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[Q] Google Goggles Camera Bug (1.8.1)

Hey there guys, I've been using XDA-Developers for a long time, it certainly is the #1 source of info for us android users and modders. Finally registered myself in the hopes I can get some help with an issue I'm having atm. While using Google Goggles 1.8.1 in Snapshot mode the camera will be all messed up showing a greenish deformed image, as a matter of fact looks like a thermal camera or something similar. If I press the button to take the snapshot, strangely it works fine, if I go into continuous mode it doesn't have the same problem, works fine.
I'm using the Beta 14 of Cyanogenmod 9.
The camera application works perfectly, just google goggles is messed up for some reason.
Anybody ever seen this problem? Thanks in advance.

switch to a gingerbread rom and your problem will be gone
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demkantor said:
switch to a gingerbread rom and your problem will be gone
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Hi, thanks for the fast response. I'll certainly try that, did you have that experience too or is it just a guess since I'm using a Beta ROM? Thanks again.

there isnt and may never be an official ics rom for the vision, this means the developers have not had the proper drivers for the camera so it is hacked together on all ics roms. these roms have come a long way over the past six months or so but any app using the camera may never work 100%
the best ics roms for the g2/dz (in my opinion) are elitemod and mimicry, you can try one of those and see if google goggles works fine or just move down to 2.3x

demkantor said:
there isnt and may never be an official ics rom for the vision, this means the developers have not had the proper drivers for the camera so it is hacked together on all ics roms. these roms have come a long way over the past six months or so but any app using the camera may never work 100%
the best ics roms for the g2/dz (in my opinion) are elitemod and mimicry, you can try one of those and see if google goggles works fine or just move down to 2.3x
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I hope that's not 100% accurate, cause I don't see why the G2/DZ couldn't have an official ICS release, I mean, it's hardware can support it perfectly so what would be the reason? Anyway, I'll revert later to 2.3x and see how Google Goggles handles, but even if it works fine I'll get back to the latest beta of Cyanogenmod 9, everything's been working perfectly so far, aside from this Google Goggles problem, and if it never gets solved I can still live with that, I usually don't even use it, just wondered why it wasn't working as it should. But thanks for the info so far.

Dimitri Vladkov said:
I hope that's not 100% accurate, cause I don't see why the G2/DZ couldn't have an official ICS release, I mean, it's hardware can support it perfectly so what would be the reason? Anyway, I'll revert later to 2.3x and see how Google Goggles handles, but even if it works fine I'll get back to the latest beta of Cyanogenmod 9, everything's been working perfectly so far, aside from this Google Goggles problem, and if it never gets solved I can still live with that, I usually don't even use it, just wondered why it wasn't working as it should. But thanks for the info so far.
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it is sad but true, there may be loads of reasons for no official update but the main one may simply be htc has decided they want us to move to a newer phone, even if hardware supports the latest firmware they will must feel if they keep supporting old phones people will not buy their new ones. even if this is an incorrect assumption the g2/dz (in my opinion) still is the best phone to date so I wouldn't update anyhow.
like I said have fun with gingerbread for a while and then consider elitemod ics or mimicry, those are the only two ics roms that I like. but right now I'm back to cm7 for a while, I too like a working camera, and by working I mean to the quality gingerbread cameras work on the vision.
oh and I like your name
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demkantor said:
it is sad but true, there may be loads of reasons for no official update but the main one may simply be htc has decided they want us to move to a newer phone, even if hardware supports the latest firmware they will must feel if they keep supporting old phones people will not buy their new ones. even if this is an incorrect assumption the g2/dz (in my opinion) still is the best phone to date so I wouldn't update anyhow.
like I said have fun with gingerbread for a while and then consider elitemod ics or mimicry, those are the only two ics roms that I like. but right now I'm back to cm7 for a while, I too like a working camera, and by working I mean to the quality gingerbread cameras work on the vision.
oh and I like your name
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You're right, and I totally agree, I won't update my G2/DZ anytime soon, it still serves me more than well and I love the physical keyboard. Some people don't care about it, but I like to run some emulators, genesis, snes and the likes and to play using the physical keyboard instead of touching the screen is a whole different world. Also, I don't see the point of having a big screen latest smartphone when you lose like half the screen when you have to type cause of the virtual keyboard. Who knows, if HTC ever releases in the future a Desire Z 2 maintaining everything that's great about the G2/DZ but upgrading to the latest hardware, I might buy it. Oh, and thanks for the compliment.

have a friend with the same name is all, have fun flashing new roms!
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demkantor said:
it is sad but true, there may be loads of reasons for no official update but the main one may simply be htc has decided they want us to move to a newer phone, even if hardware supports the latest firmware they will must feel if they keep supporting old phones people will not buy their new ones.
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QFT
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demkantor said:
have a friend with the same name is all, have fun flashing new roms!
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Same name and same surname? Wow, never seen another one like me lol. Thanks, I always do, love to mod my phone, just bought a new 1800mAh Mugen Power Battery for it, changed the xeon led for a new one (original went faulty) and now I'm just waiting for my new Zagg InvisibleSHIELD replacement and new rubberized cover. =] Hey, do you run your G2/DZ overclocked? I'm running right now at 1.5GMhz max and the original 800Mhz minimum using the SmartAssV2 Governor. The battery life on ICS is WAAAAAAY better than it was with Ginger.

Dimitri Vladkov said:
I hope that's not 100% accurate, cause I don't see why the G2/DZ couldn't have an official ICS release, I mean, it's hardware can support it perfectly so what would be the reason? Anyway, I'll revert later to 2.3x and see how Google Goggles handles, but even if it works fine I'll get back to the latest beta of Cyanogenmod 9, everything's been working perfectly so far, aside from this Google Goggles problem, and if it never gets solved I can still live with that, I usually don't even use it, just wondered why it wasn't working as it should. But thanks for the info so far.
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Marketing, it's old enough to the point that it's more economically feasible without as much *****yness from consumers to not bother providing drivers/etc for it when consumers can just buy a brand new model to get ICS.
I'm in the same boat though, my camera is 'functional' I can see the screen just fine and can take a picture, it just not as feature-packed or as high quality as it was with gingerbread.

kbeezie said:
Marketing, it's old enough to the point that it's more economically feasible without as much *****yness from consumers to not bother providing drivers/etc for it when consumers can just buy a brand new model to get ICS.
I'm in the same boat though, my camera is 'functional' I can see the screen just fine and can take a picture, it just not as feature-packed or as high quality as it was with gingerbread.
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Exactly, but even so the Pros of running ICS on the G2/DZ easily surpass the Cons. I for one can say my battery life at least doubled, and the system runs way more smoothly than it used to with Gingerbread. I guess now we can only hope that those great guys at the development teams can come up with solutions for everything, who knows? Maybe a newer model from HTC with ICS has a camera driver compatible with the G2/DZ. Until then I'll keep experimenting with the Betas till I find the best solution.

Dimitri Vladkov said:
Exactly, but even so the Pros of running ICS on the G2/DZ easily surpass the Cons. I for one can say my battery life at least doubled, and the system runs way more smoothly than it used to with Gingerbread. I guess now we can only hope that those great guys at the development teams can come up with solutions for everything, who knows? Maybe a newer model from HTC with ICS has a camera driver compatible with the G2/DZ. Until then I'll keep experimenting with the Betas till I find the best solution.
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well in regards to battery life and other performance benefits you can mainly thank the Rom creators for that. I've no doubt that if you tried to use a pretty much 'stock' configuration of ICS the battery life would be much worse and performance wouldn't seem quite a nice. Most of the benefits I enjoy in my current ICS rom is primarily credited to the rom's creator as he did quite a number on optimizing it specifically for the G2/Vision.

Possibly buying SGS III today

while it's only $100 at best buy. How's the development for this one (AT&T)? It looks like 9/10 of the ROMs have been abandoned and not updated for a month or more, is there some reason for this?
Anyway, if I get the SGSIII I will NEED
GPS that locks within 30 seconds, I get lost A LOT.
Working audio (no skipping or weird issues) from the 3.5mm connector
stable and doesn't crash or go really slow
Camera working enough to at least take clear pictures quickly
Do any ROMs do this currently?
Also a couple other questions. What can I expect for battery life, does it last a whole day with moderately heavy use? Any known issues that just come with the device and can't be/aren't currently fixed, like crapple's camera flare or my Infuse's terrible GPS (that got fixed with a relaunch and silent recall)?

Wtf. Almost every cm10 or aokp rom has been updated nightly. Most touchwiz roms don't get updated since they are close to being finished since there are no bugs on stock roms.
If you want it to work good run touchwiz roms. With battery I get 15 to 25 hours and about 4 hours on screen time which is pretty heavy use. As for bugs none I know of on stock. Everything works flawlessly.
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you can use aokp, Its great!

While the International version has a ton of roms, the I747 has a good amount of solid builds. You can have your choice of stock ics touchwiz (ariel), jelly bean touchwiz leaks (aristodemos, serenity) and aosp jellybean hybrids (aokp, liquid smooth, paranoid android). All work perfectly with GPS locking on within 15 seconds max. Never had a problem.
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100$ outright or under contract? BB canada is 0$ on our crappy 3 year plan

Yea.... a lot of the TouchWiz ICS ROM's haven't had updates lately because there isn't really a whole lot for them to do with the ROM, since it was pretty much complete to begin with. Just about all they really did on them is remove bloat, add custom themes, and tweak some stuff here and there. The TouchWiz JB ROM's still get updated fairly regularly, since there are still tweaks to be made here and there, and things to be updated as new leaks arise. But stuff like Cyanogenmod and the different ROM's built off of it are updated daily or every other day or two.

Been using CM10 nightly and now on M2 stable build. I use it as daily driver and don't have any issues. You won't be disappointed OP

I'll give my two cents as I've had this phone for bout 4 days now and I am coming of iOS.
I am a fairly techy user. I I run Linux servers for fun. I am but never got jntk android because I figured I'd play with the phone more than use it and it would end up being broken half the time.
Immediately after getting it I rooted it and flashed the rom and have already tried CM10, two TW ROMs and whatever else I could get my hand on.
Ultimately for stability purposes I'm still on stock. The phone is really good in terms of use, and but be prepared to know that ROMing it is still an experimental thing and if you want it to work flawlessly, and you'll most probably sitting on stock (which is not a bad thing)
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not to hijack the thread..
but is Ariel the ATT equal of CleanRom for verizon?
I'm on SlimBean but battery isn't stellar... so going to try my luck at a touchwiz rom.

I have a international gs3 9300 and an ATT gs3 and I run my Att gs3 as my main phone because tasks aokp jellybean ROM is hands down the best ROM built for either phone. The 9300 has many more roms than the i747. I bought the 9300 for the increased development and I learned the expensive way that quality beats quantity in the ROM department. Get the Att gs3 and root and flash tasks aokp and I guarantee you will be very happy.

I hope you got the phone today and I hope you enjoy it. Personally, I'm so satisfied with the stock rooted ROM that I've almost kicked my flashing addiction.
Almost.
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You can look under the original development page for some good stable roms like SlimBean, PA, and Aokp. All function well enough to be a DD.

Jonnyredcorn said:
I have a international gs3 9300 and an ATT gs3 and I run my Att gs3 as my main phone because tasks aokp jellybean ROM is hands down the best ROM built for either phone. The 9300 has many more roms than the i747. I bought the 9300 for the increased development and I learned the expensive way that quality beats quantity in the ROM department. Get the Att gs3 and root and flash tasks aokp and I guarantee you will be very happy.
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I agree with Jonny here... I too am running JB AOKP and everything works perfect. Task650 is always adding new commits and is constantly updating the ROM. Another point to consider... every phone is NOT created equal. The same ROM and kernel can run better/worse on one SGS3 to the next. You have to flash and try a ROM out to see how it runs for you because it won't be the same on another phone of the same model. Besides, what's stopping YOU from going through the development area and reading the threads like the rest of us have to do to learn what we need to? First suggestion.... don't be lazy and expect others to spoon feed you answers because you WILL receive backlash and grief. Do yourself a favor and SEARCH and READ anything and everything you feel is pertinent to your query. Spare yourself the frustration. This is just a word to the wise. No disrespect intended.
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t3chn0s1s said:
I agree with Jonny here... I too am running JB AOKP and everything works perfect. Task650 is always adding new commits and is constantly updating the ROM. Another point to consider... every phone is NOT created equal. The same ROM and kernel can run better/worse on one SGS3 to the next. You have to flash and try a ROM out to see how it runs for you because it won't be the same on another phone of the same model. Besides, what's stopping YOU from going through the development area and reading the threads like the rest of us have to do to learn what we need to? First suggestion.... don't be lazy and expect others to spoon feed you answers because you WILL receive backlash and grief. Do yourself a favor and SEARCH and READ anything and everything you feel is pertinent to your query. Spare yourself the frustration. This is just a word to the wise. No disrespect intended.
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This.
Task and ktoonzes are rocking this phone and Cyanogen himself is heading up CM development. Enough said.

thacounty said:
This.
Task and ktoonzes are rocking this phone and Cyanogen himself is heading up CM development. Enough said.
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Exactly.
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TheNetwork said:
while it's only $100 at best buy. How's the development for this one (AT&T)? It looks like 9/10 of the ROMs have been abandoned and not updated for a month or more, is there some reason for this?
Anyway, if I get the SGSIII I will NEED
GPS that locks within 30 seconds, I get lost A LOT.
Working audio (no skipping or weird issues) from the 3.5mm connector
stable and doesn't crash or go really slow
Camera working enough to at least take clear pictures quickly
Do any ROMs do this currently?
Also a couple other questions. What can I expect for battery life, does it last a whole day with moderately heavy use? Any known issues that just come with the device and can't be/aren't currently fixed, like crapple's camera flare or my Infuse's terrible GPS (that got fixed with a relaunch and silent recall)?
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The GPS and Navigation is AMAZING on any Android phone.
Their Music app could use some work, however i do use the app PlayerPro
TouchWiz is pretty stable but i find gets slower with time and i think thats due to the fact that its running ICS. I would recommend flashing a custom ROM such as CM10 for JB which makes the OS run ALOT smoother.
The stock camera is also very good with alot of features.
Hopes this helps.

Is there a need for custom rom?

I've been looking at the pictures of some home screens which look spectacular, I just want your opinion. I've just sold my iPhone 5 for Galaxy S3 i9305 LTE and I'm already amazed at being able to do so much. One thing that annoyed me with iPhone was the need to jailbreak if you wanted to do anything, so android is perfect and I think my phone set up with Nova Launcher Prime looks terrific.
Do I really need to go any further as I'd hate having to go back in the jailbreak business.

You and try it out no one is stopping you and I suggest that there is better performance for the phone so it is good
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Pie8er said:
I've been looking at the pictures of some home screens which look spectacular, I just want your opinion. I've just sold my iPhone 5 for Galaxy S3 i9305 LTE and I'm already amazed at being able to do so much. One thing that annoyed me with iPhone was the need to jailbreak if you wanted to do anything, so android is perfect and I think my phone set up with Nova Launcher Prime looks terrific.
Do I really need to go any further as I'd hate having to go back in the jailbreak business.
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You do what you want if you find you want xxx and it requires root then its your choice .
Point to note no root then no XDA Developers exists .
jje

I believe it is a matter of personal preference. This phone is one of the best, so no, there is no need for a custom Rom if it covers all of your needs as if. Just have in mind that some custom roms will give you a performance gain but will break some other stuff. I am not against custom, I've used them since I bought my Spica but this is the first one I do not see the need to go the custom Rom way
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Personally, I rooted my previous phones (and my Galaxy Tab) to increase their performance. However, he S3's performance - and come on, dude, you have the LTE version - is worlds apart to that of my previous phones. I still don't see the need to customize it.
However, this is coming from someone who doesn't really mind the TouchWIZ interface that Samsung made. If you really want a stock Android experience, then root, and then install a custom rom.

To be totally honest, don't think a custom rom is needed. That said, some mods DO make it better by a fair bit. For a phone that boasts 1Gb of ram it falls really short on multitasking. It just seems to close any app that stays in the background for a while even if it's memory wasn't needed. Rarely though, it will work properly for some reason. Haven't tried better memory managment mods (will do at some point) but this is the only really important one i'd like stock to do better.
There's also another grey area. Not really a custom rom but the latest samsung leak for the international version make it worlds apart from stock ICS, performance and functions wise. You'd need to get it from unofficial channels since it's a leak and hasn't been officially released yet AND in some countries may never be or just be really delayed for some reason. To install it, of course, you'd have to dable into "jailbreaking" (man i hate this term) business since it isn't official.
Also, in this latest leak, i'm also looking forward to that mod that adds all apps to multiview (haven't installed it yet). Everything else i'd use to want from a custom rom (mainly on my SGS), samsung has just about delivered: configurable toggle buttons, long press toggle to quickly access settings, smart stay/rotate, really smooth UI with touchwiz (even if it redraws often albeit less in this latest ROM), LOADS of ways to ease up your how you interact with your phone (gestures, motions, etc), loads of convenient menus everywhere, etc. Even if something is not to your liking there's a very high chance you can customize it or just get a free app from the market to make it to your liking, most of the time not requiring a rooted phone.
TL: DR: Nop, don't think so. I'd change minor stuff though

Simply necessary to set 240 DPI...320 is for my grandma.

NO...period. ..
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Interesting subject..
In reality no, there no need for a custom rom.. its simply an avenue to save time. Eg. If you find yourself installing a multitude of different mods/tweaks everytime you update your phone then a custom rom would suite you because they come installed by default.
If you like as close to the stock experience as possible then by all means no a custom rom is not needed.
In reality a custom rom is simply a collection of mods cooked together by the dev.. roms share very similar mods/tweaks with perhaps some cosmetic differences.
The phrase "jailbreak" originated because of the stock iOS experience being so restricted.. in the Android world the stock experience is the complete opposite, it allows you to do a large range of things although the only thing you may have to do to completely take advantage of your device is root it.
Perhaps this thread should of went into the Q/A area.. but nether the less good subject.

Pie8er said:
I've just sold my iPhone 5 for Galaxy S3 i9305 LTE
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We need more people like you in this world! Come join us in the Galaxy S3 general discussion thread!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889453
Also, in my opinion, there is no need to root the S3. Samsung have done an amazing job with it! It has great features and you can do so much without having to root. If you like the flavour of custom ROMs, though, you'll need to root. Just check them out and see what suits your everyday needs!
Enjoy!

kaynpayn said:
To be totally honest, don't think a custom rom is needed. That said, some mods DO make it better by a fair bit. For a phone that boasts 1Gb of ram it falls really short on multitasking.
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If you see the OP he actually bought the I9305 which is 2GB ram.. So its good with multitasking. And to the OP you are in the wrong Forum there is a I9305 q/a forum now if you read the forum headings. And about the custom rom, Just go about your way and use your phone normally now if you come to a roadblock or hiccup or want to try tweak it in anyway thats when you start looking into customizing or getting another rom and see if it runs smoother

[Q] Galaxy Note 2 Android 4.3 poll question.

I know there are people on here who have had a lot of Samsung Android smartphones. I also know that Samsung isn't the most reliable when releasing updates for the current phones when a new device is about to be released. That is extremely frustrating when Samsung says they will give their customer base a new version of the Android OS, but then drop the updates or say they will give a set number of devices the latest version, but only keep their word for 2 out 3 devices. So my question is... Who on here thinks that we will get Android 4.3 this year and who thinks we will get it nest year?

Samsung said already it would be updating the N2 by October.
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jibust said:
Samsung said already it would be updating the N2 by October.
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I hope you're right, but I seem to recall Samsung leaking several months ago that we'd have it early July (the SGH i317 was one of several devices noted on the list...not sure whether the other devices got theirs or not)
... still waiting and not overly optimistic

Do u guys have an official link to what Samsung said? Cause all I remember was that the s3 was gettting update in October.
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Honestly I don't think it matters when it's released. Because soon as there's a leak out there for, some new firmware. The DEVS around here are going to be all over it. And we all know that. So I think that everyone should just sit back and wait a month or so... We should know something by then.
Just my 2¢®
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judib said:
I hope you're right, but I seem to recall Samsung leaking several months ago that we'd have it early July (the SGH i317 was one of several devices noted on the list...not sure whether the other devices got theirs or not)
... still waiting and not overly optimistic
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that was for android 4.2.2 but then they decided to skip that for the n2 and go right to 4.3

The last update was supposed to be in February but was delayed until April. Not to optimistic about October.
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I for one, don't see why we need a 4.3 update. Run a 4.2 and 4.3 TW ROM side by side and you won't notice any difference. Samsung replaces the stock lock screen with it's own (bye bye lock screen widgets). And if you enable lock screen widgets, it's all messed-up, you a minuscule place to touch to switch to the next widget, so most of the time you end up going to clock settings.
Quick settings panel is really changed and at least for me TW notification drawer toggles are a lot more useful.
If you want 4.3 just run an AOSP ROM, you'll get the full experience.
Google has done a great job by starting to update core apps and apis through play store apps.
And IMHO 4.1.2 is a lot better than 4.2.2 which brought a lot of bugs memory leaks and lag.

jibust said:
If you want 4.3 just run an AOSP ROM, you'll get the full experience.
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You may get the full experience, but at what costs? Only the Manufacturers coders know how to tune the ROM to not be a battery guzzler. Only the Manufacturers coders know how to make a the ROM 90% stable. But some of us actually use the Samsung-only apps like S-Note. Sure Samsung has really messed up the overtime with the Android OS (I miss being able to turn off touchwiz). I've used Vanilla Rootbox, PAC-Man, CyanogenMod, AOKP and Paranoid Android and all of them leave something to be desired. The only thing PA has going for it is HALO and Per App DPI, outside of that it looks and feel just like every other aftermarket AOSP ROM.

thunderx2000 said:
You may get the full experience, but at what costs? Only the Manufacturers coders know how to tune the ROM to not be a battery guzzler. Only the Manufacturers coders know how to make a the ROM 90% stable. But some of us actually use the Samsung-only apps like S-Note. Sure Samsung has really messed up the overtime with the Android OS (I miss being able to turn off touchwiz). I've used Vanilla Rootbox, PAC-Man, CyanogenMod, AOKP and Paranoid Android and all of them leave something to be desired. The only thing PA has going for it is HALO and Per App DPI, outside of that it looks and feel just like every other aftermarket AOSP ROM.
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Either you have never used AOSP or you have not used a recent 4.3 build, they are pretty much rock solid, almost zero bugs(TW ROMs are full of bugs also), and battery life is the same as a TW ROM.
And I tend to use non-OEM apps just so I have the liberty to change ROMs whenever I want. Papyrus has worked great for me

[Q] 4.3 performance and battery life

I installed 4.3 last week which I now bitterly regret:
- memory footprint has almost doubled
- battery life has almost halved
- most applications no longer launch immediately, there is a black screen or a hang for several seconds before the apps actually launch
Is that to be expected or is there anything that can be done?
By the looks of it, Samsung may have expedited my move to another manufacturer.

LuckyLinUK said:
I installed 4.3 last week which I now bitterly regret:
- memory footprint has almost doubled
- battery life has almost halved
- most applications no longer launch immediately, there is a black screen or a hang for several seconds before the apps actually launch
Is that to be expected or is there anything that can be done?
By the looks of it, Samsung may have expedited my move to another manufacturer.
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Be helpful if you further identified what ROM and build number you use.
Also do u have any mods installed e.g. Note 3 app package?
Don't let available RAM discourage you, Android is meant to use what's available to offer an improved user experience.
Overall, for me the upgrade to 4.3 from 4.1 is a large improvement. Assuming you're on stock 4.3 try a custom ROM. Try them all. That will keep you busy for a while

tweeny80 said:
Be helpful if you further identified what ROM and build number you use.
Also do u have any mods installed e.g. Note 3 app package?
Don't let available RAM discourage you, Android is meant to use what's available to offer an improved user experience.
Overall, for me the upgrade to 4.3 from 4.1 is a large improvement. Assuming you're on stock 4.3 try a custom ROM. Try them all. That will keep you busy for a while
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I use stock, never rooted and updated via OTA. No mods and I did not install anything new after the update. The reason I am concerned about the memory footprint is that it correlates with the performance - it's never great, but anything beyond 1.5Gb and it almost becomes unusable.
While I appreciate the advice, I don't want to go down the route of a custom rom, it should work fine with what the manufacturer provides who does not provide a downgrade option.
I anticipated that Samsung would bungle this too, that's why I could kick myself for installing this.

LuckyLinUK said:
I use stock, never rooted and updated via OTA. No mods and I did not install anything new after the update. The reason I am concerned about the memory footprint is that it correlates with the performance - it's never great, but anything beyond 1.5Gb and it almost becomes unusable.
While I appreciate the advice, I don't want to go down the route of a custom rom, it should work fine with what the manufacturer provides who does not provide a downgrade option.
I anticipated that Samsung would bungle this too, that's why I could kick myself for installing this.
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Yup, I'm picking up what you're laying down...
Keep in mind Samsung released sub par 4.3 builds to many users. Their later releases were vastly improved. Check your build number. Be aware that by rooting you can install a stock Rom that is the latest revision.
I get your stance on stock but given the reality, aren't you best served to take matters into your own hands?
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tweeny80 said:
Yup, I'm picking up what you're laying down...
Keep in mind Samsung released sub par 4.3 builds to many users. Their later releases were vastly improved. Check your build number. Be aware that by rooting you can install a stock Rom that is the latest revision.
I get your stance on stock but given the reality, aren't you best served to take matters into your own hands?
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Cheers.
Well, OTA tells me that the latest update is installed so I presume that all their builds are bungled. I don't wish to void the warranty, or worse, brick the device with a custom ROM setup.
Installing and testing different roms until you find one that works is time consuming and I just want a working phone.
But you are right about taking matters into my own hands, I am going to the phone store tomorrow and check out what would suit me, Nexus perhaps or a Lumina.
As far as I am concerned, that was the first and last Samsung phone I have bought.

LuckyLinUK said:
Cheers.
Well, OTA tells me that the latest update is installed so I presume that all their builds are bungled. I don't wish to void the warranty, or worse, brick the device with a custom ROM setup.
Installing and testing different roms until you find one that works is time consuming and I just want a working phone.
But you are right about taking matters into my own hands, I am going to the phone store tomorrow and check out what would suit me, Nexus perhaps or a Lumina.
As far as I am concerned, that was the first and last Samsung phone I have bought.
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I would strongly suggest the HTC One or its soon to come successor. Wonderfully polished device and I would argue it's the most fluid Android phone around. It's certainly the most beautiful construction wise. Similarly I much prefer the sense ui over the ghastly samsung touchwiz ui.
Alternatively try a factory reset of your current, although this will be time consuming and, quite frankly, a pain in the ass.

Do a factory reset.
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