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AT&T Exchange Policy?

I found this problem with my Galaxy S3 screen. It has a weird spot on it where the oleophobic coating doesn't exist... ..I've only wiped it with warm water, like suggestions say, and it seems to have come like that. Water and steam, and finger prints, all gather there. Creating an annoying rainbow effect in the fingerprints.
I was wondering, if I asked AT&T to replace it, would that be my 30 day exchange/return? I actually bought the phone from Costco, hoping that, maybe, the Windows 8 phone would come out, and I could, possibly, get the Windows phone. Since Costco has a 90 day span, rather than the 30 from AT&T, I was wondering if returning it to AT&T, likecostco says to, if within the 30 days, will not allow me to possibly exchange my phone a month or so from now?

I believe that would be a defect and it wouldn't start a new 30 day return policy. Honestly, they may tell you to deal with Samsung for a warranty replacement
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proc_freq said:
I believe that would be a defect and it wouldn't start a new 30 day return policy. Honestly, they may tell you to deal with Samsung for a warranty replacement
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Thanks! I guess I'll just visit my AT&T corporate store and see what they say.v since I'm not sure how I'll get the correct number to call.

Learned a hard lesson

Thought my NFC chip failed on me, cm10/codename/stock rooted all wouldn't let me use NFC. Took my phone to Sprint local store, dropped it off and 2 hours later was told I need to go TEP route and was provided a tiny business card to contact asurion.
Called sprint later the same night, dude didn't even know what NFC was. Transferred me to a tech that night never answered.
Through xda, a member advised the NFC chip is in the battery. I switched my battery back to stock, and shocker, NFC was again fully functional. Really Sprint? Do you not know your product well enough to know this?
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Thats pretty sad on sprints part.

Well also pretty sad you didn't see it on the battery.
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And they wonder why their reps have reputation of being extremely incompetent.

The nfc chip is not in the battery. That would imply that every phone is capable of nfc with the correct battery. The nfc chip is in the phone, however, in order for it to work, it needs the antenna which is rather too large to put in the phone, takes up too much surface space. Thus, they use the battery as the location for this nfc antenna.
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There are a lot of "techs" who know absolutely nothing about how the phones actually work. They were just taught how to repair them by the book and don't actually think outside of the box.

THEY SELL THE PHONE AND DON'T KNOW WHAT NFC IS?! WHAT A JOKE. Why do they hire these incompetent tech support people that know nothing of phones?

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There are a lot of "techs" who know absolutely nothing about how the phones actually work. They were just taught how to repair them by the book and don't actually think outside of the box.
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yet those of us that actually know about this kinda stuff can't seem to get hired? Well I speak for myself anyway....
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This wouldnt even be an asurion claim in the first place....did the phone have obvious signs of physical damage?
Where you at a corp store or authorized retailer?
My techs are frigging awesome....but there are limitations to what they are allowed to do, and only as good as the training they receive.
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THEY SELL THE PHONE AND DON'T KNOW WHAT NFC IS?! WHAT A JOKE. Why do they hire these incompetent tech support people that know nothing of phones?
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Techs do not sell phones...or anything for that matter. They make repairs.
More and more its my belief that carriers are going the route of phone swaps though...and sending the phones somewhere in bulk to be refurbed. In the long run I could see how that would be cheaper.
Hearing NFC is still in the battery is news to me as well. I was of the understanding that after the skyrocket samsung moved everything to the back cover...go figure.
And I spend hours with this stuff lol
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00mred00 said:
This wouldnt even be an asurion claim in the first place....did the phone have obvious signs of physical damage?
Where you at a corp store or authorized retailer?
My techs are frigging awesome....but there are limitations to what they are allowed to do, and only as good as the training they receive.
Techs do not sell phones...or anything for that matter. They make repairs.
More and more its my belief that carriers are going the route of phone swaps though...and sending the phones somewhere in bulk to be refurbed. In the long run I could see how that would be cheaper.
Hearing NFC is still in the battery is news to me as well. I was of the understanding that after the skyrocket samsung moved everything to the back cover...go figure.
And I spend hours with this stuff lol
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Nope, only had it one week and is in perfect condition. And it was a corporate store, i dont go to retailers. I checked the stock battery and it does say near field communication enabled on it. So again, battery may not be where the chip resides but it does enable the feature if the battery allows it to.
The tech was one thing, all he did was wipe my phone and then reboot it. Worse was the phone rep that didn't even know what NFC was until I described it (he was still wary about it through the call saying 'try that option again, not even knowing how I was trying it out).
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dante32278 said:
Nope, only had it one week and is in perfect condition. I checked the stock battery and it does say near field communication enabled on it. So again, battery may not be where the chip resides but it does enable the feature if the battery allows it to. The tech was one thing, all he did was wipe my phone and then reboot it. Worse was the phone rep that didn't even know what NFC was until I described it (he was still wary about it through the call saying 'try that option again, not even knowing how I was trying it out).
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Ohhhhhh ok you CALLED tech support...my bad. I thought you took the phone in to a repair center. Sounds lume you did both? I know there isnt much out yet on the S3..pretty sure tear down info isnt even out there yet.
It still throws me off that someone would tell you to use insurance in a store. Within 14 days they typically swap out the phone with a new one. After 14 days they should have just ordered a new one.
1. From what I have heard call center stuff is farmed out. I hate that.
2. Seems kind of silly to me to expect resolution to a hardware issue over a phone call (just in general, not directed at you)
And yeah after reading a few articles It sucks to find that since my galaxy note on att I have been misinformed...the chip itself still resides in the battery and the antenna is on the back cover I guess
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dante32278 said:
Nope, only had it one week and is in perfect condition. And it was a corporate store, i dont go to retailers. I checked the stock battery and it does say near field communication enabled on it. So again, battery may not be where the chip resides but it does enable the feature if the battery allows it to.
The tech was one thing, all he did was wipe my phone and then reboot it. Worse was the phone rep that didn't even know what NFC was until I described it (he was still wary about it through the call saying 'try that option again, not even knowing how I was trying it out).
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Its Sprint employees like that that make the good ones have a bad name. I have been a Sprint employee (Store manager @ Preferred Retailer ASC) for over 3 years. I have watched other locations in my region fall by the wayside and have been nearly shocked in every way imaginable from some of the "help" or "suggestions" i have heard. I can say from an employee whos store location has managed a 90% CSAT average for over two years that not all are as "smart" as the one you encountered. I am sure you are aware of that but it truly upsets me to hear of some wannabe, fake technician simply trying to pass the buck with the "good ol' hard reset will fix ANYTHING" option......k done with my rant....thanks for listening.

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Ohhhhhh ok you CALLED tech support...my bad. I thought you took the phone in to a repair center. Sounds lume you did both? I know there isnt much out yet on the S3..pretty sure tear down info isnt even out there yet.
It still throws me off that someone would tell you to use insurance in a store. Within 14 days they typically swap out the phone with a new one. After 14 days they should have just ordered a new one.
1. From what I have heard call center stuff is farmed out. I hate that.
2. Seems kind of silly to me to expect resolution to a hardware issue over a phone call (just in general, not directed at you)
And yeah after reading a few articles It sucks to find that since my galaxy note on att I have been misinformed...the chip itself still resides in the battery and the antenna is on the back cover I guess
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I did both, during the day at work I brought my phone into a retail store and left it there for 2 hours. Later that night, I called in and received the "huh" service. To sprints credit, they were very helpful an my epic touch phone issues. But I was also shocked that the guy at the store suggested asurion instead of ordering me a new phone, seeing as mine was only a week old with no damage signs.
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00mred00 said:
Ohhhhhh ok you CALLED tech support...my bad. I thought you took the phone in to a repair center. Sounds lume you did both? I know there isnt much out yet on the S3..pretty sure tear down info isnt even out there yet.
It still throws me off that someone would tell you to use insurance in a store. Within 14 days they typically swap out the phone with a new one. After 14 days they should have just ordered a new one.
1. From what I have heard call center stuff is farmed out. I hate that.
2. Seems kind of silly to me to expect resolution to a hardware issue over a phone call (just in general, not directed at you)
And yeah after reading a few articles It sucks to find that since my galaxy note on att I have been misinformed...the chip itself still resides in the battery and the antenna is on the back cover I guess
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So, does that mean we are forced to buy actual Samsung batteries for our phones if we want to use NFC?
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Dalmus said:
So, does that mean we are forced to buy actual Samsung batteries for our phones if we want to use NFC?
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No, just check that they are NFC enabled. I returned the one I was using and ordered a new 3rd party that will work.
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peanut1596 said:
yet those of us that actually know about this kinda stuff can't seem to get hired? Well I speak for myself anyway....
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I feel like those of us who are good enough with cell phones probably make some stores feel like we are overqualified. Better to pretend we are herp durp until after we are hired as sales reps
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More loveliness for this topic.
So I ordered a replacement phone as sprint suggested the night I posted this. After I found how to fix the issue, I called sprint and a rep told me "just send the new phone back and you will be ok, they will accept the phone and you wont be charged."
Received phone, returned it in the postage paid envelope.
Last friday (2 days ago), I dropped the same original phone and the screen shattered. I placed a claim with asurion and was advised due to having 3 claims in a year they are cutting me off (dropped my, epic touch aniut 2 months before getting this one). Now asurion has 300 from me, I am getting my replacement tomorrow, but they do not want to invalidate my prior claim. The guy on the phone said they have to honor all claims and sent me to a sups voicemail. I call sprint and tell them this was a result of bad advice from their store and call center and am advised to call Asurion again. Wow. Wtf.
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Funny thing was I also reverted back to stock for the rep before I gave the phone (stock rooted). Regardless, if our a tech and should know about your phones, wouldn't step one be check the battery to see if it says NFC enabled? I could see if you can't get it to work after that, but...you're a tech. Doesn't help that the guy I talked to on the phone didn't even know what NFC was.
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Probly true....and I know a thing or two about fixing things....but before u just use easy out to call insurance wouldn't a better customer service aspect be "i don't know, check around as I am not familiar with the issue" or "i called Samsung and the said..." as opposed to "dunno, get a new phone"?
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exchange?

so i was wondering if i should exchange my note 2 for another note 2. today i saw on my screen a small scratch that you could only see when the screen is off. its nothing bad but considering i just got the phone less than 2 weeks ago its bothering my like crazy. i did not drop it and i think i got it when taking the phone in and out of my pocket. i ordered a screen protector last week but because of sandy (i live in nyc) most of my packages were delayed. so my question is should i return it to tmobile for a new one. i have up to nov 9 to return since thats the 14 day policy and i could just make up some bs about the bluetooth or wifi not working properly. (please i dont want a lecture about the moral issues of this but considering the price i paid and how new it is im sure most of you would second guess and consider this option)

If they notice it they won't take it more than likely

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If they notice it they won't take it more than likely
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thats the thing. you will only see if when the screen is off and at a certain angle. lol. its a very light scratch but i know its there and i cant help but keep looking at it and trying to "buff" it out. lol. i know im being anal about it but i hate scratches especially when i just got the phone.

the tmobile store in a mall in NYC said $50 restocking fee when i wanted to exchange my white note 2 for a titanium note 2

You aren't being anal. I would feel and be the same way.. I thought our phone had Gorilla Glass?.. My last phone the T-Mobile SGS4G had Gorilla Glass. I NEVER used a screen protector (love the feel/slide of the glass) and it didn't get the slightest scratch on the screen. I had that phone for over 2 years.. I would expect the same from this phone if it has Gorilla Glass.. Just saying

i would recommend that you instead of taking it to a store, call 611 and tell them that the speaker or w.e is not working. they will replace it with a new unit free of charge.

Good luck with that. My GNote2 showed up with a defective power button and I've been through four days of being on hold, different stories, denials, excuses and general corporate BS in an effort to get a replacement. I finally got another on the way (supposedly) but it was not easy and I hate to think how many hours I put into the effort.

OwenW71 said:
Good luck with that. My GNote2 showed up with a defective power button and I've been through four days of being on hold, different stories, denials, excuses and general corporate BS in an effort to get a replacement. I finally got another on the way (supposedly) but it was not easy and I hate to think how many hours I put into the effort.
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That's jacked up tmobile wouldn't take care of a defective phone they sent you. Poor CS! I hope you get a good one this time!
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OwenW71 said:
Good luck with that. My GNote2 showed up with a defective power button and I've been through four days of being on hold, different stories, denials, excuses and general corporate BS in an effort to get a replacement. I finally got another on the way (supposedly) but it was not easy and I hate to think how many hours I put into the effort.
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Really? Hmm.. Not sure what to do now.. Lol. I mean it's not worth the hassle if I have to jump through that many hoops for a new phone.. Ughhh I just got my screen protector too.. You think it would be worth the hassle to try for a really light/fine/superficial scratch?
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bapurado said:
Really? Hmm.. Not sure what to do now.. Lol. I mean it's not worth the hassle if I have to jump through that many hoops for a new phone.. Ughhh I just got my screen protector too.. You think it would be worth the hassle to try for a really light/fine/superficial scratch?
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Dude dont waste your time! Keep the phone you have! Tmobile will not replace a new one just bc your phone has a light scratch!!
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I am waiting for the "I dont use screen protectors because the screens dont scratch" crowd to respond.
That being said, I doubt the screen was scratched when you got it. Not exactly sure why you would feel ok exchanging it for something you did, even if it was an accident.
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My girl put a scratch on my phone by accident ... was very light but i couldnt deal with it.
Odin flashed a kernel and radio for another phone on my N2 and it wouldnt boot... took it to tmo (within the 14/30day period) got a brand new phone....Im keeping the plastic on it till my screen protector and case come this time

Need help making a decision...

Hey everyone.
Need personal opinions as I cannot decide for myself -.-
Recently got a warranty replacement device from T-Mobile.
It's a refurb.. -.-
My old one had a weird smudge in all camera apps as well as in the picture. Really annoying.
Well I got my refurb, it's got it's issues, 3 "ink" spots on the screen, my original had zero! I cannot undervolt by more than 25mA. My original could under volt by 150 across the board. The refurb gets very hot (approximately 100 degrees Fahrenheit with normal use) my original hardly ever broke 90. And my battery life is freaking **** with this new device. (I'm guessing heat is the issue here)
I'm really ****ing upset. Excuse my language..
The decision I cannot make is this.
Do I request T-Mobile to ship my original device back to me(it's still in transit just dropped it off today), and either 1 deal with the camera smudge, or 2 take apart both devices and swap the camera modules?
I looked all over YouTube, I cannot find anyone saying there is a warranty sticker covering any screws.
Does anyone know if they can tell if the device was disassembled? I have professional tools so I won't leave markings behind.
Simply put, I hate this "new" device.
I don't understand why companies give refurbished devices for warranty when I am paying full price for a brand new device that should last at least a year. It's not my fault something happened that was out of my control..
Thanks for putting up with my rant lol.
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Wow, that's though. I send in my Device to samsung for a fix, and they fixed it with a "replaced PBA" comment, but I saw some people say they just send another one. Hopefully it's not a refurbished. I doubt they will be able to cancel the shipping, but if they an, most definitely swap the camera modules. Having those problems on the refurbished sucks. I could have fixed mine but I sent it in hoping Id get another one which didn't die after 2.5Hrs screen on time and 12 hours running time. Switch out the cameras if possible. I myself, if I get a bad one on saturday, I'll hate my descision but Im going to go for the 16GB nexus 4. Hate the limited storage and the on screen buttons that get in the way, but heck I'm not going to live 2 years with a faulty device

elesbb said:
Hey everyone.
Need personal opinions as I cannot decide for myself -.-
Recently got a warranty replacement device from T-Mobile.
It's a refurb.. -.-
My old one had a weird smudge in all camera apps as well as in the picture. Really annoying.
Well I got my refurb, it's got it's issues, 3 "ink" spots on the screen, my original had zero! I cannot undervolt by more than 25mA. My original could under volt by 150 across the board. The refurb gets very hot (approximately 100 degrees Fahrenheit with normal use) my original hardly ever broke 90. And my battery life is freaking **** with this new device. (I'm guessing heat is the issue here)
I'm really ****ing upset. Excuse my language..
The decision I cannot make is this.
Do I request T-Mobile to ship my original device back to me(it's still in transit just dropped it off today), and either 1 deal with the camera smudge, or 2 take apart both devices and swap the camera modules?
I looked all over YouTube, I cannot find anyone saying there is a warranty sticker covering any screws.
Does anyone know if they can tell if the device was disassembled? I have professional tools so I won't leave markings behind.
Simply put, I hate this "new" device.
I don't understand why companies give refurbished devices for warranty when I am paying full price for a brand new device that should last at least a year. It's not my fault something happened that was out of my control..
Thanks for putting up with my rant lol.
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I can understand your frustration With my experience working foe Tmobile and having done countless warranty exchanges since the my touch, they will not return your original device. Unless you cannsomehowncontact ups and have them stop transit and send it back and return the one they sent you. You should contact tkobile again and tell them what happened. Afaik they will not return it back to you. When it gets to their processing center it'll get factory reset, processed and possibly put back up as a refurb if it passes all their tests. You do have the option of requesting another warranty exchange, possibly going to retention this time or a higher tier of tech support.
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monkeypaws said:
I can understand your frustration With my experience working foe Tmobile and having done countless warranty exchanges since the my touch, they will not return your original device. Unless you cannsomehowncontact ups and have them stop transit and send it back and return the one they sent you. You should contact tkobile again and tell them what happened. Afaik they will not return it back to you. When it gets to their processing center it'll get factory reset, processed and possibly put back up as a refurb if it passes all their tests. You do have the option of requesting another warranty exchange, possibly going to retention this time or a higher tier of tech support.
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Thanks for the reply. I was wishing to talk to someone who works for them. I really hate the newer one they sent me. No matter what ROM, kernel, modem it lasts at most about 8 hours 2 hours screen on time. And the phone gets almost too hot to hold . If I didn't have an otter box, i prolly wouldn't be able to hold it. And the worst part is is the freaking screen spots. I get its a known issue with the super amoled but Christ the phones not been released even a year! Not to mention the o e I paid full price for was/is flawless despite the camera smudge.
I'm calling them today after work and am not going to be as nice as I usually am.. I hate this ****..
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elesbb said:
Thanks for the reply. I was wishing to talk to someone who works for them. I really hate the newer one they sent me. No matter what ROM, kernel, modem it lasts at most about 8 hours 2 hours screen on time. And the phone gets almost too hot to hold . If I didn't have an otter box, i prolly wouldn't be able to hold it. And the worst part is is the freaking screen spots. I get its a known issue with the super amoled but Christ the phones not been released even a year! Not to mention the o e I paid full price for was/is flawless despite the camera smudge.
I'm calling them today after work and am not going to be as nice as I usually am.. I hate this ****..
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I'd do that too. With the sgs2 I went through five warranty exchanges. They wouldn't offer me anything else because apparently it was the best phone they had even though they had the presale of the sgs3 going on when this happened. That's what drove me to sell it and buy a gnex. Long story short in back here.
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I'd do that too. With the sgs2 I went through five warranty exchanges. They wouldn't offer me anything else because apparently it was the best phone they had even though they had the presale of the sgs3 going on when this happened. That's what drove me to sell it and buy a gnex. Long story short in back here.
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So they want me to send this one back, and when they receive it, they will send another one back..
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If I get the original one back, does anyone know if they can tell I had it apart?
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I feel your pain. They pulled the same refurbished bs on me before too. And a buddy of mine on Verizon got sent back a completely different (and lower end) refurbished phone with their insurance.
I know it doesn't help your current situation, but for your next phone I suggest you check out Square Trade. They actually treat you right & are fair and honest. Only thing is they don't cover theft. But I know they WON'T send you back a freaking refurbished phone. I used them once and they were great.
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I feel your pain. They pulled the same refurbished bs on me before too. And a buddy of mine on Verizon got sent back a completely different (and lower end) refurbished phone with their insurance.
I know it doesn't help your current situation, but for your next phone I suggest you check out Square Trade. They actually treat you right & are fair and honest. Only thing is they don't cover theft. But I know they WON'T send you back a freaking refurbished phone. I used them once and they were great.
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Next phone I'm saying efff you to everyone. No warranty for me, no insurance either. I'm fixing it myself. Either way I'm losing money.
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elesbb said:
So they want me to send this one back, and when they receive it, they will send another one back..
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Did you call? Are they sending your original back?
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monkeypaws said:
Did you call? Are they sending your original back?
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I called. And they can't send the original back. But they want me to send the one I have now back and once they receive it they will send me out another one. And they said they made a note that it is my second replacement so they said hopefully it will be a brand new device.
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Broken plastic trim

Factory defect or are they going to say I caused this? the phone was never dropped and shows no signs of being dropped. I can only assume this is a result of taking my phone out of the case often. I have a tech21 case and I do take the phone out daily. Either way T-Mobile said they would credit me the charge if any. I just wanted to get some ideas on how this happened and what you think they will say caused it.
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Well it's plastic, weak plastic for that matter. I remember that my Note 2 trim was damaged from removing a stiff TPU case a few times.
Maybe Samsung should quit producing theses phones with plastic trims.

Mine broke in the exact same place yesterday. I haven't used a case much at all but I did think that when I have the taking in and out might be the reason.
I never got insurance with t mobile so didn't think about taking in. I guess I can live with it for now. Maybe put a case on
Grande Note 3

That type of breakage is from user error.
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princeasi said:
That type of breakage is from user error.
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And that post was from an idiot. Unless you can prove your comments please leave them to yourself. Still laughing as I finish this post. I Used the phone to make calls improperly..... my kung fu grip is too strong?

.....but your the one with a broken note 3. Now it's ugly lolll good day to you sir ?
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True, I dinged my volume rocker to the point that it bent. Took it back to Costco (you get 90 days return there) and swapped it out for a new one. I hated just knowing my volume rocker was dinged on a brand new note 3.
My advice working for tmobile tech support (the guys that exchange your phone). Your worrying too much, this is a manufacturer defect. They will not charge you a out of warranty fee as long as the rep notes that it NOT user error.
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princeasi said:
.....but your the one with a broken note 3. Now it's ugly lolll good day to you sir ?
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Learn to read. My NEW one is coming today and I will not have to pay the deductible. troll feeding over.

hucesar1017 said:
True, I dinged my volume rocker to the point that it bent. Took it back to Costco (you get 90 days return there) and swapped it out for a new one. I hated just knowing my volume rocker was dinged on a brand new note 3.
My advice working for tmobile tech support (the guys that exchange your phone). Your worrying too much, this is a manufacturer defect. They will not charge you a out of warranty fee as long as the rep notes that it NOT user error.
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The Rep was some old lady that i have to repeat my name to 3 times. I don't even think she understood what the exact damage was. Good thing is she said i would be credited if i was charged.

flexte said:
Learn to read. My NEW one is coming today and I will not have to pay the deductible. troll feeding over.
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No matter how many times you may throw insults, the fact of the matter is, that damage is from user error, and now you'll be receiving a refurbished phone that someone else probably abused, like the one pictured in the 1st post lol. Good luck on your refurbished phone ?
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My first one did the same thing and I didn't know what happened. I sent it back and got a replacement
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PrettyPryncess said:
My first one did the same thing and I didn't know what happened. I sent it back and got a replacement
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How's the new one you got?

Mine lasted 6 months not a scratch, no chipping and worked fine until this happened over the weekend. if it is happening it to everyone in the same place its a stress area that wasn't picked up during testing. I can only assume it had to do with case removal. Can someone else that did not have this problem confirm they did or did not remove the phone from a tight case on a regular basis? A store rep looked at mine and asked if i sat on the phone which I never have.

How did you get your phone replaced? Does t mobile have insurance for this sort of stuff?
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Not trying to be a [email protected] but if you broke it from removing a "tight" case, then it's your fault. If the case was other than an official Samsung product, it's your fault. It's a defect if you open the box and the crack was there, or suddenly you looked at it and the breakage manifested before eyes without your intervention none whatsoever. Anything else, it's user error!
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I have a business account and have been with tmobile for years so the gave me a one time replacement free of charge. As far as explaining to them how it happened i have no clue. User error ks hard to phathom because these phones should me able to be taken in and out of the case i bought from tmobile. I am not even sure thats how it happened because it did not break in front of my eyes. Good luck. And to the troll if a refurbished phone bothers you how do uou have sex with women other than virgins. That beat up ***** has got to bother u more than a previously used phone.

Well now I wont be surprised in the future when this happens to my phone too.

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I have a business account and have been with tmobile for years so the gave me a one time replacement free of charge. As far as explaining to them how it happened i have no clue. User error ks hard to phathom because these phones should me able to be taken in and out of the case i bought from tmobile. I am not even sure thats how it happened because it did not break in front of my eyes. Good luck. And to the troll if a refurbished phone bothers you how do uou have sex with women other than virgins. That beat up ***** has got to bother u more than a previously used phone.
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In my statements, I never implied any similarities between women and material objects, YOU did! I place women on a much higher pedestal than that! I'd also like to add that I've never had a problem accepting a refurbished phone over a new "only" and "only" if I know for a fact that it'll be a greater gain for me to trade in my original unit which I know has only been used by me. You on the other hand allowed your phone to get borked. Next you come here and post photos which clearly shows the breakage was caused from some type of stress or tension applied wrongly, which you are responsible for, and you wanna shift blame and yell defect! You defected the phone by not being careful as you should've. But hey there's no reason to be mad. You got you a refurbished Note 3 which more than likely most of its mileage are from the previous owner's bathroom usage, but I guess we'll never exactly know that, but hey as long as it works, right lol? ?
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flexte said:
... Can someone else that did not have this problem confirm they did or did not remove the phone from a tight case on a regular basis? A store rep looked at mine and asked if i sat on the phone which I never have.
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I've not had this problem. I rarely take it out of the case. Pretty much the only time would be to do a battery pull which is seldom. Case was a slip on type which is fairly tight.
No breaks on any parts so far and I've had the phone since Oct. I don't use the Stylus often either though.

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In my statements, I never implied any similarities between women and material objects, YOU did! I place women on a much higher pedestal than that! I'd also like to add that I've never had a problem accepting a refurbished phone over a new "only" and "only" if I know for a fact that it'll be a greater gain for me to trade in my original unit which I know has only been used by me. You on the other hand allowed your phone to get borked. Next you come here and post photos which clearly shows the breakage was caused from some type of stress or tension applied wrongly, which you are responsible for, and you wanna shift blame and yell defect! You defected the phone by not being careful as you should've. But hey there's no reason to be mad. You got you a refurbished Note 3 which more than likely most of its mileage are from the previous owner's bathroom usage, but I guess we'll never exactly know that, but hey as long as it works, right lol? ?
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Hey tough guy check your PM