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any info on ShadowRom???

i saw it this morning on rom manager but couldnt find any info on it anywere.... sense? vanilla? apps? anyinfo.... screenshots too.... thanx!

Stoney 666 said:
i saw it this morning on rom manager but couldnt find any info on it anywere.... sense? vanilla? apps? anyinfo.... screenshots too.... thanx!
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http://www.droidforums.net/forum/sh...l-fastest-shadow-more-features-4-devices.html
It's pure vanilla, just like CM6.

fortesquieu said:
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/sh...l-fastest-shadow-more-features-4-devices.html
It's pure vanilla, just like CM6.
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sounds pretty dope... custome live wallpaper is pretty cool. i just might try it out....
thanx for the quick response...

I'm running it right now. I must say it is very nice...I like

bilbobrian said:
I'm running it right now. I must say it is very nice...I like
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have you tried the custome live wallpaper yet? i cant figure out how to do it.

Seems like a very nice and smooth rom. Launcher pro is supper smooth with the rom. Going to try kings aosp kernel. Stock kernel only allows over clock to 1.15, no 1.13 option, which is not stable for me.
Shadow Rom
2.0.5 Radio
King #1 AOSP

fortesquieu said:
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/sh...l-fastest-shadow-more-features-4-devices.html
It's pure vanilla, just like CM6.
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It's apparently based off of CM6's source, then tweaked. I was going to post on here about it earlier today, but didn't have time.
I'm wondering if anyone can drop a compare/contrast of the different AOSP builds available for the DInc now.
I'm guessing here, but Ruby is as stock as you can get (until they change that), CM6 has some tweaks, UD has more tweaks and is built off CM6, and ShadowROM is built off CM6 and has tweaks.
Almost makes me wonder if someone should come along and pull them *all* together into some massive super-AOSP ROM... which from what ShadowROM's description reads, that's what they're trying to do.

I am trying this one right now...and looking that it has koush kernel, I suspect it also has the reboot/shut down issue... I really hope not. Personally, I don't care if they all pull together, or individually...but the reboot/shut down issue has been my biggest culprit on CM...and I depend on my phone. Ruby has been awesome...so if this one doesn't work out, I have something to fall back to.

sucker4pa1n said:
I'm guessing here, but Ruby is as stock as you can get (until they change that), CM6 has some tweaks, UD has more tweaks and is built off CM6, and ShadowROM is built off CM6 and has tweaks.
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I haven't tried Ruby yet, but don't forget about Virtuous. It's essentially stock with most bloatware removed.
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App

Virtuous is sense, not aosp.

tats_06 said:
I am trying this one right now...and looking that it has koush kernel, I suspect it also has the reboot/shut down issue... I really hope not. Personally, I don't care if they all pull together, or individually...but the reboot/shut down issue has been my biggest culprit on CM...and I depend on my phone. Ruby has been awesome...so if this one doesn't work out, I have something to fall back to.
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Same here. I have to give up on AOSP roms for a while if I don't want to miss any calls while the phone reboots itself or goes into la la land. At least Redemption is very stable for me and good on the battery.

I can't wait to try this rom out. Does anyone know if it has the stock froyo launcher? Also mflops and radio would be nice.
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App

I've been using it for about a day now and it has been very smooth, today I'm giving it the full test, will report back if something goes awry
Incredible

PonsAsinorem said:
I haven't tried Ruby yet, but don't forget about Virtuous. It's essentially stock with most bloatware removed.
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App
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Grikshanks said:
Virtuous is sense, not aosp.
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TY Grikshanks for saving me on that one. AOSP vs. Sense-based ROMs and related discussion are starting to bug me. Especially when talking about AOSP kernels vs. Sense...
However, now that it's been mentioned, I did forget about IncredibleDoes' AOSP based ROMs. So thus far AOSP ROMs for the DInc are: ID's, CM's, UD/BD's, Ruby, and ShadowROM. I hope I'm not missing anything else... and UD/BD, CM, and Shadow are all based off each other. Ruby and ID are unique. Though I know all the devs talk to each other, I don't know the details on what is mutual or exclusive between them (ie if kernels are interchangeable).
jermaine151 said:
Same here. I have to give up on AOSP roms for a while if I don't want to miss any calls while the phone reboots itself or goes into la la land. At least Redemption is very stable for me and good on the battery.
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Weird, I've been on 6.0.2, stock kernel with SetCPU settings as:
Screen off = 384/245 interactive priority 90
Temp > 40C = 768/128 conservative priority 85
Charging/full = 998/128 interactive priority 80
Batt < 25% = 691/128 conservative priority 50
And been doing fine throughout the day. No reboots on calls... only thing is that playing Parallel Kingdom sucks battery down pretty fast. Also makes the phone rather warm. But I've been on CM6 pretty much since it came out stable, skipped .01 and went straight to .02. Haven't tried Adrynalyne or KK's kernels yet.
mikeacela said:
I can't wait to try this rom out. Does anyone know if it has the stock froyo launcher? Also mflops and radio would be nice.
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App
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From what I can tell looking at source code, it doesn't seem to be forked from anything. I'm guessing they pulled Launcher2 and modified the source as they see fit, so it's roughly based off stock froyo launcher. But I'm still learning how to play with source/github/etc.
I don't *think* any ROMs modify the radio. Are you asking what radio is required to use it? Personally I just use the newest leaked one, haven't had problems yet. And mflops should be similar to CM6's, as they share the stock kernel (and codebase).
Don't really know why people are so obsessive about benchmarks. Give it a try, if you don't like it because it's laggy or whatever, nandroid back. *shrug*

mikeacela said:
I can't wait to try this rom out. Does anyone know if it has the stock froyo launcher? Also mflops and radio would be nice.
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App
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I'm running this with King Kernel, it gave me quadrant score of 1397 and 34.485 MFLOPS. All stock.

sucker4pa1n said:
TY Grikshanks for saving me on that one. AOSP vs. Sense-based ROMs and related discussion are starting to bug me. Especially when talking about AOSP kernels vs. Sense...
However, now that it's been mentioned, I did forget about IncredibleDoes' AOSP based ROMs. So thus far AOSP ROMs for the DInc are: ID's, CM's, UD/BD's, Ruby, and ShadowROM. I hope I'm not missing anything else... and UD/BD, CM, and Shadow are all based off each other. Ruby and ID are unique. Though I know all the devs talk to each other, I don't know the details on what is mutual or exclusive between them (ie if kernels are interchangeable).
Weird, I've been on 6.0.2, stock kernel with SetCPU settings as:
Screen off = 384/245 interactive priority 90
Temp > 40C = 768/128 conservative priority 85
Charging/full = 998/128 interactive priority 80
Batt < 25% = 691/128 conservative priority 50
And been doing fine throughout the day. No reboots on calls... only thing is that playing Parallel Kingdom sucks battery down pretty fast. Also makes the phone rather warm. But I've been on CM6 pretty much since it came out stable, skipped .01 and went straight to .02. Haven't tried Adrynalyne or KK's kernels yet.
From what I can tell looking at source code, it doesn't seem to be forked from anything. I'm guessing they pulled Launcher2 and modified the source as they see fit, so it's roughly based off stock froyo launcher. But I'm still learning how to play with source/github/etc.
I don't *think* any ROMs modify the radio. Are you asking what radio is required to use it? Personally I just use the newest leaked one, haven't had problems yet. And mflops should be similar to CM6's, as they share the stock kernel (and codebase).
Don't really know why people are so obsessive about benchmarks. Give it a try, if you don't like it because it's laggy or whatever, nandroid back. *shrug*
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UD/CM/Shadowrom arent just "based off each other". Looking outside the scope of the incredible, Cyanogenmod is king of AOSP considering its support of multiple devices. Crystal Clear is starting to make its way out being that the incredible is their second device. most everyone knows the deal with UD, but i dont know a thing about shadowrom. in that respect, pretty much all of these roms are based off of CM, because all of these devs, including BlackDroid, consult with the CM team to create their roms, and some use parts of it. With that in mind, youll see that just about all of these roms use Koush's kernles from CM. Most AOSP built roms for a single device can swap kernels for the most part, since most of them dont really differentiate much in the OS anyways. The only real differences between these roms is mostly the optional built-in customizations they add in settings and the launchers they use out of the box, as well as whatever theme they add in sometimes if any. CM sets a good bar with full status/notification customizing from the settings menu, along with the performance, input, sound, display settings etc. Ruby sort of followed suit but swapped status bar customizing for other miscellaneous tweaks. BD just compiled a crap load of tweaks made by other people and combined them into his rom, yet it still lacks the status bar tweaking. Shadowrom seems to have fully incorporated it along with some of his own additions, but those didnt seem to work on my phone when trying them out. couldnt even see what was in the Misc. settings cus it FC'ed on me.
for the launcher used in shadowrom, yes it is the launcher from the Nexus. it looks like he smoothed it out quite a bit though.
the only roms that will upgrade your radio are those that come leaked from HTC themselves. No rom should "modify" your radio. if anyone has tried so and youre thinking about flashing it, dont.

FYI:
in that respect, pretty much all of these roms are based off of CM, because all of these devs, including BlackDroid, consult with the CM team to create their roms, and some use parts of it. With that in mind, youll see that just about all of these roms use Koush's kernles from CM.
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UD: Yes
Shadowrom: Yes
Ruby: No
Cm6 has some stuff in it forked from Ruby. I wouldn't say Cm6 is based off of Ruby because of that. Would you?
Ruby is its own project.
cm did not invent aosp, and have their own source tree.
Ruby does not use that tree.

1st big issue I see - it doesn't scan the built in memory for images or music. Not sure how the "three testers" they were using missed this one.

Been running this for 2 days now. I flashed Kings AOSP kernal over the one that came with this rom. Runs very smooth and stable. Only one small issues... couldnt update to newest version of google street view (newest version of google maps comes installed with this rom), and camcorder does not do 720p. Camera is 8mp though. Great stable rom. Quadrant scored in the 1400 range with no overclocking on king kernal. High 1500 range @ 1.15 ghz.
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App

For those people having trouble with their 8gb internal memory being recognized, a great music player that someone else on this forum recommended called mortplayer recognizes all of my media that is on my internal memory and plays all my music without a flaw. Mortplayer is works great on ruby, CM6, and shadowrom, those being the only AOSP roms that I've tried so far! Just throwing it out there for anyone with media on the internal memory

ROM recommendations

Hi,
I have a HTC Desire Z and I'm currently using the Vision Sense 1.82.405.1 Untouched ROM. I'm also thinking of trying out other ROMs, particularly those that are based on Gingerbread (though I admit I don't fully know what advantages Gingerbread has over Froyo).
I'm generally happy with the phone as it is now, but my main gripes are its speed - it lags noticeably sometimes - and battery life - I get about a day at most, and by that I mean from the time I wake up to the time I sleep, not 24hrs).
Are there any comparisons/writeups on what the various ROMs offer, and how they're different from one another?
Thanks.

I'm running Blackdroidmod 3.3.0 with stock Radio, set the governer @ Interactive min 386mhz and max 1016mhz and I'm using LauncherPro (plus) instead of the stock/ADW launcher. I love it and I reach 20 hours easily with moderate usage.
(2~ 4 calls/day, average of 10 texts, lots of whatsapp messages and activesync @ 2 accounts + 2 x pop3 accounts polling every hour, fb polling every 15 mins, weather sync every 2 hours, some gaming and listening to mp3) and it's always smooth (806mhz max is enough if you don't use multiple apps at the same time).
It's stable and everything works right away from the first time I flashed it. CM7.0 is good... but isn't very stable in my opinion and misses some applications while Blackdroidmod looks a bit like Sense.

goister said:
Hi,
I'm also thinking of trying out other ROMs, particularly those that are based on Gingerbread (though I admit I don't fully know what advantages Gingerbread has over Froyo).
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Really not much, if you are a Sense fan. Google fixed a bunch of aesthetic/theming stuff, and improved the keyboard. Most of which is moot, since HTC themes mostly override the theme changes, and HTC uses their own keyboard. There may be some performance improvements or bug fixes. But in running both Froyo and GB ROMs, I didn't notice much performance difference. This might be due to the fact that most of the current Gingerbread ROMs are ports from other phones, or based on the leaked Desire Z test ROM. But I have not tried the recent G2 (no Sense) leaked test ROM, which is supposed to be pretty fast.
HTC Sense really slows down the phone, so a move to any ROM without Sense will probably improve your performance. Alternately, the lag you are noticing is probably due to the Sense launcher, which seems to be a CPU and memory hog. Try another launcher, like ADW or Launcher Pro, and you will probably find it improves performance quite a bit. You will lose the HTC widgets, but retain some of the nice HTC features, like the camera.
Getting a "waking day" (charge overnight) out of a modern smartphone is pretty normal. Of course, it completely depends on how much you use your phone. But with moderate use, I have yet to get more than a day, on various ROMs and radios. I can get 24 hours+ on very light use. What is your screen brightness set to? The screen brightness is actually one of the biggest battery drain culprits. If its on auto, turn that off, and reduce the brightness to the lowest setting you find usable/tolerable. Mine is on 35%. Just going from auto to a lower setting can improve battery life quite a bit.

If you like sense, I've found the battery life on the Trollogen Mod 0.9.1 to be SPECTACULAR. So far it's given me the best battery life out of all the ROMs I've tried. That includes Virtuous with the advanced kernel and multiple SetCPU profiles and the stock Gingerbread ROMs.
I tried running the battery down last night at a friends place for laughs and left music running on Wi-Fi with full brightness. I was constantly turning the screen on and looking at websites and so forth and by the time I got home (6 hours later) it had only just hit 67%. What's surprising is I didn't need a custom kernel or to modify it with SetCPU

Wow, 3 replies, 3 different suggestions. This is gonna be tough...
So far I've only heard of Virtuous, GingerVillian and Cyanogenmod, never heard of the others.
Oh I forgot to mention I'd like something that's stable as well, I've noticed things crash/reload quite a bit currently.

Trollogen is still a beta but its fairly stable as far as I can see. But if stability is really an issue you should stick with virtuous and install a new kernel on it.

My suggestion for a stable rom would be Virtuous with the advanced kernel. With 1.0.2 OCed to 1.3GHz and stock battery,i got about 16hrs of life with moderate use. Replaced with mugen 1800mAh and now can get 20hrs with moderate use and 30hrs with light use.
Havent used CM or TGM yet, but SenseGinger goes have some bugs in it which turned me away before. I would probably stick with a Froyo release until the official 2.3 rom gets released by HTC.
Happy flashing
Sent from my Virtuous Desire Z 1.0.2 using XDA App

Lately there have been so many new ports, it's hard to keep up...but I do! (But mostly with Sense) Flash something new very night, but I always keep coming back to virtuous 1.0.2 with advanced kernel 2.2.0.
Everything just works, always (except HTC calendar widget disappears after a reboot, for some reason). Very speedy for sense, and being able to overclock pushes it into a winning position for me versus the gingerbread sense roms.
Xboarder56's stock gingerbread worked pretty well for me while I was on it for a couple of days. Worth a try!
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

OK, thanks. Perhaps I'll try Virtuous. Are there any step by step guides to flash Virtuous ROM into my Desire Z, and what's the advanced kernel 2.2.0? Don't all Android use Linux kernel 2.6.x?
Thanks again.
Edit: OK I assume the Advanced Kernel 2.2.0 is what's found in the Virtuous kernel 2.x page here.
What if I want to install a Gingerbread kernel? I see there's a Gingerbread folder here with either glite or sense. What are these?

Both Virtuous G-lite and Fusion have OC kernels and shouldn't have to flash a new one on install. Just have to get SetCPU or CPUTuner to enable the OC, both up to 1.5GHz.
Sent from my AOSP Virtuous Desire Z using XDA App

goister said:
OK, thanks. Perhaps I'll try Virtuous. Are there any step by step guides to flash Virtuous ROM into my Desire Z, and what's the advanced kernel 2.2.0? Don't all Android use Linux kernel 2.6.x?
Thanks again.
Edit: OK I assume the Advanced Kernel 2.2.0 is what's found in the Virtuous kernel 2.x page here.
What if I want to install a Gingerbread kernel? I see there's a Gingerbread folder here with either glite or sense. What are these?
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G-Lite is a Gingerbread ROM, with no Sense. Fusion is a port of Gingerbread (from another phone), with Sense 3.0. Sense 3.0 has some cool new features, but the launcher takes up most of the phone's memory (our phone is not meant to run Sense 3.0, and we won't be getting it "officially" for this reason). Just about every time you go back to the launcher home, it needs to reload the launcher, which is annoying. There are also some graphical glitches. So I found Fusion fun to play with for a while, but I'm back on Froyo, probably until the official Sense ROM for our device is released (and a rooted version is posted here).
If you want Sense, stability and usability, the "original" Virtuous is probably what you want. Its easy to install. You can download straight in ROM Manager, and flash from there. You might not have to do a full wipe, since you are coming from a stock Froyo Sense ROM. But if you have any issues, you should probably wipe (dalvik, cache, and data) and flash again. Also, do a nandroid/clockwork backup of your current ROM, before you flash Virtuous, in case you have the need or desire to return to your current setup. ROM Manager will give you the choice to backup the current ROM when you go to flash Virtuous.
Virtuous comes overclocked to 1 GHz by default. The advanced kernel gives additional overclocking options (up to 1.51 GHz), that's all. Advanced kernel pretty much requires you to setup screen-off profiles with SetCPU (or similar app) or you will (AFAIK) almost certainly have issues with the screen waking. So you might not want to mess with it, and to stick with the default/included kernel, unless you are really interested in OC speeds over 1 GHz.
The Virtuous Gingerbread kernel allows overclocking of G-Lite and Fusion. They can't be used with the "regular" (Froyo based) Virtuous. Vice versa is also true.
But really, there isn't a whole lot that Virtuous actually gives you in addition to stock. You can flash the Godspeed kernel on the stock ROM, if you want to overclock. Virtuous also has trackpad wake, which is very cool. But again, you can do this mod on the stock ROM. So modding the stock ROM to your liking may be another option.

The insertcoin rom is another half way house option. It is Sense 2.1 based with some 3.0 bits added.
It is still a bit more memory intensive than stock, but it does have the very cool lockscreen, which is one of my main reasons for sticking with it. That and the CRT animations always keep me happy.
I have been using it as my daily driver for a while now.

Does G-Lite is a stable rom for G2 ?
Im searching for a stable, overclockable Rom based on 2.3
I read about CM7, and looks with so many issues on gps, etc..
Does G-Lite is stable and gps, bluetooth, youtube, etc works ?
Also, I need a tip, or a feature. I need to use a Rom (or chance any config) to put the Navigator voice on Brazilian Portuguese.
CM have this, but with the problems on GPS.
Any ideia ?

If you want something other then a Sense Rom. You could try meXdroid. It is stable and fast. It is a Gingerbread Rom (2.3.4) I have been using his roms for a while now. The dev and his team theme out the rom. Here is a link to meXdroid rom with screen shots. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=886184

I dont like sense.
Im searching for a stock android rom.

pyromod 2.0 with smartass...1.5ghz and great batt life
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

angusbrasil said:
I dont like sense.
Im searching for a stock android rom.
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meXdroid is not a Sense Rom. It just has a theme. Look at the link in the post above. You can see a few screen shots of the Rom there. You can overclock meXdroid to 1.5 ghz also. You really don't need to though. It is fast at 800 mhz. I know Quadrant does not mean a lot but at 800 mhz my scores are 2500+ and at 1.2 ghz my scores are 3000+.

it wasnt the ghz i was impressed by it was tje batt life to go with it...but ill try to post in the right section next time..lol..sorry
pimped out g2

smokeuout said:
it wasnt the ghz i was impressed by it was tje batt life to go with it...but ill try to post in the right section next time..lol..sorry
pimped out g2
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Oh no no. My post was not to say anything about your post. I was just stating as you did that meXdroid can overclock also. You can post here all you want. This is a question in the Q&A section not in the meXdroid thread. Your all good. Have a good one.

hey alright...it was the right section...lol..no im new to posting so im still learnin the areas and such...b seriously PYROMOD 2.0
pimped out g2

Newbie - Which Rom?

Hey everyone!
I'll be honest; my phone has been running sprint lovers rom since late december last year and it works great. Since then, I haven't really looked at the scene or any developments (same with android). However, I started getting prompted about the OTA update, so I figure its time to look at a new custom ROM. Sadly sprint lovers no longer appears to be updated - I liked it because everything just worked.
I have the following requirements: All phone features need to work.
So, I found the AllianceROM, from what I can tell everything works with the rom. Are there any other roms I may want to look at? Will my nand unlock and root work? Most of the rom installers say to run the latest version of autoroot - is that really necessary?
Thanks everyone, I appreciate your input!!

kingsrom alliance is great also hyrbids sense 3.0 themed all sense 3.0 rom's are Good but have horrible battery life cuz of no custom kernels because HTC hasn't released the kernel source
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I love these roms miui , decks with sz kernel sbc , cm7 with a custom kenrel sbc ,and end of days with a custom kernel with sbc
or if you want a sense rom the perfect one is warm 2.2 or konis elite series 3 with netarchys sbc kernel
myns warm 2.2 link------->http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793471
evo decks-----------)http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1078558
end of days--------->http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065414
miui---------> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=915527
cm7--------->>>>>>>
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=956187
konis elite series http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=941055

custom kernels
dont use these 2 on sense roms
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=917755 sz kernel sbc
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=972746 tiamat sbc
use this one for sense roms http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719763

Personally, I recommend CM7 along with the Tiamat Kernel, powered with viperboy's scripts.

msarro said:
Hey everyone!
I'll be honest; my phone has been running sprint lovers rom since late december last year and it works great. Since then, I haven't really looked at the scene or any developments (same with android). However, I started getting prompted about the OTA update, so I figure its time to look at a new custom ROM. Sadly sprint lovers no longer appears to be updated - I liked it because everything just worked.
I have the following requirements: All phone features need to work.
So, I found the AllianceROM, from what I can tell everything works with the rom. Are there any other roms I may want to look at? Will my nand unlock and root work? Most of the rom installers say to run the latest version of autoroot - is that really necessary?
Thanks everyone, I appreciate your input!!
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Hello there, friend.
The previous posts have everything pretty much nailed down... but there's a few thinks I have to add.
As a Newbie that I am, I have been flashing nonstop, trying many roms.
Basically and on a quick run-down of what I remember right now..:
If you want your phone to look Apple-ish, try MIUI. not everything works, or you have to jump through hoops to get it to work. Personally, not my cup of tea, but it's light (sizewise) and quick. Too many bugs, tho.
Cyanogen is the standard AOSP (Open Source) ROM. I didn't like it that much. With it, I found I am a Sense guy. Still a little buggy but 4G works (a big downfall in many AOSP ROMS).
Virus' Kingdom REVOlution is a great Sense 3.0 ROM. MY pet peeves with it are: Browser force closes (FC) and no spanish dictionary for touch input. I am bi-lingual so I NEED this. This ROM has a carrousel (sp) home window and it REALLY LOOKS NICE. It's a battery hog, but you will get that with sense 3.0 roms and 2.1 with 3.0 elements pushed into it. It's the price you pay for nice eye-candy. If you get this ROM, make sure you partition your card as directed in one of their thousands of posts. Search will do you well here. This is because the ROM occupies a lot of space in your phone and as you install apps, you will eventually be left with very low memory for your other tasks.
Mik's ROMS are very solid, but I simply don't like the way they look. Truth is, I can't be simpler than this. If you make a ROM, make it look nice. The idea behind rooting, for many, is to be able to use the hotspot capabilities, but for many of us, looks also matter. Sometimes, a LOT.
Myn's ROMS, I define with just a simple phrase: ROCK SOLID.
* Warm Z is awesome. Landscape support for main screen, polished beautiful looks and great battery life make this a keeper... if you don't care about having 4G. Since this ROM is based off the Desire HD, it has no 4G support.
* Warm 2.2 is the most solid of them all. Everything works. Towards the end, I ran my battery close to 24 hrs with this mod and the Netarchy 4.3.4 (HAVS, aggressive yaddah plus whatever, I can't remember now) and had NO ISSUES AT ALL. It was a daily for more than 2 months. With some mods that Myn lists in that same page you can make it look even nicer.
STEEL ROMS are basically stock roms that have been tweaked to WORK, and that, they do, and they do it very well. As with these kinds of ROMS, expect heavy files (anywhere from 250 - 300 MB and maybe more).
I hope this has helped you a bit, friend. Happy wiping!

yeah and viperboys scripts are badass battery life savers

Here is the link to a ROM with sprintlover's base :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1118063

Try Vaelpak's GB ROM: http://vaelek.com/index.php?/forum/47-vaelpak-gingerbread-aosp/?. I recently jumped into MIUI, and its very stable, contrary to what someone else said. CM7 may be the "standard," but Deck and Vaelpak are very good AOSP ROMs. Kernel-wise (for AOSP), I love the sz kernel and viperboy's uv scripts are great.

[Q] The Best ROM experience ? share pls.

Ok., so Many New ROM's... which make's newbies get confused which is the best.
Best in term's of:
1.stability
2.design
3.compatibility
4.usability
5.user experience
6.support for new updates
7.user friendly
8.no bug's
9.Global mode
10.Battery life.
guy's pls. share your thoughts.... so I/YOU can decide. which is which
Thanks.

If you want sense try This one. It is by far my favorite sense rom as of right now. If you don't want sense OMFGB is the most stable, and fast non-sense rom I have used.

Ok, I'll bite
Best in term's of:
1.stability - Currently running Miui 1.8.19 Very stable. Unity also very stable for me.
2.design - Depends on if you want a Sense based rom or AOSP Rom... Unity for Sense was great. I love Miui for the customization's.
3.compatibility - So far I have been able to use any of the usual apps that I would run with the stock non rooted rom.
4.usability - Miui has been a very usable daily driver for me. MMS works, calls have no issues. Wifi works... Don't use BT so can't say on that.
5.user experience - very good
6.support for new updates - Haven't need to use this yet. But from what I have seen, the support on most of the roms we have available is good.
7.user friendly - I would say that the Sense based roms may be more user friendly to someone that has been using Sense based roms. Miui is pretty simple to get the hang of as well as the other AOSP (Cyanogen and others).
8.no bug's - only bug I have found in Miui, is the soft touch keys don't rotate when going to landscape mode. No biggie as I didn't expect them to.
9.Global mode - Haven't used this yet.
10.Battery life - Battery life has been great with both Unity and Miui. This could be due to the fact of the custom Kernals and being UV'd. Both have easily lasted all day under heavy use. I plug into the charger at night before going to bed, and generally have 40% battery left.
Hope this may help someone out

thanks ...I need more ideas so i can compare ,. keep it coming

I'm running CM7 Nightlies #48
1.stability - extremely stable so far. The only FC I get is when I first boot up ADW EX FC's, but I think it's because I'm impatient
2.design - I love the look of vanilla android. If you don't, or think it's boring, you won't like it. There are boat load of themes, though. And the great thing is all CM7 themes are compatible, regardless of which phone
3.compatibility - I haven't ran into any apps that I can't run
4.usability - very usable. Don't really know how to answer this
5.user experience - excellent, with all the customizable options
6.support for new updates - nightlies, lol
7.user friendly - I would say it is user friendly for anyone who is on XDA. Maybe not your average user, though
8.no bug's - none that I've ran into. Some complain about low volume in calls, but I don't experience that
9.Global mode - haven't tested
10.Battery life - excellent. I can easily get through a day
Edit: I should add that I haven't had a stock rom in god knows how long. So I am very used to little quirks here and there and don't even notice them anymore. Others may
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As for omfgb the phone was broken when I tried it. Omgb was pretty much flawless. As of now I'm running the gingersense rooted stock with great results.
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I ran OMFGB for a while, it performed well. I really like it because it is slimmed down AOSP but still has some nice features. Didn't seem to have much bugs, but nightlies can always produce bugs for people. OMGB 1.2 is the stable version of it.
Running Miui now because I wanted something different. Its performing well but it doesnt seem as quick OCd at 1.3 as OMFGB was OCd at 1.3 for me. The theme manager and customization in Miui though are awesome. Battery seems good so far.

Grabbed Skyraider Zeus today.....similar to mik Rom mix.....same great stable performance....with a few more features...at least so far lol
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ericsignals said:
Grabbed Skyraider Zeus today.....similar to mik Rom mix.....same great stable performance....with a few more features...at least so far lol
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Any bugs so far?

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Any bugs so far?
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Only bug I have ran into is that it wont install certain skins. Not really a big deal but could be a breaker for some people. I tried honeybread, glasssense, and one other cant remember and none of them worked. Carbon fiber one does though.

I VERY highly suggest ANY ROM posted by "newtoroot" he has four great and different ROMs. They each have a few bugs, it just depends on your taste as to if the things bother you. Some people can use it as a daily others can't.
ihftp69, release a preview ROM of his SkyRaider Zeus, and is, afaik completely bug free 2.1 Sense ROM experience with sense 3.0 components.

MIUI has been my daily driver for about 2 weeks now. Everything works (MMS, BT, Wifi, etc) and the themes are awesome. Very consistent with updates and has a great dev team. Haven't seen any FCs from the system apps. Also, battery life is great.
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Can I run launcher Puerto from miui?
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MIUI has been my daily driver for about 2 weeks now. Everything works (MMS, BT, Wifi, etc) and the themes are awesome. Very consistent with updates and has a great dev team. Haven't seen any FCs from the system apps. Also, battery life is great.
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Have to echo this remark. Going on a week with MIUI and have had no issues outside of it resetting yesterday while playing around with the music player it came with. Battery is on par with stock, but having a pretty UI means I play with the phone a lot more .

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Only bug I have ran into is that it wont install certain skins. Not really a big deal but could be a breaker for some people. I tried honeybread, glasssense, and one other cant remember and none of them worked. Carbon fiber one does though.
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Skins from this thread work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122229
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Can I run launcher Puerto from miui?
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I'm not sure what Launcher Puerto is, but you can run Launcher Pro it takes away some of the MIUI experience, but all the menu's and stuff are different. Quite a unique rom
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I really like the OMFGB roms, very stable, everything works and its fast. I also like the MIUI rom. I really love that fact that I can use the torch from the home lock screen by pressing the home key! MIUI also has a great dev community as well. It's really a personal preference, but as far as performance, I like those two the best.

Here is another vote for MIUI. Great stable ROM.
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If you want some sense 3.0 features, the SkyRaider Zeus beat them all in stability and functionality, haven't found any bugs yet. Virtuous Unity came in close 2nd if you can live with the compass being backward, it lag a bit during first startup, overall it doesn't feel as smooth as Zeus even at 1.3Ghz. Gingerbang 1.5 is my number 1 choice if I want something close to stock, very snappy even at stock speed and it gave me the best battery life even after i overclocked to 1.2Ghz.

I switch between GingerSense and MIUI with great results from both. Exchange nuances keep me coming back to Sense-based ROMs, but MIUI in terms of customization taunts me constantly.
Stability has been great on both as well as compatibility.

Rom suggestions for a significant other?

Greetings everyone.
I would like to root and install a new ROM on my girlfriend's Incredible 2. Now normally I would experiment myself but since it is not my own phone I will not have the opportunity to go flash crazy and try everything. As such I would like to get some recommendations. The main thing would be speed and stability. I do not know what she has done to her phone I just know that it is stock something. I am also unsure of what root method to use but that is simply due to the fact that I haven't been able to check anything yet. I just want to get some groundwork done before I jump in. She is always using her phone so I figured it would be nice to make her experience more enjoyable. Thanks in advance!
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There wouldn't be something as beast as the Decks reloaded ROM on the Evo would there? That is essentially what I would like to flash for her. Something ridiculously stable that has all the tweaks that I would need to add in. If not just let me know what the most stable rom is and what tweaks I should include as I flash for the lady.

for a good overview of available roms, kernels, radios, tweaks, and s-off guides you might start here
I think you're going to have to use the tacoroot method. that's what I did and I had the most current verizon updates. I just flashed chilly beans pd rom last night and it seems great. incredibly paranoid android I hope that helps

I love paranood but all the tweaks may overwhelm her. Dkstunnas global cm9 ROM has everything working and is fast, viper ROM is the best sense ROM in my opinion, and I also love gingerbread miui. Tazz patriot and macrodroid also have a nice sense 3.6 ROM named Arctic ascension, which is a little faster than venom but maybe less visually awe inspiring, I also made a descended version of that ROM but it is extremely stripped down (made for speed). All the ROMs I mentioned are completely functional and stable, except paranoid, which the newest version doesn't have a working front facing camera, but watch it, I'm sure chilly will get it worked out, he's a good dev, hope I've given you a small idea of what some of my picks are like...
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Jasonp0 said:
for a good overview of available roms, kernels, radios, tweaks, and s-off guides you might start here
I think you're going to have to use the tacoroot method. that's what I did and I had the most current verizon updates. I just flashed chilly beans pd rom last night and it seems great. incredibly paranoid android I hope that helps
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Kinda outdate post you linked but still a good start ...maybe some one should up date it one day lol
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Are you doing this for her or for you? Does she want it rooted? If not, leave it be. If she is happy with it then adhere to the "if it ain't broke don't fix it" line if thinking. If she does want it rooted, which type of rom does she want? Does she like sense and prefer not to have to learn her way around a new type of os? If so, skyraider Zeus is really good. Also, nits has some good gb sense roms. If she wants to try something new cm7 is fast and stable. As Jeremy said, gingerbread miui is great, just be careful with themes. Always backup before changing themes as some of them will lock your phone up and force you to restore a back up. It isn't common but I found several that did it. If she wants everything working with no bugs or random restarts, stay away from ics/jb at least until (if) we get source. If she is daring and can work through those issues without freaking out, the ones Jeremy mentioned are sweet. Pacman is one of my favorite roms ever, I just had some bugs that pushed me away for now. And they may be more phone related than rom. Hope that helps.
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Thanks everyone. From my browsing of this forum i think I will just let her pick between skyraider zeus, team venom, magnolia and Gingerbread miui.
I believe these roms to have a good balance from my quick skimming.
Are these the correct links?
http://www.teambamf.net/topic/1737-romgb-skyraider-zeus-13-inc2-update-11222011/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1383848&highlight=search+this+forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1953899
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1162835&highlight=gingerbread+miui

For OP, concur with what others above already said ... search for both speed & stability involved compromises in balancing out on a rooted custom ROM since you are on XDA searching ...
1. There are 2 stock Sense Rom based on VZW's OTA releases, one by AndyBones with additional tweaks/add-ons and a newer one by CS, stripped of bloatware (she isn't going to mess with NFL or CityKids ID, yada yada) Put TB on it and update Play Store, etc. and once it's done updating the Apps, you are good to go - both maintained full GSM functionality and if you get it unlocked officially by Big Red, you can truely made it a global phone, insert a local prepaid Sim card & have inexpensive voice calling rates everywhere instead of using its partner's Vodafone Sim.
2. Next up is the Nit's Stock Sense v5.0.m-ext4, that's highly finished & polished, everything works with numerous options and it is equal to SkyRaider's Zeus v1.3 rom, both can be overclocked for speed in trading off some battery life - still going to give you a full 20 to 30 hours day of heavy use depending on Apps running, and in the case of DW's identical DI2 running SR Zeus, typically 3+ full days of standby with minimal voice calling/SMS and little or no 3G/WiFi browsing. Installed SRZ on her's since it was released 15 months ago and trouble-free, never froze and zero maintenance. I run between Stock Sense v5 and SRZ and still indecisive, switching every so often - especially when I'm traveling as I use GSM bands for non-US local calling, no re-programming or *#*# codes or menu to cycle thru. I keep copies of CWM's backup on the devices and in cloud storage in case of restoration, but it's been good. Update the kernels and to the newer radios once it's running, and you have a trouble-free device, set-n-forget - switched to a smaller (4 x 1) widget for the clock & weather display on the homescreen and I'm happy.
BTW, I have the newest Google Apps like Currents, Play Book & Play Magazine, etc. running on these Roms - when I don't have my true tablet, the Nexus 7 running JB 4.1.2 with me.
3. CM7's is good, simple & fast and good for changing things, haven't "play" with CM9 global ones lately - apparently most of the issues with camera, bluetooth & minor bugs are smoothly out. Tazz/MD's Sense 3.6 ROM is newer and is functional and refreshing - battery life isn't as good as older GB roms, as I recall. Be prepared for minimal tech support for you loved ones.
4. Nit's masterpiece, Team V's Viper Rom is the newest/hottest and best preview of JB/4.x for the DI2, I like it - TB restore from older GB and other roms might or might not work, depending on the Apps, it's best to do a fresh & clean install after full/deep wipe first. If it wasn't for the exclusive CDMA only or GSM only Rom , set by the initial Aroma installation & somewhat "fair" battery life - I would probably use it as my daily. Once (a big IF) HTC & VZW release kernel sources/codes or rollout ICS updates - serious development will resume as everything is now ported over from other/leaked sources. Paranoid's Rom by Chilly looks good, developer's work with the Nexus 7 set a benchmark that's not easy for others to follow/exceed - I haven't check it out myself but I'm sure it's excellent.

Thanks for the heads up! She has been complaining about how slow her phone seems to be lately so I figured it was a good excuse to root. I didn't see your post until just now, but those rom suggestions seem great! When I did show her a couple of screens she liked the look of MIUI best. Is the link I posted earlier a stable enough version for her? Or should I be looking at a different thread?

bryyando said:
Thanks for the heads up! She has been complaining about how slow her phone seems to be lately so I figured it was a good excuse to root. I didn't see your post until just now, but those rom suggestions seem great! When I did show her a couple of screens she liked the look of MIUI best. Is the link I posted earlier a stable enough version for her? Or should I be looking at a different thread?
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Miui variants has been around for a long time - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1830675 - I haven't flashed or use one lately since the HTC Eris days, LOL but from the thread posts, it looks good enough for me, if you like it - go for it. Just backup always and if ... just restore or flash a different one, go back-n-forth - trials and errors work for me all the time (well, almost.) Enjoy.

The most stable miui is the gb 1.12.9. I think that is the right number. If you are using clockwork mode go into Rom manager and download it. There are 2, the other is 1.30.9 it something like that. Most people say that one wasn't as stable as the previous build. If you use the gb Rom get Aero's .7 kernel. A lot of people like the ics build but it may have stability issues that someone not wanting to wipe cache or go through fixes would want to deal with.
Maybe it's 1.12.9 and 1.12.30, I don't remember for sure, but you don't want the one with 30 in the number.
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for a quick rom you should really try INCREDIBLY('<PARANOID2.19.10
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2049902

ltredbeard said:
for a quick rom you should really try INCREDIBLY('<PARANOID2.19.10
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2049902
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Not for someone who doesn't want to troubleshoot periodically.
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MRom
Seriously stable cm
It's gb has great battery life (I can go over 2 days with mild usage (tablet does most of my home android stuff and almost all my gaming )
Theme able which is great for customizing it for non nerd users
Plus it's about the only non stock based rom that has rotating lights
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