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Wifi problem SOLVED (acc'd to sprint rep)

I just had the best conversation ever with a sprint rep. This was an in-store tech person, mind you, so all of my facial expressions were more than obvious.
The conversation went like this:
Hi, my E4GT is having some wifi connectivity issues. When I try to connect, it says connected but then keeps scanning, and in fact, it's not connected at all because I can't get a webpage to...
(Interrupting me) WAIT RIGHT THERE...let me see the front of your phone, turn it around! (I do so.) Yup, that's the problem...you downloaded something to make your ANDROID phone look like a WINDOWS phone.
You mean a launcher?
Yes, it's an unapproved app, and you corrupted your whole system. You need to delete that and hard reset. Don't make it look like it's not an Android phone...otherwise you corrupt the system.
(My face has a wtf are you serious look on it at this point.) Oooooh-kay. Um, are you sure?
YES! ABSOLUTELY! Also, I bet you have checked off install apps from unknown sources, don't you?
Yes...so?
THERE YOU GO AGAIN --- COMPLETELY CORRUPTED YOUR ENTIRE SYSTEM. Now, anyone anywhere can just go into your phone and access everything. That's why you can't get online.
(Now my face has the wtf look on it as well as a little bit of anger from this rep having somehow survived this long in her life, and in doing so, disproved darwinism.) So, you're telling me installing the amazon appstore breaks our phones?
YES, it's an unapproved app, just like that one that made your phone look like a windows phone!
But, that app's from the google market...??
I BET YOU'RE TETHERING TOO, AREN'T YOU?
(Damn, she got me there.) No! What is tethering?
Someone will come up and tell you to tether...go right ahead and do it if you want, but you'll be corrupting your entire phone again and it won't work.
Ok, thanks, this has been a big help.
You bet! Thanks for coming in!

Erislover said:
I just had the best conversation ever with a sprint rep. This was an in-store tech person, mind you, so all of my facial expressions were more than obvious.
The conversation went like this:
Hi, my E4GT is having some wifi connectivity issues. When I try to connect, it says connected but then keeps scanning, and in fact, it's not connected at all because I can't get a webpage to...
(Interrupting me) WAIT RIGHT THERE...let me see the front of your phone, turn it around! (I do so.) Yup, that's the problem...you downloaded something to make your ANDROID phone look like a WINDOWS phone.
You mean a launcher?
Yes, it's an unapproved app, and you corrupted your whole system. You need to delete that and hard reset. Don't make it look like it's not an Android phone...otherwise you corrupt the system.
(My face has a wtf are you serious look on it at this point.) Oooooh-kay. Um, are you sure?
YES! ABSOLUTELY! Also, I bet you have checked off install apps from unknown sources, don't you?
Yes...so?
THERE YOU GO AGAIN --- COMPLETELY CORRUPTED YOUR ENTIRE SYSTEM. Now, anyone anywhere can just go into your phone and access everything. That's why you can't get online.
(Now my face has the wtf look on it as well as a little bit of anger from this rep having somehow survived this long in her life, and in doing so, disproved darwinism.) So, you're telling me installing the amazon appstore breaks our phones?
YES, it's an unapproved app, just like that one that made your phone look like a windows phone!
But, that app's from the google market...??
I BET YOU'RE TETHERING TOO, AREN'T YOU?
(Damn, she got me there.) No! What is tethering?
Someone will come up and tell you to tether...go right ahead and do it if you want, but you'll be corrupting your entire phone again and it won't work.
Ok, thanks, this has been a big help.
You bet! Thanks for coming in!
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Lol, now that's funny
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Damn that guy is hilarius
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Ha ha ha, it's to funny! How incompetent.
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so...did it work?

Lol... I thought she was joking but shes serious... It anoys me that i know more about my phone and other phones then a sales rep(no offense to the sales reps that know what there talking about ).
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I once had a verizon droid incredible with a screen that literally moved when you touched it (this screen hardware itself physically moved, not anything on the screen). Took it into a Verizon store and the rep seriously asked me "did you try doing a battery pull?" I was just like wtf does a loose screen have to do with a battery pull.
I don't know where they find these people. When I apply for jobs there I never even get an interview, I think I fail their personality testing during the application.

I don't even understand how people like that can get hired. You would think they would require at least some basic knowledge of the industry and products. I am actually looking to change careers and would like to get a position managing a sprint store but I can't seem to find an opening in my area because they keep hiring people like this. I have been to four stores in my area and every single one has not one person who seems to know much of anything. Maybe its just the central florida area.
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Normally, I would say this story seems too far out there, and that there is no way someone is that clueless as an employee at the Sprint store.
However, I have dealt with some of the Sprint store employees and I guess it is feasible.
Either way, thanks for posting as it was an entertaining post.

Thanks op that was classic, I seem to run into these people all the time. Awesome

I had a similar thing happen at Radio Shack. I had bought the Photon there and before my 30 days were up I wanted to trade it for our SII...on launch day they didn't have any so I told them I wanted to return it and go to Sprint to get the phone. The salesman said why...the Photon is dual core and a much better phone...I immediately told him it was none of his business and then proceeded to rattle off the specs of the SII..he went into the back room. These people are clueless!

Haha I purchased an app called HVAC Buddy for work and a sprint tech told me it broke the gps in my Moment. Wtf
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smark72 said:
I don't even understand how people like that can get hired. You would think they would require at least some basic knowledge of the industry and products. I am actually looking to change careers and would like to get a position managing a sprint store but I can't seem to find an opening in my area because they keep hiring people like this. I have been to four stores in my area and every single one has not one person who seems to know much of anything. Maybe its just the central florida area.
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All of FL, bro...I'm in the ft laud area myself, and it's harder to find a glimmer of intelligence in the general population than it is to find a guy who doesn't shave his chest here.
anyway, just fyi, it's an absolutely true story. the worst part, which I forgot to mention in the OP, is that a couple minutes before this dolt began "helping" me, I was talking with another customer who had an E4GT with some crazy problems (phone with a mind of it's own...would just randomly open up apps and close them and restart...) and I was telling her about this forum and how her problems were atypical and how she should just get a new E4GT...and then every time this stupid, stupid customer service rep talked, I had to just look over at this lady and hope she knew how completely retarded the rep was.

I hate that I am associated with these types of employees ...
-J
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zonacats23 said:
I hate that I am associated with these types of employees ...
-J
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I know there has to be some knowledgeable reps, I just haven't encountered any myself.
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In my defense, not all of us are idiots.
And a 2nd thought, ive met such people. I sometimes feel ashamed that theyre one of my own.
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zonacats23 said:
I hate that I am associated with these types of employees ...
-J
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Yeah, this. I'm sorry guys.
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Yeah, this. I'm sorry guys.
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No need to apologize on their behalf...it's the same at every job and every profession. It's just a shame that people don't say, "sorry, I don't know," when they don't know. But, on the bright side, it does sometimes make for some funny ish when they talk out their ass

Walked into my local repair center and showed the Guy my OG Evo, told him that I was having some issues with the fact that my $400+ phone had a crack in the casing near the volume and power buttons. He immediately told me "you dropped your phone and it cracked. that's not covered sorry." and proceeded to the next customer. I walked up, showed him again my phone was in an otterbox defender case, had NO signs of damage... mind you I kept the case on since day 1 and I had never dropped the phone....
He looks at me with the straightest face and says "it is because you are using a Facebook IM application which causes the problem." at this point I laughed in his face, left the store and proceeded down the block to the next repair center.
This Guy still works there....
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Oh and here's another one.
Took another OG Evo 4G to another local repair center to have the dust cleaned out from behind the screen (there was a **** ton) and the service tech puts my phone back together and broke the power button, camera, and screen and then tells me "Uhhhh it came like that sorry"
.... fail of sprint repair centers. I'm better off fixing the phones myseld
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TMO Galaxy S2 "Not part of our replacement program"?

Well i went back to stock (at least tried to) for the preperation of ICS and the maintenance update. That was a disaster. I have had over 25 android phones but i guess i thought it would be a good idea to check re-partition in ODIN cause i thought it would be an *extra good* flash. Ya now i have a FULL brick. Before i tried to reboot download mode, it said PARTTABLE missing or something like that. And yes it was a full brick there was nothing i could do.
Whats even BETTER is that TMOBILE told me to shove it! "Oh this phone is not part of our replacement program." WTF. So they directed me to call Samsung which i did and it is now on it's way there. Since when does a phone i bought on the account less than six months ago not qualify for an exchange. Bastards. Well hopefully Samsung fixes it in a timely fashion and sends it back!

My wife recently broke her screen on her GS2 and they replaced it...

Geeze man, that's a major screw up. It's posted everywhere not to check repartition. and tmo has been replacing these phones for people.
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Idk who you talked to maybe a out sourced rep but sg2 is surely part of the exchange list my bro just did a exchange on his two days ago
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So Tmobile has con another person. I think that you should tell Tmobile to shove it again and again after the lie they told you. The are the practical joking wireless company, don't be fooled by one representation of Tmobile, you have to keep escalating the situation until you find the hard to get truth with Tmobile.
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For future reference you cannot and should not ever check re-partition with out a valid PIT file. It will always result in a brick otherwise.

-Mr. X- said:
For future reference you cannot and should not ever check re-partition with out a valid PIT file. It will always result in a brick otherwise.
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I agree with you. It was a very very dumb move. But i was pretty sure there is a pit file in the same folder as i have odin and i put it in the correct box.
See i figured someone shafted me. That really sucks cause god knows samsung is going to take longer than it would have taken teabag-mobile! GRRRR.

xsteven77x said:
I agree with you. It was a very very dumb move. But i was pretty sure there is a pit file in the same folder as i have odin and i put it in the correct box.
See i figured someone shafted me. That really sucks cause god knows samsung is going to take longer than it would have taken teabag-mobile! GRRRR.
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No, no pit file
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Why would you go through all of that unrooting for an update that you will want to root ? I mean we all know what ICS looks like... i guess i just dont understand why you even wanted to do that when we have multiple Twiz flavored ICS roms that have 0 bugs and even ASOP and MIUI ICS Roms with very few bugs..

xsteven77x said:
I agree with you. It was a very very dumb move. But i was pretty sure there is a pit file in the same folder as i have odin and i put it in the correct box.
See i figured someone shafted me. That really sucks cause god knows samsung is going to take longer than it would have taken teabag-mobile! GRRRR.
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samsung had my device back to me in 5 days. i mailed it on a Monday and got it back on a Friday. brand new device not a refurb.

dude I have done two replacements on this phone You should never ever ever call tmo on the phone to get anything done period. Go to a corporate tmo store not one of those dealers a full tmo store and deal with them face to face. Those idiots over the phone are stupid and they dont care, but when you are face to face they will respect you more and try harder. And they dont just call the same number we call when you go to a corporate store they actuall get to the right people. Hell I dont even call them to change my plan I go to the store. You know how many times I just wanted to make a small change in my plan and they gave me a problem or they did the wrong thing and then I went to the store and they fixed it without a problem. I know it might be a pain in thew ass I work 70+ hours a week and I dont have a car but I still find a way Thats my two cents

If you gave tmo warranty call again they should replaxe it.
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-Mr. X- said:
samsung had my device back to me in 5 days. i mailed it on a Monday and got it back on a Friday. brand new device not a refurb.
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Hmm I've got serious blobs in my screen did the one they sent you have any flaws?
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blchff04 said:
Hmm I've got serious blobs in my screen did the one they sent you have any flaws?
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I am currently on my 4th S2 since NYE when I purchased the phone, never have I had issues getting a replacement. The only issues ive had have been trying to go around the.$20 fee since I dont have thr insurance but even that can be waived easily
My first replacement had issues so I quickly returned till I had a decent one then that one stopped charging after like 6 months.
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You'll be fine man. You seem to have a phone with a warranty. Mines from Ebay.
And its actually nice to know Tmobile does that.
Good luck.
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Android_Monsters said:
You'll be fine man. You seem to have a phone with a warranty. Mines from Ebay.
And its actually nice to know Tmobile does that.
Good luck.
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definitely! also this last time they offered me a $3.99/month for LIFETIME WARRANTY so as long as i don't have any water damage or screen physical damage, i am set well that is until the next top of the line phone comes out, and no the SIII isn't good enough to switch at least from what i've read about it

mojorisin7178 said:
dude I have done two replacements on this phone You should never ever ever call tmo on the phone to get anything done period. Go to a corporate tmo store not one of those dealers a full tmo store and deal with them face to face. Those idiots over the phone are stupid and they dont care, but when you are face to face they will respect you more and try harder. And they dont just call the same number we call when you go to a corporate store they actuall get to the right people. Hell I dont even call them to change my plan I go to the store. You know how many times I just wanted to make a small change in my plan and they gave me a problem or they did the wrong thing and then I went to the store and they fixed it without a problem. I know it might be a pain in thew ass I work 70+ hours a week and I dont have a car but I still find a way Thats my two cents
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That's funny, we've had the reverse experience.
The T-Mobile store people have frequently lied to us. When we signed up during their Valentine's Day deal they lied about the plan requirements, they lied about transferring our old phone numbers to T-Mobile that day, they told us we could downgrade from unlimited talk and 5GB data in two weeks, then two weeks later they said we couldn't.
In the end we just called T-Mobile CS the next day who transferred our numbers and changed our phone plans with no fuss at all. Now we never bother dealing with the T-Mobile store in person, my girlfriend gets pissed off just thinking about them.

rosemachinegun said:
That's funny, we've had the reverse experience.
The T-Mobile store people have frequently lied to us. When we signed up during their Valentine's Day deal they lied about the plan requirements, they lied about transferring our old phone numbers to T-Mobile that day, they told us we could downgrade from unlimited talk and 5GB data in two weeks, then two weeks later they said we couldn't.
In the end we just called T-Mobile CS the next day who transferred our numbers and changed our phone plans with no fuss at all. Now we never bother dealing with the T-Mobile store in person, my girlfriend gets pissed off just thinking about them.
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service varies greatly from store to store, and agent to agent on phone as well. But I will say this that.if you know the right things to say you can get more done over the phone
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Its so funny how people think stores have a special number to call! They have a retail line they call but that's just to enter their dealer codes they get to the same place u get to when u call!
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AJ26T said:
Its so funny how people think stores have a special number to call! They have a retail line they call but that's just to enter their dealer codes they get to the same place u get to when u call!
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Sprint Rant

Long story, but I switched to Sprint from Verizon back in March after ten years. I purchased the White Epic Touch and sure enough my problems began. I had the phone 28 days and my screen goes out. Bam 35.00 for a refurb. I have that phone for 3 months and take ICS update. Everytime I plugged it to the charger my phone would overheat. Bam 35.00 fee for the tech to do factory reset and have the same problems when I left. I woke up two weeks ago to a black screen. No response. Bam 35.00 and they sent me a new one. I woke up today with a dim screen and find out my screen is burning out so these idiots try to charge me another 35.00 and I said no way! So after arguing with Sprint for about 4 hours they finally replace it then kindly say the phone is on backorder and it could be up to 30 days to receive it. I ask if they have any black ones in stock and they basically tell me im screwed until my name pops up om the list and a phone becomes available. I dunno, but this old boys about to take his 4 lines back to Verizon. More expensive and less hassle. Sprint is so lacking I never imagined. I knew there network was bad, but figured they made up for it elsewhere. Guess not! I figured up that since march I have spent around 21 hours in the Sprint store. I also figure that all those fees had I known I could have sold this one added that amount to what I have gave Sprint for a Gs3. Sad
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ranup112 said:
Long story, but I switched to Sprint from Verizon back in March after ten years. I purchased the White Epic Touch and sure enough my problems began. I had the phone 28 days and my screen goes out. Bam 35.00 for a refurb. I have that phone for 3 months and take ICS update. Everytime I plugged it to the charger my phone would overheat. Bam 35.00 fee for the tech to do factory reset and have the same problems when I left. I woke up two weeks ago to a black screen. No response. Bam 35.00 and they sent me a new one. I woke up today with a dim screen and find out my screen is burning out so these idiots try to charge me another 35.00 and I said no way! So after arguing with Sprint for about 4 hours they finally replace it then kindly say the phone is on backorder and it could be up to 30 days to receive it. I ask if they have any black ones in stock and they basically tell me im screwed until my name pops up om the list and a phone becomes available. I dunno, but this old boys about to take his 4 lines back to Verizon. More expensive and less hassle. Sprint is so lacking I never imagined. I knew there network was bad, but figured they made up for it elsewhere. Guess not! I figured up that since march I have spent around 21 hours in the Sprint store. I also figure that all those fees had I known I could have sold this one added that amount to what I have gave Sprint for a Gs3. Sad
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Ok.
Why are you posting it here?

General Forum. Does this not go along with anything in General??
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ranup112 said:
General Forum. Does this not go along with anything in General??
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Mmmm yes... It's general but you have to understand we are average Joe's like you. We can't do do anything about it. It would be best if you take it up to Sprint forums such as the links below:
http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/
http://community.sprint.com/baw/index.jspa
Good luck!

ranup112 said:
General Forum. Does this not go along with anything in General??
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Yeah but what is your purpose? We all know how customer service experiences are. Some are bad some are good.
Are you looking for some help or using custom roms and see if some of your issues can be fixed that way? I just don't see the reason behind you ranting on a development forum. I can see this in sprint community forums. Thats all.
Edit: And I am a BIG believer in never switching providers when something is working just fine with original provider. I work in fios tech support and whenever someone tells me that everything was working fine before switching and I hate your service... I always think in my mind.. Why the hell did you switch? Save 10-15 bucks vs the peace of mind of working service? Not worth it.

BluesRulez said:
Yeah but what is your purpose? We all know how customer service experiences are. Some are bad some are good.
Are you looking for some help or using custom roms and see if some of your issues can be fixed that way? I just don't see the reason behind you ranting on a development forum. I can see this in sprint community forums. Thats all.
Edit: And I am a BIG believer in never switching providers when something is working just fine with original provider. I work in fios tech support and whenever someone tells me that everything was working fine before switching and I hate your service... I always think in my mind.. Why the hell did you switch? Save 10-15 bucks vs the peace of mind of working service? Not worth it.
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You know what's funny is 90 percent of the people that complain to you probably had to do a simple power cycle to get things working again.
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I'm a tech at Sprint and I think its kinda funny that every phone that you received craps out. I would say get TEP then you don't have to pay $35 for these issues. Don't rant about how Sprint is crap when you do not take advantage of all of your options.
Verizon does not offer on-site technicians . They would simply tell you buy another phone full price or go to asurion and pay a &150 deductible
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Well onley thing is I had one phone in 10 years mess up and they did replace it free of charge. I do have a question for you since you work for Sprint. Ive noticed everytime I go in there all the people in this store always have the latest phone. When I baught the Epic they had it. Evo LTE came out they had it. Now I noticed all three of the same people at this store carry an S3. Went by there today and two of them was showing off there Iphone 5 to customers. This is a contract store not corp. It just irritated me when the rep talked about Sprints cost going up because of exchanges on bad phones. There could be but I highly doupht these people are making enough money to buy the new phones every month. Just curious
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I would also say that I think the main stem of the problem with all the phones I have went through with Sprint is lack of qaulity control and proper training of employees.
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ranup112 said:
I would also say that I think the main stem of the problem with all the phones I have went through with Sprint is lack of qaulity control and proper training of employees.
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Sprint does not manufacture the phones , Samsung does. However that's why we have good technicians who check for liquid damage, because if we don't we send them off to get refurbished and we endup giving a liquid damaged device to someone else.
That being said that's why its good to be honest if you liquid damaged a device. But people would rather lie and hope a tech just replaces it , and screw sprint and other customers just so they can get something for free.
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ranup112 said:
Well onley thing is I had one phone in 10 years mess up and they did replace it free of charge. I do have a question for you since you work for Sprint. Ive noticed everytime I go in there all the people in this store always have the latest phone. When I baught the Epic they had it. Evo LTE came out they had it. Now I noticed all three of the same people at this store carry an S3. Went by there today and two of them was showing off there Iphone 5 to customers. This is a contract store not corp. It just irritated me when the rep talked about Sprints cost going up because of exchanges on bad phones. There could be but I highly doupht these people are making enough money to buy the new phones every month. Just curious
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I don't work for sprint but I used to work for cingular wireless and afaik the store always wanted us to carry the latest devices so we could 'demo' them to the customers... think of it as eyecandy.
In fact, I had my own phone from sprint and another device from CW, I was not allowed to use my sprint device for obvious reasons but had to have whichever device from CW visible and sometimes using a BT headset for demo purposes. If I can recall correctly, those devices were written off once another one came up.

ranup112 said:
Well onley thing is I had one phone in 10 years mess up and they did replace it free of charge. I do have a question for you since you work for Sprint. Ive noticed everytime I go in there all the people in this store always have the latest phone. When I baught the Epic they had it. Evo LTE came out they had it. Now I noticed all three of the same people at this store carry an S3. Went by there today and two of them was showing off there Iphone 5 to customers. This is a contract store not corp. It just irritated me when the rep talked about Sprints cost going up because of exchanges on bad phones. There could be but I highly doupht these people are making enough money to buy the new phones every month. Just curious
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I got 2 Epics last year in Oct, his and hers and had only one hicup in 11months, when the ICS update rolled out the wife wanted to try it, so she accepted the update and it did not go well, horrible battery life, apps not working weird charge cycles and a bunch of other fowleups, later I tried a couple of custom roms, but that was just a bandaid , phone was not a daily driver. Finally went back to gingerbread, the os that kept the phone reliable for 10+months with no issues what so ever. I had tried a couple of ICS releases myself and always wound up going back to gingerbread, needing a reliable phone on a daily basis I could not afford to leave home with a quirky phone that needs a charge every 6 hrs. I settled into a custom gb Rom that I have been running since April with no problems what so ever, wifeys Epic is on the same custom Rom. The only time we ever went back to sprint was to pickup a desk dock for the Epics.
Corporate sprint stores are usually more user freindly than privately owned stores, and I think if you go to a Corp store and plead your case in a nice manner you may get some satisfaction. The new phones the employees flash are just perks of the job, either huge discounts or free, don't let that get to you, besides it makes sprint look good. I have been with sprint since 2000 and have no complaints.
Give sprint another chance to make good. Good luck.
(No I do not work for sprint)
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Thats a good way to look at it. I dunno maby I am getting all the bad apples. My wife is still on her first. Im old and not going to say how old but I just got here checking stuff out. Never rooted or modified any phone.
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You see it was a50/50 chance, your wife got the good phone, it can't be that bad, just approach it from a different angle. Hay I'm no spring chicken myself, I got grandkids, and proud of then I am. (The oldest is 9.)
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Just my 2 cents. I got the Original Epic on launch day and never had one problem with it. Got the Epic Touch on launch day and am still using it. I have not had one problem with it. With anything mechanical there is always going to be the possibility of failure. It is just a game of chance. I can guarantee you that there are people saying the exact same thing about Verizon, AT&T and TMobile. It just happens.
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gatesmarch123 said:
You know what's funny is 90 percent of the people that complain to you probably had to do a simple power cycle to get things working again.
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No you are wrong about 90% just need to power cycle.
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No you are wrong about 90% just need to power cycle.
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I know how technical support goes... I did both tier 1 and tier 2 for U-Verse. And it's actually 95% of customers are not tech savvy so they call in for every single issue including a Wi-Fi password. Tier 1 technical support is basically a power cycle then transfer to tier 2 if the issue is still happening. Tier 2 does ALL the REAL technical support. Tier 1 is just a filter, which can't even do that correctly most of the time.
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Mattix724 said:
I know how technical support goes... I did both tier 1 and tier 2 for U-Verse. And it's actually 95% of customers are not tech savvy so they call in for every single issue including a Wi-Fi password. Tier 1 technical support is basically a power cycle then transfer to tier 2 if the issue is still happening. Tier 2 does ALL the REAL technical support. Tier 1 is just a filter, which can't even do that correctly most of the time.
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Fios is not that way. I know time Warner is the way you are describing.
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FiOS is a fiber optic network similar to U-verse in the sense that you support IPTV, HSIA, and CVoIP.
I know how an ONT works, unless there is a major issue that requires a technician to physically repair the line... it is a simple toggle or reboot of the CPE.
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Yes, sprint does suck, I've known more than any sprint tech or rep and they don't generally fix anything, water damage??? Seriously? Who cares if it's been water damaged, doesn't mean the phone won't work, that's why they have quality control refurb people... Yeah, I'm on sprint and I hate every day of it but ALL cell phone providers suck major ass and have you by the balls... I've been paying for 4g for over two years and have NEVER seen it and probably never will until my contract is up, again... Truth be told by the time I and the other 75% of America do see 4g from sprint, they'll put a cap on it and stop unlimited... If I were you and you don't like sprint, just keep going up through the chain and tell people strait up what's going on. If that's a no go, just change your prl and roam constantly until you get that "letter" in the mail... One rant to another, good luck...
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Need help making a decision...

Hey everyone.
Need personal opinions as I cannot decide for myself -.-
Recently got a warranty replacement device from T-Mobile.
It's a refurb.. -.-
My old one had a weird smudge in all camera apps as well as in the picture. Really annoying.
Well I got my refurb, it's got it's issues, 3 "ink" spots on the screen, my original had zero! I cannot undervolt by more than 25mA. My original could under volt by 150 across the board. The refurb gets very hot (approximately 100 degrees Fahrenheit with normal use) my original hardly ever broke 90. And my battery life is freaking **** with this new device. (I'm guessing heat is the issue here)
I'm really ****ing upset. Excuse my language..
The decision I cannot make is this.
Do I request T-Mobile to ship my original device back to me(it's still in transit just dropped it off today), and either 1 deal with the camera smudge, or 2 take apart both devices and swap the camera modules?
I looked all over YouTube, I cannot find anyone saying there is a warranty sticker covering any screws.
Does anyone know if they can tell if the device was disassembled? I have professional tools so I won't leave markings behind.
Simply put, I hate this "new" device.
I don't understand why companies give refurbished devices for warranty when I am paying full price for a brand new device that should last at least a year. It's not my fault something happened that was out of my control..
Thanks for putting up with my rant lol.
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Wow, that's though. I send in my Device to samsung for a fix, and they fixed it with a "replaced PBA" comment, but I saw some people say they just send another one. Hopefully it's not a refurbished. I doubt they will be able to cancel the shipping, but if they an, most definitely swap the camera modules. Having those problems on the refurbished sucks. I could have fixed mine but I sent it in hoping Id get another one which didn't die after 2.5Hrs screen on time and 12 hours running time. Switch out the cameras if possible. I myself, if I get a bad one on saturday, I'll hate my descision but Im going to go for the 16GB nexus 4. Hate the limited storage and the on screen buttons that get in the way, but heck I'm not going to live 2 years with a faulty device

elesbb said:
Hey everyone.
Need personal opinions as I cannot decide for myself -.-
Recently got a warranty replacement device from T-Mobile.
It's a refurb.. -.-
My old one had a weird smudge in all camera apps as well as in the picture. Really annoying.
Well I got my refurb, it's got it's issues, 3 "ink" spots on the screen, my original had zero! I cannot undervolt by more than 25mA. My original could under volt by 150 across the board. The refurb gets very hot (approximately 100 degrees Fahrenheit with normal use) my original hardly ever broke 90. And my battery life is freaking **** with this new device. (I'm guessing heat is the issue here)
I'm really ****ing upset. Excuse my language..
The decision I cannot make is this.
Do I request T-Mobile to ship my original device back to me(it's still in transit just dropped it off today), and either 1 deal with the camera smudge, or 2 take apart both devices and swap the camera modules?
I looked all over YouTube, I cannot find anyone saying there is a warranty sticker covering any screws.
Does anyone know if they can tell if the device was disassembled? I have professional tools so I won't leave markings behind.
Simply put, I hate this "new" device.
I don't understand why companies give refurbished devices for warranty when I am paying full price for a brand new device that should last at least a year. It's not my fault something happened that was out of my control..
Thanks for putting up with my rant lol.
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I can understand your frustration With my experience working foe Tmobile and having done countless warranty exchanges since the my touch, they will not return your original device. Unless you cannsomehowncontact ups and have them stop transit and send it back and return the one they sent you. You should contact tkobile again and tell them what happened. Afaik they will not return it back to you. When it gets to their processing center it'll get factory reset, processed and possibly put back up as a refurb if it passes all their tests. You do have the option of requesting another warranty exchange, possibly going to retention this time or a higher tier of tech support.
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I can understand your frustration With my experience working foe Tmobile and having done countless warranty exchanges since the my touch, they will not return your original device. Unless you cannsomehowncontact ups and have them stop transit and send it back and return the one they sent you. You should contact tkobile again and tell them what happened. Afaik they will not return it back to you. When it gets to their processing center it'll get factory reset, processed and possibly put back up as a refurb if it passes all their tests. You do have the option of requesting another warranty exchange, possibly going to retention this time or a higher tier of tech support.
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Thanks for the reply. I was wishing to talk to someone who works for them. I really hate the newer one they sent me. No matter what ROM, kernel, modem it lasts at most about 8 hours 2 hours screen on time. And the phone gets almost too hot to hold . If I didn't have an otter box, i prolly wouldn't be able to hold it. And the worst part is is the freaking screen spots. I get its a known issue with the super amoled but Christ the phones not been released even a year! Not to mention the o e I paid full price for was/is flawless despite the camera smudge.
I'm calling them today after work and am not going to be as nice as I usually am.. I hate this ****..
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elesbb said:
Thanks for the reply. I was wishing to talk to someone who works for them. I really hate the newer one they sent me. No matter what ROM, kernel, modem it lasts at most about 8 hours 2 hours screen on time. And the phone gets almost too hot to hold . If I didn't have an otter box, i prolly wouldn't be able to hold it. And the worst part is is the freaking screen spots. I get its a known issue with the super amoled but Christ the phones not been released even a year! Not to mention the o e I paid full price for was/is flawless despite the camera smudge.
I'm calling them today after work and am not going to be as nice as I usually am.. I hate this ****..
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I'd do that too. With the sgs2 I went through five warranty exchanges. They wouldn't offer me anything else because apparently it was the best phone they had even though they had the presale of the sgs3 going on when this happened. That's what drove me to sell it and buy a gnex. Long story short in back here.
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I'd do that too. With the sgs2 I went through five warranty exchanges. They wouldn't offer me anything else because apparently it was the best phone they had even though they had the presale of the sgs3 going on when this happened. That's what drove me to sell it and buy a gnex. Long story short in back here.
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So they want me to send this one back, and when they receive it, they will send another one back..
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If I get the original one back, does anyone know if they can tell I had it apart?
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I feel your pain. They pulled the same refurbished bs on me before too. And a buddy of mine on Verizon got sent back a completely different (and lower end) refurbished phone with their insurance.
I know it doesn't help your current situation, but for your next phone I suggest you check out Square Trade. They actually treat you right & are fair and honest. Only thing is they don't cover theft. But I know they WON'T send you back a freaking refurbished phone. I used them once and they were great.
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MotorcycleKopp said:
I feel your pain. They pulled the same refurbished bs on me before too. And a buddy of mine on Verizon got sent back a completely different (and lower end) refurbished phone with their insurance.
I know it doesn't help your current situation, but for your next phone I suggest you check out Square Trade. They actually treat you right & are fair and honest. Only thing is they don't cover theft. But I know they WON'T send you back a freaking refurbished phone. I used them once and they were great.
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Next phone I'm saying efff you to everyone. No warranty for me, no insurance either. I'm fixing it myself. Either way I'm losing money.
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elesbb said:
So they want me to send this one back, and when they receive it, they will send another one back..
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Did you call? Are they sending your original back?
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Did you call? Are they sending your original back?
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I called. And they can't send the original back. But they want me to send the one I have now back and once they receive it they will send me out another one. And they said they made a note that it is my second replacement so they said hopefully it will be a brand new device.
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What the hell is wrong with people?

I took my phone to an official samsung showcase booth (literally a huge one) at the mall today. I asked a guy if his note 2 creaks because mine does very much. He took off the back cover and put it face down on the table, reapplied the back cover by pressing it on the table and slid the phone around in the process, and gave me back a screen full of scratches. He said "Nah, that wasn't me. The phone has gorilla glass." and walked away.
I call AT&T to attempt a warranty replacement because of poor build quality. They tell me that it's a sign of physical damage and I no longer have any warranty at all because of it.
So now I have a scratched note 2 that was once spotless and a crappy carrier that won't replace it because of Samsung's poor quality control.
Fml.
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SHould have stopped the guy and said, "hey wait, dont do it that way." I mean, I would have.

I did, he ignored me. He literally stayed silent and ignored me throughout my entire explanation and the process.
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Get hold of Samsung online and let them know what happened. Hopefully you got the employees name. Tell them the location and what he did. I'm sure they will replace your note 2. Never call AT&T for that type of crap. They don't care as you found out the hard way.
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I unfortunately didn't get his name, he didn't have a tag on. He was the manager though, and I know when he was working. One rep said "here speak to our manager, he might be able to help."
If this works, time to download triangle away.
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Ask him if you could see his phone. Test out how well it will handle a 50 foot throw across the store. Then walk away. Done..
Seriously though, I'd be pissed. Id say 90 percent of the people that work in stores like that don't know anything about the products they are even selling. That's why I hate going there. They talk to you like your a child, meanwhile I know more about the stuff that they make a living selling. Blows my mind.
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I took my phone to an official samsung showcase booth (literally a huge one) at the mall today. I asked a guy if his note 2 creaks because mine does very much. He took off the back cover and put it face down on the table, reapplied the back cover by pressing it on the table and slid the phone around in the process, and gave me back a screen full of scratches. He said "Nah, that wasn't me. The phone has gorilla glass." and walked away.
I call AT&T to attempt a warranty replacement because of poor build quality. They tell me that it's a sign of physical damage and I no longer have any warranty at all because of it.
So now I have a scratched note 2 that was once spotless and a crappy carrier that won't replace it because of Samsung's poor quality control.
Fml.
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Did he have little tungsten shards on the table while he was doing that? I wasn't able to scratch my screen with a dinner fork.
Get your screen wet and scrub it real good, you might just have residue from whatever was on the table on there.

He had "brushed off" the table pretty roughly beforehand. I couldn't quite identify fine grains, but I know for a fact something was on the table. I'm a phone freak. I've never dropped or scratched a single phone because I intend on reselling them. The scratches he left are "twist" shaped or "ribbonlike" which directly relate to the sliding and twisting/panning motion he rotated the phone on while it was on the table.
Does anyone know who at samsung I should email? I don't think general support would read or bother working on a resolution to this issue..
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And this is what happens when you let Chuck Norris borrow your phone.

My question is who doesn't put a screen protector on there phone when they get it?
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I've never used screen protectors on any phone. I haven't had a display scratch either, I baby the hell out of my phones. I never put them face down either, idk why he wasn't smart enough to realize the potential damage when he did it.
He wasn't really chuck norris either, looked more like wiz khalifa Imo.
Well, here I am now trying to get this cheap screen protector to go on right to at least cover up the scratch lol.
I hope samsung does something about it, I'm really pissed.
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I just emailed Samsung's 'Voice of Customer' department with a lengthy, descriptive, and fairly intense email.
I'm waiting on a response, I'll update everyone as soon as I get it.

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I've never used screen protectors on any phone. I haven't had a display scratch either, I baby the hell out of my phones. I never put them face down either, idk why he wasn't smart enough to realize the potential damage when he did it.
He wasn't really chuck norris either, looked more like wiz khalifa Imo.
Well, here I am now trying to get this cheap screen protector to go on right to at least cover up the scratch lol.
I hope samsung does something about it, I'm really pissed.
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Ok I read thru everyone post.
Now my option for phone replacement if the scratches are not that bad. But to a phone guy like you sound like. Which is like me a minor scratch is a scratch. But not sure what state you live in.
But I would take it to a AT&T service center! http://www.att.com/esupport/article...=Warranty exchange locations#fbid=ysg3jCpnQgp
And tell them the phone keeps turning off on you or something. And they should send it thru some trouble shooting and may just replace it for you. But make sure you tell them that you really need a new 1. That's how I get mine replaced if I run into a problem..
But noticing that someone told you that your warranty was void. Not sure if they told you that at a store? But you were referring to a rep & a Mgr, so I'm sure you were at a AT&T store! Anyway if they didn't enter nothing in the computer about your phone and you have insurance on it you can get it exchanged at the service center. I've even taken a phone there that was messed up from flashing a bad Rom!
Just my 2¢...:sly:
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seriously, I would file a police report. Sometimes you can do it online and it gives you more credibility.

I was told that my warranty was void by AT&Ts warranties department, as well as Samsung when I was connected to them by the rep.
I hung up and called again to repeat the process and the next rep said my warranty was void as well due to user damage.
I may just file a police report...
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I was told that my warranty was void by AT&Ts warranties department, as well as Samsung when I was connected to them by the rep.
I hung up and called again to repeat the process and the next rep said my warranty was void as well due to user damage.
I may just file a police report...
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Wow that's crazy there. And you said that the Manager did this. Was it a corporate store? You know that makes the difference. When getting something taken care of. Personally I only deal with the Manager's when I'm doing anything in the AT&T store. I've even gotten a few rep fired for messing around with our account. Because we get a 50% discount on accessories. lol
I hope you get your problem fixed soon. Cause if it was me someone would be getting fired for carelessness. And me getting a new phone. Sometimes you have to go above& beyond. Meaning contacting corporate.. An e-mail goes a long way. To the right person.
Also you were mentioning, screen protectors. I use these and there absolutely Crystal clear!
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My question is who doesn't put a screen protector on there phone when they get it?
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If you hang around these forums often enough, you'll realize that there is a cult of users here that believe that using a screen protector is for the devil... Or some sheet.
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I also use the same as banjanman as well. I like them a lot, comparable to Real Look. And they have an offer going that if you leave a review on Amazon, then follow their instructions to tell them that you did so, you get another pack of 3 for free.
So, 6 sps for $10.. Not bad.

Not a store but done over the phone. The warranty rep spoke to a supervisor who gave him this answer, and he said that the store would do the same thing since it's been 2 months and not within 14 days. I got this repeated to me by two reps on two phone calls.
Thanks for the tip on those screen protectors, I'm about to order them myself to cover up the scratch and put one on the replacement if I ever end up getting one.
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Not a store but done over the phone. The warranty rep spoke to a supervisor who gave him this answer, and he said that the store would do the same thing since it's been 2 months and not within 14 days. I got this repeated to me by two reps on two phone calls.
Thanks for the tip on those screen protectors, I'm about to order them myself to cover up the scratch and put one on the replacement if I ever end up getting one.
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Well, my hope is that they didn't make a note on the account about the issue. So that maybe you can use the "my phone is messing up and I need a new one" story. But the probability is not in your favor.
Every time I call they ask me to hold so they can take notes for the account. So If I have to, I go to my local AT&T... Which is full of ex-walmart employees.
I don't advise it, but I've seen some intentionally brick their phones and blame it on the software update. High risk factor though.
Are you saying that this incident with the damage happened 2 months ago??

The incident happened today, a few hours ago. I meant that I've owned the phone for 2 months (and I had creaks since day 1), and I should have swapped it out for creaks within the 14 day 'buyer remorse period' according to the rep.
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