ass about City ID, or Footprints, or Foursquare, and whatever else there is. I don't knock any of them and I know many do use them, but my theory is, if I want it then I'll install it, otherwise I want it the hell out of sight and out of mind! LOL
While I do agree the HTC Sense UI is the better of the market options for smart phones, but I've also heard from Leo Laporte that the straight Android OS features are also nice and allow for better streamlining, and I know there are others here too. So as I said, I'm always up for a new paint job on the Ole Hot Rod, but not if it is gonna make it where I can't pass a gas station anymore.
I appreciate the recommendations, and I'm probably gonna attempt this later this afternoon or this evening, so any other suggestions in the meantime are greatly appreciated. I just don't have the time to endless hours flashing and testing, and re-flashing and testing, blah, blah, blah.
Thanks Again,
Roger

ROMs
Hello, I am pretty new to ROMs however I have just started and am currently running warm z twopointtwo and so far I love it. The only problem I have had so far is not being able to set up the HTC account to see the new download options with the new sense. Other than that it is fast and smooth. I love the upgrade from sense 1.0.
I have also tried CM7. It was nice and smooth and fast, however at the time I was still in the mind set of loving the sense UI. I have also tried incredibly re-engineered. That was very nice as well but to me it wasn't a big enough change.
If some one can tell me how to get an HTC account for the warm z twopointtwo I would ukky recommend that. As far as installing ROMs I have done it through Rom manager and found it to be easy. I would recommend doing it through clockwork however as some roms didn't act right through a Rom manager install. Just make sure the Rom does not specify a different file for the different clockwork versions. In the case of warm z there is two versions to choose from depending on which CWM you are running.
Have fun
Edit: also do a Google search for incredible roms. There was a page that had a list of roms and mods and such. Something to look into.

Try warm z or inc re-engineered
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what do you like the most about sense? You can get most of the features from sense via Widgets if you look hard enough. I initially had trouble switching to an AOSP rom until I found the stuff to replace what i missed from sense.

I think what I like most is the extra widgets. For instance the calendar widget that is 4x1 i use on my home screen for a quick glance at what I have next on my schedule. It's not a feal breaker by anymeans. And the more I look at aosp roms the more I consider them.

Actually I don't use all the widget junk from the sense UI, like twitter and people and such. I guess what I meant was the phone dialer and multiple home pages, and in that sense (no pun intended) I could really stand to see a little better integration and design of the contacts portion.
However...aside from not being a Facebook'er, I would love to be able to utilize some fancy widgets if i were to be lucky enough to fall onto a rom and kernel that drastically improved on the existing sucky battery life.

Smooth calendar is free and gives you the same functionality. More customizable as well. I used it until I realized I never have anything on my calendar. I live through outlook at work and outside of work I dont really operate on a schedule.
Like I said, there are plenty of Widgets that will give the same function of any of the sense widgets. I've seen way, way better battery life out of cm7/incredikernel

rcklesslydriven said:
The only problem I have had so far is not being able to set up the HTC account to see the new download options with the new sense. Other than that it is fast and smooth. I love the upgrade from sense 1.0.
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You should be able to set up an HTC account in setup. That's what I did.
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As far as aosp, I believe Evervolv is a solid option. Not sure if its still actively being developed but I ran it for awhile not long ago and it seemed solid
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I've found this to be a pretty sufficient replacement for sense on AOSP:
Sense = AOSP + Lense or Rotary lockscreen + CM7 Sense Theme + ADW Sense Theme + Fancy Widget Pro + Smooth Calendar + Pure Calendar + Pure Grid Calendar + Pure Music (when it starts to work on CM7) + Phantom Music Control (until Pure Music is fixed) + Pure Messenger + Dialer One.
Quite a list. Some of the Pure widgets can be skipped if you don't use them (probably only choose one of the calendar widgets, maybe even neither if you like smooth calendar more for example). All in all this combo takes maybe half an hour to set up and costs a few dollars but all in all IMHO time and money well spent.

Stability is key
I'm big fan of constant flashing. It's hard to ever just choose one, but in the end battery life and stability is key. Eye candy is also a good thing. If you like Sense UI I would recommend Incredible Re-Engineered, it's a great little ROM, although it has some MMS issues, but that may be GVoice based and nothing more. Magnolia is also stable and I find myself constantly going back to it because of that.
As for an AOSP ROM I've never had much luck with any CM version, however UltimateDroid is nice and flashy and very customizable. It has some minor stability issues with data connections, but I've found that with most AOSP builds. I can't speak about the MIUI ROMs as I'm not a fan of the Apple interface, so I don't bother to test out the iDroid ROMs.
In the end, honestly their is no real winner because every phone is different. Your best bet is to use some prebuilt lists such as Android Candy or The Incredible List. ROMs and Kernels are ever evolving and the only one to find what works best is you. So spend an hour downloading ROMs one night and flash one a day and see what works best for you.

Well...looks like CM7 & Incredikernel are the show winners.
I'll be even more impressed when I can open &/save pics and attachments from my yahoo mail app.
In the meantime...this is pretty slick, the new UI and features are almost like getting a new phone. If I had the 4.3" screen then I would almost consider relinquishing my wife upcoming upgrade back to her. Lol
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I installed incredibly re-engineered 2.3.2 last night and I love all the tweeks. But, I still prefer the launcher pro launcher. Would I be better off going with a AOSP rom like CM7? Was thinking if I'm going to use the vanilla style launcher anyway it might be a better fit. Went with Incredibly Re-Engineered because of stability and speed. Have never had a vanilla rom installed so not sure what I'd get into. First flash went seamlessly so feeling a bit curious to try some more things out.

kylemert said:
I installed incredibly re-engineered 2.3.2 last night and I love all the tweeks. But, I still prefer the launcher pro launcher. Would I be better off going with a AOSP rom like CM7? Was thinking if I'm going to use the vanilla style launcher anyway it might be a better fit. Went with Incredibly Re-Engineered because of stability and speed. Have never had a vanilla rom installed so not sure what I'd get into. First flash went seamlessly so feeling a bit curious to try some more things out.
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You can desensitize (there's a script somewhere) the rom so that you can use Launcher Pro with the Sense overall feel.

I too love Incredibly Re-engineered. For eye candy, AOSP ROMs have always struck me as barren. Not to mention quirky. I've yet to lay finger on a version of CM that wasn't overtly quirky... kinda like a BlackBerry OS. And the concept of going stripped AOSP then spending time and MONEY to get it where a sense ROM is seems... senseless? If you've got a Ti Backup you'd like to restore whole or in part, plus just logging in, arranging your desktops, and tweaking setting, you're already putting in a decent time investment I know I don't relish repeating trying to find a ROM I like.
Gotta remember too that there are oodles of good kernels (and some real lousy ones) out there that can make a tight sense ROM as fast or faster and as good or better on the battery as an average AOSP ROM. Good choices, even with a stock ROM, would be Lou's, Chad's, Ziggy's (if you don't mind stupid-slow wake-up speeds), and my personal favorite, the Hydra Kernels.

You could also do something like ADW EX from the market. That's what I do because most of the time I prefer sense. Then there is the times I want to theme my phone and have more settings. That's where ADW comes in. Just a thought.
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IncrediblyRe-Engineered v-2.30 leave the kernel it comes with been through many this ones fastest and everything works for me its a Sprint-Evo port for Inc love the free hotspot feature and lots of different themes etc though blacklist on the boring cm7 is great if you've got creditors after you MIUI is awesome too especially if you like the iPhone display though charging your battery becomes all to frequent

So...I'm really liking CM7 with the different and extensive UI features, and though I'm not getting the battery life I thought I was, Incredikernel is alright, I suppose...at least there isn't any performance degradation.
Something that's got me confused though...I never paid any attention before, until I started playing with all this hacking, but everything, including the Rom and apps and everything is going onto the SdCard and I'm running out of storage after I download a couple podcast, let alone that I obviously want to keep exploring new apps.
I was under the assumption that all "installs" of any kind would hit the internal storage first by default and then the SdCard was just extra storage for the most part. Especially since I'm always seeing folks wanting to move an app to the card. Nevertheless, its an 8gb card so I wouldn't have thought it would fill that fast anyway.
So am I missing something here, or is there maybe a hiccup in something I've done? I have been searching the threads for some storage issues I seen when I first started lurking around here, but now of course I can't find them to save my life, and I unfortunately don't have the time to read threads for days on end. Can anyone point me in thebright direction?
Thanks,
Roger
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[Q] What ROM would you reccomend for me based on:

Hi, I have not changed ROMs in a while. I used to have Skyraider Vanilla and now I have Senseless Revolution. While I like my current ROM, after like 2 months of stableness, I got a boot-loop and had to restore (and I lost quite a bit). So, I now want a new ROM. But, there are soooooo many choices. While I would like to try them all, I was wondering if you guys could recommend me a few based on my preferences:
-Stability: I want a ROM that is very stable--no boot loops!
-Battery Life: I want a ROM/kernel that gets good battery life.
-Performance: I want something pretty fast, but speed is not a top priority for me.
-Features: I really am not into all of the fancy aesthetics. I don't use widgets and I use Launcher Pro. So, I guess I don't need/want a Sense ROM.
-Random: I really like a black notification bar, so anything that has the ability to have one is preferred.
Overall, I guess I just want something very simple with good battery life and pretty good speed. If you guys could recommend a few ROMs/kernels to try out I would be very appreciative. Thanks!

Honestly, I had skyraider 3.2 sense for months and I finally made the switch to Cyanogenmod 7 nightly and I've been so happy about it. Only a few kinks here and there but nothing a reboot can't fixed. RC2 just got announced as well for it and it's pretty stable. Battery life on it has been awesome as well, but I use set cpu for underclocking and screen off profiles.
Key notes: Very fast rom, no 720p camera.

I second CM7 for what your looking for.

Thanks guys, I was looking into those and they look good for my preferences! However, I am confused--what is the difference between Cyanogen Mod 7 and CM7 Nightlies?

Cheesejam said:
Thanks guys, I was looking into those and they look good for my preferences! However, I am confused--what is the difference between Cyanogen Mod 7 and CM7 Nightlies?
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CM7 = CyanogenMod 7, so no difference there.
Nightlies just refers to the fact that releases are pushed out (or I should say, were pushed out) every night.
If you flash the newest nightly then you are flashing the most recent upgrades/fixes/etc, but you also risk a slight chance that an instability has been recently introduced. For example, on a recent nightly, GPS problems cropped up, but then they were fixed a day or two after they were discovered.
The RC's are the Release Candidates. They are supposed to be stable releases that could potentially be the "final product." RC2, however, the last RC for CM7, had mixed results in the community. I'd say you're better off flashing the most recent nightly.

MAGNOLIA (Desensitized!)
With either the stock kernel or HeyItsLou's kernel (for stability/battery life)
I am running this desensitized (LauncherPro Plus user here) but with Ziggy's kernel (I like to overclock) and have NO bootloops. It is fast because it is re-engineered, and it is even faster after desensitizing!
Even with my overclocking habits, I consistently get 6 hours of UPTIME with heavy use, and 7 if you bump charge and turn the screen down a bit
Pros: It has 720p video recording, a redone "Matte Sense" theme, which means its not flashy, but very nice on the eyes!
CM7 is nice, but I had many, many bootloops on RC2 and the nightlies around that time.

I use a combination of CM7RC1 and incredikernel 2.6.37.4. I also use Go Launcher EX. ADW is just so darn slow for some reason. Plus I like the scrollable dock. It also reduces the need for an app manager and task killer cuz it does all those built into the app drawer. So far no reboots or freezes. And only so far PDANet was crashing, but I just reinstalled it and all was fine. Other than that this setup has been more smooth than OG Sense.

[Q] What rom do you use? Looking to try a few different ones out :)

Hi there
So quite simply, what rom do you use and what's great about it and what's not so good?
I've got ARHD at the moment, rock stable, battery is good (it usually idles at about 3ma) and has the ability to over/under clock.
I'm thinking of trying some form of CM7, but which one? What do you think of rcmix? I need a rom that's good enough for every day use (not experimental, I will still be calling, sending sms and browsnig) Help me please

If you want to use something like CM7 or let's say something like pure google, try [email protected] by adwinp.
This ROM has the best performance of all, especially the graphics performance is amazing.
Battery life should be about the same as on other roms.
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using Tapatalk

CM7 is good and fast , didn't find it all that amazing though missed the functionality of my camera! So I started on the same journey to find a good rom , stable oc'able , with good support and regular updates fixes..
In the end I have settled on beatmod gingersense , running the 1.2 version for now shortly moving it to 1.3 ..
Mind you this is all if you like sense .
A quick link to save time too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1091568
Sent from my Desire HD running beatmod gingersense v1.2 using XDA App

i'm using tb fusion http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1077180 but when i'll have some time i'll switch to honeysense 4.0

Hey!
I'm using LeeDroid HD a long time. At first the Froyo version and now Gingerbread.
I was very sceptic about sense, in my first attempts to use it it was extremely laggy and used to freeze and force close at least once a day.
So I tried other launchers, CM 6 and 7, but in the end I went back to LeeDroid. His last version, V3.1.3 with the 3.1.4 kernel is very stable, smoother than all other roms I used and Sense is doing very well, I was surprised. What is important to me is a good battery life and the battery lasts up to 5 days, depending how often and long I use the phone.
That was a big problem of CM. The battery drained very fast, although I liked the idea of a clean Android.
Hope I could give you some impressions

Maybe this poll + thread will help you out.
I'm on Android Revolution HD btw, absolutely great rom

I use LEVO 2.5V
I think is wonderful rom
DeSiRe HD -> XDA App

Currently on ARHD, but I'm going to try something differnet this weekend, sticking with a Sense mod, just my personal preference. Think I'll try either RCMix3D or Honeysense 4.

I used Revolution HD for a long while and it's an excellent rom. However, it becomes a problem when you want to move from the stock look to something more personal, because many mods come separately and overwrite files previous mods changed. I recently switched to HoneySense and despite not being so mature it has the look I want (no more custom zips at last) and works pretty well with minor flaws. MIUI also has a place in my heart although I'd miss some Sense goodies if I switched, which is what keeps me away for now.
I hope it helps.

+1 for honeysense v5.0 battery excellent speed excellent and very pretty.
Sent from my DesireHD using Honeysense v5.0 via the XDA app!

After using CM7 for several months, as well as a brief stint with LeeDroid 3.1.3, I'm back to stock.
CM7 + LordMod kernel, despite flashing updated radios and RILs, wrought havoc on my reception and GPS. I dropped 50% of my calls, and GPS took ages to lock on (even after using Fast Reboot + FasterFix). Moreover, my 3G connection would drop out constantly, which was a PITA when streaming Last.fm and AudioGalaxy.
LeeDroid solved my reception issues, but it would spontaneously reboot and get caught in a boot cycle until I pulled the battery. This happened at least twice a day.
So it's back to stock for me. I miss the freedom of custom roms, but when it comes to my primary communication device, I need stability. Being on KT in Korea, I haven't got the GB OTA update yet (booooo), and I can't download games from the market.