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Wifi problem SOLVED (acc'd to sprint rep)

I just had the best conversation ever with a sprint rep. This was an in-store tech person, mind you, so all of my facial expressions were more than obvious.
The conversation went like this:
Hi, my E4GT is having some wifi connectivity issues. When I try to connect, it says connected but then keeps scanning, and in fact, it's not connected at all because I can't get a webpage to...
(Interrupting me) WAIT RIGHT THERE...let me see the front of your phone, turn it around! (I do so.) Yup, that's the problem...you downloaded something to make your ANDROID phone look like a WINDOWS phone.
You mean a launcher?
Yes, it's an unapproved app, and you corrupted your whole system. You need to delete that and hard reset. Don't make it look like it's not an Android phone...otherwise you corrupt the system.
(My face has a wtf are you serious look on it at this point.) Oooooh-kay. Um, are you sure?
YES! ABSOLUTELY! Also, I bet you have checked off install apps from unknown sources, don't you?
Yes...so?
THERE YOU GO AGAIN --- COMPLETELY CORRUPTED YOUR ENTIRE SYSTEM. Now, anyone anywhere can just go into your phone and access everything. That's why you can't get online.
(Now my face has the wtf look on it as well as a little bit of anger from this rep having somehow survived this long in her life, and in doing so, disproved darwinism.) So, you're telling me installing the amazon appstore breaks our phones?
YES, it's an unapproved app, just like that one that made your phone look like a windows phone!
But, that app's from the google market...??
I BET YOU'RE TETHERING TOO, AREN'T YOU?
(Damn, she got me there.) No! What is tethering?
Someone will come up and tell you to tether...go right ahead and do it if you want, but you'll be corrupting your entire phone again and it won't work.
Ok, thanks, this has been a big help.
You bet! Thanks for coming in!

Erislover said:
I just had the best conversation ever with a sprint rep. This was an in-store tech person, mind you, so all of my facial expressions were more than obvious.
The conversation went like this:
Hi, my E4GT is having some wifi connectivity issues. When I try to connect, it says connected but then keeps scanning, and in fact, it's not connected at all because I can't get a webpage to...
(Interrupting me) WAIT RIGHT THERE...let me see the front of your phone, turn it around! (I do so.) Yup, that's the problem...you downloaded something to make your ANDROID phone look like a WINDOWS phone.
You mean a launcher?
Yes, it's an unapproved app, and you corrupted your whole system. You need to delete that and hard reset. Don't make it look like it's not an Android phone...otherwise you corrupt the system.
(My face has a wtf are you serious look on it at this point.) Oooooh-kay. Um, are you sure?
YES! ABSOLUTELY! Also, I bet you have checked off install apps from unknown sources, don't you?
Yes...so?
THERE YOU GO AGAIN --- COMPLETELY CORRUPTED YOUR ENTIRE SYSTEM. Now, anyone anywhere can just go into your phone and access everything. That's why you can't get online.
(Now my face has the wtf look on it as well as a little bit of anger from this rep having somehow survived this long in her life, and in doing so, disproved darwinism.) So, you're telling me installing the amazon appstore breaks our phones?
YES, it's an unapproved app, just like that one that made your phone look like a windows phone!
But, that app's from the google market...??
I BET YOU'RE TETHERING TOO, AREN'T YOU?
(Damn, she got me there.) No! What is tethering?
Someone will come up and tell you to tether...go right ahead and do it if you want, but you'll be corrupting your entire phone again and it won't work.
Ok, thanks, this has been a big help.
You bet! Thanks for coming in!
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Lol, now that's funny
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Damn that guy is hilarius
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Ha ha ha, it's to funny! How incompetent.
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so...did it work?

Lol... I thought she was joking but shes serious... It anoys me that i know more about my phone and other phones then a sales rep(no offense to the sales reps that know what there talking about ).
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I once had a verizon droid incredible with a screen that literally moved when you touched it (this screen hardware itself physically moved, not anything on the screen). Took it into a Verizon store and the rep seriously asked me "did you try doing a battery pull?" I was just like wtf does a loose screen have to do with a battery pull.
I don't know where they find these people. When I apply for jobs there I never even get an interview, I think I fail their personality testing during the application.

I don't even understand how people like that can get hired. You would think they would require at least some basic knowledge of the industry and products. I am actually looking to change careers and would like to get a position managing a sprint store but I can't seem to find an opening in my area because they keep hiring people like this. I have been to four stores in my area and every single one has not one person who seems to know much of anything. Maybe its just the central florida area.
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Normally, I would say this story seems too far out there, and that there is no way someone is that clueless as an employee at the Sprint store.
However, I have dealt with some of the Sprint store employees and I guess it is feasible.
Either way, thanks for posting as it was an entertaining post.

Thanks op that was classic, I seem to run into these people all the time. Awesome

I had a similar thing happen at Radio Shack. I had bought the Photon there and before my 30 days were up I wanted to trade it for our SII...on launch day they didn't have any so I told them I wanted to return it and go to Sprint to get the phone. The salesman said why...the Photon is dual core and a much better phone...I immediately told him it was none of his business and then proceeded to rattle off the specs of the SII..he went into the back room. These people are clueless!

Haha I purchased an app called HVAC Buddy for work and a sprint tech told me it broke the gps in my Moment. Wtf
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smark72 said:
I don't even understand how people like that can get hired. You would think they would require at least some basic knowledge of the industry and products. I am actually looking to change careers and would like to get a position managing a sprint store but I can't seem to find an opening in my area because they keep hiring people like this. I have been to four stores in my area and every single one has not one person who seems to know much of anything. Maybe its just the central florida area.
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All of FL, bro...I'm in the ft laud area myself, and it's harder to find a glimmer of intelligence in the general population than it is to find a guy who doesn't shave his chest here.
anyway, just fyi, it's an absolutely true story. the worst part, which I forgot to mention in the OP, is that a couple minutes before this dolt began "helping" me, I was talking with another customer who had an E4GT with some crazy problems (phone with a mind of it's own...would just randomly open up apps and close them and restart...) and I was telling her about this forum and how her problems were atypical and how she should just get a new E4GT...and then every time this stupid, stupid customer service rep talked, I had to just look over at this lady and hope she knew how completely retarded the rep was.

I hate that I am associated with these types of employees ...
-J
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zonacats23 said:
I hate that I am associated with these types of employees ...
-J
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I know there has to be some knowledgeable reps, I just haven't encountered any myself.
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In my defense, not all of us are idiots.
And a 2nd thought, ive met such people. I sometimes feel ashamed that theyre one of my own.
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zonacats23 said:
I hate that I am associated with these types of employees ...
-J
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Yeah, this. I'm sorry guys.
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squshy 7 said:
Yeah, this. I'm sorry guys.
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No need to apologize on their behalf...it's the same at every job and every profession. It's just a shame that people don't say, "sorry, I don't know," when they don't know. But, on the bright side, it does sometimes make for some funny ish when they talk out their ass

Walked into my local repair center and showed the Guy my OG Evo, told him that I was having some issues with the fact that my $400+ phone had a crack in the casing near the volume and power buttons. He immediately told me "you dropped your phone and it cracked. that's not covered sorry." and proceeded to the next customer. I walked up, showed him again my phone was in an otterbox defender case, had NO signs of damage... mind you I kept the case on since day 1 and I had never dropped the phone....
He looks at me with the straightest face and says "it is because you are using a Facebook IM application which causes the problem." at this point I laughed in his face, left the store and proceeded down the block to the next repair center.
This Guy still works there....
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Oh and here's another one.
Took another OG Evo 4G to another local repair center to have the dust cleaned out from behind the screen (there was a **** ton) and the service tech puts my phone back together and broke the power button, camera, and screen and then tells me "Uhhhh it came like that sorry"
.... fail of sprint repair centers. I'm better off fixing the phones myseld
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Best Buy screwed up

Ok, so I got this phone on release day from BB. Had it for about two weeks and got a small crack in the screen. Took it bad to BB to use the insurance, and they said it should only take like three or four days to send it out and fix it. Needless to say, it didn't. I went round and round with them for three weeks, calling a couple times a week to get the repair status, and they could never tell me anything more than that it was still at the service center waiting on approval. Four days before the 30 day mark, I called the 888-best buy number and complained about it taking so long to fix a cracked screen , they called my local store and talked then in to just replacing it that day (four days early from 30 days). Cool right?
Well, that was almost three weeks ago. Today, my wife gets a call from our local BB (the account is in her name), and send me this email earlier:
"They just called and said your phone cannot be fixed so they want to replace it with a new one!! LMAO.
I said I’m pretty sure he received his new phone already and they said we show that there was no credit given to this account. I said okay well I will
contact my husband and have him call you. They show no record of you getting a new phone or crediting you!!! UNBELIEVABLE."
Should I give it a shot? Then she could have this one without having to use her upgrade! Lol
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djjroc007 said:
Ok, so I got this phone on release day from BB. Had it for about two weeks and got a small crack in the screen. Took it bad to BB to use the insurance, and they said it should only take like three or four days to send it out and fix it. Needless to say, it didn't. I went round and round with them for three weeks, calling a couple times a week to get the repair status, and they could never tell me anything more than that it was still at the service center waiting on approval. Four days before the 30 day mark, I called the 888-best buy number and complained about it taking so long to fix a cracked screen , they called my local store and talked then in to just replacing it that day (four days early from 30 days). Cool right?
Well, that was almost three weeks ago. Today, my wife gets a call from our local BB (the account is in her name), and send me this email earlier:
"They just called and said your phone cannot be fixed so they want to replace it with a new one!! LMAO.
I said I’m pretty sure he received his new phone already and they said we show that there was no credit given to this account. I said okay well I will
contact my husband and have him call you. They show no record of you getting a new phone or crediting you!!! UNBELIEVABLE."
Should I give it a shot? Then she could have this one without having to use her upgrade! Lol
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You live in Detroit, so sure give it a shot.

Don't think it will work as you had a loaner phone from them, that you returned to them already right??

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Don't think it will work as you had a loaner phone from them, that you returned to them already right??
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No, never got the loaner phone cause we have four lines on our account. One of them we don't use, so I just used that line during that time and refused the loaner
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djjroc007 said:
No, never got the loaner phone cause we have four lines on our account. One of them we don't use, so I just used that line during that time and refused the loaner
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I'd give it a go... but I've been told I'm morally corrupt lol
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Lol...I guess it's not really crooked or scamming them, if they are offering me a new one. Just taking advantage of their ignorance.
I just don't get how they have no record of replacing it already. Wonder if they could just ship it to my house and I'll just esn swap it on sprints site.
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Consider it a little something for your troubles. Congtrats

For all the times i see bestbuy eff someone over themselves, id do it right now. Although, this will come back to haunt you somehow.:angel:

mrg02d said:
For all the times i see bestbuy eff someone over themselves, id do it right now. Although, this will come back to haunt you somehow.:angel:
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I hope not. That's what I was wondering too. I'd hate for them to figure out it and try to charge me for the device or something. Then again, it would be after the fact. I'm going to call him tomorrow and see what the deal is. But, if there is no record of it...well....sorry bout your bad luck BB! I guess he asked how she wanted to handle it, so maybe I could have them ship it to the house. Depending on who is working that day, they may recognize me if I went in, and the wife is a terrible liar so she's to scared to go.
Geek squad sent me a $50 gift card they sent me after calling them to complain, so maybe I'll wander through and check it out.
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Hell, I'd go pick it up and then turn around and sell it.

Your not going to be able sleep at night, you will constantly pace back and forth wondering...what if...

Nah, they deserve it
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Sprint Rant

Long story, but I switched to Sprint from Verizon back in March after ten years. I purchased the White Epic Touch and sure enough my problems began. I had the phone 28 days and my screen goes out. Bam 35.00 for a refurb. I have that phone for 3 months and take ICS update. Everytime I plugged it to the charger my phone would overheat. Bam 35.00 fee for the tech to do factory reset and have the same problems when I left. I woke up two weeks ago to a black screen. No response. Bam 35.00 and they sent me a new one. I woke up today with a dim screen and find out my screen is burning out so these idiots try to charge me another 35.00 and I said no way! So after arguing with Sprint for about 4 hours they finally replace it then kindly say the phone is on backorder and it could be up to 30 days to receive it. I ask if they have any black ones in stock and they basically tell me im screwed until my name pops up om the list and a phone becomes available. I dunno, but this old boys about to take his 4 lines back to Verizon. More expensive and less hassle. Sprint is so lacking I never imagined. I knew there network was bad, but figured they made up for it elsewhere. Guess not! I figured up that since march I have spent around 21 hours in the Sprint store. I also figure that all those fees had I known I could have sold this one added that amount to what I have gave Sprint for a Gs3. Sad
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ranup112 said:
Long story, but I switched to Sprint from Verizon back in March after ten years. I purchased the White Epic Touch and sure enough my problems began. I had the phone 28 days and my screen goes out. Bam 35.00 for a refurb. I have that phone for 3 months and take ICS update. Everytime I plugged it to the charger my phone would overheat. Bam 35.00 fee for the tech to do factory reset and have the same problems when I left. I woke up two weeks ago to a black screen. No response. Bam 35.00 and they sent me a new one. I woke up today with a dim screen and find out my screen is burning out so these idiots try to charge me another 35.00 and I said no way! So after arguing with Sprint for about 4 hours they finally replace it then kindly say the phone is on backorder and it could be up to 30 days to receive it. I ask if they have any black ones in stock and they basically tell me im screwed until my name pops up om the list and a phone becomes available. I dunno, but this old boys about to take his 4 lines back to Verizon. More expensive and less hassle. Sprint is so lacking I never imagined. I knew there network was bad, but figured they made up for it elsewhere. Guess not! I figured up that since march I have spent around 21 hours in the Sprint store. I also figure that all those fees had I known I could have sold this one added that amount to what I have gave Sprint for a Gs3. Sad
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Ok.
Why are you posting it here?

General Forum. Does this not go along with anything in General??
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ranup112 said:
General Forum. Does this not go along with anything in General??
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Mmmm yes... It's general but you have to understand we are average Joe's like you. We can't do do anything about it. It would be best if you take it up to Sprint forums such as the links below:
http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/
http://community.sprint.com/baw/index.jspa
Good luck!

ranup112 said:
General Forum. Does this not go along with anything in General??
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Yeah but what is your purpose? We all know how customer service experiences are. Some are bad some are good.
Are you looking for some help or using custom roms and see if some of your issues can be fixed that way? I just don't see the reason behind you ranting on a development forum. I can see this in sprint community forums. Thats all.
Edit: And I am a BIG believer in never switching providers when something is working just fine with original provider. I work in fios tech support and whenever someone tells me that everything was working fine before switching and I hate your service... I always think in my mind.. Why the hell did you switch? Save 10-15 bucks vs the peace of mind of working service? Not worth it.

BluesRulez said:
Yeah but what is your purpose? We all know how customer service experiences are. Some are bad some are good.
Are you looking for some help or using custom roms and see if some of your issues can be fixed that way? I just don't see the reason behind you ranting on a development forum. I can see this in sprint community forums. Thats all.
Edit: And I am a BIG believer in never switching providers when something is working just fine with original provider. I work in fios tech support and whenever someone tells me that everything was working fine before switching and I hate your service... I always think in my mind.. Why the hell did you switch? Save 10-15 bucks vs the peace of mind of working service? Not worth it.
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You know what's funny is 90 percent of the people that complain to you probably had to do a simple power cycle to get things working again.
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I'm a tech at Sprint and I think its kinda funny that every phone that you received craps out. I would say get TEP then you don't have to pay $35 for these issues. Don't rant about how Sprint is crap when you do not take advantage of all of your options.
Verizon does not offer on-site technicians . They would simply tell you buy another phone full price or go to asurion and pay a &150 deductible
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Well onley thing is I had one phone in 10 years mess up and they did replace it free of charge. I do have a question for you since you work for Sprint. Ive noticed everytime I go in there all the people in this store always have the latest phone. When I baught the Epic they had it. Evo LTE came out they had it. Now I noticed all three of the same people at this store carry an S3. Went by there today and two of them was showing off there Iphone 5 to customers. This is a contract store not corp. It just irritated me when the rep talked about Sprints cost going up because of exchanges on bad phones. There could be but I highly doupht these people are making enough money to buy the new phones every month. Just curious
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I would also say that I think the main stem of the problem with all the phones I have went through with Sprint is lack of qaulity control and proper training of employees.
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ranup112 said:
I would also say that I think the main stem of the problem with all the phones I have went through with Sprint is lack of qaulity control and proper training of employees.
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Sprint does not manufacture the phones , Samsung does. However that's why we have good technicians who check for liquid damage, because if we don't we send them off to get refurbished and we endup giving a liquid damaged device to someone else.
That being said that's why its good to be honest if you liquid damaged a device. But people would rather lie and hope a tech just replaces it , and screw sprint and other customers just so they can get something for free.
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ranup112 said:
Well onley thing is I had one phone in 10 years mess up and they did replace it free of charge. I do have a question for you since you work for Sprint. Ive noticed everytime I go in there all the people in this store always have the latest phone. When I baught the Epic they had it. Evo LTE came out they had it. Now I noticed all three of the same people at this store carry an S3. Went by there today and two of them was showing off there Iphone 5 to customers. This is a contract store not corp. It just irritated me when the rep talked about Sprints cost going up because of exchanges on bad phones. There could be but I highly doupht these people are making enough money to buy the new phones every month. Just curious
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I don't work for sprint but I used to work for cingular wireless and afaik the store always wanted us to carry the latest devices so we could 'demo' them to the customers... think of it as eyecandy.
In fact, I had my own phone from sprint and another device from CW, I was not allowed to use my sprint device for obvious reasons but had to have whichever device from CW visible and sometimes using a BT headset for demo purposes. If I can recall correctly, those devices were written off once another one came up.

ranup112 said:
Well onley thing is I had one phone in 10 years mess up and they did replace it free of charge. I do have a question for you since you work for Sprint. Ive noticed everytime I go in there all the people in this store always have the latest phone. When I baught the Epic they had it. Evo LTE came out they had it. Now I noticed all three of the same people at this store carry an S3. Went by there today and two of them was showing off there Iphone 5 to customers. This is a contract store not corp. It just irritated me when the rep talked about Sprints cost going up because of exchanges on bad phones. There could be but I highly doupht these people are making enough money to buy the new phones every month. Just curious
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I got 2 Epics last year in Oct, his and hers and had only one hicup in 11months, when the ICS update rolled out the wife wanted to try it, so she accepted the update and it did not go well, horrible battery life, apps not working weird charge cycles and a bunch of other fowleups, later I tried a couple of custom roms, but that was just a bandaid , phone was not a daily driver. Finally went back to gingerbread, the os that kept the phone reliable for 10+months with no issues what so ever. I had tried a couple of ICS releases myself and always wound up going back to gingerbread, needing a reliable phone on a daily basis I could not afford to leave home with a quirky phone that needs a charge every 6 hrs. I settled into a custom gb Rom that I have been running since April with no problems what so ever, wifeys Epic is on the same custom Rom. The only time we ever went back to sprint was to pickup a desk dock for the Epics.
Corporate sprint stores are usually more user freindly than privately owned stores, and I think if you go to a Corp store and plead your case in a nice manner you may get some satisfaction. The new phones the employees flash are just perks of the job, either huge discounts or free, don't let that get to you, besides it makes sprint look good. I have been with sprint since 2000 and have no complaints.
Give sprint another chance to make good. Good luck.
(No I do not work for sprint)
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Thats a good way to look at it. I dunno maby I am getting all the bad apples. My wife is still on her first. Im old and not going to say how old but I just got here checking stuff out. Never rooted or modified any phone.
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You see it was a50/50 chance, your wife got the good phone, it can't be that bad, just approach it from a different angle. Hay I'm no spring chicken myself, I got grandkids, and proud of then I am. (The oldest is 9.)
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Just my 2 cents. I got the Original Epic on launch day and never had one problem with it. Got the Epic Touch on launch day and am still using it. I have not had one problem with it. With anything mechanical there is always going to be the possibility of failure. It is just a game of chance. I can guarantee you that there are people saying the exact same thing about Verizon, AT&T and TMobile. It just happens.
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gatesmarch123 said:
You know what's funny is 90 percent of the people that complain to you probably had to do a simple power cycle to get things working again.
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No you are wrong about 90% just need to power cycle.
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BluesRulez said:
No you are wrong about 90% just need to power cycle.
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I know how technical support goes... I did both tier 1 and tier 2 for U-Verse. And it's actually 95% of customers are not tech savvy so they call in for every single issue including a Wi-Fi password. Tier 1 technical support is basically a power cycle then transfer to tier 2 if the issue is still happening. Tier 2 does ALL the REAL technical support. Tier 1 is just a filter, which can't even do that correctly most of the time.
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Mattix724 said:
I know how technical support goes... I did both tier 1 and tier 2 for U-Verse. And it's actually 95% of customers are not tech savvy so they call in for every single issue including a Wi-Fi password. Tier 1 technical support is basically a power cycle then transfer to tier 2 if the issue is still happening. Tier 2 does ALL the REAL technical support. Tier 1 is just a filter, which can't even do that correctly most of the time.
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Fios is not that way. I know time Warner is the way you are describing.
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FiOS is a fiber optic network similar to U-verse in the sense that you support IPTV, HSIA, and CVoIP.
I know how an ONT works, unless there is a major issue that requires a technician to physically repair the line... it is a simple toggle or reboot of the CPE.
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Yes, sprint does suck, I've known more than any sprint tech or rep and they don't generally fix anything, water damage??? Seriously? Who cares if it's been water damaged, doesn't mean the phone won't work, that's why they have quality control refurb people... Yeah, I'm on sprint and I hate every day of it but ALL cell phone providers suck major ass and have you by the balls... I've been paying for 4g for over two years and have NEVER seen it and probably never will until my contract is up, again... Truth be told by the time I and the other 75% of America do see 4g from sprint, they'll put a cap on it and stop unlimited... If I were you and you don't like sprint, just keep going up through the chain and tell people strait up what's going on. If that's a no go, just change your prl and roam constantly until you get that "letter" in the mail... One rant to another, good luck...
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Learned a hard lesson

Thought my NFC chip failed on me, cm10/codename/stock rooted all wouldn't let me use NFC. Took my phone to Sprint local store, dropped it off and 2 hours later was told I need to go TEP route and was provided a tiny business card to contact asurion.
Called sprint later the same night, dude didn't even know what NFC was. Transferred me to a tech that night never answered.
Through xda, a member advised the NFC chip is in the battery. I switched my battery back to stock, and shocker, NFC was again fully functional. Really Sprint? Do you not know your product well enough to know this?
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Thats pretty sad on sprints part.

Well also pretty sad you didn't see it on the battery.
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And they wonder why their reps have reputation of being extremely incompetent.

The nfc chip is not in the battery. That would imply that every phone is capable of nfc with the correct battery. The nfc chip is in the phone, however, in order for it to work, it needs the antenna which is rather too large to put in the phone, takes up too much surface space. Thus, they use the battery as the location for this nfc antenna.
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There are a lot of "techs" who know absolutely nothing about how the phones actually work. They were just taught how to repair them by the book and don't actually think outside of the box.

THEY SELL THE PHONE AND DON'T KNOW WHAT NFC IS?! WHAT A JOKE. Why do they hire these incompetent tech support people that know nothing of phones?

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There are a lot of "techs" who know absolutely nothing about how the phones actually work. They were just taught how to repair them by the book and don't actually think outside of the box.
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yet those of us that actually know about this kinda stuff can't seem to get hired? Well I speak for myself anyway....
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This wouldnt even be an asurion claim in the first place....did the phone have obvious signs of physical damage?
Where you at a corp store or authorized retailer?
My techs are frigging awesome....but there are limitations to what they are allowed to do, and only as good as the training they receive.
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THEY SELL THE PHONE AND DON'T KNOW WHAT NFC IS?! WHAT A JOKE. Why do they hire these incompetent tech support people that know nothing of phones?
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Techs do not sell phones...or anything for that matter. They make repairs.
More and more its my belief that carriers are going the route of phone swaps though...and sending the phones somewhere in bulk to be refurbed. In the long run I could see how that would be cheaper.
Hearing NFC is still in the battery is news to me as well. I was of the understanding that after the skyrocket samsung moved everything to the back cover...go figure.
And I spend hours with this stuff lol
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This wouldnt even be an asurion claim in the first place....did the phone have obvious signs of physical damage?
Where you at a corp store or authorized retailer?
My techs are frigging awesome....but there are limitations to what they are allowed to do, and only as good as the training they receive.
Techs do not sell phones...or anything for that matter. They make repairs.
More and more its my belief that carriers are going the route of phone swaps though...and sending the phones somewhere in bulk to be refurbed. In the long run I could see how that would be cheaper.
Hearing NFC is still in the battery is news to me as well. I was of the understanding that after the skyrocket samsung moved everything to the back cover...go figure.
And I spend hours with this stuff lol
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Nope, only had it one week and is in perfect condition. And it was a corporate store, i dont go to retailers. I checked the stock battery and it does say near field communication enabled on it. So again, battery may not be where the chip resides but it does enable the feature if the battery allows it to.
The tech was one thing, all he did was wipe my phone and then reboot it. Worse was the phone rep that didn't even know what NFC was until I described it (he was still wary about it through the call saying 'try that option again, not even knowing how I was trying it out).
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Nope, only had it one week and is in perfect condition. I checked the stock battery and it does say near field communication enabled on it. So again, battery may not be where the chip resides but it does enable the feature if the battery allows it to. The tech was one thing, all he did was wipe my phone and then reboot it. Worse was the phone rep that didn't even know what NFC was until I described it (he was still wary about it through the call saying 'try that option again, not even knowing how I was trying it out).
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Ohhhhhh ok you CALLED tech support...my bad. I thought you took the phone in to a repair center. Sounds lume you did both? I know there isnt much out yet on the S3..pretty sure tear down info isnt even out there yet.
It still throws me off that someone would tell you to use insurance in a store. Within 14 days they typically swap out the phone with a new one. After 14 days they should have just ordered a new one.
1. From what I have heard call center stuff is farmed out. I hate that.
2. Seems kind of silly to me to expect resolution to a hardware issue over a phone call (just in general, not directed at you)
And yeah after reading a few articles It sucks to find that since my galaxy note on att I have been misinformed...the chip itself still resides in the battery and the antenna is on the back cover I guess
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dante32278 said:
Nope, only had it one week and is in perfect condition. And it was a corporate store, i dont go to retailers. I checked the stock battery and it does say near field communication enabled on it. So again, battery may not be where the chip resides but it does enable the feature if the battery allows it to.
The tech was one thing, all he did was wipe my phone and then reboot it. Worse was the phone rep that didn't even know what NFC was until I described it (he was still wary about it through the call saying 'try that option again, not even knowing how I was trying it out).
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Its Sprint employees like that that make the good ones have a bad name. I have been a Sprint employee (Store manager @ Preferred Retailer ASC) for over 3 years. I have watched other locations in my region fall by the wayside and have been nearly shocked in every way imaginable from some of the "help" or "suggestions" i have heard. I can say from an employee whos store location has managed a 90% CSAT average for over two years that not all are as "smart" as the one you encountered. I am sure you are aware of that but it truly upsets me to hear of some wannabe, fake technician simply trying to pass the buck with the "good ol' hard reset will fix ANYTHING" option......k done with my rant....thanks for listening.

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Ohhhhhh ok you CALLED tech support...my bad. I thought you took the phone in to a repair center. Sounds lume you did both? I know there isnt much out yet on the S3..pretty sure tear down info isnt even out there yet.
It still throws me off that someone would tell you to use insurance in a store. Within 14 days they typically swap out the phone with a new one. After 14 days they should have just ordered a new one.
1. From what I have heard call center stuff is farmed out. I hate that.
2. Seems kind of silly to me to expect resolution to a hardware issue over a phone call (just in general, not directed at you)
And yeah after reading a few articles It sucks to find that since my galaxy note on att I have been misinformed...the chip itself still resides in the battery and the antenna is on the back cover I guess
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I did both, during the day at work I brought my phone into a retail store and left it there for 2 hours. Later that night, I called in and received the "huh" service. To sprints credit, they were very helpful an my epic touch phone issues. But I was also shocked that the guy at the store suggested asurion instead of ordering me a new phone, seeing as mine was only a week old with no damage signs.
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Ohhhhhh ok you CALLED tech support...my bad. I thought you took the phone in to a repair center. Sounds lume you did both? I know there isnt much out yet on the S3..pretty sure tear down info isnt even out there yet.
It still throws me off that someone would tell you to use insurance in a store. Within 14 days they typically swap out the phone with a new one. After 14 days they should have just ordered a new one.
1. From what I have heard call center stuff is farmed out. I hate that.
2. Seems kind of silly to me to expect resolution to a hardware issue over a phone call (just in general, not directed at you)
And yeah after reading a few articles It sucks to find that since my galaxy note on att I have been misinformed...the chip itself still resides in the battery and the antenna is on the back cover I guess
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So, does that mean we are forced to buy actual Samsung batteries for our phones if we want to use NFC?
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So, does that mean we are forced to buy actual Samsung batteries for our phones if we want to use NFC?
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No, just check that they are NFC enabled. I returned the one I was using and ordered a new 3rd party that will work.
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yet those of us that actually know about this kinda stuff can't seem to get hired? Well I speak for myself anyway....
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I feel like those of us who are good enough with cell phones probably make some stores feel like we are overqualified. Better to pretend we are herp durp until after we are hired as sales reps
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More loveliness for this topic.
So I ordered a replacement phone as sprint suggested the night I posted this. After I found how to fix the issue, I called sprint and a rep told me "just send the new phone back and you will be ok, they will accept the phone and you wont be charged."
Received phone, returned it in the postage paid envelope.
Last friday (2 days ago), I dropped the same original phone and the screen shattered. I placed a claim with asurion and was advised due to having 3 claims in a year they are cutting me off (dropped my, epic touch aniut 2 months before getting this one). Now asurion has 300 from me, I am getting my replacement tomorrow, but they do not want to invalidate my prior claim. The guy on the phone said they have to honor all claims and sent me to a sups voicemail. I call sprint and tell them this was a result of bad advice from their store and call center and am advised to call Asurion again. Wow. Wtf.
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Funny thing was I also reverted back to stock for the rep before I gave the phone (stock rooted). Regardless, if our a tech and should know about your phones, wouldn't step one be check the battery to see if it says NFC enabled? I could see if you can't get it to work after that, but...you're a tech. Doesn't help that the guy I talked to on the phone didn't even know what NFC was.
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Probly true....and I know a thing or two about fixing things....but before u just use easy out to call insurance wouldn't a better customer service aspect be "i don't know, check around as I am not familiar with the issue" or "i called Samsung and the said..." as opposed to "dunno, get a new phone"?
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Lost epic touch in Beaverton Oregon

Figured this might be a long shot but lost my phone at a target in Beaverton Oregon. Any xda members out there in that area that might of found it?
Epic touch 4g extended battery with case all black rocking the Blue Kuben Rom.

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Figured this might be a long shot but lost my phone at a target in Beaverton Oregon. Any xda members out there in that area that might of found it?
Epic touch 4g extended battery with case all black rocking the Blue Kuben Rom.
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That sucks man! But there are a few Targets in the Beaverton area. Was it the one off Farmington down the way from Fred Meyer?
Did you check with customer service? Where in the Target do you last remember having it?

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That sucks man! But there are a few Targets in the Beaverton area. Was it the one off Farmington down the way from Fred Meyer?
Did you check with customer service? Where in the Target do you last remember having it?
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cs said no one turned it in, turned on family locator from sprint no luck, Target on Beaverton Hillside by 217, Tried plan b off market no luck, lost it Sunday night

Have you checked craigslist?
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Though it has probably been sold by now. Report it stolen to sprint so that it can't be activated. Then check craigslist. A lot of people sell stolen stuff of there. If you find it, call the police and tell them you will pretend to buy it and they should ambush the guy
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I found it but ended up turning it in for in store credit towards a new phone, sorry mate. I'm just kidding. I've never heard of Beaverton, OR. I had enough with Methford (Medford), OR.

That's really funny. I'm in Texas and I have the epic 4g touch with Kuan romantic and extended battery which I'm actually selling
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Have you checked craigslist?
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Though it has probably been sold by now. Report it stolen to sprint so that it can't be activated. Then check craigslist. A lot of people sell stolen stuff of there. If you find it, call the police and tell them you will pretend to buy it and they should ambush the guy
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reported it stolen the next day, been checking Craigslist every day, checked out locale pawn shops as well however they do not deal with sprint phones they say because its to hard for them not to get ripped off. I believe it is gone forever.

You try installing plan B from the market
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HAHAAAA thx for the free phone bro!

Bummer man. If I hear of a cheap phone down here in methford I'll post it. On a non related note, I love this phone. Dropped mine in a toilet last night...didn't even turn it off or anything and its working perfectly lol. I got lucky.
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Wait why can't Sprint locater work? Call customer service if you haven't already done so and ask them to do that for you. It should work man.
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Wait why can't Sprint locater work? Call customer service if you haven't already done so and ask them to do that for you. It should work man.
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If the phone is turned off, there is no way to find it. Either its been sold and flashed to something else or the battery is dead or pulled.
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Ill be honest if I ever found a phone ( worth keeping s2 s3 ) I would keep it , keep it off , pull battery , put away for couple months , let any heat cool down then sell and I would check see if its rooted if so I would unroot , master reset , reset binary then follow the above steps
Depending on phone easy $125-300 depending on phone and condition
But sorry for you loss , be more anal with your phones lol
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Ill be honest if I ever found a phone ( worth keeping s2 s3 ) I would keep it , keep it off , pull battery , put away for couple months , let any heat cool down then sell and I would check see if its rooted if so I would unroot , master reset , reset binary then follow the above steps
Depending on phone easy $125-300 depending on phone and condition
But sorry for you loss , be more anal with your phones lol
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Or you could not be an a** hole and return it and possibly get a reward. I have had my phone stolen in a robbery and I have lost my phones before. Obviously you have never lost a phone because you seem to not know what it's like to lose such a valuable and important thing.When I got robbed, I felt so violated that they had my phone. I have had one person return my phone to me and gave them $100 for it and thanked them a million times. You are the reason people have to take such crazy measures for protecting their sh*t.

bluedevils2003 said:
Ill be honest if I ever found a phone ( worth keeping s2 s3 ) I would keep it , keep it off , pull battery , put away for couple months , let any heat cool down then sell and I would check see if its rooted if so I would unroot , master reset , reset binary then follow the above steps
Depending on phone easy $125-300 depending on phone and condition
But sorry for you loss , be more anal with your phones lol
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people wont admit it but this is probably what the majority of us would do, myself included

Umm when I play professional trumpet and my trumpet costs 4500 my s3 and s2 is with me me as well lookin at about 5000 5500 total I have one me during rehearsals or gigs and ive never lost anything 1.im super anal with everything I own even cheap stuff for example my trumpet say I go into burger king I wont leave it in the car I take It in with me I always have my stuff near by where I have a eye on it but as far as being a a hole ive returned plenty of things ive found , cash , ring , a kids backpack and theres plenty of other things ive returned and personally seen get tossed after two weeks to a month of a store holding it so why let a store toss it when I can make a fast dollar on it
Im mean at least its still being used
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It isn't hard (especially for us) to get into a phone and find out the owner's address and contact info. If I was cold hearted I would have done the same thing as previously stated. Although I would much rather give it back. Unless its an iPhone. Then I'll sell it, buy a nexus, and return THAT to them.
Also, if you have sprint insurance you just pay $100 and you get another one.
Still curiously how you lost a phone in target. Did you set it down on a shelf or something??
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Umm when I play professional trumpet and my trumpet costs 4500 my s3 and s2 is with me me as well lookin at about 5000 5500 total I have one me during rehearsals or gigs and ive never lost anything 1.im super anal with everything I own even cheap stuff for example my trumpet say I go into burger king I wont leave it in the car I take It in with me I always have my stuff near by where I have a eye on it but as far as being a a hole ive returned plenty of things ive found , cash , ring , a kids backpack and theres plenty of other things ive returned and personally seen get tossed after two weeks to a month of a store holding it so why let a store toss it when I can make a fast dollar on it
Im mean at least its still being used
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What kinda of lame excuse is that? Who would "toss" their phone after losing it and then having it returned? Especially if it was a S2? A phone is a very personal item for most ppl. Contains photos, contacts, text msgs, etc... At very least, losing a phone is a huge inconvenience. For most people, it's a sickly feeling know someone else has your personal details in their hands.
The fact of the matter is, if you find someone's phone and don't make any attempt to return it, you're a heartless asshole. And what for? To make a quick buck? Apparently your integrity is only worth a few bucks. Just call a spade a spade. If you're a heartless asshole and you're ok with it, then just say, I'm a heartless asshole. Don't try and masquerade your assholeness with some lame excuse about making sure the loss item is "still being used." That's just bull**** and you, as well as everyone else knows it.

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Although I would much rather give it back. Unless its an iPhone. Then I'll sell it, buy a nexus, and return THAT to them.
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This!! Lol
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What kinda of lame excuse is that? Who would "toss" their phone after losing it and then having it returned? Especially if it was a S2? A phone is a very personal item for most ppl. Contains photos, contacts, text msgs, etc... At very least, losing a phone is a huge inconvenience. For most people, it's a sickly feeling know someone else has your personal details in their hands.
The fact of the matter is, if you find someone's phone and don't make any attempt to return it, you're a heartless asshole. And what for? To make a quick buck? Apparently your integrity is only worth a few bucks. Just call a spade a spade. If you're a heartless asshole and you're ok with it, then just say, I'm a heartless asshole. Don't try and masquerade your assholeness with some lame excuse about making sure the loss item is "still being used." That's just bull**** and you, as well as everyone else knows it.
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I think he was saying that when a good person turns in lost items to customer service they can only hold those items legally for a certain period of time. Then they legally own that item if it is not claimed.
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