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Where are all the devs?

Will this phone end up with terrible development such as with the original epic?
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Maybe renaming it to the epic is hurting us, lmao
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locoboi187 said:
Will this phone end up with terrible development such as with the original epic?
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I didn't have that phone. Was it's community also ungrateful while feeling entitled to work done by others for free?

ioos said:
I didn't have that phone. Was it's community also ungrateful while feeling entitled to work done by others for free?
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Probably not, these are new age modders who think just because they have a certain device it should come with all bells and whistles that take a good 6 months to develope. Did I mention they want it now!!!
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Well, devs are staying behind because we are all starting to see how the game is going. Too many Android phones are coming out at once and money ain't coming any faster. I'm sure if people paid devs to come dev for the device, we'd have more devs...so if you want to pay for someone's E4GT, go right on ahead. If you don't want to, just wait it out. This phone is already pretty sweet and the problems we do have, a dev probably won't be able to fix those..so..yeah.
This phone is sick dude, just enjoy it and be happy that you don't own a device where you have to depend on the devs just to be able to get through the day.

Having it from release date, the OG Epic did NOT have terrible development. Just not the development some people wanted. And there were "some" people who were ungrateful and rude, like with any device. This one already has great developers, and we are slowly getting more. Be patient.

spitefulrain said:
Having it from release date, the OG Epic did NOT have terrible development. Just not the development some people wanted. And there were "some" people who were ungrateful and rude, like with any device. This one already has great developers, and we are slowly getting more. Be patient.
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The Epic scene was pretty good. A lot of people came from that Evo...smh, the Evo messed the whole game up if ya ask me. Now people willl sit around and say their phone is garbage if it doesn't have the same dev scene that the Evo had.
Little do most people know that the Evo was damn near the same device as the Desire, N1 and Dinc. So most of the reason why its scene was so great was because a dev from any one of those phones could just port their roms over and all they had to do was swap out the hardware files and the kernel. Other than those 2 things, everything was damn near exactly the same.

Yeah I think we just have to be patience
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I've seen a few well known devs from the HTC Evo post here, so I'm pretty optimistic.

Viperboy is coming. That's another developer for you!
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what do we really need here? cyanogen and miui and stock roms. that is asking alot but that would be epic. for now i am loving starburst. love asop but don't remove touchwiz launcher and widgets. just my opinion.

I had the First Epic and the Dev's there were GREAT. We may not have had as many as some phones like the Evo but the ones we had did great work and who needs 100 roms to choose from when the ones we had did the trick. We had some great Roms and Themes and the fixes came pretty fast.
I have not rooted this phone yet mainly because I have not felt the need. The only thing I am missing is WiFi Tether. I am sure when this LOS gets worked out and the devs get their hands on the original source we will see much more. I am grateful for anyone that helps make this phone better, but it is pretty dang good out of the box. The best I have ever had.

Where did u hear that from
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OG epic scene was great.... kinda started slowing down with the whole froyo debacle, because it was pretty well known sammy was already working on ginger.... so evsryone was waiting for the final, correct source.... still are i think... i gotta check... gf has my epic and id love to see a finished gb...

cordell12 said:
Probably not, these are new age modders who think just because they have a certain device it should come with all bells and whistles that take a good 6 months to develope. Did I mention they want it now!!!
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Now?? pffft what are you talking about? They want that **** out on launch day! wtf you slacking devs that dont get paid and do this all for free?? Get back in the sweatshop and do work that requires more thinking than a sweatshop worker in china but gets "paid"(donations) less! These devs should worship us and do what we tell them when we tell them! When a phone is released that very day we expect EVERY MOD imaginable, every "bell and whistle" and a choice of at least 10 roms and 10 kernels..
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Viperboy is coming. That's another developer for you!
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I cant wait until viper comes over! That will be the first custom rom I run on this phone.

ioos said:
I didn't have that phone. Was it's community also ungrateful while feeling entitled to work done by others for free?
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Haha right?!

i have been spoiled
evo had so much going on i miss flashing new roms,all i need is cyanogen 7 and miui and a good sense rom nothing else.i miss sense but love this phone,the launchers with sense themes have no souls to them.wish i new how to even start making or porting a rom myself sux been getting bored of touch wiz

manny1983nyc said:
evo had so much going on i miss flashing new roms,all i need is cyanogen 7 and miui and a good sense rom nothing else.i miss sense but love this phone,the launchers with sense themes have no souls to them.wish i new how to even start making or porting a rom myself sux been getting bored of touch wiz
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sense is pretty hard to get working on a non HTC phone. I dont think I've ever heard of a sense rom (that fully worked right) ported over to a non htc phone(at least that I know of). It's not impossible(from what I hear) but it is very very very difficult(so I hear)

locoboi187 said:
Will this phone end up with terrible development such as with the original epic?
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God I hope not, ****ing devs lol
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S3 forum seems to be less cluttered with roms...(reworded)

Where are all the devs? Is it me or does it seem that only several roms are on the first page of the Development forum? btw im not referring to the Original Development forum lol... It kinda surprises me with all the hype surrounding this phone that there aren't more roms being cooked up... Im by no means complaining im happy with Blazer but just surprised.

It'll pick up the gs2 was a little sluggish out of the gate too
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I dont get what ROMS people are looking for. You have touchwiz, and there is only so much that can be done with that, and you have aosp...so much can be done with that. ROMS can only be modified so much and still be fuctional. If your comparing it to the epic, or the evo or something, your probably taking about themes. I noticed a lot of the same crap, it just looked different and "dev-c" called it a rom, but it was the same thing 'dev-b" did, that was the same thing "dev-a" did, each one just looked different, or had different apps added or removed.

shiftr182 said:
I dont get what ROMS people are looking for. You have touchwiz, and there is only so much that can be done with that, and you have aosp...so much can be done with that. ROMS can only be modified so much and still be fuctional. If your comparing it to the epic, or the evo or something, your probably taking about themes. I noticed a lot of the same crap, it just looked different and "dev-c" called it a rom, but it was the same thing 'dev-b" did, that was the same thing "dev-a" did, each one just looked different, or had different apps added or removed.
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Spot on. Original dev is pretty the only real dev, and its moving quite fast.
Cm9 here already works better than my old phones cm9.
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Im not into roms anymore. Theres always something missing from the roms that stock had and then i end up going back to stock for it.

DroidBabe said:
Im not into roms anymore. Theres always something missing from the roms that stock had and then i end up going back to stock for it.
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Well, if you're you're referring to AOSP, then that's correct, because that's what it is. AOSP is stock, barebone google android; no touchwiz, sense, motoblur, etc; those features are tied into the framework of that rom.

teh roxxorz said:
Well, if you're you're referring to AOSP, then that's correct, because that's what it is. AOSP is stock, barebone google android; no touchwiz, sense, motoblur, etc; those features are tied into the framework of that rom.
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No I was referring to all of the roms not just aosp.

Yep the "devs" are hard at work on cynogen and aokp and doing amazing at it.. ......... they all deserve some thanks and recognition. We are maybe only a few weeks away from a really truly functional jb build. We Are fortunate to have real devs
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A couple devs just made it over and are cooking up some stuff.

Unless it gets pushed back like everything else Sprint has done, this phone should get a JB update most likely in August. Once it's updated and source is released I think you will see a lot more ROMS. I think they might be getting a little bored with ICS (even though there inst much difference between the two)

I should of been more specific. Lol I was talking about my rom experience from the SG2. I have yet to try out roms on the SG3.

I would just like to say I am entirely satisfied with the progress being made and as soon as I can comment in that forum I will tell them personally. I also intend to donate. That is probably the best way to get things moving. :laugh:

yousefak said:
Spot on. Original dev is pretty the only real dev, and its moving quite fast.
Cm9 here already works better than my old phones cm9.
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MikeyLee said:
Unless it gets pushed back like everything else Sprint has done, this phone should get a JB update most likely in August. Once it's updated and source is released I think you will see a lot more ROMS. I think they might be getting a little bored with ICS (even though there inst much difference between the two)
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I think August is a bit generous. The Epic was supposed to have Froyo August 2010 but didn't get it until March 2011. I'd be very surprised to see JB on this officially before October.
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Wicked sensations it's on its way soon. Read the ROM threads. Plenty of devs helping support other roms while they make theirs.
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The Root said:
Wicked sensations it's on its way soon. Read the ROM threads. Plenty of devs helping support other roms while they make theirs.
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I really don't consider myself a dev. Its one of those roms that everybody is saying is not "dev ". I actually agree, but some people still enjoy. But thanks though. But I think we still have some great all around devs in both sections. I'm sure more will come, but I'm definitely happy with what we have right now.
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This phone has been in circulation for what... 2 months? Oh how beggers love to be choosers. This thread is disturbing, with all this "real dev" mumbo. Those that can write from scratch are few and far between. Don't take away from those whom spend countless hours tweaking leaks and source, allowing us the opportunity to choose what fits our likings.
Congrats OP! Way to demotivate those who are putting in the long hours. Until you can do what the "non devs" can do, I say ZIP IT!
Q&A or not, this thread should be closed!
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Yeah I realize most devs are hard at work on JB... Like i said im not complaining cuz like one usuer said there isn't much to improve upon with this phone even with stock touchwiz... Coming from the E3d forums a new rom would pop up every week practically... but i see this is a different animal... Just cool to get everyone's opinion thats all...

Visionikz03 said:
Yeah I realize most devs are hard at work on JB... Like i said im not complaining cuz like one usuer said there isn't much to improve upon with this phone even with stock touchwiz... Coming from the E3d forums a new rom would pop up every week practically... but i see this is a different animal... Just cool to get everyone's opinion thats all...
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Well, ya kinda started a fire storm. I'm not trying to be rude, but you should've navigated through the dev forums before posting this. Not saying the replys are your fault, but some of them are low blows to those who put lots and lots of time.
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1brainsurgeon said:
Well, ya kinda started a fire storm. I'm not trying to be rude, but you should've navigated through the dev forums before posting this. Not saying the replys are your fault, but some of them are low blows to those who put lots and lots of time.
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Not to point out the obvious but, it seems like you are the only one taking offense and creating a "fire storm". It didn't read to me like he was putting anyone down but, asking an honest question. The devs we have are great. Wouldn't trade them for anything. We are lacking in quantity though. Rather have quality than quantity so I'm perfectly ok with that. I guess I'm just confused by your comments though because I was looking for the trolls and flames and didn't see anyone taking offense to his question. Either way we are all entitled to our own opinions. I agree with both of you but, not your particular attitude. *shrug*

Nexus 4 welcoming commitee, goodbye s3

I recently bought a nexus 7 for school, and i'm an avid follower of my devices developement since i had my galaxy s vibrant. It is SOOO nice getting the update withing a week of google releasing it, i have 4.2 and it is PHENOMINAL!!! We the s3 user base are what.. 4 months past 4.1.1 release, then there is 4.1.2, then 4.2... um two versions behind and no firm commitemnt of release. I used cm10 nightlies for months and the bugs were exausting, but i respect the work they do, excellent but there are nevertheless many bugs, hence the long nigtly list of changes. PURE up to DATE android is sublime.
And quad core w/ 2gb RAM... that was just a dream for s3 users.
I will be selling my s3... buying the 16 gb... forever more be up to date and loving the android expereince... and probably come out with a small profit
no haters please there are plenty of those threads, I would like this to be a support thread for those making the jump from s3 to nexus 4. welcome to the fold!

While I'm glad you are happy, I do have to question this kind of mentality.
I love having my S3, but I would of gotten any other new phone. The S3 just had a significant improvement over my Vibrant.
However, going from S3 to Nexus, while some perks.. I don't see the reason for all the hype. You're still talking about a phone just slightly above on par with the S3. All for what? You'll be getting the same updates, just one gets them faster. It runs about the same speed, or at least from what you can tell without an app.
So.. What's the necessity? What's the reason for such rampant rushing to the newest and best if it is just a slight increase?
Seems to be a mindset that should be avoided, not praised.

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What is the point of this junk thread?
I'm sure the Nexus 4 forum would rather hear you geek over your new 4.
CM10 is flawless for me.
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Haters gonna hate. This thread is extremely pointless though, lol. I'm going to make the jump in a couple weeks probably (waiting for official reviews and for my friend to get the phone to play and feel it up)... so this thread is a "I'm leaving and want a good bye, and why I'm leaving" thread?
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Enjoy your same camera, same RAM, same data and real world (actual) speeds, your limited storage space, and your fragile (easy to crack) glass backing... And after all.. It is LG.. Lmao
At least you can show off your meaningless benchmarks to your cool school friends :beer::beer::beer::beer:
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GalaxyS3Guy said:
Enjoy your same camera, same RAM, same data and real world (actual) speeds, your limited storage space, and your fragile (easy to crack) glass backing... And after all.. It is LG.. Lmao
At least you can show off your meaningless benchmarks to your cool school friends :beer::beer::beer::beer:
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At least he won't be whining and *****ing like a little school girl for updates lol
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fatboy547 said:
At least he won't be whining and *****ing like a little school girl for updates lol
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In before the lock. This thread is more suitable position n the nexus forum not here.
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lol excitement. well thats good! im glad you are happy and joint and i see where you come from but the thread was kinda poinltess an you kinda set yourself for everyone to throw stick and stones at you. we already know youll get faster updates, the phone is basically an s3 with a different screen, 2 more cores and an amped GPU. but we are glad you're going to enjoy it. :good:

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At least he won't be whining and *****ing like a little school girl for updates lol
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I'm sorry but its attitude like this that causes buyers remorse. You should spend a few days in the gnex forums before you quickly realize its no different. Once the gnex got jb people were itching for the next thing which was 4.1.2. Then when they got that they are irxhing again for 4.2. Catch my drift. I say get a device you are happy with and satisfied with the version of android. If you worry about updates you're always going to be worrying and not be satisfied. My 2 cents.
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monkeypaws said:
I'm sorry but its attitude like this that causes buyers remorse. You should spend a few days in the gnex forums before you quickly realize its no different. Once the gnex got jb people were itching for the next thing which was 4.1.2. Then when they got that they are irxhing again for 4.2. Catch my drift. I say get a device you are happy with and satisfied with the version of android. If you worry about updates you're always going to be worrying and not be satisfied. My 2 cents.
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I agree with u.. He's just looking for attention and something to ***** about.. What nice about the s3 is their will always be many different options of ROMs.. Twiz ,Asop , pa, and just different options.. That's what's great about s3s.. I'm betting you'll see him in the nexus thread *****ing about something pointless like he is here and has done in the past just to get some attention.. Good riddance...
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osmosizzz said:
lol excitement. well thats good! im glad you are happy and joint and i see where you come from but the thread was kinda poinltess an you kinda set yourself for everyone to throw stick and stones at you. we already know youll get faster updates, the phone is basically an s3 with a different screen, 2 more cores and an amped GPU. but we are glad you're going to enjoy it. :good:
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You forgot to mention its made by lg which has a piss poor track record for quality, google is already including bumpers with the nexus because the glass back has been very easy to crack. I haven't read 1 review yet saying the n4 is much better than anything else. As for JB updates, between frosty, doc's Sprint port, and Xquzit there are plenty of great choices already.
For me personally JB doesn't have anything in it that I don't have with ics. Ok, I don't have the very latest version of google now but other than that what am I missing?

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What happened devs?

Did something new come out? Have we hit a brick wall? At one point the roms and updates were being cranked out.. now nothing. What's going on?
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I think a lot of pressure was for us to get jelly bean. We got it and things calmed down. We still have development. But, this device just isn't in enough hands. When CM get finished that should give us a pretty stable foundation for other popular AOSP roms. So, at this point that seems to be what is the most important milestone. I don't know how that is progressing though.
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kc_exactly said:
I think a lot of pressure was for us to get jelly bean. We got it and things calmed down. We still have development. But, this device just isn't in enough hands. When CM get finished that should give us a pretty stable foundation for other popular AOSP roms. So, at this point that seems to be what is the most important milestone. I don't know how that is progressing though.
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I'm really glad the first response wasn't a "hey stop asking, flame flame flame."
But yeah, I feel the same. The camera and other fixes in CM will make it stable and people will build on top of that. Why bother making new ROMs if your old ones are good and why build on CM if the camera (a pretty popular use of smartphones nowadays) isn't working?

megamaster2 said:
I'm really glad the first response wasn't a "hey stop asking, flame flame flame."
But yeah, I feel the same. The camera and other fixes in CM will make it stable and people will build on top of that. Why bother making new ROMs if your old ones are good and why build on CM if the camera (a pretty popular use of smartphones nowadays) isn't working?
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I think I've been around here long enough to warrant asking a question like that. I've done my fair amount of contribution. Kc thanks for the answer. Megamaster, I agree, although I love aosp it would be nice to see a highly optimized, highly stable, and heavily themed LG based ROM too. For some people it's just their cup of tea.
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A lot of our devs also have some major stuff going on with personal life too.... New jobs, new kids, etc. Congrats to all, btw.
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oh the amazing things coming soon for our device...
the calm before the storm

autoprime said:
oh the amazing things coming soon for our device...
the calm before the storm
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Get some!
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What's needed most is themes. Good, full themes. I would kill to see somebody port Myn's Warm over to the LGOG. I'm sure somebody would like to see a TW or the new Moto look as well. Nobody has even bothered to mod any of the theme apks that come built in to the LG software. It may not be CM theme manager level of awesome but our phones does have a theme manager built in.
Except for base ROMs like AOSP/CM there really isn't a reason for new ROMs. To be honest, Imperium Initiative isn't even a ROM, I simply released it as one because I was feeling lazy and didn't want to write the script for it. If I had, it only would have been around a 50-60MB DL.

Lokifish Marz said:
What's needed most is themes. Good, full themes. I would kill to see somebody port Myn's Warm over to the LGOG.
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Definitely planning on that. I ported it to my epic and once I get sense working, I will go for it.
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I'm content with what we have for the moment. And I've been poking around with some files myself trying to get features we should have (QSlide apps) working and other things of interest.

What languages/scripts and what do you guys make/bake and mod/theme Roms with and in? I know just some of the stepping stones, but have lots of time to learn. With a bit of self study I don't see myself being able to make roms, but surely theming/modding.

can anybody port iOS? Totally kidding.
I'm looking forward to what is coming, but at the same time, we do have some very good, stable ROMs. Something that can be said for our device that cannot be said for many others is that all of our ROMs that are not in testing are stable. Quality before quantity and all that. I was looking through the GS3 forums for a friend yesterday and they have so many options you simply could not possibly know what is good and what is not without reading pages upon pages of posts. It was awful!
Anyway, I think it's a valid question but from my POV I'm pretty happy with where we are at.

Plus, the roms we have are their own build your own rom kits. The possibilities are pretty endless.
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Xiutehcuhtli said:
can anybody port iOS? Totally kidding.
I'm looking forward to what is coming, but at the same time, we do have some very good, stable ROMs. Something that can be said for our device that cannot be said for many others is that all of our ROMs that are not in testing are stable. Quality before quantity and all that. I was looking through the GS3 forums for a friend yesterday and they have so many options you simply could not possibly know what is good and what is not without reading pages upon pages of posts. It was awful!
Anyway, I think it's a valid question but from my POV I'm pretty happy with where we are at.
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Even if someone could get it fully working, they couldn't release it because Apple would sue their ass.
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great work by the devs we have so far. My phone is 100x better than it would have been at stock. Im a lurker but definitely appreciate the efforts of all. Thanks

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Even if someone could get it fully working, they couldn't release it because Apple would sue their ass.
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Apple wouldn't have a leg to stand on if they hadn't patented that extremely unique rectangular shape

outerpip said:
A lot of our devs also have some major stuff going on with personal life too.... New jobs, new kids, etc. Congrats to all, btw.
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Congrats guys...
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I definitely would like to see our theme manager utilized. Even if we had an inverted stock theme. All the menus are so damn bright, wouldn't mind seeing a dark theme. Maybe a blue theme... I just think for a device of this caliber we should have more.
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Lokifish Marz said:
What's needed most is themes. Good, full themes. I would kill to see somebody port Myn's Warm over to the LGOG. I'm sure somebody would like to see a TW or the new Moto look as well. Nobody has even bothered to mod any of the theme apks that come built in to the LG software. It may not be CM theme manager level of awesome but our phones does have a theme manager built in.
Except for base ROMs like AOSP/CM there really isn't a reason for new ROMs. To be honest, Imperium Initiative isn't even a ROM, I simply released it as one because I was feeling lazy and didn't want to write the script for it. If I had, it only would have been around a 50-60MB DL.
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Ahhh yes!! Myn's roms were the most beautiful and elegant I've ever used. I had the OG Evo and the Evo 3D and his work was always top notch. Donated to him more than anyone else. I would love to see his work on the Optimus G.
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Ahhh yes!! Myn's roms were the most beautiful and elegant I've ever used. I had the OG Evo and the Evo 3D and his work was always top notch. Donated to him more than anyone else. I would love to see his work on the Optimus G.
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Yeah they are beautiful. Especially on non HTC devices such as the epic. It was glorious.
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Low Development?

Is it me, or has android development been rather low lately?
With the HTC One and Galaxy S4 being the best phones on the market, I was expecting there to be loads of roms and lots of aosp roms.
Is it because the phones just came out?

well people are still receiving units and people are sitting tight for the 32 and 64 gig variants. just be patient and within a few months development will be in full swing.
plus its not like we dont have great roms now, so its not like we are missing anything (accept maybe halo from paranoid android, but thats it)
revolt is basically the P.A.C roms, and cyanogen mod already has nightlys for our phone

Could be. I'm no dev but I can imagine it being impossible to make an awesome, non crappy Rom so soon while having a personal life and a job to balance. Luckily this phone is cool enough stock, minus the bloatware of course
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Stirfry20 said:
Could be. I'm no dev but I can imagine it being impossible to make an awesome, non crappy Rom so soon while having a personal life and a job to balance. Luckily this phone is cool enough stock, minus the bloatware of course
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it is indeed time consuming when factoring in life away from a computer and i'm a guy that lives on a computer basically.
when speaking with the dev team i work with, most of them skipped the S4. they're either staying on S3/Note 2 or they went for the Oppo Find 5, Nexus 4 or are waiting on Nexus 5/Note 3. because Samsung is starting to stray away from being dev friendly with their locked bootloaders and not releasing source for Exynos variants, most of us are fed up. this will likely be my last Samsung device because of this.
also, this is the T-Mob section which is pretty much the smallest carrier of the big 4 here in the US. most of the team i'm a part of are on ATT like i once was...
i wouldn't be surprised if not much more comes down the pipeline for us. there will be more, just not a lot more.

hypersonicx said:
Is it me, or has android development been rather low lately?
With the HTC One and Galaxy S4 being the best phones on the market, I was expecting there to be loads of roms and lots of aosp roms.
Is it because the phones just came out?
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yeah pretty low traffic in there;
however were still waiting on you to release your ROM. keep us posted.

mrvirginia said:
it is indeed time consuming when factoring in life away from a computer and i'm a guy that lives on a computer basically.
when speaking with the dev team i work with, most of them skipped the S4. they're either staying on S3/Note 2 or they went for the Oppo Find 5, Nexus 4 or are waiting on Nexus 5/Note 3. because Samsung is starting to stray away from being dev friendly with their locked bootloaders and not releasing source for Exynos variants, most of us are fed up. this will likely be my last Samsung device because of this.
also, this is the T-Mob section which is pretty much the smallest carrier of the big 4 here in the US. most of the team i'm a part of are on ATT like i once was...
i wouldn't be surprised if not much more comes down the pipeline for us. there will be more, just not a lot more.
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This is very sad to hear darn Samsung and their crappy locked bootloaders. This lack of development will definitely turn me away from a future Samsung device.
Why would Samsung even do that when they know people like to develop ROMs for their phones?
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baolongn said:
This is very sad to hear darn Samsung and their crappy locked bootloaders. This lack of development will definitely turn me away from a future Samsung device.
Why would Samsung even do that when they know people like to develop ROMs for their phones?
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ITs not just the locked bootloader but also making unrootable stock kernels, putting the imei info in a spot where it can be erased. You have to understand that we here are less then 1% of the users samsung targets.

Life is rough now a days, we have wife's, kids, and pets to feed and provide for. Deviant development is doing a great job with this device. Couldn't ask for more. I'm going to put out my first Rom on This device soon too Thanks to Deviant development.
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I have many app ideas, but don't have the skill or the time to learn how to make an app. if you would like to know an idea and attempt to make one, just message me.
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Rom: Wicked v2
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Maybe it's all the *****ing, ungratefulness, and sense of entitlement floating about........

Just wait until the Google Edition GS4 drops, then we'll see some development, since it's an M919 as well

arianagrande said:
life is rough now a days, we have wife's, kids, and pets to feed and provide for. \
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hide yo wife, hide yo keedz.

hurrpancakes said:
Just wait until the Google Edition GS4 drops, then we'll see some development, since it's an M919 as well
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My thoughts exactly. Its going to be a lot of fun once that phone comes out.
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hurrpancakes said:
Just wait until the Google Edition GS4 drops, then we'll see some development, since it's an M919 as well
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when this happens i'm sure you'll see a lot more AOSP ROMs.

KillaHurtz said:
Maybe it's all the *****ing, ungratefulness, and sense of entitlement floating about........
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Having a bad day?

ickster said:
Having a bad day?
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Seriously lol
People need to get laid, get a job and smile.
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KillaHurtz said:
Maybe it's all the *****ing, ungratefulness, and sense of entitlement floating about........
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ickster said:
Having a bad day?
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bzlik88 said:
Seriously lol
People need to get laid, get a job and smile.
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Killa has a point. although i haven't witnessed this in full force here in our sections yet, i have been witness to it many many times.
then there's also the fact that other devs seem to think that new devs are their "competition" and that it is a "popularity" contest. this almost caused me to throw in the towel. i am humble. i do what i do because i want to learn and run my own stuff. i then share my creations in case anyone else would like to run it as well. nothing more, nothing less.
the T-Mobile section has certainly left a bad taste in my mouth in comparison to the ATT section where everyone was extremely friendly.

What happened?

I put out a FULLY WORKING stock base to help move development along give it time
^^And thats one hell of a nice banner^^
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Development will pick up once more people have the phone.
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hurrpancakes said:
Just wait until the Google Edition GS4 drops, then we'll see some development, since it's an M919 as well
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thanks