Will this phone end up with terrible development such as with the original epic?
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Maybe renaming it to the epic is hurting us, lmao
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locoboi187 said:
Will this phone end up with terrible development such as with the original epic?
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I didn't have that phone. Was it's community also ungrateful while feeling entitled to work done by others for free?
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I didn't have that phone. Was it's community also ungrateful while feeling entitled to work done by others for free?
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Probably not, these are new age modders who think just because they have a certain device it should come with all bells and whistles that take a good 6 months to develope. Did I mention they want it now!!!
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Well, devs are staying behind because we are all starting to see how the game is going. Too many Android phones are coming out at once and money ain't coming any faster. I'm sure if people paid devs to come dev for the device, we'd have more devs...so if you want to pay for someone's E4GT, go right on ahead. If you don't want to, just wait it out. This phone is already pretty sweet and the problems we do have, a dev probably won't be able to fix those..so..yeah.
This phone is sick dude, just enjoy it and be happy that you don't own a device where you have to depend on the devs just to be able to get through the day.
Having it from release date, the OG Epic did NOT have terrible development. Just not the development some people wanted. And there were "some" people who were ungrateful and rude, like with any device. This one already has great developers, and we are slowly getting more. Be patient.
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Having it from release date, the OG Epic did NOT have terrible development. Just not the development some people wanted. And there were "some" people who were ungrateful and rude, like with any device. This one already has great developers, and we are slowly getting more. Be patient.
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The Epic scene was pretty good. A lot of people came from that Evo...smh, the Evo messed the whole game up if ya ask me. Now people willl sit around and say their phone is garbage if it doesn't have the same dev scene that the Evo had.
Little do most people know that the Evo was damn near the same device as the Desire, N1 and Dinc. So most of the reason why its scene was so great was because a dev from any one of those phones could just port their roms over and all they had to do was swap out the hardware files and the kernel. Other than those 2 things, everything was damn near exactly the same.
Yeah I think we just have to be patience
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I've seen a few well known devs from the HTC Evo post here, so I'm pretty optimistic.
Viperboy is coming. That's another developer for you!
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what do we really need here? cyanogen and miui and stock roms. that is asking alot but that would be epic. for now i am loving starburst. love asop but don't remove touchwiz launcher and widgets. just my opinion.
I had the First Epic and the Dev's there were GREAT. We may not have had as many as some phones like the Evo but the ones we had did great work and who needs 100 roms to choose from when the ones we had did the trick. We had some great Roms and Themes and the fixes came pretty fast.
I have not rooted this phone yet mainly because I have not felt the need. The only thing I am missing is WiFi Tether. I am sure when this LOS gets worked out and the devs get their hands on the original source we will see much more. I am grateful for anyone that helps make this phone better, but it is pretty dang good out of the box. The best I have ever had.
Where did u hear that from
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OG epic scene was great.... kinda started slowing down with the whole froyo debacle, because it was pretty well known sammy was already working on ginger.... so evsryone was waiting for the final, correct source.... still are i think... i gotta check... gf has my epic and id love to see a finished gb...
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Probably not, these are new age modders who think just because they have a certain device it should come with all bells and whistles that take a good 6 months to develope. Did I mention they want it now!!!
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Now?? pffft what are you talking about? They want that **** out on launch day! wtf you slacking devs that dont get paid and do this all for free?? Get back in the sweatshop and do work that requires more thinking than a sweatshop worker in china but gets "paid"(donations) less! These devs should worship us and do what we tell them when we tell them! When a phone is released that very day we expect EVERY MOD imaginable, every "bell and whistle" and a choice of at least 10 roms and 10 kernels..
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Viperboy is coming. That's another developer for you!
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I cant wait until viper comes over! That will be the first custom rom I run on this phone.
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I didn't have that phone. Was it's community also ungrateful while feeling entitled to work done by others for free?
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Haha right?!
i have been spoiled
evo had so much going on i miss flashing new roms,all i need is cyanogen 7 and miui and a good sense rom nothing else.i miss sense but love this phone,the launchers with sense themes have no souls to them.wish i new how to even start making or porting a rom myself sux been getting bored of touch wiz
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evo had so much going on i miss flashing new roms,all i need is cyanogen 7 and miui and a good sense rom nothing else.i miss sense but love this phone,the launchers with sense themes have no souls to them.wish i new how to even start making or porting a rom myself sux been getting bored of touch wiz
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sense is pretty hard to get working on a non HTC phone. I dont think I've ever heard of a sense rom (that fully worked right) ported over to a non htc phone(at least that I know of). It's not impossible(from what I hear) but it is very very very difficult(so I hear)
locoboi187 said:
Will this phone end up with terrible development such as with the original epic?
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God I hope not, ****ing devs lol
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Probably not, but it sure seems like the forums got real quiet the last few days. Just sayin....
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Probably not, but it sure seems like the forums got real quiet the last few days. Just sayin....
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got to agree. does seem a bit quiet. i am keeping both (well, the inc goes to the daughter but i will keep tweaking it for her) so i want the devs to keep working on the inc.
It's probably temporary, the Inc community will last for a while.
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Recently (as in a few days ago) coming from an Eris, which was 'end-of-life' in the middle of last year, and then received Gingerbread almost instantaneously after it was released to the public thanks to our fine devs here at XDA, I highly doubt the DInc will die out any time soon. This phone has way too much potential.
I expert it do die down in time, but the CM machine will keep chugging. Honestly, so long as Cyanogen has a DInc ROM, I'll be content. I use launcher pro, and prefer stock android over anything else, so not having new versions of sense isn't a big deal to me. Sometimes I like to jump on the MIUI train, but I always end up back with Cyanogen. They always support their phones so well, I imagine development for cm will continue long past the DInc's shelf-life.
I think even if it does dwindle, it will only be minor. As long as we have CM and a good maintaner we should always have something new and better to throw on our phones. The only thing is I've always wanted to see AOSP roms with tv-out but I see very little future in anyone dev that now that interest in it has died down.
I have been tryin z roms lately with very good success, and their cameras are the bomb. Aosp is nice an smooth, but i like the option to switch atound alot, plus cm camera just isnt that good. Im runnin miui gb now, with zero issues, kinda shox me for a first release just how good this rom is. I would love to see gb sense though just to have it.
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Only for a while guys go check out the specs on the Incredible S on engagdet
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nerogold said:
Only for a while guys go check out the specs on the Incredible S on engagdet
Not gonna lie, that phone looked sharp.
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The devs have shifted focus to the Thunderbolt to give it a jump start in the root and rom arena. After this happens I'm sure we'll seen new stuff for the DInc again. Shoot! Someone will probably port the TB ROM to DInc.
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The devs have shifted focus to the Thunderbolt to give it a jump start in the root and rom arena. After this happens I'm sure we'll seen new stuff for the DInc again. Shoot! Someone will probably port the TB ROM to DInc.
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That rom has been leaked, figure it would have been ported by now.
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I can't speak for all developers but I myself will be returning to work on the Inc as soon as the major crap is done with the Thunderbolt such as CWM and CM 7. I'll still be here but not full time just yet.
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The devs have shifted focus to the Thunderbolt to give it a jump start in the root and rom arena. After this happens I'm sure we'll seen new stuff for the DInc again. Shoot! Someone will probably port the TB ROM to DInc.
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I just don't see the rom being much better granted the new Sense might be cool to look at.
DINC // CM7 RC2 // SLAYHER#9
I may be completely wrong in saying this but i think the tb is actually going to increase the amount of dev on the dinc. When you look at the evo and dinc there are roms that run on both. From what ive heard of the tb its basically a evo just a lil bit better. So as soon as a good way is made for easy transfer of rom from tb to dinc or to evo we will have more options on the dinc. Plus as soon as the problems are sorted out of how to get tb roms and code to run on the dinc we will be getting more updates to stock releases.
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I can't speak for all developers but I myself will be returning to work on the Inc as soon as the major crap is done with the Thunderbolt such as CWM and CM 7. I'll still be here but not full time just yet.
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Good to know you have our back.
I had an Iphone 4, didn't like iOS so I decided to go check out the thunderbolt, I was less than impressed. No 4g around me, and I didn't want to pay $100 on top of giving my iphone 4 back. So I picked up an incredible, and couldn't be happier. Its such a solid phone. Perfect size.
I personally cannot wait until people start (hopefully) coming back to the Inc, it's been dead here lately, more than usual anyway.
Don't want to see the Inc die.
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I personally cannot wait until people start (hopefully) coming back to the Inc, it's been dead here lately, more than usual anyway.
Don't want to see the Inc die.
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Yes it has, no new roms, no ipdates, only cm nightlies, and all forums slow. Its too bad, this phone still has alot to offer. But hell, when i gey new toysi play with them more also, so i cant blame thosr wjo got thetb
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Yes it has, no new roms, no ipdates, only cm nightlies, and all forums slow. Its too bad, this phone still has alot to offer. But hell, when i gey new toysi play with them more also, so i cant blame thosr wjo got thetb
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Makes sense, I watch the EVO forums still rock, Nexus One forums will always be rocking, and with the Inc being such a close relative, just surprised activity has fallen off a little.
Yeah, im just hopin tgings start pickin up soon. There are alot of roms that could be ported, but nothing as of lately.
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Wow og epic gets cm9 alpha lol.
While we have better hardware all around and no ics leak or cm9 lol.
Samsung should support the flagship better . But i expect strange things from them as far as support. We wont get ics until gnec is released.
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The hardware makes no difference. The Devs on the OG Epic have been working on CM for over a year. Just be patient and we will have a port.
The problem is that people have hounded the devs and they got frustrated.
I didn't read much about it, but im pretty sure its a port and probably wont get an official ICS update. It has nothing to do with Samsung and their top tier phones.
The OG epic devs really worked hard to get to this point ... Im happy for them they really deserve it best community ever !
.... We'll get there soon Patience is the key look how long it took for things to pick up over there for example ...
How the hell...is there another thread about the Epic geting CM9 alpha? You know, it could be because the Epic has been out for a while now, it also could be that the Epic shares strong hardware similarities to the Nexus S which has a fully working ICS. Or...maybe it's because after so many months without CM and MIUI, the Epic owners don't complain about getting updates like the Epic Touch owners. Just my theories...
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The OG epic devs really worked hard to get to this point ... Im happy for them they really deserve it best community ever !
.... We'll get there soon Patience is the key look how long it took for things to pick up over there for example ...
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I can't stop staring at your sig o_o.....boobies. She is so hot
BTW I am looking for the Devs working on the CM port, I want to help. But they are like ninjas and everyone i ask has no idea who is working on it.
Its because of threads like this our devs leave or don't care/ wanna share. What happen to being nice and appreciating devs!
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xSaint21 said:
The OG epic devs really worked hard to get to this point ... Im happy for them they really deserve it best community ever !
.... We'll get there soon Patience is the key look how long it took for things to pick up over there for example ...
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I really have trouble reading your posts, also if can post a comment in every thread that would be great.
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I really have trouble reading your posts, also if can post a comment in every thread that would be great.
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+1 LOL. I was thinking the same thing. Although, his run-on sentence was executed with perfection.
xSaint21 said:
The OG epic devs really worked hard to get to this point ... Im happy for them they really deserve it best community ever !
.... We'll get there soon Patience is the key look how long it took for things to pick up over there for example ...
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Lol they get fully fucional cm7 and cm9 after we switch. Ffs
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Lol.my phone hates you as much as you hate on epic touch devs.I aint going to lie that cuts deep.
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these threads are getting crazy the og epic has been out for a year and some months now the epic touch has been out for 5 months people are so inpatient.
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I can't stop staring at your sig o_o.....boobies. She is so hot
BTW I am looking for the Devs working on the CM port, I want to help. But they are like ninjas and everyone i ask has no idea who is working on it.
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Some of the more impatient persons here have sent the devs into the shadows while they secretly work on this beast of a phone. I'm not 100% sure but I don't believe team rouge is some how involved... I'm of course just going off of my own gut feeling
HOLY ****
Seriously???
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really guys stop making threads like this. This is the reason why we don't have ICS I'm patiently waiting for it too. But, you guys really???
Hey guys. Theres is an Awesome ICS rom being worked on (not me). the party involved in its creation is one of my favorite here on xda. I can 100% promise you that it does exist and that this phone is not being forgotten. Just keep on keepin on and pretty soon you will all be complaining about how many ICS roms there are in the Dev section :] .
I'm on an OG Epic running CM9 right now. The Epic devs are getting so far now because we have source. As soon as the devs over here get proper source and time, the sky is the limit. A dev over there has been working hard on switching the file system over to MTD and got it running just a few weeks ago. That is really a time consuming process. Just have patience.
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all the good stuff comes out when the phone is out dated lol
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all the good stuff comes out when the phone is out dated lol
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Well said my friend! Once the SGS3 comes out we will get ICS!
It's not out yet because you haven't developed it yet. Better get to work on it!
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Where are all the devs? Is it me or does it seem that only several roms are on the first page of the Development forum? btw im not referring to the Original Development forum lol... It kinda surprises me with all the hype surrounding this phone that there aren't more roms being cooked up... Im by no means complaining im happy with Blazer but just surprised.
It'll pick up the gs2 was a little sluggish out of the gate too
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I dont get what ROMS people are looking for. You have touchwiz, and there is only so much that can be done with that, and you have aosp...so much can be done with that. ROMS can only be modified so much and still be fuctional. If your comparing it to the epic, or the evo or something, your probably taking about themes. I noticed a lot of the same crap, it just looked different and "dev-c" called it a rom, but it was the same thing 'dev-b" did, that was the same thing "dev-a" did, each one just looked different, or had different apps added or removed.
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I dont get what ROMS people are looking for. You have touchwiz, and there is only so much that can be done with that, and you have aosp...so much can be done with that. ROMS can only be modified so much and still be fuctional. If your comparing it to the epic, or the evo or something, your probably taking about themes. I noticed a lot of the same crap, it just looked different and "dev-c" called it a rom, but it was the same thing 'dev-b" did, that was the same thing "dev-a" did, each one just looked different, or had different apps added or removed.
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Spot on. Original dev is pretty the only real dev, and its moving quite fast.
Cm9 here already works better than my old phones cm9.
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Im not into roms anymore. Theres always something missing from the roms that stock had and then i end up going back to stock for it.
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Im not into roms anymore. Theres always something missing from the roms that stock had and then i end up going back to stock for it.
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Well, if you're you're referring to AOSP, then that's correct, because that's what it is. AOSP is stock, barebone google android; no touchwiz, sense, motoblur, etc; those features are tied into the framework of that rom.
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Well, if you're you're referring to AOSP, then that's correct, because that's what it is. AOSP is stock, barebone google android; no touchwiz, sense, motoblur, etc; those features are tied into the framework of that rom.
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No I was referring to all of the roms not just aosp.
Yep the "devs" are hard at work on cynogen and aokp and doing amazing at it.. ......... they all deserve some thanks and recognition. We are maybe only a few weeks away from a really truly functional jb build. We Are fortunate to have real devs
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A couple devs just made it over and are cooking up some stuff.
Unless it gets pushed back like everything else Sprint has done, this phone should get a JB update most likely in August. Once it's updated and source is released I think you will see a lot more ROMS. I think they might be getting a little bored with ICS (even though there inst much difference between the two)
I should of been more specific. Lol I was talking about my rom experience from the SG2. I have yet to try out roms on the SG3.
I would just like to say I am entirely satisfied with the progress being made and as soon as I can comment in that forum I will tell them personally. I also intend to donate. That is probably the best way to get things moving. :laugh:
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Spot on. Original dev is pretty the only real dev, and its moving quite fast.
Cm9 here already works better than my old phones cm9.
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Unless it gets pushed back like everything else Sprint has done, this phone should get a JB update most likely in August. Once it's updated and source is released I think you will see a lot more ROMS. I think they might be getting a little bored with ICS (even though there inst much difference between the two)
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I think August is a bit generous. The Epic was supposed to have Froyo August 2010 but didn't get it until March 2011. I'd be very surprised to see JB on this officially before October.
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Wicked sensations it's on its way soon. Read the ROM threads. Plenty of devs helping support other roms while they make theirs.
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Wicked sensations it's on its way soon. Read the ROM threads. Plenty of devs helping support other roms while they make theirs.
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I really don't consider myself a dev. Its one of those roms that everybody is saying is not "dev ". I actually agree, but some people still enjoy. But thanks though. But I think we still have some great all around devs in both sections. I'm sure more will come, but I'm definitely happy with what we have right now.
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This phone has been in circulation for what... 2 months? Oh how beggers love to be choosers. This thread is disturbing, with all this "real dev" mumbo. Those that can write from scratch are few and far between. Don't take away from those whom spend countless hours tweaking leaks and source, allowing us the opportunity to choose what fits our likings.
Congrats OP! Way to demotivate those who are putting in the long hours. Until you can do what the "non devs" can do, I say ZIP IT!
Q&A or not, this thread should be closed!
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Yeah I realize most devs are hard at work on JB... Like i said im not complaining cuz like one usuer said there isn't much to improve upon with this phone even with stock touchwiz... Coming from the E3d forums a new rom would pop up every week practically... but i see this is a different animal... Just cool to get everyone's opinion thats all...
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Yeah I realize most devs are hard at work on JB... Like i said im not complaining cuz like one usuer said there isn't much to improve upon with this phone even with stock touchwiz... Coming from the E3d forums a new rom would pop up every week practically... but i see this is a different animal... Just cool to get everyone's opinion thats all...
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Well, ya kinda started a fire storm. I'm not trying to be rude, but you should've navigated through the dev forums before posting this. Not saying the replys are your fault, but some of them are low blows to those who put lots and lots of time.
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Well, ya kinda started a fire storm. I'm not trying to be rude, but you should've navigated through the dev forums before posting this. Not saying the replys are your fault, but some of them are low blows to those who put lots and lots of time.
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Not to point out the obvious but, it seems like you are the only one taking offense and creating a "fire storm". It didn't read to me like he was putting anyone down but, asking an honest question. The devs we have are great. Wouldn't trade them for anything. We are lacking in quantity though. Rather have quality than quantity so I'm perfectly ok with that. I guess I'm just confused by your comments though because I was looking for the trolls and flames and didn't see anyone taking offense to his question. Either way we are all entitled to our own opinions. I agree with both of you but, not your particular attitude. *shrug*
Since the point of my last thread was not answered, I thought I'd try again. (And yes, I do realize why.)
So without the passive disappointment, what's the road map in terms of ROMs?
I understand AOSP, and probably AOKP, are coming soon.
Anyone heard anything about MIUI?
Or a Phablet ROM?
Oh, and thread monitor, I'm not mentally ill.
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Once we get a stable AOSP rom, the ports will come out and yes that includes MIUI. And also........
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I am not going to flame you.
Listen, this is not an extremely popular device. It is a great device. Just not a very popular one in terms of sales in the US. With that you can go one of three ways. Wish for things that are never to come, switch devices, or learn something.
XDA has great and I mean GREAT resources. You just have to get out of the device forum to find them. Chances are you won't have to spend any money either(if you own a computer). Go check out the developer forums. They are full of tutorials. None of this stuff is rocket science. Most of it is just reading..... and copy and pasting because someone already did it first. If you break it your out 300 bucks tops on Craigslist. We will help you.
In the famous words of a fallen brother:
I'm Gonna Make A Change, For Once In My Life
It's Gonna Feel Real Good, Gonna Make A Difference
Gonna Make It Right . . .
I'm Starting With The Man In the Mirror
I'm Asking Him To Change his ways
And No Message Could Have been and clearer
If You Wanna Make The World a better place
Take A Look At Yourself, And
Then Make A Change
Yo I agree. I came from plenty of phones with lots of Roms and just general stuff to flash the only phone I've had that was this bland in dev department was my other LG's the revolution and the spectrum. **** even the vivid had crap development but was a he'll of a lot better than this and that phone was a he'll of a lot more hidden buy the one x than this should be from the s3. **** all I keep reading is how there are so many great devs with this phone but there isint even any good stock moded Roms or more than 1 kernel. I switched from the vivid an amazing phone just because lack of roms. And I might have to again. Its sad that a phone this super can still suck. One thing I have been seriously considering is the lgog to nexus4 hack. And just getting my fix that way I've been hoping to see someone do some fixing to the hack to give us full sd card space and capacitive button fix. And I would have done it already.
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**** I just checked the att side and they have way more work for the same dang phone. Even the Canadian edition has more work than us with the sprint. Its sucks for me considering I wanted the att edition. But was able to get the sprint edition for like 200 bucks cheaper than I could find the att. I just use my phone on WiFi so I don't care what service. But now how can I trade this for the att one? I can't that's how lol
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Look I come from the GNex which has a bunch of ROMs. I don't complain to much though because I know that they are waiting to get the JB source. I could always switch back to GNex but I don't because I know the devs don't want to work to hard on something when another better thing is coming out soon. And besides they are working on CM9 which is still something. This phone did not have really good sales to be having much support. At least we have it.
Oh and there is someone who did release a JB ROM. It's just really buggy.
In the past 2 months we have sold more optimus G's than any other phone in our store. The BOGO is really helping this great phone out.
BTW today I sold 6 optimus G's, 1 galaxy s3 and no other phone. This has been pretty consistent sense the first of the year.
If its been like this for most other stores then its just a matter of time before some kid or experienced developer gives this phone the spotlight it deserves.
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The AT&T OG and Sprint OG are not the same phone. Different radios, partition map to start. The Nexus 4 is also not the same device for the same reasons mentioned. A different partition map alone is enough to brick a device. The same thing applies to the GNex and other phones.
The LGOG software is broken. The source code is a mess. Joker has had to pull a number of fixes from from outside Sprint LGOG channels to fix things. Without a clean, stable and functional base, devs have had to spend more time fixing things than building ROMs. I personally have been building custom ROM's since the Palm T|C and the LGOG is by far the worst device I've ever deved on.
Not enough ROMs you say. Almost every stock based ROM is derivative and can hardly be counted as a true ROM. They are little more than themes and tweaks packaged as ROMs. Keeping that in mind the are only three true ROMs, Stock, AOSP and Hybrid. Everything beyond that is pretty wrapping.
If you consider build.prop tweaks, optimizations, ui changes and apk swaps a ROM then look at my Motorola deblur/debloat. It does all of those things on a dozen or more phones and is nothing more than a script. Calkulin did something similar over in Samsung land.
If you would like, I could very easily push out three or four different "ROMs" a day for whole week and turn this into the copycat nightmare the Evo 4G turned into. The other option is let us get a good stable stock base and AOSP base and let themers worry about what font or battery icon to use. BTW where are the themers, we could really use some.
I came from the photon and gnex ). Joker, marz, and shabby are 3 of the best devs I've encountered. With 2 out of 3 working on this device you know eventually we'll get something worth the wait.
I have a question for one of you though. Jellybean won't be out for a few months considering sprints rep for delayed updates could we expect to see aosp for ics and just not worry about jellybean for the moment? That would at least boost the amount of choices we have for now. enough to crave the flashaholics till work is finished with the jellybean based roms
Or was this the complications you were talking about? Even with ics
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Just look at it this way. Dragons are coming. every dev is going to jump start as soon as jelly hits. Right now it's all on LG and Sprint.
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sharkboy0901 said:
Just look at it this way. Dragons are coming. every dev is going to jump start as soon as jelly hits. Right now it's all on LG and Sprint.
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I'm content with what we have now. I have helped a few friends find ROMs for their phones, and like Loki pointed out, it can be a nightmare. There is no way to differentiate ROMs on some phones. This is the first phone I have had that Joker, Th3Bill and Loki have dev'd for, but xboxfanj is excellent. AdriVelasquez also strikes me as being a real solid dev for us, although I don't have prior experience with him either.
I guess the point of my post is to point out that things ARE in fact happening. The ROMs we have are great and stable. I have not found a single ROM that I couldn't work with for a week or more. That certainly cannot be said for most ROMs. With the Epic 4G, there were a lot of ROMs, but some that I flashed made my phone completely useless from the onset.
AOSP, AOKP, MIUI, CM and PA I think will all make it to this phone. Realistically, aside from these, I agree with Loki's assessment. There are ROMs only in the sense that somebody changed one thing in the stock experience. Those five are the ones that I am most concerned with because they offer such a unique experience to the user.
Loki is moving, th3bill is extra busy. Im working 2 jobs plus kids and without my build box ATM. Xbox is making great progress in a way that will help us in the long run. We have another kernel dev that's helping out now. So calm down and let us work
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I'm plenty calm just a little disappointed. But Im still here I guess I could be a better motivator than just bashing the overall development.
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I'm plenty calm just a little disappointed. But Im still here I guess I could be a better motivator than just bashing the overall development.
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Explain to me why you are disappointed? If you are so disappointed then where is your custom ROM?
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Explain to me why you are disappointed? If you are so disappointed then where is your custom ROM?
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If I knew how and had the capability I would be working on it. But I am a hardware guy give me a broken phone piece by piece and I'll make it a brand new phone. Its what I'm good at. Software is just super foreign to me. Not everyone Is good at everything.
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If I knew how and had the capability I would be working on it. But I am a hardware guy give me a broken phone piece by piece and I'll make it a brand new phone. Its what I'm good at. Software is just super foreign to me. Not everyone Is good at everything.
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I think u should just dump this phone and get urself an S3 if u want roms, seriously. I'm so sick of the complaining! :banghead::banghead::banghead:
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toprock23 said:
I think u should just dump this phone and get urself an S3 if u want roms, seriously. I'm so sick of the complaining! :banghead::banghead::banghead:
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I'm sick of baby's who can't take some simple complaining. Its not like we're saying **** you all your a waste of a person. Were complaining that something we own and paid good money for is not like we would like it to be or what we were hoping it would be. Some of us have gotten used to the idea of many roms and lots of things happening. Its not fair to yell at us for wondering why it's not the same with this device. There is no need to be a **** and attack people. Were not attacking any developers at best we are attacking the general development on this phone. **** for all you know we could be wishing that more devs had this phone and things like that. Don't just decide we're dicks because we want something. Treat everyone with respect. That goes for devs and users.
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I'm sick of baby's who can't take some simple complaining. Its not like we're saying **** you all your a waste of a person. Were complaining that something we own and paid good money for is not like we would like it to be or what we were hoping it would be. Some of us have gotten used to the idea of many roms and lots of things happening. Its not fair to yell at us for wondering why it's not the same with this device. There is no need to be a **** and attack people. Were not attacking any developers at best we are attacking the general development on this phone. **** for all you know we could be wishing that more devs had this phone and things like that. Don't just decide we're dicks because we want something. Treat everyone with respect. That goes for devs and users.
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Wow u think ur the only one complaining? Obviously ur too lazy to read whats been going on. And I'm sorry but the price you paid for the phone doesn't come with awesome devs and all u can flash roms. The post u just started is like shoving **** back down our throats.
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Wow u think ur the only one complaining? Obviously ur too lazy to read whats been going on. And I'm sorry but the price you paid for the phone doesn't come with awesome devs and all u can flash roms. The post u just started is like shoving **** back down our throats.
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I'm not going to get pulled into a argument. Aparently you didn't get the point of my reply. Have a good day.
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I'm not going to get pulled into a argument. Aparently you didn't get the point of my reply. Have a good day.
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Theen what was the point, you know, besides being Captain Obvious.
Assimilated using the interface that interacts with the advanced internet.
Jesus, I wish I was a mod for this forum.
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Did something new come out? Have we hit a brick wall? At one point the roms and updates were being cranked out.. now nothing. What's going on?
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I think a lot of pressure was for us to get jelly bean. We got it and things calmed down. We still have development. But, this device just isn't in enough hands. When CM get finished that should give us a pretty stable foundation for other popular AOSP roms. So, at this point that seems to be what is the most important milestone. I don't know how that is progressing though.
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I think a lot of pressure was for us to get jelly bean. We got it and things calmed down. We still have development. But, this device just isn't in enough hands. When CM get finished that should give us a pretty stable foundation for other popular AOSP roms. So, at this point that seems to be what is the most important milestone. I don't know how that is progressing though.
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I'm really glad the first response wasn't a "hey stop asking, flame flame flame."
But yeah, I feel the same. The camera and other fixes in CM will make it stable and people will build on top of that. Why bother making new ROMs if your old ones are good and why build on CM if the camera (a pretty popular use of smartphones nowadays) isn't working?
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I'm really glad the first response wasn't a "hey stop asking, flame flame flame."
But yeah, I feel the same. The camera and other fixes in CM will make it stable and people will build on top of that. Why bother making new ROMs if your old ones are good and why build on CM if the camera (a pretty popular use of smartphones nowadays) isn't working?
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I think I've been around here long enough to warrant asking a question like that. I've done my fair amount of contribution. Kc thanks for the answer. Megamaster, I agree, although I love aosp it would be nice to see a highly optimized, highly stable, and heavily themed LG based ROM too. For some people it's just their cup of tea.
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A lot of our devs also have some major stuff going on with personal life too.... New jobs, new kids, etc. Congrats to all, btw.
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oh the amazing things coming soon for our device...
the calm before the storm
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oh the amazing things coming soon for our device...
the calm before the storm
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Get some!
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What's needed most is themes. Good, full themes. I would kill to see somebody port Myn's Warm over to the LGOG. I'm sure somebody would like to see a TW or the new Moto look as well. Nobody has even bothered to mod any of the theme apks that come built in to the LG software. It may not be CM theme manager level of awesome but our phones does have a theme manager built in.
Except for base ROMs like AOSP/CM there really isn't a reason for new ROMs. To be honest, Imperium Initiative isn't even a ROM, I simply released it as one because I was feeling lazy and didn't want to write the script for it. If I had, it only would have been around a 50-60MB DL.
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What's needed most is themes. Good, full themes. I would kill to see somebody port Myn's Warm over to the LGOG.
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Definitely planning on that. I ported it to my epic and once I get sense working, I will go for it.
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I'm content with what we have for the moment. And I've been poking around with some files myself trying to get features we should have (QSlide apps) working and other things of interest.
What languages/scripts and what do you guys make/bake and mod/theme Roms with and in? I know just some of the stepping stones, but have lots of time to learn. With a bit of self study I don't see myself being able to make roms, but surely theming/modding.
can anybody port iOS? Totally kidding.
I'm looking forward to what is coming, but at the same time, we do have some very good, stable ROMs. Something that can be said for our device that cannot be said for many others is that all of our ROMs that are not in testing are stable. Quality before quantity and all that. I was looking through the GS3 forums for a friend yesterday and they have so many options you simply could not possibly know what is good and what is not without reading pages upon pages of posts. It was awful!
Anyway, I think it's a valid question but from my POV I'm pretty happy with where we are at.
Plus, the roms we have are their own build your own rom kits. The possibilities are pretty endless.
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can anybody port iOS? Totally kidding.
I'm looking forward to what is coming, but at the same time, we do have some very good, stable ROMs. Something that can be said for our device that cannot be said for many others is that all of our ROMs that are not in testing are stable. Quality before quantity and all that. I was looking through the GS3 forums for a friend yesterday and they have so many options you simply could not possibly know what is good and what is not without reading pages upon pages of posts. It was awful!
Anyway, I think it's a valid question but from my POV I'm pretty happy with where we are at.
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Even if someone could get it fully working, they couldn't release it because Apple would sue their ass.
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great work by the devs we have so far. My phone is 100x better than it would have been at stock. Im a lurker but definitely appreciate the efforts of all. Thanks
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Even if someone could get it fully working, they couldn't release it because Apple would sue their ass.
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Apple wouldn't have a leg to stand on if they hadn't patented that extremely unique rectangular shape
outerpip said:
A lot of our devs also have some major stuff going on with personal life too.... New jobs, new kids, etc. Congrats to all, btw.
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Congrats guys...
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I definitely would like to see our theme manager utilized. Even if we had an inverted stock theme. All the menus are so damn bright, wouldn't mind seeing a dark theme. Maybe a blue theme... I just think for a device of this caliber we should have more.
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What's needed most is themes. Good, full themes. I would kill to see somebody port Myn's Warm over to the LGOG. I'm sure somebody would like to see a TW or the new Moto look as well. Nobody has even bothered to mod any of the theme apks that come built in to the LG software. It may not be CM theme manager level of awesome but our phones does have a theme manager built in.
Except for base ROMs like AOSP/CM there really isn't a reason for new ROMs. To be honest, Imperium Initiative isn't even a ROM, I simply released it as one because I was feeling lazy and didn't want to write the script for it. If I had, it only would have been around a 50-60MB DL.
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Ahhh yes!! Myn's roms were the most beautiful and elegant I've ever used. I had the OG Evo and the Evo 3D and his work was always top notch. Donated to him more than anyone else. I would love to see his work on the Optimus G.
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Ahhh yes!! Myn's roms were the most beautiful and elegant I've ever used. I had the OG Evo and the Evo 3D and his work was always top notch. Donated to him more than anyone else. I would love to see his work on the Optimus G.
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Yeah they are beautiful. Especially on non HTC devices such as the epic. It was glorious.
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