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Where are all the devs?

Will this phone end up with terrible development such as with the original epic?
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Maybe renaming it to the epic is hurting us, lmao
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locoboi187 said:
Will this phone end up with terrible development such as with the original epic?
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I didn't have that phone. Was it's community also ungrateful while feeling entitled to work done by others for free?

ioos said:
I didn't have that phone. Was it's community also ungrateful while feeling entitled to work done by others for free?
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Probably not, these are new age modders who think just because they have a certain device it should come with all bells and whistles that take a good 6 months to develope. Did I mention they want it now!!!
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Well, devs are staying behind because we are all starting to see how the game is going. Too many Android phones are coming out at once and money ain't coming any faster. I'm sure if people paid devs to come dev for the device, we'd have more devs...so if you want to pay for someone's E4GT, go right on ahead. If you don't want to, just wait it out. This phone is already pretty sweet and the problems we do have, a dev probably won't be able to fix those..so..yeah.
This phone is sick dude, just enjoy it and be happy that you don't own a device where you have to depend on the devs just to be able to get through the day.

Having it from release date, the OG Epic did NOT have terrible development. Just not the development some people wanted. And there were "some" people who were ungrateful and rude, like with any device. This one already has great developers, and we are slowly getting more. Be patient.

spitefulrain said:
Having it from release date, the OG Epic did NOT have terrible development. Just not the development some people wanted. And there were "some" people who were ungrateful and rude, like with any device. This one already has great developers, and we are slowly getting more. Be patient.
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The Epic scene was pretty good. A lot of people came from that Evo...smh, the Evo messed the whole game up if ya ask me. Now people willl sit around and say their phone is garbage if it doesn't have the same dev scene that the Evo had.
Little do most people know that the Evo was damn near the same device as the Desire, N1 and Dinc. So most of the reason why its scene was so great was because a dev from any one of those phones could just port their roms over and all they had to do was swap out the hardware files and the kernel. Other than those 2 things, everything was damn near exactly the same.

Yeah I think we just have to be patience
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I've seen a few well known devs from the HTC Evo post here, so I'm pretty optimistic.

Viperboy is coming. That's another developer for you!
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what do we really need here? cyanogen and miui and stock roms. that is asking alot but that would be epic. for now i am loving starburst. love asop but don't remove touchwiz launcher and widgets. just my opinion.

I had the First Epic and the Dev's there were GREAT. We may not have had as many as some phones like the Evo but the ones we had did great work and who needs 100 roms to choose from when the ones we had did the trick. We had some great Roms and Themes and the fixes came pretty fast.
I have not rooted this phone yet mainly because I have not felt the need. The only thing I am missing is WiFi Tether. I am sure when this LOS gets worked out and the devs get their hands on the original source we will see much more. I am grateful for anyone that helps make this phone better, but it is pretty dang good out of the box. The best I have ever had.

Where did u hear that from
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OG epic scene was great.... kinda started slowing down with the whole froyo debacle, because it was pretty well known sammy was already working on ginger.... so evsryone was waiting for the final, correct source.... still are i think... i gotta check... gf has my epic and id love to see a finished gb...

cordell12 said:
Probably not, these are new age modders who think just because they have a certain device it should come with all bells and whistles that take a good 6 months to develope. Did I mention they want it now!!!
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Now?? pffft what are you talking about? They want that **** out on launch day! wtf you slacking devs that dont get paid and do this all for free?? Get back in the sweatshop and do work that requires more thinking than a sweatshop worker in china but gets "paid"(donations) less! These devs should worship us and do what we tell them when we tell them! When a phone is released that very day we expect EVERY MOD imaginable, every "bell and whistle" and a choice of at least 10 roms and 10 kernels..
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Viperboy is coming. That's another developer for you!
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I cant wait until viper comes over! That will be the first custom rom I run on this phone.

ioos said:
I didn't have that phone. Was it's community also ungrateful while feeling entitled to work done by others for free?
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Haha right?!

i have been spoiled
evo had so much going on i miss flashing new roms,all i need is cyanogen 7 and miui and a good sense rom nothing else.i miss sense but love this phone,the launchers with sense themes have no souls to them.wish i new how to even start making or porting a rom myself sux been getting bored of touch wiz

manny1983nyc said:
evo had so much going on i miss flashing new roms,all i need is cyanogen 7 and miui and a good sense rom nothing else.i miss sense but love this phone,the launchers with sense themes have no souls to them.wish i new how to even start making or porting a rom myself sux been getting bored of touch wiz
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sense is pretty hard to get working on a non HTC phone. I dont think I've ever heard of a sense rom (that fully worked right) ported over to a non htc phone(at least that I know of). It's not impossible(from what I hear) but it is very very very difficult(so I hear)

locoboi187 said:
Will this phone end up with terrible development such as with the original epic?
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God I hope not, ****ing devs lol
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Any news on supercurio?

Just wondering, the wait is killing me LOL if only he did an update to inform some progress or maybe there's nothing he can do
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Just need an excuse to keep the phone since there is no ics yet
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He's great at what he does, but he doesn't do miracles. I really don't think he can do much with our phones.
But any other work from him would be great to have.
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ThC23 said:
He's great at what he does, but he doesn't do miracles. I really don't think he can do much with our phones.
But any other work from him would be great to have.
Powered by the SGSII....
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Lets just hope he could can't loose hope, I'm on the verge of selling this phone
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HRodMusic said:
Lets just hope he could can't loose hope, I'm on the verge of selling this phone
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Im in your boat, but i thought about it and its like, what would you go to? Downgrade to a GN with no SDcard slot and crappier camera?
Well eventually get ICS, MAYBE CM9, and when ICS is out some roms based on it. I wont spend hundreds just to get ICS a couple months early on crappier hardware.
I may sell it in the summer for a GSIII depending how that looks, but i wont side/downgrade.

Any reason why you guys didn't post this in his screen fix thread directly? He's still responding to questions over there

I really don't get the whole ICS gig! People act like it's the second coming of christ! I mean WTF! Lol this device is already awesome with outout christ or ICS!
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darkside79 said:
I really don't get the whole ICS gig! People act like it's the second coming of christ! I mean WTF! Lol this device is already awesome with outout christ or ICS!
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its just faster and cooler. Wont text/browse/whatever any better than gingerbread.

tiguy99 said:
Any reason why you guys didn't post this in his screen fix thread directly? He's still responding to questions over there
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Because that place is to crowded and outdated
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Rekzer said:
Im in your boat, but i thought about it and its like, what would you go to? Downgrade to a GN with no SDcard slot and crappier camera?
Well eventually get ICS, MAYBE CM9, and when ICS is out some roms based on it. I wont spend hundreds just to get ICS a couple months early on crappier hardware.
I may sell it in the summer for a GSIII depending how that looks, but i wont side/downgrade.
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^This
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darkside79 said:
I really don't get the whole ICS gig! People act like it's the second coming of christ! I mean WTF! Lol this device is already awesome with outout christ or ICS!
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+1. What's the big deal? Ics won't change your life and you will find annoying quirks along with that as well and with anything about everything in life.
At least touchwiz has neat features like status bar brightness and swipe to call/text.
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mettleh3d said:
+1. What's the big deal? Ics won't change your life and you will find annoying quirks along with that as well and with anything about everything in life.
At least touchwiz has neat features like status bar brightness and swipe to call/text.
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Going from ICS to touchwiz GB has been, less than exciting. Luckily the hardware is so awesome.

+1. So what's going to happen when you get ics and then announce the next version.? You guys will be in the same boat again obsessing and asking when how to get it and where the devs went. I just can't believe people forked out 500+ dollars for this phone only to ubderplay it because of another phone. If you knew that the nexus was coming out why weren't you patient enough to just put your money on that. I love my gs2. Its getting o
Ics one way or another but for the meantime I am perfectly happy with my purchase for what my phone is now.
mettleh3d said:
+1. What's the big deal? Ics won't change your life and you will find annoying quirks along with that as well and with anything about everything in life.
At least touchwiz has neat features like status bar brightness and swipe to call/text.
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well, lets stay in track folks, like the thread says any news on supercurio? im also exited for ics, and its killing me that we dont have it but, if supercurio could make my screen look even better than what it is, im all good =D

Just keep in mind that he won't be able to fix the problem, only mask it to an extent. If you're considering selling your phone you might as well just go ahead and do it.

demonwind said:
Just keep in mind that he won't be able to fix the problem, only mask it to an extent. If you're considering selling your phone you might as well just go ahead and do it.
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oh i kno he wont fix it, its a hardware issue, but if he could make the screen look better u kno
ima sell it but not now, until i hear something about the gs3

You've been complaining a lot, it seems to me you are not happy with this phone. That's ok, not everyone is going to like it. I think you should just go ahead and sell it.

ArcticWolf91 said:
You've been complaining a lot, it seems to me you are not happy with this phone. That's ok, not everyone is going to like it. I think you should just go ahead and sell it.
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not complaining, i just have this thing where i want the newest and greatest things and sometimes its just not possible, u kno.. but im chill now, i had a talk with myself lol

chib1panda said:
+1. So what's going to happen when you get ics and then announce the next version.? You guys will be in the same boat again obsessing and asking when how to get it and where the devs went. I just can't believe people forked out 500+ dollars for this phone only to ubderplay it because of another phone. If you knew that the nexus was coming out why weren't you patient enough to just put your money on that. I love my gs2. Its getting o
Ics one way or another but for the meantime I am perfectly happy with my purchase for what my phone is now.
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+1, this is by far the best phone out there period.it is a fact and not a opinion.
From a glaxay better than yours.

HRodMusic said:
not complaining, i just have this thing where i want the newest and greatest things and sometimes its just not possible, u kno.. but im chill now, i had a talk with myself lol
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Understandable, (un)fortunately there really isn't a better option unless its the Exynos version or the GNex, and i like the term "side"-grading because that's really all it is. What's bugging you about it? I think I'm GLAD that I can take a rest from all the flashing and sleepless nights battery calibrating finding the best combinations of roms and kernels (this is my first android, coming off 4 years of Bberry). How will a new device change your user experience/expectations?

Github source for SPH-L710!

https://github.com/EpicCM/SPH-L710_NA_Kernel

Kernel source from Samsung?
Is the github kernel the same kernel that Samsung listed for the SPH-L710 on thier Open Source Release site?

Yes, it is. Its also up under the SGS3 orginization, just to keep everything together: https://github.com/sgs3/SPH-L710_Kernel

Tortel1210 said:
Yes, it is. Its also up under the SGS3 orginization, just to keep everything together: https://github.com/sgs3/SPH-L710_Kernel
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Can't wait for the devs to get their phones and see if we can combine all the US forums.

This is excellent news! The development on other phones I had was a bit slow because the source kernel was never posted by the manufacturer. Here Samsung posts the source before everyone even has the phone. This forum is going to explode.

Looking forward to good things here guys!.....THNX for posting this here noobnl!

Here we go, watch devs do their magic;-)
First sprint s3 post?...
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I wonder how many Evo 4G (OG) people are coming over to the S3.
I am still so in love with my phone, it will be hard to let it go, but I'm brining my sister over to Sprint, so she will take that and at least it will stay in the family.
Really hoping we get some top-quality devs like the EVO forums had. I really had a full assortment of ROM's of top quality to choose from.
WOOT!!!!!!

Xontic said:
I wonder how many Evo 4G (OG) people are coming over to the S3.
I am still so in love with my phone, it will be hard to let it go, but I'm brining my sister over to Sprint, so she will take that and at least it will stay in the family.
Really hoping we get some top-quality devs like the EVO forums had. I really had a full assortment of ROM's of top quality to choose from.
WOOT!!!!!!
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I am from an Evo 4G; got my S III in today, and its gorgeous. Simply gorgeous. feels great in the hand, slim, sleek, responsive. Good signal quality.

My first post on Sprint Galaxy s3 section......yeah!!!!!!!!

I didn't know you were firm italy, Roxx, I lived in Vicenza when not deployed for two years... effIn sweet;-)
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Hopefully we get some rooting step soon and some nice rom.. PROPS to the developers
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I'm from the evOG and I will be here soon enough.
ropodope
I heard the news baby, all about your disease. Yeah, you may have all you want baby. But I got somethin' you need. Oh yeah!

I am coming from the OG EVO as well! (Although the screen broke and I'm using my brothers old EVO Shift, he upgraded to the 3VO.) I am waiting patiently for the phone to drop on Sprint. I've seen places saying it will come on June 29th. I'm actually getting one for my birthday, which is the same day. I hope they'll have the 32gb in stock.

Thanks noobnl.
Plus THANKS to TeamEpic...
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I am also coming from the O.G. EVO via the Epic 4G Touch. My SGS III was delivered yesterday, but I'm on vacation, so I'll have it in hand on Sunday when I get home.
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ropodope said:
I'm from the evOG and I will be here soon enough.
ropodope
I heard the news baby, all about your disease. Yeah, you may have all you want baby. But I got somethin' you need. Oh yeah!
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That's right Car-o-Dope will be in the SGS III house!!!
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Sweet. I can't wait till Roms.
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ropodope said:
I'm from the evOG and I will be here soon enough.
ropodope
I heard the news baby, all about your disease. Yeah, you may have all you want baby. But I got somethin' you need. Oh yeah!
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OMG ROPE!!!!!!
YES! I'm so happy you're switching to the S3, glad to see you move along.
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Xontic said:
OMG ROPE!!!!!!
YES! I'm so happy you're switching to the S3, glad to see you move along.
-Xont!c
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I still have a little unfinished business to take care of on the other side but yes I look forward to a party with the sg3. It's where i'm coming to next. Thx.
ropodope
I heard the news baby, all about your disease. Yeah, you may have all you want baby. But I got somethin' you need. Oh yeah!

Will there be a decent amount of community support?

Lately I've been noticing a lot of developers saying that they are going to quit developing for samsung due to the lack of support they are are offering to the community. Do you think this will affect the releases of ROMs or user fixes to the point of not being worth it to buy this device? Thanks.

The community will try to cook rom for all samsung devices, but when these are not very popular or will become old will be abandoned
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Yes, i`am convinced it will be supported well. The GN2 will be even a bigger success as the GN1 i believe. Getting mine in 5 days

I think there will be some type of good support.. I mean it's still pretty early in the release... And I'd still buy it if it's not supported by a lot of roms.. Doesn't take away of how much of a beast the phone is
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MiguelHogue said:
I think there will be some type of good support.. I mean it's still pretty early in the release... And I'd still buy it if it's not supported by a lot of roms.. Doesn't take away of how much of a beast the phone is
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Exactly. Right now I don't even feel the need to root this thing, it honestly is already perfect to me.
Op where did you hear that more devs are gonna stop developing for Samsung?

N7105 Note 2 LTE is not suppported on this forum right?
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barondebxl said:
Exactly. Right now I don't even feel the need to root this thing, it honestly is already perfect to me.
Op where did you hear that more devs are gonna stop developing for Samsung?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTRKL5E9Iak

barondebxl said:
Exactly. Right now I don't even feel the need to root this thing, it honestly is already perfect to me.
Op where did you hear that more devs are gonna stop developing for Samsung?
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He is talking about Codeworkx and the CyanagenMod team, they`re mad that Samsung isn`t helpfull towards dev`s regarding the scources wich come late or not at all.
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barondebxl said:
Exactly. Right now I don't even feel the need to root this thing, it honestly is already perfect to me.
Op where did you hear that more devs are gonna stop developing for Samsung?
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But what about adblocking, making titanium backups, uninstalling bloatware, installing custom kernel`s and many other perks. I would miss those things to be honest

Makes me shutter to think of this bad boy overclocked!

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Makes me shutter to think of this bad boy overclocked!
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how does THIS make you feel?

If anyone has the OG Note, even that device doesn't have amazing support. At least we have CM tho...of which I'm running PA 2.17 CM10. However, as long as the GN2 receives CM10, all will be fine. I'm torn with how I feel about CM possibly abandoning Sammy...the GN2 is really all about features, that's what makes it better. CM just neuters spen features anyways.
I personally am excited for just having the GN2
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erick161 said:
If anyone has the OG Note, even that device doesn't have amazing support. At least we have CM tho...of which I'm running PA 2.17 CM10. However, as long as the GN2 receives CM10, all will be fine. I'm torn with how I feel about CM possibly abandoning Sammy...the GN2 is really all about features, that's what makes it better. CM just neuters spen features anyways.
I personally am excited for just having the GN2
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+1 And there is a big chance Mike1986 is going to develop Android Revolution HD roms`s for the GN2. He allready supports the S3 now.

I have played with the idea of getting the Sprint version when it comes out. But, I would still work on my HTC stuff too. Only problem is that I'm not up for an upgrade and I am not buying this thing right out lol so we will see how it goes.
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-viperboy- said:
I have played with the idea of getting the Sprint version when it comes out. But, I would still work on my HTC stuff too. Only problem is that I'm not up for an upgrade and I am not buying this thing right out lol so we will see how it goes.
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I think you should do it man. I went out of pocket for my s2, but the timing was perfect so now I'm eligible for an upgrade. Plus, I love your work when I had my evo :thumbup:. The Note community could definitely use your mods/roms.
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I think you should do it man. I went out of pocket for my s2, but the timing was perfect so now I'm eligible for an upgrade. Plus, I love your work when I had my evo :thumbup:. The Note community could definitely use your mods/roms.
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Well thanks man, but as a college student, I don't just have that much laying around to blow on a phone you know? Lol
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So let's do this - round #2

Since the point of my last thread was not answered, I thought I'd try again. (And yes, I do realize why.)
So without the passive disappointment, what's the road map in terms of ROMs?
I understand AOSP, and probably AOKP, are coming soon.
Anyone heard anything about MIUI?
Or a Phablet ROM?
Oh, and thread monitor, I'm not mentally ill.
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Once we get a stable AOSP rom, the ports will come out and yes that includes MIUI. And also........
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I am not going to flame you.
Listen, this is not an extremely popular device. It is a great device. Just not a very popular one in terms of sales in the US. With that you can go one of three ways. Wish for things that are never to come, switch devices, or learn something.
XDA has great and I mean GREAT resources. You just have to get out of the device forum to find them. Chances are you won't have to spend any money either(if you own a computer). Go check out the developer forums. They are full of tutorials. None of this stuff is rocket science. Most of it is just reading..... and copy and pasting because someone already did it first. If you break it your out 300 bucks tops on Craigslist. We will help you.
In the famous words of a fallen brother:
I'm Gonna Make A Change, For Once In My Life
It's Gonna Feel Real Good, Gonna Make A Difference
Gonna Make It Right . . .
I'm Starting With The Man In the Mirror
I'm Asking Him To Change his ways
And No Message Could Have been and clearer
If You Wanna Make The World a better place
Take A Look At Yourself, And
Then Make A Change

Yo I agree. I came from plenty of phones with lots of Roms and just general stuff to flash the only phone I've had that was this bland in dev department was my other LG's the revolution and the spectrum. **** even the vivid had crap development but was a he'll of a lot better than this and that phone was a he'll of a lot more hidden buy the one x than this should be from the s3. **** all I keep reading is how there are so many great devs with this phone but there isint even any good stock moded Roms or more than 1 kernel. I switched from the vivid an amazing phone just because lack of roms. And I might have to again. Its sad that a phone this super can still suck. One thing I have been seriously considering is the lgog to nexus4 hack. And just getting my fix that way I've been hoping to see someone do some fixing to the hack to give us full sd card space and capacitive button fix. And I would have done it already.
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**** I just checked the att side and they have way more work for the same dang phone. Even the Canadian edition has more work than us with the sprint. Its sucks for me considering I wanted the att edition. But was able to get the sprint edition for like 200 bucks cheaper than I could find the att. I just use my phone on WiFi so I don't care what service. But now how can I trade this for the att one? I can't that's how lol
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Look I come from the GNex which has a bunch of ROMs. I don't complain to much though because I know that they are waiting to get the JB source. I could always switch back to GNex but I don't because I know the devs don't want to work to hard on something when another better thing is coming out soon. And besides they are working on CM9 which is still something. This phone did not have really good sales to be having much support. At least we have it.
Oh and there is someone who did release a JB ROM. It's just really buggy.

In the past 2 months we have sold more optimus G's than any other phone in our store. The BOGO is really helping this great phone out.
BTW today I sold 6 optimus G's, 1 galaxy s3 and no other phone. This has been pretty consistent sense the first of the year.
If its been like this for most other stores then its just a matter of time before some kid or experienced developer gives this phone the spotlight it deserves.
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The AT&T OG and Sprint OG are not the same phone. Different radios, partition map to start. The Nexus 4 is also not the same device for the same reasons mentioned. A different partition map alone is enough to brick a device. The same thing applies to the GNex and other phones.
The LGOG software is broken. The source code is a mess. Joker has had to pull a number of fixes from from outside Sprint LGOG channels to fix things. Without a clean, stable and functional base, devs have had to spend more time fixing things than building ROMs. I personally have been building custom ROM's since the Palm T|C and the LGOG is by far the worst device I've ever deved on.
Not enough ROMs you say. Almost every stock based ROM is derivative and can hardly be counted as a true ROM. They are little more than themes and tweaks packaged as ROMs. Keeping that in mind the are only three true ROMs, Stock, AOSP and Hybrid. Everything beyond that is pretty wrapping.
If you consider build.prop tweaks, optimizations, ui changes and apk swaps a ROM then look at my Motorola deblur/debloat. It does all of those things on a dozen or more phones and is nothing more than a script. Calkulin did something similar over in Samsung land.
If you would like, I could very easily push out three or four different "ROMs" a day for whole week and turn this into the copycat nightmare the Evo 4G turned into. The other option is let us get a good stable stock base and AOSP base and let themers worry about what font or battery icon to use. BTW where are the themers, we could really use some.

I came from the photon and gnex ). Joker, marz, and shabby are 3 of the best devs I've encountered. With 2 out of 3 working on this device you know eventually we'll get something worth the wait.
I have a question for one of you though. Jellybean won't be out for a few months considering sprints rep for delayed updates could we expect to see aosp for ics and just not worry about jellybean for the moment? That would at least boost the amount of choices we have for now. enough to crave the flashaholics till work is finished with the jellybean based roms
Or was this the complications you were talking about? Even with ics
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Just look at it this way. Dragons are coming. every dev is going to jump start as soon as jelly hits. Right now it's all on LG and Sprint.
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sharkboy0901 said:
Just look at it this way. Dragons are coming. every dev is going to jump start as soon as jelly hits. Right now it's all on LG and Sprint.
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I'm content with what we have now. I have helped a few friends find ROMs for their phones, and like Loki pointed out, it can be a nightmare. There is no way to differentiate ROMs on some phones. This is the first phone I have had that Joker, Th3Bill and Loki have dev'd for, but xboxfanj is excellent. AdriVelasquez also strikes me as being a real solid dev for us, although I don't have prior experience with him either.
I guess the point of my post is to point out that things ARE in fact happening. The ROMs we have are great and stable. I have not found a single ROM that I couldn't work with for a week or more. That certainly cannot be said for most ROMs. With the Epic 4G, there were a lot of ROMs, but some that I flashed made my phone completely useless from the onset.
AOSP, AOKP, MIUI, CM and PA I think will all make it to this phone. Realistically, aside from these, I agree with Loki's assessment. There are ROMs only in the sense that somebody changed one thing in the stock experience. Those five are the ones that I am most concerned with because they offer such a unique experience to the user.

Loki is moving, th3bill is extra busy. Im working 2 jobs plus kids and without my build box ATM. Xbox is making great progress in a way that will help us in the long run. We have another kernel dev that's helping out now. So calm down and let us work
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I'm plenty calm just a little disappointed. But Im still here I guess I could be a better motivator than just bashing the overall development.
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theshamrockking said:
I'm plenty calm just a little disappointed. But Im still here I guess I could be a better motivator than just bashing the overall development.
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Explain to me why you are disappointed? If you are so disappointed then where is your custom ROM?
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_Epic said:
Explain to me why you are disappointed? If you are so disappointed then where is your custom ROM?
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If I knew how and had the capability I would be working on it. But I am a hardware guy give me a broken phone piece by piece and I'll make it a brand new phone. Its what I'm good at. Software is just super foreign to me. Not everyone Is good at everything.
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theshamrockking said:
If I knew how and had the capability I would be working on it. But I am a hardware guy give me a broken phone piece by piece and I'll make it a brand new phone. Its what I'm good at. Software is just super foreign to me. Not everyone Is good at everything.
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I think u should just dump this phone and get urself an S3 if u want roms, seriously. I'm so sick of the complaining! :banghead::banghead::banghead:
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toprock23 said:
I think u should just dump this phone and get urself an S3 if u want roms, seriously. I'm so sick of the complaining! :banghead::banghead::banghead:
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I'm sick of baby's who can't take some simple complaining. Its not like we're saying **** you all your a waste of a person. Were complaining that something we own and paid good money for is not like we would like it to be or what we were hoping it would be. Some of us have gotten used to the idea of many roms and lots of things happening. Its not fair to yell at us for wondering why it's not the same with this device. There is no need to be a **** and attack people. Were not attacking any developers at best we are attacking the general development on this phone. **** for all you know we could be wishing that more devs had this phone and things like that. Don't just decide we're dicks because we want something. Treat everyone with respect. That goes for devs and users.
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I'm sick of baby's who can't take some simple complaining. Its not like we're saying **** you all your a waste of a person. Were complaining that something we own and paid good money for is not like we would like it to be or what we were hoping it would be. Some of us have gotten used to the idea of many roms and lots of things happening. Its not fair to yell at us for wondering why it's not the same with this device. There is no need to be a **** and attack people. Were not attacking any developers at best we are attacking the general development on this phone. **** for all you know we could be wishing that more devs had this phone and things like that. Don't just decide we're dicks because we want something. Treat everyone with respect. That goes for devs and users.
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Wow u think ur the only one complaining? Obviously ur too lazy to read whats been going on. And I'm sorry but the price you paid for the phone doesn't come with awesome devs and all u can flash roms. The post u just started is like shoving **** back down our throats.
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toprock23 said:
Wow u think ur the only one complaining? Obviously ur too lazy to read whats been going on. And I'm sorry but the price you paid for the phone doesn't come with awesome devs and all u can flash roms. The post u just started is like shoving **** back down our throats.
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I'm not going to get pulled into a argument. Aparently you didn't get the point of my reply. Have a good day.
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theshamrockking said:
I'm not going to get pulled into a argument. Aparently you didn't get the point of my reply. Have a good day.
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Theen what was the point, you know, besides being Captain Obvious.
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Jesus, I wish I was a mod for this forum.
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