i saw it this morning on rom manager but couldnt find any info on it anywere.... sense? vanilla? apps? anyinfo.... screenshots too.... thanx!
Stoney 666 said:
i saw it this morning on rom manager but couldnt find any info on it anywere.... sense? vanilla? apps? anyinfo.... screenshots too.... thanx!
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http://www.droidforums.net/forum/sh...l-fastest-shadow-more-features-4-devices.html
It's pure vanilla, just like CM6.
fortesquieu said:
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/sh...l-fastest-shadow-more-features-4-devices.html
It's pure vanilla, just like CM6.
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sounds pretty dope... custome live wallpaper is pretty cool. i just might try it out....
thanx for the quick response...
I'm running it right now. I must say it is very nice...I like
bilbobrian said:
I'm running it right now. I must say it is very nice...I like
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have you tried the custome live wallpaper yet? i cant figure out how to do it.
Seems like a very nice and smooth rom. Launcher pro is supper smooth with the rom. Going to try kings aosp kernel. Stock kernel only allows over clock to 1.15, no 1.13 option, which is not stable for me.
Shadow Rom
2.0.5 Radio
King #1 AOSP
fortesquieu said:
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/sh...l-fastest-shadow-more-features-4-devices.html
It's pure vanilla, just like CM6.
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It's apparently based off of CM6's source, then tweaked. I was going to post on here about it earlier today, but didn't have time.
I'm wondering if anyone can drop a compare/contrast of the different AOSP builds available for the DInc now.
I'm guessing here, but Ruby is as stock as you can get (until they change that), CM6 has some tweaks, UD has more tweaks and is built off CM6, and ShadowROM is built off CM6 and has tweaks.
Almost makes me wonder if someone should come along and pull them *all* together into some massive super-AOSP ROM... which from what ShadowROM's description reads, that's what they're trying to do.
I am trying this one right now...and looking that it has koush kernel, I suspect it also has the reboot/shut down issue... I really hope not. Personally, I don't care if they all pull together, or individually...but the reboot/shut down issue has been my biggest culprit on CM...and I depend on my phone. Ruby has been awesome...so if this one doesn't work out, I have something to fall back to.
sucker4pa1n said:
I'm guessing here, but Ruby is as stock as you can get (until they change that), CM6 has some tweaks, UD has more tweaks and is built off CM6, and ShadowROM is built off CM6 and has tweaks.
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I haven't tried Ruby yet, but don't forget about Virtuous. It's essentially stock with most bloatware removed.
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Virtuous is sense, not aosp.
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I am trying this one right now...and looking that it has koush kernel, I suspect it also has the reboot/shut down issue... I really hope not. Personally, I don't care if they all pull together, or individually...but the reboot/shut down issue has been my biggest culprit on CM...and I depend on my phone. Ruby has been awesome...so if this one doesn't work out, I have something to fall back to.
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Same here. I have to give up on AOSP roms for a while if I don't want to miss any calls while the phone reboots itself or goes into la la land. At least Redemption is very stable for me and good on the battery.
I can't wait to try this rom out. Does anyone know if it has the stock froyo launcher? Also mflops and radio would be nice.
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I've been using it for about a day now and it has been very smooth, today I'm giving it the full test, will report back if something goes awry
Incredible
PonsAsinorem said:
I haven't tried Ruby yet, but don't forget about Virtuous. It's essentially stock with most bloatware removed.
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Virtuous is sense, not aosp.
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TY Grikshanks for saving me on that one. AOSP vs. Sense-based ROMs and related discussion are starting to bug me. Especially when talking about AOSP kernels vs. Sense...
However, now that it's been mentioned, I did forget about IncredibleDoes' AOSP based ROMs. So thus far AOSP ROMs for the DInc are: ID's, CM's, UD/BD's, Ruby, and ShadowROM. I hope I'm not missing anything else... and UD/BD, CM, and Shadow are all based off each other. Ruby and ID are unique. Though I know all the devs talk to each other, I don't know the details on what is mutual or exclusive between them (ie if kernels are interchangeable).
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Same here. I have to give up on AOSP roms for a while if I don't want to miss any calls while the phone reboots itself or goes into la la land. At least Redemption is very stable for me and good on the battery.
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Weird, I've been on 6.0.2, stock kernel with SetCPU settings as:
Screen off = 384/245 interactive priority 90
Temp > 40C = 768/128 conservative priority 85
Charging/full = 998/128 interactive priority 80
Batt < 25% = 691/128 conservative priority 50
And been doing fine throughout the day. No reboots on calls... only thing is that playing Parallel Kingdom sucks battery down pretty fast. Also makes the phone rather warm. But I've been on CM6 pretty much since it came out stable, skipped .01 and went straight to .02. Haven't tried Adrynalyne or KK's kernels yet.
mikeacela said:
I can't wait to try this rom out. Does anyone know if it has the stock froyo launcher? Also mflops and radio would be nice.
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From what I can tell looking at source code, it doesn't seem to be forked from anything. I'm guessing they pulled Launcher2 and modified the source as they see fit, so it's roughly based off stock froyo launcher. But I'm still learning how to play with source/github/etc.
I don't *think* any ROMs modify the radio. Are you asking what radio is required to use it? Personally I just use the newest leaked one, haven't had problems yet. And mflops should be similar to CM6's, as they share the stock kernel (and codebase).
Don't really know why people are so obsessive about benchmarks. Give it a try, if you don't like it because it's laggy or whatever, nandroid back. *shrug*
mikeacela said:
I can't wait to try this rom out. Does anyone know if it has the stock froyo launcher? Also mflops and radio would be nice.
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I'm running this with King Kernel, it gave me quadrant score of 1397 and 34.485 MFLOPS. All stock.
sucker4pa1n said:
TY Grikshanks for saving me on that one. AOSP vs. Sense-based ROMs and related discussion are starting to bug me. Especially when talking about AOSP kernels vs. Sense...
However, now that it's been mentioned, I did forget about IncredibleDoes' AOSP based ROMs. So thus far AOSP ROMs for the DInc are: ID's, CM's, UD/BD's, Ruby, and ShadowROM. I hope I'm not missing anything else... and UD/BD, CM, and Shadow are all based off each other. Ruby and ID are unique. Though I know all the devs talk to each other, I don't know the details on what is mutual or exclusive between them (ie if kernels are interchangeable).
Weird, I've been on 6.0.2, stock kernel with SetCPU settings as:
Screen off = 384/245 interactive priority 90
Temp > 40C = 768/128 conservative priority 85
Charging/full = 998/128 interactive priority 80
Batt < 25% = 691/128 conservative priority 50
And been doing fine throughout the day. No reboots on calls... only thing is that playing Parallel Kingdom sucks battery down pretty fast. Also makes the phone rather warm. But I've been on CM6 pretty much since it came out stable, skipped .01 and went straight to .02. Haven't tried Adrynalyne or KK's kernels yet.
From what I can tell looking at source code, it doesn't seem to be forked from anything. I'm guessing they pulled Launcher2 and modified the source as they see fit, so it's roughly based off stock froyo launcher. But I'm still learning how to play with source/github/etc.
I don't *think* any ROMs modify the radio. Are you asking what radio is required to use it? Personally I just use the newest leaked one, haven't had problems yet. And mflops should be similar to CM6's, as they share the stock kernel (and codebase).
Don't really know why people are so obsessive about benchmarks. Give it a try, if you don't like it because it's laggy or whatever, nandroid back. *shrug*
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UD/CM/Shadowrom arent just "based off each other". Looking outside the scope of the incredible, Cyanogenmod is king of AOSP considering its support of multiple devices. Crystal Clear is starting to make its way out being that the incredible is their second device. most everyone knows the deal with UD, but i dont know a thing about shadowrom. in that respect, pretty much all of these roms are based off of CM, because all of these devs, including BlackDroid, consult with the CM team to create their roms, and some use parts of it. With that in mind, youll see that just about all of these roms use Koush's kernles from CM. Most AOSP built roms for a single device can swap kernels for the most part, since most of them dont really differentiate much in the OS anyways. The only real differences between these roms is mostly the optional built-in customizations they add in settings and the launchers they use out of the box, as well as whatever theme they add in sometimes if any. CM sets a good bar with full status/notification customizing from the settings menu, along with the performance, input, sound, display settings etc. Ruby sort of followed suit but swapped status bar customizing for other miscellaneous tweaks. BD just compiled a crap load of tweaks made by other people and combined them into his rom, yet it still lacks the status bar tweaking. Shadowrom seems to have fully incorporated it along with some of his own additions, but those didnt seem to work on my phone when trying them out. couldnt even see what was in the Misc. settings cus it FC'ed on me.
for the launcher used in shadowrom, yes it is the launcher from the Nexus. it looks like he smoothed it out quite a bit though.
the only roms that will upgrade your radio are those that come leaked from HTC themselves. No rom should "modify" your radio. if anyone has tried so and youre thinking about flashing it, dont.
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in that respect, pretty much all of these roms are based off of CM, because all of these devs, including BlackDroid, consult with the CM team to create their roms, and some use parts of it. With that in mind, youll see that just about all of these roms use Koush's kernles from CM.
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UD: Yes
Shadowrom: Yes
Ruby: No
Cm6 has some stuff in it forked from Ruby. I wouldn't say Cm6 is based off of Ruby because of that. Would you?
Ruby is its own project.
cm did not invent aosp, and have their own source tree.
Ruby does not use that tree.
1st big issue I see - it doesn't scan the built in memory for images or music. Not sure how the "three testers" they were using missed this one.
Been running this for 2 days now. I flashed Kings AOSP kernal over the one that came with this rom. Runs very smooth and stable. Only one small issues... couldnt update to newest version of google street view (newest version of google maps comes installed with this rom), and camcorder does not do 720p. Camera is 8mp though. Great stable rom. Quadrant scored in the 1400 range with no overclocking on king kernal. High 1500 range @ 1.15 ghz.
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For those people having trouble with their 8gb internal memory being recognized, a great music player that someone else on this forum recommended called mortplayer recognizes all of my media that is on my internal memory and plays all my music without a flaw. Mortplayer is works great on ruby, CM6, and shadowrom, those being the only AOSP roms that I've tried so far! Just throwing it out there for anyone with media on the internal memory
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I thought it would be fun to take a poll to see which ROM folks in this forum think is best...
Baked Snacks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701685
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brandenk said:
Baked Snacks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701685
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What makes you prefer Baked Snack? I'm not doubting your choice, just curious what makes it better than the others.
Been using Calk's builds for a long time now. Seems my taste in ROMs is very similar to his. Keep in mind "the best" is extremely subjective.
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Been using Calk's builds for a long time now. Seems my taste in ROMs is very similar to his. Keep in mind "the best" is extremely subjective.
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Of course... It seems there are a few popular ones out there, and then a lot of "second tier" ROM's. What makes Calk's builds "the best" for you?
Matt_TX said:
Of course... It seems there are a few popular ones out there, and then a lot of "second tier" ROM's. What makes Calk's builds "the best" for you?
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I like the combination of performance and battery life of the kernel he chose to use. He also does an awesome job getting a bunch of graphical changes for the "cool" factor too.
Beyond the ROM, Calk contributes a lot of other things to the community. He's been making kitchen and kitchen development tools for the Windows Mobile groups for a while and I was very pleased to see him come to the Android team at the same time I made the leap. It's a big change for people like me that have been Windows Mobile sideline hackers for a while and it's really nice to see a familiar face.
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I like the combination of performance and battery life of the kernel he chose to use. He also does an awesome job getting a bunch of graphical changes for the "cool" factor too.
Beyond the ROM, Calk contributes a lot of other things to the community. He's been making kitchen and kitchen development tools for the Windows Mobile groups for a while and I was very pleased to see him come to the Android team at the same time I made the leap. It's a big change for people like me that have been Windows Mobile sideline hackers for a while and it's really nice to see a familiar face.
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Good info... I'm currently running CM6 and loving it, but I'm torn what to try next... EViO, Baked Snack and VaelPak are all possibilities.
None of the ROM's really have the exact thing I want. Ideally, I'd like a ROM that has the following:
- Sense E-mail App
- Sense Calendar App
- Sense Lock Screen
- Sense Status Bar (with Custom Battery Icon)
- AOSP Contacts & Dialer
- AOSP Messaging (SMS/MMS)
- AOSP Gallery
- 4G Support
- FM Radio
- WiFi/Wired Tether
- Sprint Bloatware Removed (apart from Sprint TV)
- ADK Laucher (easy to add after the fact)
Any ideas on how to get this? I wish I was a Dev... I would build my own
Matt_TX said:
Good info... I'm currently running CM6 and loving it, but I'm torn what to try next... EViO, Baked Snack and VaelPak are all possibilities.
None of the ROM's really have the exact thing I want. Ideally, I'd like a ROM that has the following:
- Sense E-mail App
- Sense Calendar App
- Sense Lock Screen
- Sense Status Bar (with Custom Battery Icon)
- AOSP Contacts & Dialer
- AOSP Messaging (SMS/MMS)
- AOSP Gallery
- 4G Support
- FM Radio
- WiFi/Wired Tether
- Sprint Bloatware Removed (apart from Sprint TV)
- ADK Laucher (easy to add after the fact)
Any ideas on how to get this? I wish I was a Dev... I would build my own
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I would think that this wouldn't be that tough. Try starting with a Sense ROM, pull out the dialer/messaging/gallery and whatever else you don't want, then install the AOSP apps you want. I'm sure the apk's can be found around here.
Where is the love for Burnt Droid - by netarchy?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=745738
Simple Sense ROM with great firmware, and a couple nice apps tacked on.
JTNiggle said:
I would think that this wouldn't be that tough. Try starting with a Sense ROM, pull out the dialer/messaging/gallery and whatever else you don't want, then install the AOSP apps you want. I'm sure the apk's can be found around here.
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Is it as simple as just uninstalling the Sense apk's that I don't want and installing the AOSP ones? If so, I can probably restore the apps I want from a Titanium backup of CM6. For some reason I thought it was more involved that that - especially with the AOSP Contacts & Dialer.
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I like the combination of performance and battery life of the kernel he chose to use. He also does an awesome job getting a bunch of graphical changes for the "cool" factor too.
Beyond the ROM, Calk contributes a lot of other things to the community. He's been making kitchen and kitchen development tools for the Windows Mobile groups for a while and I was very pleased to see him come to the Android team at the same time I made the leap. It's a big change for people like me that have been Windows Mobile sideline hackers for a while and it's really nice to see a familiar face.
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Agree entirely with Dissenter. Calk brings a lot to the table.
Really enjoyed Hero's early EVO work and Baked is still great. Also used Cyanogen on my G1 forever, but Calk's stuff has been stable, fast and clean (at least for me) as long or longer than anyone else on EVO. It is a beautiful thing. I had problems with most of the other ROMs, but for the EVO, Hero and Calk always seem to have there kitchens working.
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Agree entirely with Dissenter. Calk brings a lot to the table.
Really enjoyed Hero's early EVO work and Baked is still great. Also used Cyanogen on my G1 forever, but Calk's stuff has been stable, fast and clean (at least for me) as long or longer than anyone else on EVO. It is a beautiful thing. I had problems with most of the other ROMs, but for the EVO, Hero and Calk always seem to have there kitchens working.
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So, what would you say are the pros/cons of EViO vs. Baked Snack?
there is a fine line between the "best rom" and my "favorite rom"
best i have had was a stock rooted rom, granted it wasnt fast but it had everything working and no bugs that i could find ...
my fav has been CM6 ... fast and snappy ... but lacking the Fm radio and 4G i disire ...
i have a hard time finding a big difference between sense roms ... but thats just me, i'm slow on this stuff still
I like Fresh 3.2
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ThrowingKs said:
Where is the love for Burnt Droid - by netarchy?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=745738
Simple Sense ROM with great firmware, and a couple nice apps tacked on.
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Ya, where's the love?
I prefer my evo burnt for sure.
modded fresh for me. Dude is on point with his ROMs.
Gotta have my Apps2SD support.
Thinking about coming out with my own ROM based solely off of his as a base.
Evio cured my flashaholic's issues for a while, but with Baked Snack update and the Evio update its tough, i have to give the slight edge to fresh right now because of the new release, that thing is sick. I am pumped once that thing hits the street its going to be on! Too many choices is a good thing as i think the Evo is THE android device to have with all the Dev support
My two cents
1. Fresh 3.28
1.a Evio
1.a Baked Snacks
YMMV
Matt_TX said:
Good info... I'm currently running CM6 and loving it, but I'm torn what to try next... EViO, Baked Snack and VaelPak are all possibilities.
None of the ROM's really have the exact thing I want. Ideally, I'd like a ROM that has the following:
- Sense E-mail App
- Sense Calendar App
- Sense Lock Screen
- Sense Status Bar (with Custom Battery Icon)
- AOSP Contacts & Dialer
- AOSP Messaging (SMS/MMS)
- AOSP Gallery
- 4G Support
- FM Radio
- WiFi/Wired Tether
- Sprint Bloatware Removed (apart from Sprint TV)
- ADK Laucher (easy to add after the fact)
Any ideas on how to get this? I wish I was a Dev... I would build my own
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Evio = pure win
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EViO2 is the best! Everything works and its a speed demon. Its the fastest 2.2 and smoothest I have ever used.
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i can't even imagine what hero and calk can do with that new release! Damn it feels good to be a gangsta
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EViO2 is the best! Everything works and its a speed demon. Its the fastest 2.2 and smoothest I have ever used.
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which of the roms has a kernel already in it that allows for overclocking that you have been enjoying and have been stable for you?
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which of the roms has a kernel already in it that allows for overclocking that you have been enjoying and have been stable for you?
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Easy. CyanogenMod is arguably the most popular mod/rom out there... HIGHLY developed and supported. I believe it allows Overclocking to 1.5 out of the box. There's a RC2 (Release Candidate) out there for Gingerbread, that's CM7, or there's the latest Stable release 6.1.1, which is Froyo. But honestly, a Release Candidate is ALMOST as good as a stable.
the cyn roms, are they basically stock vanilla roms? sorry there are so many i am confused.
im coming from a mt4g and this G2 phone is slow in comparison (im overclocked to 1.2ghz at stable levels, using icedglacier rom from there)
does any of the roms mess around with call quality? im feeling that the G2 call quality is better than the mt4g.
If you're coming from the MyTouch 4G, I'd recommend you check out Virtuous, as well. It's a Sense ROM, so it's a bit different than stock, but out of the box it's overclocked to 1GHz (highest you can go without needing to change voltage, I believe), and you can flash the advanced kernel if you want full overclock control.
I was previously overclocking to 1.2GHz, but the last 2 versions of Virtuous I've stuck with the stock kernel (that's included in the ROM) and am really pleased with it thus far.
There are other things that can affect your phone's speed, including what's running in the background, what you have syncing, etc.
Sense rom means it has the htc crap on it right? That I do not want.
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tackleberry said:
Sense rom means it has the htc crap on it right? That I do not want.
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Yes, Sense is HTC's user interface overlay. Keep in mind that you don't have to use their launcher - I use LauncherPro, but keep Sense for the superior camera, music, and contacts applications. Just a thought, but everyone has their preferences (hence there's so many ROMs. )
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the cyn roms, are they basically stock vanilla roms? sorry there are so many i am confused.
im coming from a mt4g and this G2 phone is slow in comparison (im overclocked to 1.2ghz at stable levels, using icedglacier rom from there)
does any of the roms mess around with call quality? im feeling that the G2 call quality is better than the mt4g.
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Use either CM 6.1.1 Stable (Froyo) or CM 7 Nightly's (Gingerbread) with Pershoot's latest kernel. My G2 at 1.5ghz is as fast if not slightly faster than my friends MT4G at a similar OC level.
i use launcher pro now, im just not a fan of all the overlays they do. thats one thing about my mt4g, it sucks with all the overlay especially the contacts app and the phone app, it seems like it takes twice as long to load up.
CM 7 Nightly's INSTALLING now as i type, hoping for the best! thanks for the info folks, if i like it, ill be sure to donate a beer
edit...wifi does not work on this for some reason...
edit...wifi works, did a reboot...
I am having a problem with getting the google apps on the phone, i cant get to the market, or gmail it just opens and closes immediately, i did see there is a google addon to flash and im pretty certain how to do that from searching, but i cannot find for the life of me where that actual zip file is.
EDIT! HAHA SECONDS AFTER I POSTED ASKING FOR THE FILE I FOUND IT...HAHAHA.
Been running CM7 since nightly 8 and I keep running into issues. Not huge stuff, just problems here and there. I noticed Matted Blues supports SalvageMod, can anyone clue me into the key differences between the two? I don't care about stuff like DSP manager, phone goggles, and various things that CM7 does. I do like the customization that it allows, but I'm growing weary of the tricky issues that I have to iron out. Basically, wondering what I'll be missing out on in Salvage.
Flashing a rom is growing time consuming for me and I've had mad issues when doing nandroids or basically anything other than a FULL wipe of the phone and starting from scratch with CM7, hence my reluctance to do a quick flash of Salvage and see what's up... I JUST did a full wipe and a CM7 final flash.
Thank you in advance for taking a little time out of your day to save me a few hours, always appreciated
CM has theme engine, savage doesn't (yet). SZ has signal strength like sense, on off switch for SBC and built in HAVs adjustment.
CM has a few more tweaks that SZ doesn't but SZ is just getting started. CM also uses ADW and SZ uses the stock GB launcher.
Edit: try miui, I flashed it today and im in love with it. No working 4G yet though.
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CM has theme engine, savage doesn't (yet). SZ has signal strength like sense, on off switch for SBC and built in HAVs adjustment.
CM has a few more tweaks that SZ doesn't but SZ is just getting started. CM also uses ADW and SZ uses the stock GB launcher.
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Salvage and Savaged Zen are 2 different roms.
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dirkyd3rk said:
Salvage and Savaged Zen are 2 different roms.
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You caught it before I did.
But basically, Salvage: bare rom, no added goodies, just bare bones, no power widgets, ect. CM7: all the goodies we know and love.
teh roxxorz said:
You caught it before I did.
But basically, Salvage: bare rom, no added goodies, just bare bones, no power widgets, ect. CM7: all the goodies we know and love.
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Not sure if you're thinking of Evervolv, because that one is completely bare bones basically. I'm currently on salvage mod 1.2.1, and it does have a lot of the extra goodies, like CM does. It has salvage mod settings built in, where you can adjust cpu governor, clock speed, etc. It also has notification toggle widgets, which are easily changeable, like CM also. Salvage is a great ROM, and i can't decide between that and CM7. I keep nandroiding back and forth, haha. They are both exceptional roms, but Salvage seems to be a bit smoother on my device for some reason. To the OP, I suggest trying every rom available. There a quite a few to try and test out, and see which performs best on your phone, and which you like best.
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Not sure if you're thinking of Evervolv, because that one is completely bare bones basically. I'm currently on salvage mod 1.2.1, and it does have a lot of the extra goodies, like CM does. It has salvage mod settings built in, where you can adjust cpu governor, clock speed, etc. It also has notification toggle widgets, which are easily changeable, like CM also. Salvage is a great ROM, and i can't decide between that and CM7. I keep nandroiding back and forth, haha. They are both exceptional roms, but Salvage seems to be a bit smoother on my device for some reason. To the OP, I suggest trying every rom available. There a quite a few to try and test out, and see which performs best on your phone, and which you like best.
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Hmm well must have changed since I last ran it, back in the day...lol. CM7 runs smooth on my phone so I'm happy with it. And Evervolv gave me fcs like no tomorrow as well. But sure its been fixed.
Haha yeah, I'm speaking of Salvage and not Savaged. I know Savaged and Everlov have basically nothing added and are pure speed roms, but I like a few fun things to play with. I don't think I use enough of the CM7 things that people seem to care about (browser? phone goggles?). Either I don't know what they do or I can't tell ANY difference between them. Pretty much all I want from the rom is the CPU governor settings and the notification toggle widgets. And Matted Blues. I think I'm going to give SalvageMod a try, thank you guys! Much appreciated.
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CM has theme engine, savage doesn't (yet). SZ has signal strength like sense, on off switch for SBC and built in HAVs adjustment.
CM has a few more tweaks that SZ doesn't but SZ is just getting started. CM also uses ADW and SZ uses the stock GB launcher.
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Lol, I totally misread this. Didn't realize it until I saw the subscription email and was like ooooooohhh. I did not answer this right. At all.
At least I got one difference right (Launcher) .
I'm getting my incredible back from warranty repairs soon and it'll be on the last leg of its life since my upgrade is near and I have my heart set on the Galaxy Nexus. In the meantime, despite my love for sense I was planning on learning to live without sense by going to a more pure android rom. I've never tried CM7 so far. I would like to know if there are things that don't work well with CM that would otherwise be fine on an htc rom, like device drivers or such? or if there are some incompatibilities between how apps interact because the hardware is now not supported the same way as it was before?
also is CM7 significantly faster in its routine operation than the HTC based roms?
From my understanding, the only thing that does not work in CM7 is 720p video.
It should be as fast, if not faster, than Sense 1.0 ROMs.
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k.electron said:
I'm getting my incredible back from warranty repairs soon and it'll be on the last leg of its life since my upgrade is near and I have my heart set on the Galaxy Nexus. In the meantime, despite my love for sense I was planning on learning to live without sense by going to a more pure android rom. I've never tried CM7 so far. I would like to know if there are things that don't work well with CM that would otherwise be fine on an htc rom, like device drivers or such? or if there are some incompatibilities between how apps interact because the hardware is now not supported the same way as it was before?
also is CM7 significantly faster in its routine operation than the HTC based roms?
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CM7 is the most stripped down, fastest, rom on the market. better battery life without all the bloat. sense is all UI and easier user experience rom. i would give it a try. you will like it.
RamAir02 said:
From my understanding, the only thing that does not work in CM7 is 720p video.
It should be as fast, if not faster, than Sense 1.0 ROMs.
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i use the camera for talking pics of food, whiteboard from work and the bank app allows me to deposit checks. i dont really care about 720p. so if thats the only non-working thing, thats fine by me,
synisterwolf said:
CM7 is the most stripped down, fastest, rom on the market. better battery life without all the bloat. sense is all UI and easier user experience rom. i would give it a try. you will like it.
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sounds like sound advice. thank you.
also another couple of questions:
what kernel should i go for? i want extreme stability and compatibility.
what radio? 2.15.00.08.08?
try miui. even better battery life
^ um no
Get tiamats kernel with it he just made a governor called no lag !
Really good lockscreen from cm7 too
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=k.electron;20083718]also another couple of questions: what kernel should i go for? i want extreme stability and compatibility.
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Try chads incredikernel, set it to smartass v2 and lower the min clock speed to 128 best battery life/lag free experience you can get on this phone.
Condemned CyanogenMod V8 Vanilla all the way. Along with incredikernel/smartass2 govnah'. Smooth as butter.
First i installed stable cm 7.1 with tiamats kernel. (i had formatted everything and wiped dalvik). it was fast, but FC'ed all over the place. even the settings tab would fc. i thought maybe the adw launcher was bugged, but after going through a painful process just to get the market and titanium on there to uninstall adw, still no luck. not to mention the auto brightness service would fc so my screen would get stuck being too bright or too dim, and the phone would never shut down, just hang with the shutting down dialog till battery pull.
needless to say but i reflashed, this time with condemned v8 and chads incredikernel that comes along with it. performance is very smooth and no real FCs except for one thing but that was probably my fault. it also comes with the market so i dont have to jump through hoops to get the market. removed adw and put launcher pro on there (i understand if u hate me, i just think launcher is a bit more stable).
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First i installed stable cm 7.1 with tiamats kernel. (i had formatted everything and wiped dalvik). it was fast, but FC'ed all over the place. even the settings tab would fc. i thought maybe the adw launcher was bugged, but after going through a painful process just to get the market and titanium on there to uninstall adw, still no luck. not to mention the auto brightness service would fc so my screen would get stuck being too bright or too dim, and the phone would never shut down, just hang with the shutting down dialog till battery pull.
needless to say but i reflashed, this time with condemned v8 and chads incredikernel that comes along with it. performance is very smooth and no real FCs except for one thing but that was probably my fault. it also comes with the market so i dont have to jump through hoops to get the market. removed adw and put launcher pro on there (i understand if u hate me, i just think launcher is a bit more stable).
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Same problem I had with tiamats kernel. I did a full wipe and tried Chad's / tinys and haven't seen a problem on cm7.
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no t.v. out
hmm thats interesting. i have never actually connected my phone to a tv. i might start doing that with the nexus.
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Same problem I had with tiamats kernel. I did a full wipe and tried Chad's / tinys and haven't seen a problem on cm7.
Sent from my sexy assistant. (AMOLED HTC Incredible)
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Yeah, my phone absolutely hates Tiamat Kernels. It seems to have some kind of love affair with Chad and Tiny's Kernels though. lol
In my experience MIUI has been better than CM7. I have only been using MIUI about a week, but there are no force closes, it doesn't lose my numbers and texts like CM.
However, I can't get wired tethering too work in either. Can't install a driver for RNDIS.
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no 720p video recording and tv-out.
Everything else works and outperforms HTC Sense.
Stupid MIUI broke my power button, had to replace Incredible.
CM7 is a great rom, the amount of support it has and the skill of the development team make it a top notch rom, you should atleast try it out.
Cm7 (whatever flavor), incredikernel, ext 4 mod no limit- dalvik moved, and adrenaline shot.
-My life is a shooting range, people never change-
cm7 (+ whatever condemned brings along) has been working great now.
i've looked into MIUI and frankly i don't think i am going to even trying it. imitating iOS is not what i want to do. i have an ipod and i don't particularly like the ui aspects of ios. i don't know why anyone would want to make their android ui like ios.
Nitrious 1.4.7 ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1486126
Classic v0.1.0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312414&page=1192
Synergy ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1144447
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1) any pros' and cons' with each one?
2) What Kernels each one is on?
3) which one is more "minimalist" inregards to Apps
4) In order from best to least: Battery Life
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What I need is a ROM with working 4g, GPS and Camera
The phone is used for work.
I drive all over place, putting 100+ miles a day, so GPS is very important for me.
All my jobs are recieved via Google email.
I rather use 4g to pick my gps loc quickly and get load my emails quickly..
At the moment, I have to wait 3-5min for the email to be recieved and/or open to read. My GPS sometimes tells me, can not find my current location and it sucks. TIME is money in my line of work. Every wasteful minutes I can cut off = more money for me.
Camera and Video Recorder is another thing mandatory in my work. Uploading and sending it to corporate. Speed speed speed (4g)
During my drive time - I use my phone as a radio..
work hours - 10-12hrs a day.. so I need a rom that will benefit me the most.
I make alot of phone calls, alot of emailing, uploading pics and videos (short under 1min). I tend to stay on 4g as much as I can before I switch to 3g or turn it off during downtimes. I would like to have 4g on all day (10-12hr) before recharging. I do have a recharger in my car though, so I would say there is atleast 1-2hrs worth of charge time during my working hours.
I was told to check these 3 roms out but can't see what the difference are.
thank you in advance.
Well. I can only speak on Nitrous as I haven't tried the others. But I will say, if you aren't concerned about having the prettiest toy, its a great one. Very smooth. Expect a stock type of rom with alot of CPU speed tweaks baked in. Very similar to the stock in terms of what it gives you visually. Some nice little graphical changes but nothing impressive.
Its very good for what you are looking for. I never had a problem with the GPS. Battery life was about on par with stock. But I would recommend rom toolbox pro and under clocking the kernel .
I actually always keep this rom on my SD in case something happens crazy with the current one. That way I can always flash back to something minimalistic and stable. Give it a shot...
...I must let you know tho CM9 has been very stable for me as well and you get 4.0.4 opposed to Nitrous 2.3.5
CM9 is so far the best rom I've flashed so far. Only downside is battery life has been iffy at best.
Give MIUI from swiper a try also. 2.3.2 was very nice. Stay away from MIUI ICS builds. They've been quite buggy for me so far.
Hope that helps. GL
With less clutter here than your other thread, I will throw a loop:
Try Cyanogenmod 7.2 everything works nearly flawless. I use gps status app, and if you need more accuracy use galandy's gps fix (search for these).
You do need to flash gapps as well, for your google services. Just download the rom and gapps from cyanogenmod.com
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I don't agree with trying 7.2 cynogenmod, a great rom, but wouldn't be good for your situation. 7.2 is a AOSP rom which doesn't give you the capability of updating your prl, which should be a priority if your traveling and on the go. Out of the three roms, synergy is outdated and the developers have moved on. Classic 0.1.0 is a optimized base rom that is strippped down and meant for performance. If you like a stock feel, definitely a good choice. Nitrous is a 1.0 sense rom that's very fast, would be my choice of the three. If you want my opinion, I wouldn't choose any of the three. Go with a senseless 1.0 rom, which has sense stripped out. This gives you more internal memory, faster speeds, and makes for a fast phone. Here's my choices based on the public's opinion of what is the best out right now for our EVO.
1. senseless - Alter RC2 rom
2. sense - tommytomatoes finale
3. AOSP - Deck's Reloaded
I simply flash 00001.prl by tecknowfile.
Prl's are fairly universal imo
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Simple enough then, jump on the bandwagon and get Deck's Reloaded .44, definitely fastes rom on our evo at the moment, has working 4G, and all the google apps are inverted black to give a sexy sleek feel.
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jwitt418 said:
Well. I can only speak on Nitrous as I haven't tried the others. But I will say, if you aren't concerned about having the prettiest toy, its a great one. Very smooth. Expect a stock type of rom with alot of CPU speed tweaks baked in. Very similar to the stock in terms of what it gives you visually. Some nice little graphical changes but nothing impressive.
Its very good for what you are looking for. I never had a problem with the GPS. Battery life was about on par with stock. But I would recommend rom toolbox pro and under clocking the kernel .
I actually always keep this rom on my SD in case something happens crazy with the current one. That way I can always flash back to something minimalistic and stable. Give it a shot...
...I must let you know tho CM9 has been very stable for me as well and you get 4.0.4 opposed to Nitrous 2.3.5
CM9 is so far the best rom I've flashed so far. Only downside is battery life has been iffy at best.
Give MIUI from swiper a try also. 2.3.2 was very nice. Stay away from MIUI ICS builds. They've been quite buggy for me so far.
Hope that helps. GL
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you lost me when you said 4.0.4 vs 2.3.5 - IDK wtf ur talking about.
isnt CM9 - AOSP?
what is MIUI? ICS?
also, what does toolbox Pro do and how do I underclock a kernel? (App? if so, name)
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I don't agree with trying 7.2 cynogenmod, a great rom, but wouldn't be good for your situation. 7.2 is a AOSP rom which doesn't give you the capability of updating your prl, which should be a priority if your traveling and on the go. Out of the three roms, synergy is outdated and the developers have moved on. Classic 0.1.0 is a optimized base rom that is strippped down and meant for performance. If you like a stock feel, definitely a good choice. Nitrous is a 1.0 sense rom that's very fast, would be my choice of the three. If you want my opinion, I wouldn't choose any of the three. Go with a senseless 1.0 rom, which has sense stripped out. This gives you more internal memory, faster speeds, and makes for a fast phone. Here's my choices based on the public's opinion of what is the best out right now for our EVO.
1. senseless - Alter RC2 rom
2. sense - tommytomatoes finale
3. AOSP - Deck's Reloaded
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this helped me out alot. also I thought AOSP doesnt have a working 4g or was it Cynmod
you have me intriqued with the senseless 1.0 rom. I could care less for bloat apps and other bs. So the less, the better. With that said, senseless 1.0 = senseless - Alter RC2 rom???
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With even LESS clutter, read the threads and SEE what the differences are
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I've read each one of them, 2 of them doesnt tell me what kernel they are running and other the info that is stated, I have no idea what it means. It's not like I kept up with all the lingo and terms since I was here last time.
Last thing I remember was Gingerbread coming out.
Also, 1.5 yrs ago, each rom had a detail info of what they had. What apps they added, removed, etc... now not so much.
im slowly re-learning what is new in the evo 4g world.
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you lost me when you said 4.0.4 vs 2.3.5 - IDK wtf ur talking about.
isnt CM9 - AOSP?
what is MIUI? ICS?
also, what does toolbox Pro do and how do I underclock a kernel? (App? if so, name)
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4.04 is icecream sandwiched while 2.3.5 is gingerbread
Cm9 is based off ice cream sandwich(4.xx)
Cm7 is based off gingerbread (2.3x)
Tommy finale is based off gingerbread and so is any sense based Rom for the EVO. No ics for awhile
Miui has both an ice cream version and gingerbread version. You're going to have to search that. In order to over and underclock the CPU, you need a custom kernel. If you use tommys Rom (my current setup) I would use the underground kernel by ca1ne. ROM tool box will help with that. Or system tuner. Another good app
Here's the kernel thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1570308
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Sorry bud for the lack of a good explanation. These guys are all correct in directing you to the rom that would suit you best. Especially the last post. I was trying to say to stay away from miui ics for the time being. It's been quite buggy and laggy even with mason kernel compared to team dirts CM9. Mini is great and easy but stuck to a gingerbread base if you like it.
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this helped me out alot. also I thought AOSP doesnt have a working 4g or was it Cynmod
you have me intriqued with the senseless 1.0 rom. I could care less for bloat apps and other bs. So the less, the better. With that said, senseless 1.0 = senseless - Alter RC2 rom???
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Senseless just means that Rosie is stripped out of the rom which takes up to much space and memory. Alter rom comes with Go Launcher Ex baked in as the launcher, but you can choose any launcher your comfortable with. The only reason why I recommend Alter rom is because it is the fastest/snappiest senseless rom available. Using a2sd, I was using less than 60 MB internal space. Great for gaming and battery life. Graynode is the developer and is releasing 1.0 later this week, but RC2 is worth it. Just to clarify, it is a 1.0 sense based rom, similar to what came stock on your Evo, but the Rosie and everything sense has been stripped out of it, hence the name "senseless".