Is it me, or has android development been rather low lately?
With the HTC One and Galaxy S4 being the best phones on the market, I was expecting there to be loads of roms and lots of aosp roms.
Is it because the phones just came out?
well people are still receiving units and people are sitting tight for the 32 and 64 gig variants. just be patient and within a few months development will be in full swing.
plus its not like we dont have great roms now, so its not like we are missing anything (accept maybe halo from paranoid android, but thats it)
revolt is basically the P.A.C roms, and cyanogen mod already has nightlys for our phone
Could be. I'm no dev but I can imagine it being impossible to make an awesome, non crappy Rom so soon while having a personal life and a job to balance. Luckily this phone is cool enough stock, minus the bloatware of course
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Stirfry20 said:
Could be. I'm no dev but I can imagine it being impossible to make an awesome, non crappy Rom so soon while having a personal life and a job to balance. Luckily this phone is cool enough stock, minus the bloatware of course
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it is indeed time consuming when factoring in life away from a computer and i'm a guy that lives on a computer basically.
when speaking with the dev team i work with, most of them skipped the S4. they're either staying on S3/Note 2 or they went for the Oppo Find 5, Nexus 4 or are waiting on Nexus 5/Note 3. because Samsung is starting to stray away from being dev friendly with their locked bootloaders and not releasing source for Exynos variants, most of us are fed up. this will likely be my last Samsung device because of this.
also, this is the T-Mob section which is pretty much the smallest carrier of the big 4 here in the US. most of the team i'm a part of are on ATT like i once was...
i wouldn't be surprised if not much more comes down the pipeline for us. there will be more, just not a lot more.
hypersonicx said:
Is it me, or has android development been rather low lately?
With the HTC One and Galaxy S4 being the best phones on the market, I was expecting there to be loads of roms and lots of aosp roms.
Is it because the phones just came out?
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yeah pretty low traffic in there;
however were still waiting on you to release your ROM. keep us posted.
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it is indeed time consuming when factoring in life away from a computer and i'm a guy that lives on a computer basically.
when speaking with the dev team i work with, most of them skipped the S4. they're either staying on S3/Note 2 or they went for the Oppo Find 5, Nexus 4 or are waiting on Nexus 5/Note 3. because Samsung is starting to stray away from being dev friendly with their locked bootloaders and not releasing source for Exynos variants, most of us are fed up. this will likely be my last Samsung device because of this.
also, this is the T-Mob section which is pretty much the smallest carrier of the big 4 here in the US. most of the team i'm a part of are on ATT like i once was...
i wouldn't be surprised if not much more comes down the pipeline for us. there will be more, just not a lot more.
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This is very sad to hear darn Samsung and their crappy locked bootloaders. This lack of development will definitely turn me away from a future Samsung device.
Why would Samsung even do that when they know people like to develop ROMs for their phones?
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This is very sad to hear darn Samsung and their crappy locked bootloaders. This lack of development will definitely turn me away from a future Samsung device.
Why would Samsung even do that when they know people like to develop ROMs for their phones?
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ITs not just the locked bootloader but also making unrootable stock kernels, putting the imei info in a spot where it can be erased. You have to understand that we here are less then 1% of the users samsung targets.
Life is rough now a days, we have wife's, kids, and pets to feed and provide for. Deviant development is doing a great job with this device. Couldn't ask for more. I'm going to put out my first Rom on This device soon too Thanks to Deviant development.
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Maybe it's all the *****ing, ungratefulness, and sense of entitlement floating about........
Just wait until the Google Edition GS4 drops, then we'll see some development, since it's an M919 as well
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life is rough now a days, we have wife's, kids, and pets to feed and provide for. \
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hide yo wife, hide yo keedz.
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Just wait until the Google Edition GS4 drops, then we'll see some development, since it's an M919 as well
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My thoughts exactly. Its going to be a lot of fun once that phone comes out.
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Just wait until the Google Edition GS4 drops, then we'll see some development, since it's an M919 as well
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when this happens i'm sure you'll see a lot more AOSP ROMs.
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Maybe it's all the *****ing, ungratefulness, and sense of entitlement floating about........
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Having a bad day?
ickster said:
Having a bad day?
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Seriously lol
People need to get laid, get a job and smile.
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Maybe it's all the *****ing, ungratefulness, and sense of entitlement floating about........
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Having a bad day?
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Seriously lol
People need to get laid, get a job and smile.
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Killa has a point. although i haven't witnessed this in full force here in our sections yet, i have been witness to it many many times.
then there's also the fact that other devs seem to think that new devs are their "competition" and that it is a "popularity" contest. this almost caused me to throw in the towel. i am humble. i do what i do because i want to learn and run my own stuff. i then share my creations in case anyone else would like to run it as well. nothing more, nothing less.
the T-Mobile section has certainly left a bad taste in my mouth in comparison to the ATT section where everyone was extremely friendly.
What happened?
I put out a FULLY WORKING stock base to help move development along give it time
^^And thats one hell of a nice banner^^
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Development will pick up once more people have the phone.
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Just wait until the Google Edition GS4 drops, then we'll see some development, since it's an M919 as well
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thanks
Related
This was just posted on Android police. The YouTube vid is in Spanish but the guy said the rom is rumored to be released later this month or early Sept. Looks legit but we will see.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...on-video-shows-off-revamped-notification-bar/
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This was just posted on Android police. The YouTube vid is in Spanish but the guy said the rom is rumored to be released later this month or early Sept. Looks legit but we will see.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...on-video-shows-off-revamped-notification-bar/
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That's for the I9300, we have an entirely different chipset and carrier bloat that will take time to develop.
Killa - FYI if you are the second person to post in a forum thread there is absolutely no reason to quote the whole first post.
Look intersristing, s Voice still there :/ hopefully it got r at least cause it sucks, thanks for sharing
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That's for the I9300, we have an entirely different chipset and carrier bloat that will take time to develop.
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True I'm sure we will see it just a matter of time.
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I think even when jelly bean comes to the carrier's, they still have to put their junk in it. I don't think we will see a carrier official 4.1 anytime soon
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I think even when jelly bean comes to the carrier's, they still have to put their junk in it. I don't think we will see a carrier official 4.1 anytime soon
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I don't see it being in a month or anything either, International always gets it before US.
I was on galaxy s 2 and we waited long time to get ICS from tmobile and when we got it ; we were like ok take it back. Tooo many junks from tmobile. Same thing goona happen here tooo
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Like everyone said the international and us version are 2 different things, but .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1835931
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Pshh by the time we get jelly bean android key lime pie will be out.
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maybe im just being optimistic but i think we will get something fairly soon
on the plus side of it the rom just needs to be compatible with our phones SoC instead creating from the ground up, that and ass bloatware of course. Maybe sooner then later.
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Killa - FYI if you are the second person to post in a forum thread there is absolutely no reason to quote the whole first post.
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No reason.....except I'm a red blooded American and this is an open forum. Go nit pick with the hens OK?
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Who cares when the official Touchwiz version will be out anyway? I'd be willing to bet that CM10 will have a bug free build pushed out within the next 30 days. They're damn close to it already.
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Who cares when the official Touchwiz version will be out anyway? I'd be willing to bet that CM10 will have a bug free build pushed out within the next 30 days. They're damn close to it already.
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It's already silky smooth broham, I would prefer to have the samsung version because of the awesome stuff that comes stock.
Because cyan might have a great build but with JB 100% done he won't have to use hacked features just the kernel will be hacked.
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It's already silky smooth broham, I would prefer to have the samsung version because of the awesome stuff that comes stock.
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agreed love touchwiz on this phone gives the phone personality and I actually like some of that tmo junk on it
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agreed love touchwiz on this phone gives the phone personality and I actually like some of that tmo junk on it
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Agree. I haven't even flashed a rom on here cuz well I haven't desired for one since stock isn't that bad at all
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I imagine alot of ppl will be underwhelmed when we do get JB. There's not going to be much visually different, and project butter pushing things to 60fps throughout the ui will help, but this is already a pretty smooth phone. I was seeing some lag issues, but I reflashed my current rom & everything is back to silky smooth. Don't get me wrong, JB is a welcome addition to an already amazing device, but it's not going to be like the jump from gingerbread to ics, so I can be patient. Also, as a couple others have stated, I'm loving TW over AOSP now. I never thought I'd say it, but TW is full of incredible additions to Android that I don't want to lose. I love the beauty of stock Android, but it's a fair trade for all of the functionality.
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I don't see it being in a month or anything either, International always gets it before US.
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true that amigo great to see u on another forum
Lately I've been noticing a lot of developers saying that they are going to quit developing for samsung due to the lack of support they are are offering to the community. Do you think this will affect the releases of ROMs or user fixes to the point of not being worth it to buy this device? Thanks.
The community will try to cook rom for all samsung devices, but when these are not very popular or will become old will be abandoned
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Yes, i`am convinced it will be supported well. The GN2 will be even a bigger success as the GN1 i believe. Getting mine in 5 days
I think there will be some type of good support.. I mean it's still pretty early in the release... And I'd still buy it if it's not supported by a lot of roms.. Doesn't take away of how much of a beast the phone is
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MiguelHogue said:
I think there will be some type of good support.. I mean it's still pretty early in the release... And I'd still buy it if it's not supported by a lot of roms.. Doesn't take away of how much of a beast the phone is
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Exactly. Right now I don't even feel the need to root this thing, it honestly is already perfect to me.
Op where did you hear that more devs are gonna stop developing for Samsung?
N7105 Note 2 LTE is not suppported on this forum right?
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barondebxl said:
Exactly. Right now I don't even feel the need to root this thing, it honestly is already perfect to me.
Op where did you hear that more devs are gonna stop developing for Samsung?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTRKL5E9Iak
barondebxl said:
Exactly. Right now I don't even feel the need to root this thing, it honestly is already perfect to me.
Op where did you hear that more devs are gonna stop developing for Samsung?
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He is talking about Codeworkx and the CyanagenMod team, they`re mad that Samsung isn`t helpfull towards dev`s regarding the scources wich come late or not at all.
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barondebxl said:
Exactly. Right now I don't even feel the need to root this thing, it honestly is already perfect to me.
Op where did you hear that more devs are gonna stop developing for Samsung?
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But what about adblocking, making titanium backups, uninstalling bloatware, installing custom kernel`s and many other perks. I would miss those things to be honest
Makes me shutter to think of this bad boy overclocked!
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Makes me shutter to think of this bad boy overclocked!
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how does THIS make you feel?
If anyone has the OG Note, even that device doesn't have amazing support. At least we have CM tho...of which I'm running PA 2.17 CM10. However, as long as the GN2 receives CM10, all will be fine. I'm torn with how I feel about CM possibly abandoning Sammy...the GN2 is really all about features, that's what makes it better. CM just neuters spen features anyways.
I personally am excited for just having the GN2
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If anyone has the OG Note, even that device doesn't have amazing support. At least we have CM tho...of which I'm running PA 2.17 CM10. However, as long as the GN2 receives CM10, all will be fine. I'm torn with how I feel about CM possibly abandoning Sammy...the GN2 is really all about features, that's what makes it better. CM just neuters spen features anyways.
I personally am excited for just having the GN2
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+1 And there is a big chance Mike1986 is going to develop Android Revolution HD roms`s for the GN2. He allready supports the S3 now.
I have played with the idea of getting the Sprint version when it comes out. But, I would still work on my HTC stuff too. Only problem is that I'm not up for an upgrade and I am not buying this thing right out lol so we will see how it goes.
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I have played with the idea of getting the Sprint version when it comes out. But, I would still work on my HTC stuff too. Only problem is that I'm not up for an upgrade and I am not buying this thing right out lol so we will see how it goes.
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I think you should do it man. I went out of pocket for my s2, but the timing was perfect so now I'm eligible for an upgrade. Plus, I love your work when I had my evo :thumbup:. The Note community could definitely use your mods/roms.
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I think you should do it man. I went out of pocket for my s2, but the timing was perfect so now I'm eligible for an upgrade. Plus, I love your work when I had my evo :thumbup:. The Note community could definitely use your mods/roms.
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Well thanks man, but as a college student, I don't just have that much laying around to blow on a phone you know? Lol
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1996038
Above is the link to the 7100 ROM it looks amazing.... What does it take to make this flash-able onto our T Mobile devices... If it doesn't include a radio couldn't we just flash it? I am too scared to flash and try...its less scary to post a new thread ask you to try...haha. If a devo could shed some light or a brave soul could "test" it that would be great.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1996038
Above is the link to the 7100 ROM it looks amazing.... What does it take to make this flash-able onto our T Mobile devices... If it doesn't include a radio couldn't we just flash it? I am too scared to flash and try...its less scary to post a new thread ask you to try...haha. If a devo could shed some light or a brave soul could "test" it that would be great.
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You can flash it. If you want to lose your radio. Unfortunately even if the 7100 rom does not include radio we have significant differences in our hardware that causes the radio not to work. Most likely something in the ril or kernel I believe (I could be wrong about the reasons). We dont have an AOSP kernel for the 7105 or tmo version.
Thank you sir... man, I really want that ROM. Was using XquiziT's ROM but the was having a couple problems with it and now the future for it looks bleak. (What I liked so much was the AOSP parts added in) Going to give Saurom a go now I guess.
Try cmenards stuff its very good. Or thst ptrme guy he is for real.
Stay away from animalmo and virus stuff...no good
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Try cmenards stuff its very good. Or thst ptrme guy he is for real.
Stay away from animalmo and virus stuff...no good
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Haha remember when "VIIRU§" tried to get donations to shake us down for a new computer? Now he's been AWOL for a week. And people got mad at me for being dubious about him :-/
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Haha remember when "VIIRU§" tried to get donations to shake us down for a new computer? Now he's been AWOL for a week. And people got mad at me for being dubious about him :-/
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I did the same exact thing!!
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brashmadcap said:
Haha remember when "VIIRU§" tried to get donations to shake us down for a new computer? Now he's been AWOL for a week. And people got mad at me for being dubious about him :-/
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WHAT ABOUT ME?! do you remeber how they treated me! I remember how they did you too and a few other guys that have a little sense. But you know what it taught me....it showed me who actually has some brains here.
Its funny how things turn around huh ? We were the hated ones!
Guess what we are now?
The anti-virus
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WHAT ABOUT ME?! do you remeber how they treated me! I remember how they did you too and a few other guys that have a little sense. But you know what it taught me....it showed me who actually has some brains here.
Its funny how things turn around huh ? We were the hated ones!
Guess what we are now?
The anti-virus
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Lol anti-virus that's a good one
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Boy i sure hope we get a aosp rom like that. Why is their development so far ahead of us?
The international variant always gets devs quicker than us variants. you gotta realize its available to more people than the us variant. but we will catch up dont worry
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The international variant always gets devs quicker than us variants. you gotta realize its available to more people than the us variant. but we will catch up dont worry
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I am TRUSTING you!!! Don't let me down.... LOL (Ref: "..but we will catch up..")
we need some devs solely working on what needs to be done for porting from one device to another. the fact that the ROM even functions on our device without modification should be a decent indicator of how close we are.
look in the US SGS3 section, 4 variants all with small differences and porting roms between those 4 is a piece of cake.
if someone could make a stand alone CWM.zip that we flash after a N7100 ROM that gave us back the radio it would be perfect. then we could just run any N7100 rom we wanted, no porting needed.
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we need some devs solely working on what needs to be done for porting from one device to another. the fact that the ROM even functions on our device without modification should be a decent indicator of how close we are.
look in the US SGS3 section, 4 variants all with small differences and porting roms between those 4 is a piece of cake.
if someone could make a stand alone CWM.zip that we flash after a N7100 ROM that gave us back the radio it would be perfect. then we could just run any N7100 rom we wanted, no porting needed.
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well as much as i love the note 2 if we don't get any aosp love soon ill probably swap devices with my wife. at least her sg3 has cm10/aokp. again not complaining, i just hope development picks up. i was thinking about getting a nexus 4 to tide me over but i hate lg. if anything i still hope the note 2 see's android 4.2.
I am curious. I have had CM/AOKP for years with my other phones. With this one seems a lot of the features I really love are here. What do you feel is missing from TW that AOKP/CM gives you. I am not a fan of TW colors but overall it is good (and I xan theme colors away). Only thing I really miss from AOKP is the wigets popup from nav bar.
Aosp is lighter and for me runs better.
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Aosp is lighter and for me runs better.
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I would agree on most older phones....this one I have not had any slowdowns. ....that I did not cause (changing files in system causes FCs sometimes lol)
Im not saying options are bad or that I would not flash AOSP but just wondering why people feel they need it.
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Personally I really look forward to having a ROM with mass storage support. Since Google removed it from Android, I am no longer able to connect my phone to Linux for easy transfer of files and have to use all kinds of alternatives.
Not sure it can't be done on a TW based ROM, but CM/AOKP ROMs seem to more commonly introduce it like the one mentioned in this thread.
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Personally I really look forward to having a ROM with mass storage support. Since Google removed it from Android, I am no longer able to connect my phone to Linux for easy transfer of files and have to use all kinds of alternatives.
Not sure it can't be done on a TW based ROM, but CM/AOKP ROMs seem to more commonly introduce it like the one mentioned in this thread.
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I second the motion for USB mass storage functions. Maybe wi-fi direct or other technology will supersede it, but it would be nice to have the capabilities meantime.
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Personally I really look forward to having a ROM with mass storage support. Since Google removed it from Android, I am no longer able to connect my phone to Linux for easy transfer of files and have to use all kinds of alternatives.
Not sure it can't be done on a TW based ROM, but CM/AOKP ROMs seem to more commonly introduce it like the one mentioned in this thread.
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This I can understand I really wish google made ums/mass storage an option. I understand why they went with ums but options are always nice.
Reasons why I think they went UMS
1) ability to keep sdcard mounted while connected to computer
2) ability to mount /sdcard on /data/media making the internal sdcard the same as the internal data memory
3) most people people use windows
4) the option to turn it on/off may confise some people.
The only one I disagree with is number 4. Stupidd people will find a way to be stupid no matter how much you coddle them.
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Since the point of my last thread was not answered, I thought I'd try again. (And yes, I do realize why.)
So without the passive disappointment, what's the road map in terms of ROMs?
I understand AOSP, and probably AOKP, are coming soon.
Anyone heard anything about MIUI?
Or a Phablet ROM?
Oh, and thread monitor, I'm not mentally ill.
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Once we get a stable AOSP rom, the ports will come out and yes that includes MIUI. And also........
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I am not going to flame you.
Listen, this is not an extremely popular device. It is a great device. Just not a very popular one in terms of sales in the US. With that you can go one of three ways. Wish for things that are never to come, switch devices, or learn something.
XDA has great and I mean GREAT resources. You just have to get out of the device forum to find them. Chances are you won't have to spend any money either(if you own a computer). Go check out the developer forums. They are full of tutorials. None of this stuff is rocket science. Most of it is just reading..... and copy and pasting because someone already did it first. If you break it your out 300 bucks tops on Craigslist. We will help you.
In the famous words of a fallen brother:
I'm Gonna Make A Change, For Once In My Life
It's Gonna Feel Real Good, Gonna Make A Difference
Gonna Make It Right . . .
I'm Starting With The Man In the Mirror
I'm Asking Him To Change his ways
And No Message Could Have been and clearer
If You Wanna Make The World a better place
Take A Look At Yourself, And
Then Make A Change
Yo I agree. I came from plenty of phones with lots of Roms and just general stuff to flash the only phone I've had that was this bland in dev department was my other LG's the revolution and the spectrum. **** even the vivid had crap development but was a he'll of a lot better than this and that phone was a he'll of a lot more hidden buy the one x than this should be from the s3. **** all I keep reading is how there are so many great devs with this phone but there isint even any good stock moded Roms or more than 1 kernel. I switched from the vivid an amazing phone just because lack of roms. And I might have to again. Its sad that a phone this super can still suck. One thing I have been seriously considering is the lgog to nexus4 hack. And just getting my fix that way I've been hoping to see someone do some fixing to the hack to give us full sd card space and capacitive button fix. And I would have done it already.
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**** I just checked the att side and they have way more work for the same dang phone. Even the Canadian edition has more work than us with the sprint. Its sucks for me considering I wanted the att edition. But was able to get the sprint edition for like 200 bucks cheaper than I could find the att. I just use my phone on WiFi so I don't care what service. But now how can I trade this for the att one? I can't that's how lol
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Look I come from the GNex which has a bunch of ROMs. I don't complain to much though because I know that they are waiting to get the JB source. I could always switch back to GNex but I don't because I know the devs don't want to work to hard on something when another better thing is coming out soon. And besides they are working on CM9 which is still something. This phone did not have really good sales to be having much support. At least we have it.
Oh and there is someone who did release a JB ROM. It's just really buggy.
In the past 2 months we have sold more optimus G's than any other phone in our store. The BOGO is really helping this great phone out.
BTW today I sold 6 optimus G's, 1 galaxy s3 and no other phone. This has been pretty consistent sense the first of the year.
If its been like this for most other stores then its just a matter of time before some kid or experienced developer gives this phone the spotlight it deserves.
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The AT&T OG and Sprint OG are not the same phone. Different radios, partition map to start. The Nexus 4 is also not the same device for the same reasons mentioned. A different partition map alone is enough to brick a device. The same thing applies to the GNex and other phones.
The LGOG software is broken. The source code is a mess. Joker has had to pull a number of fixes from from outside Sprint LGOG channels to fix things. Without a clean, stable and functional base, devs have had to spend more time fixing things than building ROMs. I personally have been building custom ROM's since the Palm T|C and the LGOG is by far the worst device I've ever deved on.
Not enough ROMs you say. Almost every stock based ROM is derivative and can hardly be counted as a true ROM. They are little more than themes and tweaks packaged as ROMs. Keeping that in mind the are only three true ROMs, Stock, AOSP and Hybrid. Everything beyond that is pretty wrapping.
If you consider build.prop tweaks, optimizations, ui changes and apk swaps a ROM then look at my Motorola deblur/debloat. It does all of those things on a dozen or more phones and is nothing more than a script. Calkulin did something similar over in Samsung land.
If you would like, I could very easily push out three or four different "ROMs" a day for whole week and turn this into the copycat nightmare the Evo 4G turned into. The other option is let us get a good stable stock base and AOSP base and let themers worry about what font or battery icon to use. BTW where are the themers, we could really use some.
I came from the photon and gnex ). Joker, marz, and shabby are 3 of the best devs I've encountered. With 2 out of 3 working on this device you know eventually we'll get something worth the wait.
I have a question for one of you though. Jellybean won't be out for a few months considering sprints rep for delayed updates could we expect to see aosp for ics and just not worry about jellybean for the moment? That would at least boost the amount of choices we have for now. enough to crave the flashaholics till work is finished with the jellybean based roms
Or was this the complications you were talking about? Even with ics
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Just look at it this way. Dragons are coming. every dev is going to jump start as soon as jelly hits. Right now it's all on LG and Sprint.
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sharkboy0901 said:
Just look at it this way. Dragons are coming. every dev is going to jump start as soon as jelly hits. Right now it's all on LG and Sprint.
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I'm content with what we have now. I have helped a few friends find ROMs for their phones, and like Loki pointed out, it can be a nightmare. There is no way to differentiate ROMs on some phones. This is the first phone I have had that Joker, Th3Bill and Loki have dev'd for, but xboxfanj is excellent. AdriVelasquez also strikes me as being a real solid dev for us, although I don't have prior experience with him either.
I guess the point of my post is to point out that things ARE in fact happening. The ROMs we have are great and stable. I have not found a single ROM that I couldn't work with for a week or more. That certainly cannot be said for most ROMs. With the Epic 4G, there were a lot of ROMs, but some that I flashed made my phone completely useless from the onset.
AOSP, AOKP, MIUI, CM and PA I think will all make it to this phone. Realistically, aside from these, I agree with Loki's assessment. There are ROMs only in the sense that somebody changed one thing in the stock experience. Those five are the ones that I am most concerned with because they offer such a unique experience to the user.
Loki is moving, th3bill is extra busy. Im working 2 jobs plus kids and without my build box ATM. Xbox is making great progress in a way that will help us in the long run. We have another kernel dev that's helping out now. So calm down and let us work
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I'm plenty calm just a little disappointed. But Im still here I guess I could be a better motivator than just bashing the overall development.
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I'm plenty calm just a little disappointed. But Im still here I guess I could be a better motivator than just bashing the overall development.
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Explain to me why you are disappointed? If you are so disappointed then where is your custom ROM?
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Explain to me why you are disappointed? If you are so disappointed then where is your custom ROM?
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If I knew how and had the capability I would be working on it. But I am a hardware guy give me a broken phone piece by piece and I'll make it a brand new phone. Its what I'm good at. Software is just super foreign to me. Not everyone Is good at everything.
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If I knew how and had the capability I would be working on it. But I am a hardware guy give me a broken phone piece by piece and I'll make it a brand new phone. Its what I'm good at. Software is just super foreign to me. Not everyone Is good at everything.
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I think u should just dump this phone and get urself an S3 if u want roms, seriously. I'm so sick of the complaining! :banghead::banghead::banghead:
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toprock23 said:
I think u should just dump this phone and get urself an S3 if u want roms, seriously. I'm so sick of the complaining! :banghead::banghead::banghead:
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I'm sick of baby's who can't take some simple complaining. Its not like we're saying **** you all your a waste of a person. Were complaining that something we own and paid good money for is not like we would like it to be or what we were hoping it would be. Some of us have gotten used to the idea of many roms and lots of things happening. Its not fair to yell at us for wondering why it's not the same with this device. There is no need to be a **** and attack people. Were not attacking any developers at best we are attacking the general development on this phone. **** for all you know we could be wishing that more devs had this phone and things like that. Don't just decide we're dicks because we want something. Treat everyone with respect. That goes for devs and users.
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I'm sick of baby's who can't take some simple complaining. Its not like we're saying **** you all your a waste of a person. Were complaining that something we own and paid good money for is not like we would like it to be or what we were hoping it would be. Some of us have gotten used to the idea of many roms and lots of things happening. Its not fair to yell at us for wondering why it's not the same with this device. There is no need to be a **** and attack people. Were not attacking any developers at best we are attacking the general development on this phone. **** for all you know we could be wishing that more devs had this phone and things like that. Don't just decide we're dicks because we want something. Treat everyone with respect. That goes for devs and users.
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Wow u think ur the only one complaining? Obviously ur too lazy to read whats been going on. And I'm sorry but the price you paid for the phone doesn't come with awesome devs and all u can flash roms. The post u just started is like shoving **** back down our throats.
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Wow u think ur the only one complaining? Obviously ur too lazy to read whats been going on. And I'm sorry but the price you paid for the phone doesn't come with awesome devs and all u can flash roms. The post u just started is like shoving **** back down our throats.
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I'm not going to get pulled into a argument. Aparently you didn't get the point of my reply. Have a good day.
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I'm not going to get pulled into a argument. Aparently you didn't get the point of my reply. Have a good day.
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Theen what was the point, you know, besides being Captain Obvious.
Assimilated using the interface that interacts with the advanced internet.
Jesus, I wish I was a mod for this forum.
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Hey guys thinking of upgrading to this phone and I love the look, feel, and features of this phone, but it doesn't look like you guys have much going on in the way of development? I'd be coming from the Samsung Infuse, so I'm a bit spoiled, when the phone was newer lots of developers were building and porting custom roms, and currently there are about 4 variations of updated (Android 4.1+) roms in development. Currently I'm on Beanstalk for the Infuse (android 4.3) which is a great rom with tons of customization.
I wouldn't mind learning and developing myself but with the apparent shortness of developers this could be slow going. Am I missing something here, is there just not a lot of development because this is a relatively new device, or is it a hard or impossible device to hack?
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Hey guys thinking of upgrading to this phone and I love the look, feel, and features of this phone, but it doesn't look like you guys have much going on in the way of development? I'd be coming from the Samsung Infuse, so I'm a bit spoiled, when the phone was newer lots of developers were building and porting custom roms, and currently there are about 4 variations of updated (Android 4.1+) roms in development. Currently I'm on Beanstalk for the Infuse (android 4.3) which is a great rom with tons of customization.
I wouldn't mind learning and developing myself but with the apparent shortness of developers this could be slow going. Am I missing something here, is there just not a lot of development because this is a relatively new device, or is it a hard or impossible device to hack?
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I came from the note 1 so I know the feeling...but I gotta tell you the stock software is really that good...I don't really miss any of my custom roms I use to run..the only thing I do miss is my theme on the theme engine.
Once cm10 gets closer we may see more since most roms are based off it but who knows.
I wouldn't expect development like what you're use to but like I said I don't miss it at all..
Hopefully the Nexus 5 will have a 5" screen like the rumors suggest and I can finally get a nexus device.
Yeah there a cm10.1 thats almost a daily. Pretty much everything works just a few bugs. There are repositories for a slimbean 4.3 on github but idk how far along that is as there been no release. And over in android forums there a guy working on a stock debloated deodexed rom and the bootloaders only been bypassed for a month or so. It took a while to get it unlocked but development has been goin pretty well since then. Just gonna take time.
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Yeah there a cm10.1 thats almost a daily. Pretty much everything works just a few bugs. There are repositories for a slimbean 4.3 on github but idk how far along that is as there been no release. And over in android forums there a guy working on a stock debloated deodexed rom and the bootloaders only been bypassed for a month or so. It took a while to get it unlocked but development has been goin pretty well since then. Just gonna take time.
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So now that the bootloader has been cracked, we should see some more development soon I'd think? I'm just surprised this isn't a more popular device, the specs on it are bad ass.
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Well like mrdsl said cm10 is the base for many of the good rom anyway and its almost done so I would expect to see development pick up soon. Especially as att keeps dropping the price makeing this easily the cheapest snapdragon600 device making it very appealing to many more people we should see the community for this phone grow a lot.
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So now that the bootloader has been cracked, we should see some more development soon I'd think? I'm just surprised this isn't a more popular device, the specs on it are bad ass.
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Not cracked, just bypassed makes a world of difference and according to what I've been told from LG reps they have no plans on unlocking the bootloader or releasing any source code
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Not cracked, just bypassed makes a world of difference and according to what I've been told from LG reps they have no plans on unlocking the bootloader or releasing any source code
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My understanding is the source that came from Samsung was leaked so hopefully something similar will happen with LG.
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I enjoy mine and it's running stock but rooted. I've been able to do what I want with just root like getting rid of pesky qslides bar. It's cool but I don't use it and the apps are still there so ya. If you get this phone you'll enjoy it. Either way good luck with whatever you choose!
IMHO, a phone that good, stock rom is good enough!:laugh:
Stock ROM of Gpro is great.....and optimized.
I didnt miss CM or PA at all.
Exactly . Best rom by any android company released
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I agree .. it's a good stock rom. I would have to say most people install roms to improve performance but even on the Note2 I had I wasn't installing roms like I did in the past on every device prior.. and in fact this G pro benchmarks about 60 to 100 percent faster than the Note2 in most ... and so far it's been the fastest, slickest device I've used by far. I'm using Apex Launcher for customizing .. and at this point my phone looks like stock Android 4.3 and runs lightning quick.. and battery life has been stellar. And I'm liking and using the quicknote dedicated button! Only thing I miss about my note2 is kinda the S-pen and the inky blacks(contrast)
I have own a lot of Samsung devices...starting from s2 to s4 and I change my s4 for this device because I didn't feel I big upgrade from s3...of course I miss switching rooms but I can tell you that this phone is a lot quicker than many phone out there...the G pro is a lot more responsive than my wife note 2 and what I love about this phone is BATTERY this monster last the whole day
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I enjoy mine and it's running stock but rooted. I've been able to do what I want with just root like getting rid of pesky qslides bar. It's cool but I don't use it and the apps are still there so ya. If you get this phone you'll enjoy it. Either way good luck with whatever you choose!
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How difficult was the phone to root?
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dginsd said:
How difficult was the phone to root?
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Like taking candy from a baby..
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Like taking candy from a baby..
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Best metaphor. Brought a smile to my face.
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How difficult was the phone to root?
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Extremely easy it only takes a few minutes to complete.
Stock rom FTW
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the only thing I do miss is my theme on the theme engine.
Once cm10 gets closer we may see more since most roms are based off it but who knows.
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do u kno if theres a black theme where the dialerpad, contact list and system settings are dark?
Stock is good, but modded roms are better. that's my option. Because the stock rom is so perfect, we're hailing the rom, but we better make sure that doesn't offend the developers. Even it is perfect, it is still 4.1, we will need 4.2/4.3 roms very soon, and LG won't catch up with our interest. So, we better appreciate what developers are trying now. Pls don't say we don't want mod roms.
For me, I just have one request to the devs, whatever you do, pls make sure the Quick Remote is in your rom, coz I'm already obsessed with it so much. now I can control everything around me with my phone.